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Owens Press Conference Update

A couple more thoughts -1. I bet the Vegas early line on the Super Bowl just went to something like AFC -5. Who/what is going to emerge from the NFC now?2. The Madden Curse is now so powerful that it's beginning to affect guys the year before they seem destined to appear on the cover. Manning better watch out.
I got it in last night about 5 min after I saw him hit the deck at AFC -4 (It was -3 1/2 last week and I liked it then). If T.O. is all done for the year - I think you will see that number move to -6 real soon.
 
thats all you ###s can do is make fun of the eagles casue your team is in shambles and blows, who is yur QB cause i forget, the way i see it, last year we didnt have westbrook and and almost won, IMO westbrook is more important and we can still make it to the bowl, westbrook is extremly key to our success and I dont want to see him on the field at all in the next 2 weeks
Do you guys really think Westbrook, and even McNabb, will sit the next two games out? I do not. I think they will try to establish rhythm without TO to get momentum for the playoffs.
 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin

 
I don't get the "you have no chance now". This team went the last 3 years and added Owens, Kearse and a healthy Westbrook. Kearse and a healthy Westbrook should be more than enough to get them past a weaker NFC then they've seen the last 3 years.
Hey Slider, While I hope you're right and will be rooting for just such a series of events, you have to believe that what TO brought to that offense ran deep; and the psychological impact of his loss will be difficult, though not impossible, to overcome.
Actually, I'm more impressed with the development of the D. Westbrook is the difference on O as much as TO.
 
I really can't believe this.
Hey Wood, you've been an Eagles fan long enough.You should have been waiting for something like this to happen.
It's too true...But after walking out of the Linc last year, suffering the loss to Carolina, my buddies and I just kept saying that there was NOTHING the Eagles could do to make us believe again in 2004. But then they go out and get Kearse and TO, and roll through the regular season and the Kool Aid was happily imbibed.Very disheartening.
 
The earlier post about Karma sure seems true at times.Here's to hoping that TO is back on top of his game ASAP.

 
Considering how pitiful the NFC is, the Eagles should still just make it to the Super Bowl, even without Owens.I don't like seeing injuries happened to anyone, but karma just jumped up and bit Terrell Owens in the booty.

 
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Wood, in response to your comment in the locked thread, it's well worth the $100 just to laugh at you Eagles clowns again. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: BRING IT HOME
Fair enough...but I'll still put the c-note to good use.
 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin
Could not Agree more. I see the NFC as 5 team Race. Phil (No TO) , Atl , Minn (Healthy Moss, Winfield) GB and Car. Sorry still don't give Stl or Sea much of chance to win anything.
 
As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game. Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin
Colin makes sense. Remember the way Minny's O fell apart with the loss of Moss...and they have 3 runningbacks better than Westbrook.Bad times ahead in Philly.
 
Wood, in response to your comment in the locked thread, it's well worth the $100 just to laugh at you Eagles clowns again.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

BRING IT HOME
Fair enough...but I'll still put the c-note to good use.
if you're that excited about $100, then God bless ya..I'll spend another $100 tonight on Ebay buying some more Bucs Super Bowl merchandise. :thumbup:

Maybe I can find that elusive program from the 2003 NFC championship game. :yes:

 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin
:thumbup: :thumbup: :cheese: :excited:
 
You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.

 
thats all you ###s can do is make fun of the eagles casue your team is in shambles and blows, who is yur QB cause i forget, the way i see it, last year we didnt have westbrook and and almost won, IMO westbrook is more important and we can still make it to the bowl, westbrook is extremly key to our success and I dont want to see him on the field at all in the next 2 weeks
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:D Somehow that was a perfect response to his crying.
 
At least every coach in the league now has a cautionary tale to tell when asked why their star player was pulled after only playing one quarter. If McNabb plays the 4th quarter of either of the two meaningless remaining regular season games, Andy Reid should be fired on the spot.

 
Wood, in response to your comment in the locked thread, it's well worth the $100 just to laugh at you Eagles clowns again.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

BRING IT HOME
Fair enough...but I'll still put the c-note to good use.
if you're that excited about $100, then God bless ya..I'll spend another $100 tonight on Ebay buying some more Bucs Super Bowl merchandise. :thumbup:

Maybe I can find that elusive program from the 2003 NFC championship game. :yes:
I'd gladly write you a check for $1000 if you could guarantee me the Birds would be in the Bowl with a healthy T.O...
 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin
Colin makes sense. Remember the way Minny's O fell apart with the loss of Moss...and they have 3 runningbacks better than Westbrook.Bad times ahead in Philly.
I simply think that every playoff team has a player that is the difference between "really good" and "no one can beat us if we play our game." Owens, not McNabb, is that guy for the Eagles. They are still "really good", but as where when Owens was healthy they seemed a lock for the SUper Bowl if they played their game, now I see some questions and they could lose in Philly if they play the wrong team on the wrong day.Colin
 
TO will play by Super Bowl weekend at the earliest, just reported.

Eagles are done.

Even Jerome knows it.

 
Wood, in response to your comment in the locked thread, it's well worth the $100 just to laugh at you Eagles clowns again.

:rotflmao:  :rotflmao:

BRING IT HOME
Fair enough...but I'll still put the c-note to good use.
if you're that excited about $100, then God bless ya..I'll spend another $100 tonight on Ebay buying some more Bucs Super Bowl merchandise. :thumbup:

Maybe I can find that elusive program from the 2003 NFC championship game. :yes:
I'd gladly write you a check for $1000 if you could guarantee me the Birds would be in the Bowl with a healthy T.O...
I don't doubt it. Every fan should get to live through it.GDB spending at least that $1k on a bunch of SB crap.

 
Remember the way Minny's O fell apart with the loss of Moss...and they have 3 runningbacks better than Westbrook.
:rolleyes:
My thought exactly...one's a rookie, one can't stay healthy, and one who's just another failed drug test away from a year's suspension.I'll take Westbrook. :thumbup:
 
thats all you ###s can do is make fun of the eagles casue your team is in shambles and blows, who is yur QB cause i forget, the way i see it, last year we didnt have westbrook and and almost won, IMO westbrook is more important and we can still make it to the bowl, westbrook is extremly key to our success and I dont want to see him on the field at all in the next 2 weeks
Do you guys really think Westbrook, and even McNabb, will sit the next two games out? I do not. I think they will try to establish rhythm without TO to get momentum for the playoffs.
:goodposting: I don't envy Andy Reid the next two weeks.a) Play your key offensive starters ie McNabb, Westbrook. (Risk another huge injury)b) Don't play key offensive starters. (Risk offense is completely out of sync, considering no TO)I think Eagles have a major problem, you can not discount the added value TO brings. I am not saying they can't win a Super Bowl but this gives the offensive very little time to recover. If it is mid - season and you lose TO, thats one thing but 2 weeks before year end..........I don't know..........
 
2. The Madden Curse is now so powerful that it's beginning to affect guys the year before they seem destined to appear on the cover. Manning better watch out.
No, the Madden Curse only applies to offensive players. The Madden Gods got angry that a defensive player was on the cover and decided to strike the coverman of 2K5...TO.
 
Wood, in response to your comment in the locked thread, it's well worth the $100 just to laugh at you Eagles clowns again.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

BRING IT HOME
Fair enough...but I'll still put the c-note to good use.
if you're that excited about $100, then God bless ya..I'll spend another $100 tonight on Ebay buying some more Bucs Super Bowl merchandise. :thumbup:

Maybe I can find that elusive program from the 2003 NFC championship game. :yes:
I'd gladly write you a check for $1000 if you could guarantee me the Birds would be in the Bowl with a healthy T.O...
Would you write me a check?? I'll guarantee it.It might not happen, but I'll sure as hell guarantee it.

 
You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
:goodposting:
 
Now Eagles fans get to watch stick-boy Todd Pinkston short arm passes over the middle. Man that guy is weak. I really don't think they can win it all without a solid #1 WR like Owens on the field. But it could be worse. You could be a Lions fan.... :bag:

 
I'll remain optimistic and say the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, even without Owens. They have the same key players they had last year, but this time McNabb is healthy and Westbrook is in the lineup. Obviously, if they lose one of those two guys, put a fork in 'em. The defense is also as strong as last year, which people didn't expect to be the case with Vincent and Taylor leaving. But Sheppard and Brown have been very solid corners while both Dawkins and Lewis have played Pro Bowl level safety. And Kearse is of course a huge addition up front. Trotter starting at MLB has shored up the run defense, and now the overall D is looking better and better each week.If the Eagles don't panic over losing TO, they have the ability to beat anyone in the NFC. I don't have faith in them winning against the AFC champion without him, though. I think McNabb needs to use his legs to gain yards a little more early in games, if for no other reason than to put that fear in the defense and soften up the coverage. When he runs a few times, it changes the way the defense plays against the Eagles and opens things up for his receivers. Without Owens, that becomes even more important.I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid...I'm not giving up on this season now! :boxing:

 
thats all you ###s can do is make fun of the eagles casue your team is in shambles and blows, who is yur QB cause i forget, the way i see it, last year we didnt have westbrook and and almost won, IMO westbrook is more important and we can still make it to the bowl, westbrook is extremly key to our success and I dont want to see him on the field at all in the next 2 weeks
Do you guys really think Westbrook, and even McNabb, will sit the next two games out? I do not. I think they will try to establish rhythm without TO to get momentum for the playoffs.
:goodposting: I don't envy Andy Reid the next two weeks.a) Play your key offensive starters ie McNabb, Westbrook. (Risk another huge injury)b) Don't play key offensive starters. (Risk offense is completely out of sync, considering no TO)I think Eagles have a major problem, you can not discount the added value TO brings. I am not saying they can't win a Super Bowl but this gives the offensive very little time to recover. If it is mid - season and you lose TO, thats one thing but 2 weeks before year end..........I don't know..........
I agree it is a tough decision. Personally, if I were the Eagles I would want to come out and absolutely rout the Rams to show that you're still a top team even without TO. I think that if they pull their starters early and lose the game, then everyone will be like "Oh see, TO was the difference."
 
I'll remain optimistic and say the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, even without Owens. They have the same key players they had last year, but this time McNabb is healthy and Westbrook is in the lineup. Obviously, if they lose one of those two guys, put a fork in 'em. The defense is also as strong as last year, which people didn't expect to be the case with Vincent and Taylor leaving. But Sheppard and Brown have been very solid corners while both Dawkins and Lewis have played Pro Bowl level safety. And Kearse is of course a huge addition up front. Trotter starting at MLB has shored up the run defense, and now the overall D is looking better and better each week.If the Eagles don't panic over losing TO, they have the ability to beat anyone in the NFC. I don't have faith in them winning against the AFC champion without him, though. I think McNabb needs to use his legs to gain yards a little more early in games, if for no other reason than to put that fear in the defense and soften up the coverage. When he runs a few times, it changes the way the defense plays against the Eagles and opens things up for his receivers. Without Owens, that becomes even more important.I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid...I'm not giving up on this season now! :boxing:
So wait..they've added Kearse, but lost their starting CBs and RB...and they're better now? I don't think so. They may make the super bowl simpy because the NFC is weaker now, but I don't think they're much better than last year.
 
You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
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:rotflmao: at "so close" to success. Losing a 1st round home playoff game counts as close?
 
You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
:cry: That's football. The premier teams win despite injuries. If the Eagles were really only that good by hanging onto a ligament in TO's leg, then they weren't a championship team.Nobody remembers the also rans who had some lame excuse about an injury. They only remember the champions. If the Eagles are worthy of being a Super Bowl champ, they will find a way to get it done.
 
I'll remain optimistic and say the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, even without Owens. They have the same key players they had last year, but this time McNabb is healthy and Westbrook is in the lineup. Obviously, if they lose one of those two guys, put a fork in 'em. The defense is also as strong as last year, which people didn't expect to be the case with Vincent and Taylor leaving. But Sheppard and Brown have been very solid corners while both Dawkins and Lewis have played Pro Bowl level safety. And Kearse is of course a huge addition up front. Trotter starting at MLB has shored up the run defense, and now the overall D is looking better and better each week.If the Eagles don't panic over losing TO, they have the ability to beat anyone in the NFC. I don't have faith in them winning against the AFC champion without him, though. I think McNabb needs to use his legs to gain yards a little more early in games, if for no other reason than to put that fear in the defense and soften up the coverage. When he runs a few times, it changes the way the defense plays against the Eagles and opens things up for his receivers. Without Owens, that becomes even more important.I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid...I'm not giving up on this season now! :boxing:
Fork's in 'em now. They're done without TO. He was what made them a different team than in years' past. They're now the same, and probably worse since guys who were used to being role players are now supposed to step up and be playmakers...which they aren't.
 
IMO Panthers and Packers leaped ahead of Philly in the NFC with this injury. I really wanted to see a great SB of Philly vs NE, PIT, IND, or SD this year. :(

 
You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
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:rotflmao: at "so close" to success. Losing a 1st round home playoff game counts as close?
Ummmm, its actually 3 - 3rd round playoff loses.edited to add: nevermind, just re-read the post.
 
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You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
:goodposting:
:rotflmao: at "so close" to success. Losing a 1st round home playoff game counts as close?
:rotflmao:
 
I'll remain optimistic and say the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, even without Owens.  They have the same key players they had last year, but this time McNabb is healthy and Westbrook is in the lineup.  Obviously, if they lose one of those two guys, put a fork in 'em.  The defense is also as strong as last year, which people didn't expect to be the case with Vincent and Taylor leaving.  But Sheppard and Brown have been very solid corners while both Dawkins and Lewis have played Pro Bowl level safety.  And Kearse is of course a huge addition up front.  Trotter starting at MLB has shored up the run defense, and now the overall D is looking better and better each week.If the Eagles don't panic over losing TO, they have the ability to beat anyone in the NFC.  I don't have faith in them winning against the AFC champion without him, though.  I think McNabb needs to use his legs to gain yards a little more early in games, if for no other reason than to put that fear in the defense and soften up the coverage.  When he runs a few times, it changes the way the defense plays against the Eagles and opens things up for his receivers.  Without Owens, that becomes even more important.I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid...I'm not giving up on this season now!  :boxing:
So wait..they've added Kearse, but lost their starting CBs and RB...and they're better now? I don't think so. They may make the super bowl simpy because the NFC is weaker now, but I don't think they're much better than last year.
WRONGDefense is much improved - dline healthy. Trotter makes the team much strongerA healthy westbrook makes this team 10x better then last year.
 
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So wait..they've added Kearse, but lost their starting CBs and RB...and they're better now? I don't think so. They may make the super bowl simpy because the NFC is weaker now, but I don't think they're much better than last year.
Lost their starting RB? No, they ADDED their starting RB -- Westbrook was out for the playoffs last year, remember? And my point on the CB's is that Sheppard and Brown have been as good as Taylor and Vincent were last year, which wasn't expected. I don't think they've lost anything there at all, particulary considering how little Vincent and Taylor have produced for their teams this year. That was a good move to let them go.The NFC being weaker is a big help, of course, but the Eagles are at least as good a team now as they were heading into the playoffs last year, and I think better...even without TO.
 
I don't understand some of you guys. As an NFL fan, ideally, I don't want to see any stud athletes injured whether or not they are on my FF team or the NFL teams I root for. There is no player I personally dislike more than TO, but from an NFL fan perspective, I am devastated that he may be out for the year.If you really love this game, and you're a class act, you want even the stud players you hate to be on the field. You want to see the best competition on the field. You want to witness the breathtaking athleticism they offer. And if you truly hate a guy, you want to see him shut down by great defensive play, not shut down by injury.

 
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You guys just don't know how it feels. To watch a team you really, really care about come so close to great success, only to fall just short because the passing game just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of the team's excellence.Then, in the off-season, you acquire TO. Sure, he's kind of loud and obnoxious but he has a very special talent and it's enough to put your team over the top. But then, just as quickly as he's there - almost before you have time to appreciate what his presence means - he's gone. You're left devastated, you feel cheated. And to make matters worse, your team has let the rest of the already weak WR corps deteriorate because TO is so dominant and now you're worse off than if you'd never had him.Yes, you guys just don't know how it feels to be a Ravens fan. Well, except for the Eagles fans.That being said, I'm very sorry about this. I think TO is the single most compelling person in the NFL - I thought his Ray Lewis dance was hysterical and that's coming from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar.
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didn't the Ravens just win a Super Bowl this decade? what the #### is this all about.####I'm a Bucs fan, going through two straight losing seasons, and I still have a stupid smile on my face.
 
Owens wasn't just another good player on that team. He was the go-to guy, the player people could count on to make the play when it had to be made. He loosens things up for everyone else..IMO, of the playoff bound WRs, I'd say Owens is by far the most important to his team's chances to win a Ring. This is a big blow to Philly, and IMO, brings the rest of the NFC MUCH closer to them.COlin
:thumbup: :thumbup: :cheese: :excited:
I think you'll see alot more levens in the backfield with westbrook in the slot. Donovan will scramble alot more as well. It won't be as well polished as it has been, but I think Eagles will be OK in the NFC, I didn't think they wouldn't win the SB with TO in there, definitely don't think they will now. As a Cowboys fan, I like to see the Eagles fail, but I'd rather see them fail getting outplayed or outcoached not becuase of an injury to a major contributor. Hopefully this doesn't diminish his talents as he is one of the best in the game right now.Jim Johnson seems to have a way of getting that defense to pick up for the offense when needed (see this past weekend).
 
At least we wont have to hear any more about that stupid bet he made with Andy Reid about wearing tights...The TO owner in my league is heading into the semi-finals this week with Larry Fitzgerald as a starting WR due to this injury.

 
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