Owens Press Conference Update (1 Viewer)

[seahawk 17]

I am sorry for TO, and the Eagles fans. The season is over. They have the talent to still go to the SB, but this injury will mentally destroy them.Get off the Eagle ship because it's going to start sinking fast.

 

[Prime]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game. Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

 

[Fiddles.]

Any of you doom and gloomers see any Carolina games this year?

 

[Colin Dowling]

The worst part is, that even if they make the SB, I don't see them beating The PAts, Steelers, or COlts without TO. Seeing as how I'd bet the mortgage that one of those 3 teams is the AFC rep, I just don't see the Eagles winning the SB this year.

 

[JohnnyU]

What's the over/under for number of posts in this thread? I'll say 600.

 

[Jason Wood]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.

Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game.

Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

How were the Bills SB teams clearly superior to this year's Eagles exactly? And keep in mind the Bills made their run during a period where the NFC was on route to winning 13 straight Super Bowls, so let's not hear the "NFC is weak" argument vis-a-vis the Eagles.2004 (13-?) Eagles -- 26.4 PPG, 14.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.6

1990 (13-3) Bills -- 26.8 PPG, 16.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 15.8
1991 (13-3) Bills -- 28.6 PPG, 19.9 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.3
1992 (11-5) Bills -- 23.8 PPG, 17.7 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 16.0
1993 (12-4) Bills -- 20.6 PPG, 15.1 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 11.3

 

[Tong Po]

So wait..they've added Kearse, but lost their starting CBs and RB...and they're better now? I don't think so. They may make the super bowl simpy because the NFC is weaker now, but I don't think they're much better than last year.

i have news for those who don't watch the Eagles every week...

i'll take the 2 young corners they have this year over troy "the old man" vincent and bobby "arm tackle" taylor any day of the week. and their "starting" RB was always westbrook. duce was there to lighten the load on him. throw in jevon kearse and a rejuvenated j. trotter... and the Eagles D is MUCH better this year.

without Owens, the passing game is certainly in trouble. Donovan is simply gonna have to put the team on his shoulders and run with it more often. Us Eagles fans can only hope that Greg Lewis or the People's Champ step it up... because we can't endure watching Pinkston get banged all over the field like a high school player through another playoff run.

 

[Jason Wood]

So wait..they've added Kearse, but lost their starting CBs and RB...and they're better now? I don't think so. They may make the super bowl simpy because the NFC is weaker now, but I don't think they're much better than last year.

i have news for those who don't watch the Eagles every week...

i'll take the 2 young corners they have this year over troy "the old man" vincent and bobby "arm tackle" taylor any day of the week. and their "starting" RB was always westbrook. duce was there to lighten the load on him. throw in jevon kearse and a rejuvenated j. trotter... and the Eagles D is MUCH better this year.

without Owens, the passing game is certainly in trouble. Donovan is simply gonna have to put the team on his shoulders and run with it more often. Us Eagles fans can only hope that Greg Lewis or the People's Champ step it up... because we can't endure watching Pinkston get banged all over the field like a high school player through another playoff run.

The thought of relying on Mitchell, Pinkston, Lewis and McMullen is enough to make me lose my lunch :X

 

[jcool]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

 

[Sundays Rule]

Any of you doom and gloomers see any Carolina games this year?

Coheed and cambria fan?Be thankful the NFC is weak....they can still bowl over anyone in that conference without TO. Its the SB thats going to be a major problem.

 

[Sundays Rule]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

Good point. Karma

 

[Capella]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.

Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game.

Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

How were the Bills SB teams clearly superior to this year's Eagles exactly? And keep in mind the Bills made their run during a period where the NFC was on route to winning 13 straight Super Bowls, so let's not hear the "NFC is weak" argument vis-a-vis the Eagles.2004 (13-?) Eagles -- 26.4 PPG, 14.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.6

1990 (13-3) Bills -- 26.8 PPG, 16.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 15.8
1991 (13-3) Bills -- 28.6 PPG, 19.9 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.3
1992 (11-5) Bills -- 23.8 PPG, 17.7 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 16.0
1993 (12-4) Bills -- 20.6 PPG, 15.1 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 11.3

I would say the fact that they put up those dominant numbers four straight years would speak to the difference.

 

[Tong Po]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

This is just another example of the bad rap Eagles fans get all over the country. What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league). The truth is... no city is more passionate about their football team than Philadelphia. And if you polled the diehard fans who were so jacked up about the playoffs this year... you'd likely find that more than half would take a broken fibula to their OWN leg... if it meant getting TO back on the field for the playoffs.

 

[crispus attucks]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.

Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game.

Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

How were the Bills SB teams clearly superior to this year's Eagles exactly? And keep in mind the Bills made their run during a period where the NFC was on route to winning 13 straight Super Bowls, so let's not hear the "NFC is weak" argument vis-a-vis the Eagles.2004 (13-?) Eagles -- 26.4 PPG, 14.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.6

1990 (13-3) Bills -- 26.8 PPG, 16.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 15.8
1991 (13-3) Bills -- 28.6 PPG, 19.9 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.3
1992 (11-5) Bills -- 23.8 PPG, 17.7 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 16.0
1993 (12-4) Bills -- 20.6 PPG, 15.1 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 11.3

I would say the fact that they put up those dominant numbers four straight years would speak to the difference.

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets, to be sure, but triplets nonetheless - as they took on the AFC's best and won in championship games shows me somrthing. the Beagles are not there yet, so questions will remain about McSlabb's ability to get there.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.

Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game.

Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

How were the Bills SB teams clearly superior to this year's Eagles exactly? And keep in mind the Bills made their run during a period where the NFC was on route to winning 13 straight Super Bowls, so let's not hear the "NFC is weak" argument vis-a-vis the Eagles.2004 (13-?) Eagles -- 26.4 PPG, 14.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.6

1990 (13-3) Bills -- 26.8 PPG, 16.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 15.8
1991 (13-3) Bills -- 28.6 PPG, 19.9 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.3
1992 (11-5) Bills -- 23.8 PPG, 17.7 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 16.0
1993 (12-4) Bills -- 20.6 PPG, 15.1 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 11.3

I would say the fact that they put up those dominant numbers four straight years would speak to the difference.

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets, to be sure, but triplets nonetheless - as they took on the AFC's best and won in championship games shows me somrthing. the Beagles are not there yet, so questions will remain about McSlabb's ability to get there.

wasn't his name Andre`, not Alvin? We are talking Bills, not Chipmonks.

 

[Jason Wood]

As both a TO owner (of course, in the league I have TO, I'm probably knocked out anyway) and a fan of good football this sucks.

Seriously, show some class guys, either a person got hurt, or we lost one of the more exciting players in the game.

Sadly, the Eagles are going to make it 4 in a row now. Almost the Bills.

Well since I dislike Philly. The bills made it to Super Bowls big differnce.Hopefully TO will be back up and betting with coaches to wear tights next year.

Please don't ever compare these average Eagles teams to those of the 90's Bills teams. Don't fool yourselves, they didn't win the Super Bowls, but they dominated just about every single other game. They are or will go down as probably one of the most underrated/underappriciated teams ever.I think the Eagles still have a decent chance to go far. The big concern for me would be the Eagles poor play over the last stretch of games. They played the Redskins soft the first time around, almost lost the next time, and just barely beat my sorry Cowboys. all with a healthy TO.

How were the Bills SB teams clearly superior to this year's Eagles exactly? And keep in mind the Bills made their run during a period where the NFC was on route to winning 13 straight Super Bowls, so let's not hear the "NFC is weak" argument vis-a-vis the Eagles.2004 (13-?) Eagles -- 26.4 PPG, 14.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.6

1990 (13-3) Bills -- 26.8 PPG, 16.4 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 15.8
1991 (13-3) Bills -- 28.6 PPG, 19.9 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 13.3
1992 (11-5) Bills -- 23.8 PPG, 17.7 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 16.0
1993 (12-4) Bills -- 20.6 PPG, 15.1 PPG Allowed, Avg Margin of Victory = 11.3

I would say the fact that they put up those dominant numbers four straight years would speak to the difference.

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets, to be sure, but triplets nonetheless - as they took on the AFC's best and won in championship games shows me somrthing. the Beagles are not there yet, so questions will remain about McSlabb's ability to get there.

Hey Crispus,I'm not going to argue that that team (meaning the collective group that was a part of all four SB appearances) deserves special consideration among the all-time greats despite falling short of winning the Lombardi Trophy.

But the post in question suggested that the Bills dominated their opponents in a way the Eagles havent' save for the SB. That is just not true any way your slice things.

 

[Sputnikv8]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

 

[Newman]

What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league).

Not to stray too far off course, but do they still have a judge at the stadium to administer justice during Eagle home games? I remember they started doing this several years ago b/c of problems they were having. Can't think of too many other teams, if any, that have something like that in place.

 

[Michael Brown]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

This is just another example of the bad rap Eagles fans get all over the country. What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league). The truth is... no city is more passionate about their football team than Philadelphia. And if you polled the diehard fans who were so jacked up about the playoffs this year... you'd likely find that more than half would take a broken fibula to their OWN leg... if it meant getting TO back on the field for the playoffs.

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.On the topic in question, just because Owens broke his leg, that in no way justifies a "How does it feel NOW?" type of attitude. Owens wasn't standing and cheering when Irvin got hurt that day, so what did HE do to "deserve" the broken leg he suffered?

 

[Jason Wood]

What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league).

Not to stray too far off course, but do they still have a judge at the stadium to administer justice during Eagle home games? I remember they started doing this several years ago b/c of problems they were having. Can't think of too many other teams, if any, that have something like that in place.

The HAD a judge in the Vet, not so in the Linc.And for those crying karma re: TO; I just don't get that. Frankly, I was at the game when Irvin was hurt, and the majority of the fans weren't cheering. And a great many more who can't or don't go to the games are also good solid fans. I know that every time I see an injury (like the Shawn Springs injury vs. Washington, for example), I get sick to my stomach because these guys ultimately are out there to entertain us and you never want to see that messed up via a potentially devastating injury. And while I won't pretend to speak for all Eagles fans, I know the group of 30+ guys we tailgate with every week are all people who don't root for injury under any circumstances, to a man.

 

[Jason Wood]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

This is just another example of the bad rap Eagles fans get all over the country. What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league). The truth is... no city is more passionate about their football team than Philadelphia. And if you polled the diehard fans who were so jacked up about the playoffs this year... you'd likely find that more than half would take a broken fibula to their OWN leg... if it meant getting TO back on the field for the playoffs.

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.On the topic in question, just because Owens broke his leg, that in no way justifies a "How does it feel NOW?" type of attitude. Owens wasn't standing and cheering when Irvin got hurt that day, so what did HE do to "deserve" the broken leg he suffered?

Did anyone see TO when Shawn Springs got hurt? He was shaking his head and tearing up...TO may be a showboat but he's not a bad guy; I hardly see how the karma police figure into the equation.

 

[crispus attucks]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

 

[Capella]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING.  watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

how can you say that about a team that hasn't even won their conference?

 

[crispus attucks]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

This is just another example of the bad rap Eagles fans get all over the country. What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league). The truth is... no city is more passionate about their football team than Philadelphia. And if you polled the diehard fans who were so jacked up about the playoffs this year... you'd likely find that more than half would take a broken fibula to their OWN leg... if it meant getting TO back on the field for the playoffs.

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.On the topic in question, just because Owens broke his leg, that in no way justifies a "How does it feel NOW?" type of attitude. Owens wasn't standing and cheering when Irvin got hurt that day, so what did HE do to "deserve" the broken leg he suffered?

Did anyone see TO when Shawn Springs got hurt? He was shaking his head and tearing up...TO may be a showboat but he's not a bad guy; I hardly see how the karma police figure into the equation.

TO and SS work out together and are pals.Judge the depth of TO's character by the comments he made about Jeff Garcia.

 

[Michael Brown]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

This is just another example of the bad rap Eagles fans get all over the country. What happened that day in the stadium was not a representation of ALL Eagles fans... just a couple thousand drunk idiots showing off their intelligence (and you can find that many idiots at EVERY game in EVERY stadium around the league). The truth is... no city is more passionate about their football team than Philadelphia. And if you polled the diehard fans who were so jacked up about the playoffs this year... you'd likely find that more than half would take a broken fibula to their OWN leg... if it meant getting TO back on the field for the playoffs.

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.On the topic in question, just because Owens broke his leg, that in no way justifies a "How does it feel NOW?" type of attitude. Owens wasn't standing and cheering when Irvin got hurt that day, so what did HE do to "deserve" the broken leg he suffered?

Did anyone see TO when Shawn Springs got hurt? He was shaking his head and tearing up...TO may be a showboat but he's not a bad guy; I hardly see how the karma police figure into the equation.

Because some idiot inevitably will say, "Well you guys cheered when our guy got hurt, so now we'll cheer when your guy gets hurt" without stopping to realize that a guy broke his leg who had NOTHING to do with the Irvin situation.Now, if one of the drunken fools who cheered the Irvin injury broke THEIR leg, THEN I could see the karma connection.

 

[Jackal King]

I don't like to see anyone get injured, but being a huge Cowboys fan I reflect back when Michael Irvin was lying there suffering from a serious injury and the fans of the Eagles standing and applauding the injury to Irvin. Well how does it feel now? Watching Roy Williams yank T.O down the only way Roy knows how was classic in your face Philly fans. I know Irvin's career was over with his injury, but for one instance I was torn between that is too bad that he's hurt, but on the flip side I was feeling payback to all those who stood and applauded for an injury that was obviously very serious in nature that a cart had to come out and he had to be strapped in by every limb for support. Even though T.O walked off and Irvin had to be carted off it was still sweet to see all those Philly fans concerned. How does that feel now Philly fan? Thank you Roy Williams and now I hope the Eagles will suffer in the playoffs because of this.

God help us.

 

[P Boy]

The worst part is, that even if they make the SB, I don't see them beating The PAts, Steelers, or COlts without TO. Seeing as how I'd bet the mortgage that one of those 3 teams is the AFC rep, I just don't see the Eagles winning the SB this year.

You saw them as beating NE or PIT even with TO?Wow. Interesting.

 

[crispus attucks]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING.  watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

how can you say that about a team that hasn't even won their conference?

What's their won-loss record over the past 4 seasons? What was Buffalo's W-L from, what was it - 89-93? I bet it is very similar.

 

[Newman]

And for those crying karma re: TO; I just don't get that.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm assuming some of that is coming from Cowboy fans. You should certainly expect that out of the many that likely visit this site regularly, a few would have this sentiment. It's naive to think otherwise.

 

[Capella]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING.  watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

how can you say that about a team that hasn't even won their conference?

What's their won-loss record over the past 4 seasons? What was Buffalo's W-L from, what was it - 89-93? I bet it is very similar.

who cares, they never won the NFC, thus, they aren't the dominant team..

 

[deez nutz]

Sweet....Maybe they'll have to amputate it?

Member since 19Nov04...hmmmm, no balls to post under your normal board name??

Sorry..of courseFirst name: DeezLast name: Nutzlighten up dude...

So you're smiling and joking about one of the best players in the league going down and I need to lighten up?? ### wipe.

don't be bringing my name into it....

 

[Sideline Merc]

It's a shame to see a key player injured so close to the playoffs. It happens in football. I'm not a T.O. fan (Raven fan). But on the somewhat funny side of the situation. I assume T.O will have a cast. If so the Sharpie will not go to waste.

 

[caglassc]

Frankly, I was at the game when Irvin was hurt, and the majority of the fans weren't cheering.

That is just too funny. I was at that game (having lived right outside of Philly for years). The majority of the fans were cheering or "heckling" Irvin as he lay on the concrete floor of Veterans Stadium. There isn't any way that you can turn the Philly fans reaction that day into a positive! That was a classless move by the "majority" of fans that day and unlike TO Irvin could have been dead......

 

[-OZ-]

It's a shame to see a key player injured so close to the playoffs. It happens in football. I'm not a T.O. fan (Raven fan). But on the somewhat funny side of the situation. I assume T.O will have a cast. If so the Sharpie will not go to waste.

Hey SM. I wonder what TO's cast, signed, will go for on eBay?

 

[JAA]

Best wishes TO for a speedy recovery

 

[JAA]

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.

in a second

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.

in a second

I bet Ricky would too!

 

[JAA]

I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if anyone would take a broken leg to their own person over a player on their favorite team -- well that person just has issues, to say the least.

in a second

I bet Ricky would too!

I like you Bass

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I haven't read the whole thread, but why was Jason Woods's thread, celebrating T.O.'s minor injury, locked?  You know, the one with a ":HUGESIGHOFRELIEF:" and a dancing pickle.  TIA

I am assuming he regretted making that thread.

So Woods locked it?

In an effort to "consolidate" the TO discussion here.

Huh, I didn't know, as a mod, you could do whatever you wanted like that. Interesting.

 

[The Gipper]

I agree this hurts the Eagles a lot. I do NOT agree that this will make the Eagles team despondant and break their spirit. Fans, maybe. The team??? Hell no.Didn't happen the year they lost McNabb for games, did it? Won't happen this year.What we WILL see is TO on the sidelines cheering and rallying his team (similar to Burress this year btw). What we NEED to see is Mitchell, LJ Smith, and Greg Lewis stepping it up to the next level. Pinkston is done. Unless he makes some dramatic changes, I'd be surprised to see him in an Eagles uniform next year.This is where Mitchell, Greg Lewis and company need to either step it up, or hit the road. They have 2 "meaningless" regular season games to work on their new roles and gain confidence, and I expect them to do exactly that.

 

[Prime]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING.  watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

how can you say that about a team that hasn't even won their conference?

What's their won-loss record over the past 4 seasons? What was Buffalo's W-L from, what was it - 89-93? I bet it is very similar.

who cares, they never won the NFC, thus, they aren't the dominant team..

Exactly. I think it's funny how the Bills get no respect. These Eagles aren't even in the same class as any of those Bills teams. Kelly > McNabb (So far)Thurman > Westbrook/Staley/BuckhalterReed/Lofton/Beebe/Metzalars > Owens, scrub, scrub, scrubI'll take the Bills D with B.Smith, D. Talley, and C. Bennett over the Eagles anyday.You also have to remember, these teams that are playing today can't hold a candle to any of the dominate teams of the past. Those teams were homegrown drafted TEAMS. They would absolutely demolish any of these free agent infested organizations.I am not saying any of this to diminish what the Eagles have accomplished over the past several years. I just want to put things into perspective. The Bills teams of the 90's were a formidable force throughout the early 90's and shouldn't be forgotten.

 

[cobalt_27]

spinning numbers tells me NOTHING. watching Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas, Alvin Reed - a poor man's triplets

Geez! Its Thurman and Andre Reed. Sorry to be picky. Just brought back memories of me having to defend that team each and every SB loss. ...sigh....

Oops - I had a feeling I botched some names. To Jason's point, maybe we should just agree that the Eagles and Bills are very similar. Both fell short, albeit in different rounds of the playoff tournament, but both were the dominant team in their conference.

how can you say that about a team that hasn't even won their conference?

What's their won-loss record over the past 4 seasons? What was Buffalo's W-L from, what was it - 89-93? I bet it is very similar.

who cares, they never won the NFC, thus, they aren't the dominant team..

Exactly. I think it's funny how the Bills get no respect. These Eagles aren't even in the same class as any of those Bills teams. Kelly > McNabb (So far)Thurman > Westbrook/Staley/BuckhalterReed/Lofton/Beebe/Metzalars > Owens, scrub, scrub, scrubI'll take the Bills D with B.Smith, D. Talley, and C. Bennett over the Eagles anyday.You also have to remember, these teams that are playing today can't hold a candle to any of the dominate teams of the past. Those teams were homegrown drafted TEAMS. They would absolutely demolish any of these free agent infested organizations.I am not saying any of this to diminish what the Eagles have accomplished over the past several years. I just want to put things into perspective. The Bills teams of the 90's were a formidable force throughout the early 90's and shouldn't be forgotten.

Agreed. Only Philly homers and fantasy dudes with an attention span of a gnat would argue the Iggles over the great Bills team of the late-80s/early-90s.

 

[Lauryn]

Frankly, I was at the game when Irvin was hurt, and the majority of the fans weren't cheering.

That is just too funny. I was at that game (having lived right outside of Philly for years). The majority of the fans were cheering or "heckling" Irvin as he lay on the concrete floor of Veterans Stadium. There isn't any way that you can turn the Philly fans reaction that day into a positive! That was a classless move by the "majority" of fans that day and unlike TO Irvin could have been dead......

the majority of the fans were just fine until DEION started acting like a complete ##### on the sidelines, acting like he was praying and calling to the lord, making a spectacle of himself. THAT is when most of the fans got riled up and started hooting and hollering.on a side note, thank goodness irvin made a full recovery so he can come into our homes every sunday and monday and entertain us.

 

[tdoss]

Frankly, I was at the game when Irvin was hurt, and the majority of the fans weren't cheering.

That is just too funny. I was at that game (having lived right outside of Philly for years). The majority of the fans were cheering or "heckling" Irvin as he lay on the concrete floor of Veterans Stadium. There isn't any way that you can turn the Philly fans reaction that day into a positive! That was a classless move by the "majority" of fans that day and unlike TO Irvin could have been dead......

the majority of the fans were just fine until DEION started acting like a complete ##### on the sidelines, acting like he was praying and calling to the lord, making a spectacle of himself. THAT is when most of the fans got riled up and started hooting and hollering.on a side note, thank goodness irvin made a full recovery so he can come into our homes every sunday and monday and entertain us.

I've heard this defense before by Philly fans...it was Deion's fault for our classlessness that day...Another spin I've heard is..."We weren't cheering for Irvin's injury...we were cheering for the guys bringing our the stretcher...thank God for them...reaaaal American Heeeeroes..."

 

[silentmark]

OK...you can argue the Packers (maybe) being better...but the Panthers? THEY ARE 6-8 PEOPLE...talk about drinking Kool Aid. GB Panthers fans confusing mediocrity with being an NFC contender.

ATL, MIN and GB could come into Philly on a good day and beat the Eagles now, of that I'm certain. Eagles will (and should) be favored against any of them (assuming the Birds circle the wagons and win the divisional) but it will be a tremendously tough task.

I don't think the Panthers are better...you'd have to be nuts to think that.Packers, Falcons, maybe maybe the Vikings.

Seahags, Rams, Panthers, Saints all blow.

The whole NFC is rather weak imo ...This is a HUGE blow to the Iggles. Stack 7 or 8 guys in the box and who do you have to worry about ? Pinkston ? Mitchell ? Smith ? Lewis ? The biggest threat is Westbrook and McNabb's feet. Maybe they should start lining up Westbrook as a WR, maybe ...

I don't know about the rest of you "hopefuls", but I say put a fork in it ...

Oh and I still love it, sorry guys but I HATE all Philly teams, this really made my day ...

 

[silentmark]

Guys, cool it with the name calling, and WFFL...one more "joke" about a career threatening injury to TO or anyone else and you're banned, understood?

As to the news, I'm not going to lie, I'm devastated. Every year I convince myself that I'm not going to obsess about the Eagles and football in general as much as I've had in the past, and yet every season somehow the Eagles have managed to pull me right back into the mix and then some.

I really can't believe this.

No, I don't understand!!!! So now we have to make posts that conform to the "moderators" feelings??? That is !! So if someones post rubs Jason Wood wrong you will get banned. There have been plenty of "I hope Manning gets injured" posts flying around here, but when it hits home, biased mods start to catch feelings about it. I say screw that and I'm also very happy TO is out for the year. Actually, as an eagles hater from philly, not much makes me happier!!! So Joe B., I say handle this issue with swift authority as your "mods" are making threats based on people stating their opinions, afterall this is America. It is unfair to ban someone because you don't agree with his opinion, and it is even worse because you are an eagles homer who is pissed off and trying to throw your weight around!! I support you WFFL!!!!!!

Totaly agreed ColtFreak.Y'all should get tougher skin and stop being so weak minded. Alot of it is smack talk, just because it "hurts" your feelings, waaaaaaaaaaa Ricky , people shouldn't be banned or posts deleted.

It just goes to show that the Iggles fans are some of the most hypocritical fans out there today. My opinion will never changeon that, never.

Oh well, go home and sing your "Fly Iggles fly" tune, flap your arms and maybe that will make you feel better

 

[PewterFan]

Sweet....Maybe they'll have to amputate it?

Member since 19Nov04...hmmmm, no balls to post under your normal board name??

Sorry..of courseFirst name: DeezLast name: Nutzlighten up dude...

So you're smiling and joking about one of the best players in the league going down and I need to lighten up?? ### wipe.

I'm cracking up laughing. :rotflmao: Heck, I've been a member in these boards since the 'yellow' days. Heck, I signed up the first day that it became available, which is weird, because I still ended up with the high # of 812, but that's besides the point. I could be giving a speech and I'd still crack a joke about Owens. The guy is a #####, so good for him.

 

[shadyridr]

OK...you can argue the Packers (maybe) being better...but the Panthers? THEY ARE 6-8 PEOPLE...talk about drinking Kool Aid. GB Panthers fans confusing mediocrity with being an NFC contender.ATL, MIN and GB could come into Philly on a good day and beat the Eagles now, of that I'm certain. Eagles will (and should) be favored against any of them (assuming the Birds circle the wagons and win the divisional) but it will be a tremendously tough task.

I am not a Panthers fan but they are 5-1 in their last 6 games and came within a centimeter (Vick's knee) of being 6-0. IMO they have a better running game, better defense, and right now a better passing game than the Eagles.

 

[suchislife]

Sweet....Maybe they'll have to amputate it?

Member since 19Nov04...hmmmm, no balls to post under your normal board name??

Sorry..of courseFirst name: DeezLast name: Nutzlighten up dude...

So you're smiling and joking about one of the best players in the league going down and I need to lighten up?? ### wipe.

I'm cracking up laughing. :rotflmao: Heck, I've been a member in these boards since the 'yellow' days. Heck, I signed up the first day that it became available, which is weird, because I still ended up with the high # of 812, but that's besides the point. I could be giving a speech and I'd still crack a joke about Owens. The guy is a #####, so good for him.

So I guess that makes you an "old time" ### wipe.

 

[Tong Po]

It just goes to show that the Iggles fans are some of the most hypocritical fans out there today. My opinion will never changeon that, never.Oh well, go home and sing your "Fly Iggles fly" tune, flap your arms and maybe that will make you feel better

Thanks. As a "hypocritical" Iggles fan... I'll do just that... and watch my Iggles prove everybody wrong by stomping on into the Superbowl without Owens. In case "y'all" haven't noticed... over the last 5 weeks, Owens hasn't been exactly lighting up the scoreboard (except against Green Bay... but everybody lit up the scoreboard that day)... and the Eagles still WON all 5 games. There's a bit more contributing to their 13-1 record than just TO. The defense is one of the best in the league. They've got a great QB and RB. Let's just see how the other WRs respond on Monday night before you go and bury the Birds. The NFC sucks... and the Eagles will STILL get to the big dance.