P90X - Anyone try this? (2 Viewers)

[Ned]

DONE!!!!!

I can't believe I finished it. Thinking back to where I started and now, I am 100% embarrassed about how I let myself go for so long. It's amazing how you can get stuck in the every day stuff and neglect your body without totally realizing it. To think that I did half of day 1 as a trial run and nearly passed out :X . NEVER AGAIN

For those wondering if they should try this or not, maybe I can sway you to trying it. I feel like I'm writing a commercial for this thing, but I'm a 100% believer. This coming from someone who's never bought into the 'workout DVDs' in the past (I always thought they were stupid). I've always been one of those skinny fat guys and feel like for the first time that I'm breaking out of that mold. I still feel like I have a long ways to go and plan on using P90x as my core routine after Insanity is over this Summer. I may not use the actual DVDs all the time, but I'll be using the routines for sure.

I took a look at all of my worksheets and felt like summarizing:

Height 6'3

Day 1 weight = 229

Day 90 weight = 206

Day 1 BF% = 29% god

Day 90 BF% = 18%

Lost 29.3lbs of fat and gained 6.3lbs of mass.

Day 1 pushups max = 17

Day 90 pushups max = 42

Day 1 pullups max = 1 (not even sure I could consider it a real 1)

Day 90 pullups max = 7

Day 1 ab ripper total = 101

Day 90 ab ripper total = 356

 

[Disco Stu]

Nice job Ned!

BTW, I have no idea how you guys keep track of the total number during ab ripper. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm not much above 50% right now. Up from maybe 35% the first day.

 

[Random]

Awesome job Ned!! And I completely agree. I'm definitely a believer.

One personal milestone I'm approaching is 100 pullups on the legs/back workout. Got 93 last night (first workout 2/1/10 I did 32).

This program is simply amazing if you you really give it 100%, which is a big commitment.

 

[Ned]

Nice job Ned! BTW, I have no idea how you guys keep track of the total number during ab ripper. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm not much above 50% right now. Up from maybe 35% the first day.

Thanks!!I have a pen/pad sitting next to my yoga mat and jot it down after each exercise. Towards the end its barely legible most days

 

[Ned]

Awesome job Ned!! And I completely agree. I'm definitely a believer. One personal milestone I'm approaching is 100 pullups on the legs/back workout. Got 93 last night (first workout 2/1/10 I did 32).This program is simply amazing if you you really give it 100%, which is a big commitment.

Wow 93 is awesome work! 100 is a killer goal.I agree on the commitment. There were quite a few days I really had to guilt myself into sticking with it and even some days where I had to smack myself around some to finish out. There were a few days in the beginning where I just felt like complete garbage and had nothing in me. I think one of the biggest hurdles was figuring out the proper nutrition so I didn't bonk. It amazes me to hear people doing P90x/Insanity on <2000 calories. I stayed pretty close to 3,000 most of the time and needed every calorie I could get.GL Stu and everyone else the rest of the way. I'll stick around to cheer y'all on!

 

[trout]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old.

I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done.

My stats so far:

Begining Weight 167-170

Ending Weight 162-167

So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays.

Started at 12% body fat

Ended at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.

6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.

By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob.

My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it.

My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.

For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts.

Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.

With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

 

[trout]

Nice job Ned!

BTW, I have no idea how you guys keep track of the total number during ab ripper. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm not much above 50% right now. Up from maybe 35% the first day.

What do you mean? Just have a pad and paper nearby. in & outs- 25

Bicycles- 50

crunchy frogs - 25

fifer scissors- 25

hip rock raises- 25

pulse ups -25

V-up, roll-up -25

Oblique V-ups- 50

Leg climbs - 24

mason twists - 40

All adds up to Ab Ripper 339! I hate it, but I love it.

 

[Ned]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old. I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done. My stats so far:Begining Weight 167-170Ending Weight 162-167So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays. Started at 12% body fatEnded at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob. My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it. My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts. Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

Congrats man! That is awesome stuff. Man am I jealous of your pull up #s!!! 154?!?! I remember you bringing up biceps before and am surprised that you didn't see much improvement there. That was one of the biggest gains for me. My first week I was curling 20s and now find myself able to curl 35s.I completely agree with you about legs. That one killed me for a while, but towards the end I really started to breeze right through it. Has anyone ever tried timing themselves for a max set of wall squats? I found 90 seconds getting pretty easy, so I've been curious to see how long I could go.Funny you've mentioned going for another round of P90x. I've been so thrilled with it I feel like I'm doing myself an injustice by putting it away and going to Insanity. I've had a few thoughts on going for P90x doubles, but, I think I need to break this up and get away from Tony and gang for a while (Drea - call me! ). Another attraction to doing Insanity now for me is the shorter workouts now that Summer is approaching. My wife has been super supportive of me through this, so I think I better tread lightly...

 

[trout]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old. I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done. My stats so far:Begining Weight 167-170Ending Weight 162-167So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays. Started at 12% body fatEnded at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob. My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it. My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts. Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

Congrats man! That is awesome stuff. Man am I jealous of your pull up #s!!! 154?!?! I remember you bringing up biceps before and am surprised that you didn't see much improvement there. That was one of the biggest gains for me. My first week I was curling 20s and now find myself able to curl 35s.I completely agree with you about legs. That one killed me for a while, but towards the end I really started to breeze right through it. Has anyone ever tried timing themselves for a max set of wall squats? I found 90 seconds getting pretty easy, so I've been curious to see how long I could go.Funny you've mentioned going for another round of P90x. I've been so thrilled with it I feel like I'm doing myself an injustice by putting it away and going to Insanity. I've had a few thoughts on going for P90x doubles, but, I think I need to break this up and get away from Tony and gang for a while (Drea - call me! ). Another attraction to doing Insanity now for me is the shorter workouts now that Summer is approaching. My wife has been super supportive of me through this, so I think I better tread lightly...

could probably add some weight to the leg routine for some of those moves. Why not add some light dumbells to the dead lift squats, 3 way lunges, groucho?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Kudos Ned!

 

[Disco Stu]

Nice job Ned!

BTW, I have no idea how you guys keep track of the total number during ab ripper. If I had to guess, I'd say I'm not much above 50% right now. Up from maybe 35% the first day.

What do you mean? Just have a pad and paper nearby. in & outs- 25

Bicycles- 50

crunchy frogs - 25

fifer scissors- 25

hip rock raises- 25

pulse ups -25

V-up, roll-up -25

Oblique V-ups- 50

Leg climbs - 24

mason twists - 40

All adds up to Ab Ripper 339! I hate it, but I love it.

I can barely keep track of how many I've done, and they move so quickly to the next one that I'm not sure I could get it recorded in time. Suppose I should try though.So far I'm with you on the biceps thing... though I'm much much earlier in the process. The day after the shoulders/arms workout this week I noticed my triceps were much more sore than my biceps. And I'm seeing a more noticeable visual improvement there as well.

I'm not sure if my form was off on the biceps, or if I just need to increase the weight. I'll try adjusting something when I do it again Sunday.

 

[trout]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old. I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done. My stats so far:Begining Weight 167-170Ending Weight 162-167So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays. Started at 12% body fatEnded at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob. My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it. My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts. Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

bump/editI could've mentioned supplements in my recap of P90X. I started taking Protein and Creatine the day I started P90X. 5:15am- half scoop of creatine, half a banana. just to get something in my empty belly.6:15 am recovery drink right after workout- full scoop of creatine, half scoop protein, other half of banana. Tried to get the 4:1 carb to protein ratio here.Somedays I'd eat a protein bar for a snack. Found one similar to the beachbody brand.On days when I needed another protein serving or two, I'd take another scoop or two of powder. Particularly in Phase 1...hard to get all those protein servings each day.That's pretty much it as far as supplements go. I just finished my tub of creatine today, so I'll be cycling off that. I won't be taking any creatine during my next round of P90X...just to see how it goes, but I will continue protein.

 

[azgroover]

Anyone else develop lots of clicking and popping in their joints after beginning this program? Since I've started this, my body sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies when I wake up. I just started phase 3 and I've lately noticed more clicks and pops while I'm actually doing the work out. Nothing hurts or aches, but I don't know if I need to be concerned.

 

[Ned]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old. I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done. My stats so far:Begining Weight 167-170Ending Weight 162-167So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays. Started at 12% body fatEnded at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob. My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it. My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts. Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

bump/editI could've mentioned supplements in my recap of P90X. I started taking Protein and Creatine the day I started P90X. 5:15am- half scoop of creatine, half a banana. just to get something in my empty belly.6:15 am recovery drink right after workout- full scoop of creatine, half scoop protein, other half of banana. Tried to get the 4:1 carb to protein ratio here.Somedays I'd eat a protein bar for a snack. Found one similar to the beachbody brand.On days when I needed another protein serving or two, I'd take another scoop or two of powder. Particularly in Phase 1...hard to get all those protein servings each day.That's pretty much it as far as supplements go. I just finished my tub of creatine today, so I'll be cycling off that. I won't be taking any creatine during my next round of P90X...just to see how it goes, but I will continue protein.

I'm a noob when it comes to creatine. Did you notice a big difference using it?Congrats on finishing!

 

[Ned]

Anyone else develop lots of clicking and popping in their joints after beginning this program? Since I've started this, my body sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies when I wake up. I just started phase 3 and I've lately noticed more clicks and pops while I'm actually doing the work out. Nothing hurts or aches, but I don't know if I need to be concerned.

I didn't have any clicking except a few random ones. I probably wouldn't sweat it unless it started to hurt or swell up.

 

[Random]

I have some clicking, but only while doing pullups. Shoulder/neck area, not really concerned.

 

[trout]

Nice job Ned! Very encouraging remarks and spot on. I was fairly fit before, but was stuck in the same old routine and not making any gains. Just sort of tredging thru the same old same old. I just finished week 12 today, so all my resistance stuff is done. My stats so far:Begining Weight 167-170Ending Weight 162-167So not much on the weight loss, but that's fine by me. I followed the nutrition guide with about 90% accuracy during the week and about 60% accuracy on the weekends. Drank alcohol as usual on Fri, Sat, and a bit on Sundays. Started at 12% body fatEnded at less than that...won't measure until after recovery week next week.6 pack is poking thru like it never has before. All areas have far more definition than before. I don't think I got any bigger, but a lot stronger and more defined.By far my biggest gain is pullups. In the Chest/Back routine I increase total PU from 39 week 1 to 75 at the end. In the Legs/Back workout they increased from 70 week 1 to 154 today (120% increase)!. In the back/bi routine they increased from 43 to 79. I'm doing sets of 20-25 now instead of 8-10 when I started. Still can only do 5 corncob. My lowest gain is legs. Probably because a lot of those excersices don't require weights. I did 20 sneaky lunges from day 1. Did 20 dead lift squats right away. Same with groucho walk, wall squats, chair salutations, 3 way lunges, etc. The workout has gotten easier, but the numbers aren't showing it. My biggest disappointment is biceps. Maybe because I had already been working on them prior to p90x they just could't improve as quickly? I worked them with as much intesity as my other parts, but the numbers didn't move as much as other body parts. Multiply weight and reps for each excercise and add them together....my biceps improved 14% in Shoulders/arms workout and 21% in the Back/bi workout.For comparison, my chest numbers increased 25% and 31% for the 2 chest workouts (Can only do 3 of the 1arm pushups). My Shoulders increased 35% and 44% for the 2 shoulder workouts. Triceps increased 43% and 39% for the 2 tricep workouts. Ab Ripper started out at 335 and is now up to 377. I do 16 each side for the leg climbers and 70 mason twists.With these gains after doing P90X, I can only imagine what I could do if I started this again a week after I'm done. I was going to do Insanity, but now my bro-in-law doesn't want to swap programs anymore. So I might as well do another round of P90X.

bump/editI could've mentioned supplements in my recap of P90X. I started taking Protein and Creatine the day I started P90X. 5:15am- half scoop of creatine, half a banana. just to get something in my empty belly.6:15 am recovery drink right after workout- full scoop of creatine, half scoop protein, other half of banana. Tried to get the 4:1 carb to protein ratio here.Somedays I'd eat a protein bar for a snack. Found one similar to the beachbody brand.On days when I needed another protein serving or two, I'd take another scoop or two of powder. Particularly in Phase 1...hard to get all those protein servings each day.That's pretty much it as far as supplements go. I just finished my tub of creatine today, so I'll be cycling off that. I won't be taking any creatine during my next round of P90X...just to see how it goes, but I will continue protein.

I'm a noob when it comes to creatine. Did you notice a big difference using it?Congrats on finishing!

Not sure how much of an affect it had....I have no baseline to compare it to. I did P90X one time and I was taking creatine the entire time. I'm not sure how much my strength gains were a result of P90X or creatine.

 

[Disco Stu]

I'm taking creatine also. This is my recovery drink. Usually drink a glass right before and right after the workout.

Speaking of recovery... I'm in the middle of the first recovery week right now. Yoga seems a little easier this week, since my muscles aren't so tight. I'm still comically inflexible but improving.

 

[trout]

I'm taking creatine also. This is my recovery drink. Usually drink a glass right before and right after the workout.

Speaking of recovery... I'm in the middle of the first recovery week right now. Yoga seems a little easier this week, since my muscles aren't so tight. I'm still comically inflexible but improving.

That's the brand I used for the 90 days. Don't know if it's any good or not as I don't have anything to compare it to. Having just finished the first round of P90X last week, I'm taking this entire week off....not working out at all. Then, I'll be starting my second round of P90X next week WITHOUT the creatine. In a couple weeks, I should know if the creatine helped or not.

 

[Iron_Far]

On this.

I've only gone through Chest & Back, but can definitely feel the results (muscle tightening, increased stamina, etc) more than two years of five hours per week in the gym have gotten me.

A few questions for those that have completed this:

1. How much worse off am I/will I be since I don't and won't be taking any supplements or 'nutrition' drinks, as recommended ?

2. How useful is the workbook stuff? I plan on simply going through the DVDs in order....

TIA

 

[Ned]

On this. I've only gone through Chest & Back, but can definitely feel the results (muscle tightening, increased stamina, etc) more than two years of five hours per week in the gym have gotten me.A few questions for those that have completed this:1. How much worse off am I/will I be since I don't and won't be taking any supplements or 'nutrition' drinks, as recommended ?2. How useful is the workbook stuff? I plan on simply going through the DVDs in order....TIA

1 - I was skeptical about the recovery drink too, but there were a hand full of times where I forgot to drink it. The next day I could definitely tell the difference. I didn't use theirs though. I drank a serving of Muscle Milk (in water) after each workout. I'm a firm believer.2 - The workbook stuff is a good motivator. It's cool to see the gains on paper each week. It served as the 'carrot' for me.GL!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Anyone else develop lots of clicking and popping in their joints after beginning this program? Since I've started this, my body sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies when I wake up. I just started phase 3 and I've lately noticed more clicks and pops while I'm actually doing the work out. Nothing hurts or aches, but I don't know if I need to be concerned.

Try picking up some Glucosamine/Chondroitin supplements.

 

[Random]

On this. I've only gone through Chest & Back, but can definitely feel the results (muscle tightening, increased stamina, etc) more than two years of five hours per week in the gym have gotten me.A few questions for those that have completed this:1. How much worse off am I/will I be since I don't and won't be taking any supplements or 'nutrition' drinks, as recommended ?2. How useful is the workbook stuff? I plan on simply going through the DVDs in order....TIA

1 - I was skeptical about the recovery drink too, but there were a hand full of times where I forgot to drink it. The next day I could definitely tell the difference. I didn't use theirs though. I drank a serving of Muscle Milk (in water) after each workout. I'm a firm believer.2 - The workbook stuff is a good motivator. It's cool to see the gains on paper each week. It served as the 'carrot' for me.GL!

Ned - you've asked a few times what the secret was for a good workout. I'm 99% certain its food. After having a few weeks of workouts where I'm dead by the end, I decided to ramp up my intake yesterday. Normal breakfast (bowl of Fiber One), fruit and almonds snack, large chicken salad lunch, clif bar snack (about an hour or two before the workout), coconut water during workout (this stuff is awesome - packed full of electrolytes). Absolutely crushed my "modified" chest, tri, shoulders workout. I think I did either more weight or more reps on nearly every exercise. And I felt great afterwords.How's Insanity going? How's it compare to P90X?

 

[Disco Stu]

I want to do all kinds of dirty things to Shauna's freakishly flexible little body.

 

[Ned]

On this. I've only gone through Chest & Back, but can definitely feel the results (muscle tightening, increased stamina, etc) more than two years of five hours per week in the gym have gotten me.A few questions for those that have completed this:1. How much worse off am I/will I be since I don't and won't be taking any supplements or 'nutrition' drinks, as recommended ?2. How useful is the workbook stuff? I plan on simply going through the DVDs in order....TIA

1 - I was skeptical about the recovery drink too, but there were a hand full of times where I forgot to drink it. The next day I could definitely tell the difference. I didn't use theirs though. I drank a serving of Muscle Milk (in water) after each workout. I'm a firm believer.2 - The workbook stuff is a good motivator. It's cool to see the gains on paper each week. It served as the 'carrot' for me.GL!

Ned - you've asked a few times what the secret was for a good workout. I'm 99% certain its food. After having a few weeks of workouts where I'm dead by the end, I decided to ramp up my intake yesterday. Normal breakfast (bowl of Fiber One), fruit and almonds snack, large chicken salad lunch, clif bar snack (about an hour or two before the workout), coconut water during workout (this stuff is awesome - packed full of electrolytes). Absolutely crushed my "modified" chest, tri, shoulders workout. I think I did either more weight or more reps on nearly every exercise. And I felt great afterwords.How's Insanity going? How's it compare to P90X?

Insanity stomps all over Plyo in terms of a cardio workout. It was a bit of a wakeup call doing the Fit Test. I admit I went in a little over confident after finishing P90x and got smacked around. The pace that Sean T keeps during the workout is much faster than anything Tony does. The water breaks in P90x are always shown as 30sec, but when Tony keeps rambling on afterwards, its a lot longer than that. Sean T is obviously watching the clock to the second and is right there yelling to start the next set as soon as the water break clock hits zero. I do miss pullups and added a set of wide grip, reverse grip, and standard at the end of one of the workouts. I paid for that at the end last week I'm learning more and more about the valuable lessons of properly fueling my body. I actually just posted this the other day in the Insanity thread...

I learned a valuable lesson today on my off day that I figured I'd pass along... Went riding with my brother and friend for a few hours. In my excitement I totally forgot to eat lunch before heading out. Combine the heat and lack of food, I bonked really hard. I felt OK when I was riding, but didn't have my usual energy. Every time we stopped for a break, I felt so hungry I wanted to puke. Our trails are right around the corner from our house, so I flew back home and downed a banana and some muscle milk. Went back out and felt like a completely different rider. It seems pretty obvious, but man is fuel really important. I will never skimp on food again.

 

[Ned]

I want to do all kinds of dirty things to Shauna's freakishly flexible little body.

Love me some Shauna!ETA - you should see the eye candy in Insanity. :drool:

 

[Random]

Ned - you've asked a few times what the secret was for a good workout. I'm 99% certain its food. After having a few weeks of workouts where I'm dead by the end, I decided to ramp up my intake yesterday. Normal breakfast (bowl of Fiber One), fruit and almonds snack, large chicken salad lunch, clif bar snack (about an hour or two before the workout), coconut water during workout (this stuff is awesome - packed full of electrolytes). Absolutely crushed my "modified" chest, tri, shoulders workout. I think I did either more weight or more reps on nearly every exercise. And I felt great afterwords.How's Insanity going? How's it compare to P90X?

Insanity stomps all over Plyo in terms of a cardio workout. It was a bit of a wakeup call doing the Fit Test. I admit I went in a little over confident after finishing P90x and got smacked around. The pace that Sean T keeps during the workout is much faster than anything Tony does. The water breaks in P90x are always shown as 30sec, but when Tony keeps rambling on afterwards, its a lot longer than that. Sean T is obviously watching the clock to the second and is right there yelling to start the next set as soon as the water break clock hits zero. I do miss pullups and added a set of wide grip, reverse grip, and standard at the end of one of the workouts. I paid for that at the end last week :(I'm learning more and more about the valuable lessons of properly fueling my body. I actually just posted this the other day in the Insanity thread...

I learned a valuable lesson today on my off day that I figured I'd pass along... Went riding with my brother and friend for a few hours. In my excitement I totally forgot to eat lunch before heading out. Combine the heat and lack of food, I bonked really hard. I felt OK when I was riding, but didn't have my usual energy. Every time we stopped for a break, I felt so hungry I wanted to puke. Our trails are right around the corner from our house, so I flew back home and downed a banana and some muscle milk. Went back out and felt like a completely different rider. It seems pretty obvious, but man is fuel really important. I will never skimp on food again.

How about strength wise? I kinda want to do insanity, but dont want to give up the strength days of P90X. Maybe work in two days of insanity/wk (substituting plyo and legs/back days) with insanity? Would that be reasonable?

 

[Ned]

Ned - you've asked a few times what the secret was for a good workout. I'm 99% certain its food. After having a few weeks of workouts where I'm dead by the end, I decided to ramp up my intake yesterday. Normal breakfast (bowl of Fiber One), fruit and almonds snack, large chicken salad lunch, clif bar snack (about an hour or two before the workout), coconut water during workout (this stuff is awesome - packed full of electrolytes). Absolutely crushed my "modified" chest, tri, shoulders workout. I think I did either more weight or more reps on nearly every exercise. And I felt great afterwords.How's Insanity going? How's it compare to P90X?

Insanity stomps all over Plyo in terms of a cardio workout. It was a bit of a wakeup call doing the Fit Test. I admit I went in a little over confident after finishing P90x and got smacked around. The pace that Sean T keeps during the workout is much faster than anything Tony does. The water breaks in P90x are always shown as 30sec, but when Tony keeps rambling on afterwards, its a lot longer than that. Sean T is obviously watching the clock to the second and is right there yelling to start the next set as soon as the water break clock hits zero. I do miss pullups and added a set of wide grip, reverse grip, and standard at the end of one of the workouts. I paid for that at the end last week :XI'm learning more and more about the valuable lessons of properly fueling my body. I actually just posted this the other day in the Insanity thread...

I learned a valuable lesson today on my off day that I figured I'd pass along... Went riding with my brother and friend for a few hours. In my excitement I totally forgot to eat lunch before heading out. Combine the heat and lack of food, I bonked really hard. I felt OK when I was riding, but didn't have my usual energy. Every time we stopped for a break, I felt so hungry I wanted to puke. Our trails are right around the corner from our house, so I flew back home and downed a banana and some muscle milk. Went back out and felt like a completely different rider. It seems pretty obvious, but man is fuel really important. I will never skimp on food again.

How about strength wise? I kinda want to do insanity, but dont want to give up the strength days of P90X. Maybe work in two days of insanity/wk (substituting plyo and legs/back days) with insanity? Would that be reasonable?

Yeah there really isn't anything like the strength work of P90x. Granted I haven't done all of the videos yet, but the 'Cardio Power & Resistance' video is still very cardio centered. You never pick up a weight, which is a nice change of pace.Since I haven't done all of the Insanity videos yet, I can't really comment on which ones to pick to supplement in with P90x. But, I have planned all along to do something similar with blending the 2 together. The hardest so far was Plyometric Cardio Circuit, but the guys in the Insanity thread said that's going to feel like a warmup when I hit the workouts in Month 2.

 

[Iron_Far]

On this. I've only gone through Chest & Back, but can definitely feel the results (muscle tightening, increased stamina, etc) more than two years of five hours per week in the gym have gotten me.A few questions for those that have completed this:1. How much worse off am I/will I be since I don't and won't be taking any supplements or 'nutrition' drinks, as recommended ?2. How useful is the workbook stuff? I plan on simply going through the DVDs in order....TIA

1 - I was skeptical about the recovery drink too, but there were a hand full of times where I forgot to drink it. The next day I could definitely tell the difference. I didn't use theirs though. I drank a serving of Muscle Milk (in water) after each workout. I'm a firm believer.2 - The workbook stuff is a good motivator. It's cool to see the gains on paper each week. It served as the 'carrot' for me.GL!

Just started Plyometrics..... and I haven't been able to walk straight for two days. :X

 

[Snotbubbles]

Yeah there really isn't anything like the strength work of P90x. Granted I haven't done all of the videos yet, but the 'Cardio Power & Resistance' video is still very cardio centered. You never pick up a weight, which is a nice change of pace.Since I haven't done all of the Insanity videos yet, I can't really comment on which ones to pick to supplement in with P90x. But, I have planned all along to do something similar with blending the 2 together. The hardest so far was Plyometric Cardio Circuit, but the guys in the Insanity thread said that's going to feel like a warmup when I hit the workouts in Month 2.

Month 2 of Insanity workouts have harder warmups and an extra 3 set circuit.So when you're doing Plyometric Cardio Circuit, do the last circuit twice before stretching. That's equivalent to month 2 in terms of length. Plus the drills you do are harder. For example in Plyometric Caridio Circuit you do ski abs and then in and outs. In Month 2 you do ski abs/pushup jacks/in and outs/wide plank runs as an exercise in the circuit.

 

[Ned]

Yeah there really isn't anything like the strength work of P90x. Granted I haven't done all of the videos yet, but the 'Cardio Power & Resistance' video is still very cardio centered. You never pick up a weight, which is a nice change of pace.Since I haven't done all of the Insanity videos yet, I can't really comment on which ones to pick to supplement in with P90x. But, I have planned all along to do something similar with blending the 2 together. The hardest so far was Plyometric Cardio Circuit, but the guys in the Insanity thread said that's going to feel like a warmup when I hit the workouts in Month 2.

Month 2 of Insanity workouts have harder warmups and an extra 3 set circuit.So when you're doing Plyometric Cardio Circuit, do the last circuit twice before stretching. That's equivalent to month 2 in terms of length. Plus the drills you do are harder. For example in Plyometric Caridio Circuit you do ski abs and then in and outs. In Month 2 you do ski abs/pushup jacks/in and outs/wide plank runs as an exercise in the circuit.

I'm gonna go ahead and make sure my Will is up to date tomorrow morning.

 

[Disco Stu]

I'm supposed to start Phase 2 tonight, and I've been sick the past few days. There's no way I could have done day 5 or 6 of the recovery week (yoga and core synergistics), but I didn't feel like skipping those two would be a huge deal.

The problem is I'm still too weak to jump into day 1. Not sure how far this is going to set me back, but it sucks. Lost three pounds too.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm 36 years old. I've never been in great shape in my life. I'm 5'8" tall and I weigh 205ish. Is this something I should even consider? Sounds grueling.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

So I finished up. I started out in what I thought was great shape 6' 195 and finished at 187. I went from a muscular frame to lean and cut. Lean and ripped is much more in right now and that was what I was going for. In reality it's not anything that any trainer worth a lick couldn't tell you but the structure alone makes it worth the money. It takes away from countless hours scouring the internet or working with high dollar trainers for routines that will mix up enough to stunt your body.

The biggest thing is that I didn't expect to get stronger. I went in prior to starting to chart my max lifts and compare are the program was done. I went from maxing out on the flat bench at 290 to remarkable 335. 45 pound difference. I will admit that I used suppliments but I give all the credit to the product that kept me from cheating.

 

[Ned]

I'm supposed to start Phase 2 tonight, and I've been sick the past few days. There's no way I could have done day 5 or 6 of the recovery week (yoga and core synergistics), but I didn't feel like skipping those two would be a huge deal.The problem is I'm still too weak to jump into day 1. Not sure how far this is going to set me back, but it sucks. Lost three pounds too.

Maybe picking it back up with Yoga/Core Synergistics would be a good way to ease yourself back into it.How'd Phase 1 go? Man time flies.

 

[Ned]

I'm 36 years old. I've never been in great shape in my life. I'm 5'8" tall and I weigh 205ish. Is this something I should even consider? Sounds grueling.

It gets grueling at points, but I say go for it. I was never in great shape either, always being a 'skinny fat' kinda guy. After having 2 boys, building a new house, changing jobs, etc I got to my fattest point ever. But the changes I saw after finishing it were awesome. I'm not ripped/lean like you see on some of those before/afters, but the gains were pretty darn big (for me).

 

[trout]

I'm 36 years old. I've never been in great shape in my life. I'm 5'8" tall and I weigh 205ish. Is this something I should even consider? Sounds grueling.

It gets grueling at points, but I say go for it. I was never in great shape either, always being a 'skinny fat' kinda guy. After having 2 boys, building a new house, changing jobs, etc I got to my fattest point ever. But the changes I saw after finishing it were awesome. I'm not ripped/lean like you see on some of those before/afters, but the gains were pretty darn big (for me).

I would say 'yes' go for it. Do the fit test before hand to see how ready you are. If I recall, the basic minimum for men is like 5 pushups, 1 pullup...might be tough for some guys, but you will see the gains with this workout. There are many times throughout the workout when Tony mentions "some people might only be here"...he does a situp without lifting shoulder blades off the floor...."but over time I need you to be HERE!"...and he shows a legit situp. "I know it BURNS...it's supposed to!" You move and adapt to what you can do. At 5'8" 205 can you do one pullup? Who cares! Do one pullup assisted with a chair. Next time you do 3 assisted with a chair. the third time you might do 2 unassisted and 2 more assisted. it will suck. It's grueling and some people struggle more than others. But as a graduate, I'd recommend this program to just about anyone. I'm starting the program again on monday and I can't wait!

 

[trout]

So I finished up. I started out in what I thought was great shape 6' 195 and finished at 187. I went from a muscular frame to lean and cut. Lean and ripped is much more in right now and that was what I was going for. In reality it's not anything that any trainer worth a lick couldn't tell you but the structure alone makes it worth the money. It takes away from countless hours scouring the internet or working with high dollar trainers for routines that will mix up enough to stunt your body.

The biggest thing is that I didn't expect to get stronger. I went in prior to starting to chart my max lifts and compare are the program was done. I went from maxing out on the flat bench at 290 to remarkable 335. 45 pound difference. I will admit that I used suppliments but I give all the credit to the product that kept me from cheating.

I thought the same thing many times. Took the guess-work out figuring out what to do.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Didn't think I was in good enough shape for the p90x, but just got my Power 90 in the mail today and I am going to start that on Sunday.

 

[Ned]

So I finished up. I started out in what I thought was great shape 6' 195 and finished at 187. I went from a muscular frame to lean and cut. Lean and ripped is much more in right now and that was what I was going for. In reality it's not anything that any trainer worth a lick couldn't tell you but the structure alone makes it worth the money. It takes away from countless hours scouring the internet or working with high dollar trainers for routines that will mix up enough to stunt your body.

The biggest thing is that I didn't expect to get stronger. I went in prior to starting to chart my max lifts and compare are the program was done. I went from maxing out on the flat bench at 290 to remarkable 335. 45 pound difference. I will admit that I used suppliments but I give all the credit to the product that kept me from cheating.

I thought the same thing many times. Took the guess-work out figuring out what to do.

I'm convinced it's why I got so hooked into it. Prior attempts at doing any sort of self-made workout routines fell apart quickly because I didn't really know WTF I was doing. Great job Copters. 335

 

[Disco Stu]

I'm supposed to start Phase 2 tonight, and I've been sick the past few days. There's no way I could have done day 5 or 6 of the recovery week (yoga and core synergistics), but I didn't feel like skipping those two would be a huge deal.The problem is I'm still too weak to jump into day 1. Not sure how far this is going to set me back, but it sucks. Lost three pounds too.

Maybe picking it back up with Yoga/Core Synergistics would be a good way to ease yourself back into it.How'd Phase 1 go? Man time flies.

Phase 1 was great. I didn't see huge gains in most numbers but felt like it was much easier to keep up in week 3. Push-ups barely increased, but I was already decent there. Still not great at pull-ups but definitely improving. And Ab Ripper went from "you've got to be kidding me" (estimated 108 on day 1) to "ok maybe this is reasonable" (263 at end of week 3). Taking a 10-15 minute break before Ab Ripper made it much easier to tackle... physically and mentally.I'm itching to get into Phase 2, which is very frustrating. But when your legs feel tired just walking up the stairs, what can you do? I think you're right about easing back into it. I might just do X-Stretch tomorrow, and then Core and Yoga the next two days. That would mean starting Phase 2 Wednesday, which should be fine.Edited after discovering addition mistake in ab ripper #.

 

[Ned]

I'm supposed to start Phase 2 tonight, and I've been sick the past few days. There's no way I could have done day 5 or 6 of the recovery week (yoga and core synergistics), but I didn't feel like skipping those two would be a huge deal.The problem is I'm still too weak to jump into day 1. Not sure how far this is going to set me back, but it sucks. Lost three pounds too.

Maybe picking it back up with Yoga/Core Synergistics would be a good way to ease yourself back into it.How'd Phase 1 go? Man time flies.

Phase 1 was great. I didn't see huge gains in most numbers but felt like it was much easier to keep up in week 3. Push-ups barely increased, but I was already decent there. Still not great at pull-ups but definitely improving. And Ab Ripper went from "you've got to be kidding me" (estimated 108 on day 1) to "ok maybe this is reasonable" (278 at end of week 3). Taking a 10-15 minute break before Ab Ripper made it much easier to tackle... physically and mentally.I'm itching to get into Phase 2, which is very frustrating. But when your legs feel tired just walking up the stairs, what can you do? I think you're right about easing back into it. I might just do X-Stretch tomorrow, and then Core and Yoga the next two days. That would mean starting Phase 2 Wednesday, which should be fine.

You almost described my Phase 1 to a T, even down to the Ab Ripper #s. Good stuff!I hate the dead legs more than anything else. Coming from a running background, I was almost hypersensitive about how my legs felt from day to day. Not much you can do about it other than push through it or take a day off. I pushed through it most of the time, and was usually surprised to feel 100% better the following day.

 

[Disco Stu]

Corn cob pull-ups...

 

[Ned]

Corn cob pull-ups...

GB the chair.

 

[acapella]

It's probably buried somewhere in this thread, but what type of equipment do I need to do this routine? Some type of chinup bar, obviously, but people are also talking about weights. Can you unpack that a bit?

 

[Disco Stu]

It's probably buried somewhere in this thread, but what type of equipment do I need to do this routine? Some type of chinup bar, obviously, but people are also talking about weights. Can you unpack that a bit?

You need dumbbells. Or resistance bands if you'd rather go that route.Also a yoga mat. And yoga blocks if you're not very flexible. Pushup bars aren't required, but they help.

 

[Ned]

It's probably buried somewhere in this thread, but what type of equipment do I need to do this routine? Some type of chinup bar, obviously, but people are also talking about weights. Can you unpack that a bit?

You need dumbbells. Or resistance bands if you'd rather go that route.Also a yoga mat. And yoga blocks if you're not very flexible. Pushup bars aren't required, but they help.

Save your money on the pushup bars and just use dumbbells instead (assuming you don't get the adjustables).

 

[everydayj]

I'm knee deep in Insanity right now, but I was thinking of going the P90X direction afterward. Only issue is that I don't have a pull-up bar or a location even somewhat near my workout area that I could install one. Am I screwed?

 

[Disco Stu]

I'm knee deep in Insanity right now, but I was thinking of going the P90X direction afterward. Only issue is that I don't have a pull-up bar or a location even somewhat near my workout area that I could install one. Am I screwed?

No doorways anywhere close?

 

[everydayj]

I'm knee deep in Insanity right now, but I was thinking of going the P90X direction afterward. Only issue is that I don't have a pull-up bar or a location even somewhat near my workout area that I could install one. Am I screwed?

No doorways anywhere close?

Nearest doorway was converted into a wiiiiiide entrance during our last remodel, and it then flows into the kitchen. The nearest doorway would be essentially two rooms over, and since I've never done the workout before, I'm not sure that would be conducive to flow and such.