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Why isn't anyone thinking about the kids?Carroll's message on the podium: When you're receivers cheat with PI and your Defense takes cheap shots and the refs suck, you can win any game.Great message for the kids!
Why isn't anyone thinking about the kids?Carroll's message on the podium: When you're receivers cheat with PI and your Defense takes cheap shots and the refs suck, you can win any game.Great message for the kids!
But would have had to go the full distance. And Seattle was having trouble moving it at all. I get not doing it for exactly the reason you state, but the punt was almost blocked.Guessing because then it would have been tied with a FG.Why didn't GB take the safety and have a free kick and make them go the full distance?
They won the game. I mean seriously, a lot of games end in controversy and the winning team celebrates. Your statement is ridiculous, it's like this is the first game you ever watched as a fan that ended in controversy. Good God.Russell Wilson interview is ridiculous. I don't know how these guys can take themselves seriously. Pretending you won the game....major bush league. Just say "no" to the interview. At least be intellectually honest.
huh? you mean like negating a GB INT on a brutally bad roughing the passer call late in the 4th? or by not calling PI on Woodson, or the myriad other horrible calls that went in GBs favor? the only team that got handed this game was Seattle...You're right that this wasn't a game, however...none of the last two weeks have been. Just brutal to watch. I'm done until the real refs come back.419 User(s) are reading this topicINSANE!The billionaire NFL owners are trying to break the ref union with these worthless scabs so they can save a couple of hundred thousand dollars. IS IT WORTH IT YOU SCUM BILLIONAIRES????????? IS IT WORTH IT??????????????i'm almost sad about this ending because what's gonna be lost behind it is the fact that the whole game was like this and the packers got handed the game many times over by bad calls before they got "robbed". this wasn't even a game
Yes and no, what if they get a great return and are sitting at the 40? I think it was the right call.But would have had to go the full distance. And Seattle was having trouble moving it at all. I get not doing it for exactly the reason you state, but the punt was almost blocked.Guessing because then it would have been tied with a FG.Why didn't GB take the safety and have a free kick and make them go the full distance?
at the first down with both hands like a gun, pantomiming the act of alternating fire with two guns? Yeah, nah.He was pointing "first down".I cant shake the feeling this has something to do with Rodgers opening the game with a scramble and shooting finger pistols at the D Line.Or at least that explains the 10 sacks.
The ball never hit the ground, so complete versus incomplete is not an issue. The only issue is touchdown versus interception, and that depends on who controlled the ball first (or whether it was simultaneous), which isn't reviewable.But you can (and must) review for possession. Tate had a hand touching the ball, but a reasonable person wouldn't argue that he controlled the ball.I don't think you can review for simultaneous possession.
Or Belichick.Agreed. He handled the whole situation with class, gained a lot of respect for him tonight. Imagine if that were a hot head like Harbaugh.Props to McCarthy on this interview. Dude has major class not to freak out.

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What you just described is an interception.Um, I'm watching the slow-mo, and that's what I see. Jennings catches the ball. Tate has one hand on the ball. As they go down, he puts his second hand on the ball. By the time Jennings hits the ground, Tate has two hands on the ball.You're so full of crack it's not even funny. When you're ready to join reality, let us know.I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
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He has done it many times.H ewas not "shooting finger pistols at the Dline" who at that point are mostly behind him because he ran past all of them.at the first down with both hands like a gun, pantomiming the act of alternating fire with two guns? Yeah, nah.He was pointing "first down".I cant shake the feeling this has something to do with Rodgers opening the game with a scramble and shooting finger pistols at the D Line.Or at least that explains the 10 sacks.
I was thinking about the kids when GB was getting gift calls all game.Why isn't anyone thinking about the kids?Carroll's message on the podium: When you're receivers cheat with PI and your Defense takes cheap shots and the refs suck, you can win any game.Great message for the kids!
They gave Rogers a kicking ball on the 2-pt attempt.
I always understood possession to be completing the process of the catch, which would mean going to the ground and maintaining control. After hearing the wording with "control" and the actual definition of the rule on Sportscenter, I stand corrected. I would consider it an interception after hearing the official written rule.You do not understand football. Plain and simple. Tate had 2 hands on the ball? He threw one hand over the ball while it was still secured in the Packers player hands.What I mean is that he got his hand on the ball before Jennings established possession. At the time possession would have been established, Tate had both hands on the ball, just like Jennings.I actually lost a fantasy game because of that touchdown (I started the Packers defense), but personally, I think it was the right call.A hand on the ball is not possession.I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.Regardless, I'm glad it's being considered a bad call, because it may FINALLY be the thing that gets the real refs back.![]()
Why do you keep saying "full distance"? The Seahawks would have only needed to go about 45 yards to get into field goal range.But would have had to go the full distance. And Seattle was having trouble moving it at all. I get not doing it for exactly the reason you state, but the punt was almost blocked.Guessing because then it would have been tied with a FG.Why didn't GB take the safety and have a free kick and make them go the full distance?
huh? you mean like negating a GB INT on a brutally bad roughing the passer call late in the 4th? or by not calling PI on Woodson, or the myriad other horrible calls that went in GBs favor? the only team that got handed this game was Seattle...You're right that this wasn't a game, however...none of the last two weeks have been. Just brutal to watch. I'm done until the real refs come back.419 User(s) are reading this topicINSANE!The billionaire NFL owners are trying to break the ref union with these worthless scabs so they can save a couple of hundred thousand dollars. IS IT WORTH IT YOU SCUM BILLIONAIRES????????? IS IT WORTH IT??????????????i'm almost sad about this ending because what's gonna be lost behind it is the fact that the whole game was like this and the packers got handed the game many times over by bad calls before they got "robbed". this wasn't even a game
They won the game. I mean seriously, a lot of games end in controversy and the winning team celebrates. Your statement is ridiculous, it's like this is the first game you ever watched as a fan that ended in controversy. Good God.Russell Wilson interview is ridiculous. I don't know how these guys can take themselves seriously. Pretending you won the game....major bush league. Just say "no" to the interview. At least be intellectually honest.
You act like this happens with frequency. Every commentator on TV has basically said "I've never seen anything like this before." Seriously, it's comical to have him talk about "keeping plays alive" and "keeping fighting out there." That isn't why they won. They won because the refs jobbed the opposing team.They gave Rogers a kicking ball on the 2-pt attempt.

It was pretty easy to see. Jennings caught the ball and Tate caught Jennings.I think the call was wrong, but I honestly can't blame the refs for the possession issue. How many people here knew 100% who caught that when watching it live? Heck, we have people still arguing simultaneous possession after watching slomo replays. I could absolutely see the real refs having made the same call.But both calls/non-calls for PI on that lat drive were horrendous. Those really did cost the Packers the game and I think the real refs would have likely made the correct calls on both of those.
Don't be stupid tim. I'm expecting him to man up and say nothing other than "we fought hard, but that was a wild game. Later dudes."Nothing at all wrong with Russell Wilson's interview. You actually expect him to say, "Hey, we actually lost!"Some of you are acting crazy.
Belichick would be on his way to jail right now.
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Yeah, I don't think there's much he could've done there either.Nothing at all wrong with Russell Wilson's interview. You actually expect him to say, "Hey, we actually lost!"Some of you are acting crazy.
Quite the feat if Tate did that, since Jennings is laying on Tate's left arm when they landed...I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
He said it has happened before... These refs have done an admirable job.They gave Rogers a kicking ball on the 2-pt attempt.
They could have ruled it wasn't a catch.Can we go over the rule as it pertains to simultaneous possession and reviewing a play? Is it really true that if simultaneous possession is ruled on the field, it can't be overturned no matter how egregious or obviously wrong it is? What about if it is just ruled a plain touchdown, can it be overturned then? Or is it that once it is ruled that a particular player was the one to catch the ball, a review cannot change it to another player? Either way I am not a fan of this rule, and I want my 11pm bedtime back!![]()
They gave Rogers a kicking ball on the 2-pt attempt.
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It's fine that you feel that the call was wrong, it doesn't matter. The Seahawks WON THE GAME, they won. Why would their players not be happy? The Tigers lost a game this year where they had bases loaded, down by two in the top of the sixth and the umps brought the tarp out after it had been raining all night. Had the next batter hit a double they would have been up a run, and right now they'd be tied for first place. If the White Sox win the division by one game using your logic they shouldn't celebrate, they won it under false pretenses.They won the game. I mean seriously, a lot of games end in controversy and the winning team celebrates. Your statement is ridiculous, it's like this is the first game you ever watched as a fan that ended in controversy. Good God.Russell Wilson interview is ridiculous. I don't know how these guys can take themselves seriously. Pretending you won the game....major bush league. Just say "no" to the interview. At least be intellectually honest.You act like this happens with frequency. Every commentator on TV has basically said "I've never seen anything like this before." Seriously, it's comical to have him talk about "keeping plays alive" and "keeping fighting out there." That isn't why they won. They won because the refs jobbed the opposing team.
Yeah, you and three other guys in the USA have that opinion. This is beyond ridiculous.Good call by the refs there. They understood the extent of what could be ruled, what could be overturned, and made the right call.
You should really start your own thread. I'm concerned that if you keep posting in here, all of your trolling will go entirely unnoticed. Just too much traffic.Hawks D took it to GB.... and at the end when it mattered most Wilson got the job done. Here come the Hawks!!!![]()