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Packers 4-1 vs Redskins 3-1, conference game involving the 2nd and 3rd best records in the conference.

Plenty to talk about here. Two good (possibly one really good) defenses here, possibly the best QB ever coming off a down week in what had previously been a smoking hot start, a young QB possibly coming into his own, the Skins running game vs. a team with virtually no running game at all, what will Santana Moss do, when will I end this run on sentence....

All we're hearing about is the Pats/Cowboys, which I think the Pats will win easily, and nothing about this game which should be a very tight contest by two of the best teams of the first quarter of the season in a game that will definitely affect the NFC playoff picture. What gives? Let's talk about it.

I don't see this as a high scoring game, as the Packers are weak vs. the pass which I don't think the Redskins can fully capitalize on yet. I'm thinking Moss isn't completely right, and the chemistry hasn't been there between him and Campbell yet. Randal El is hurt as well, so the passing options are limited. On the other side, I think the Redskin D is still very underrated by most, and I think they can make the Packers pay for what has been a mostly one dimensional offense, as they have the speed on D to stay with the Packers in the spread formations that they run. It should be an interesting contrast of offensive styles.

Though the Packers have a serious edge in the passing game this week, I think the Redskins are the more balanced team and win a close one.

 
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Packers 4-1 vs Redskins 3-1, divisional game involving the 2nd and 3rd best records in the conference.
The Packers and Skins aren't in the same division, but they are two NFC conference teams with good records. I'm looking forward to this game as well.
 
WDIS WDIPU and now WDIBO? nice.
:goodposting:I don't bet on games (unless I'm in Vegas or something for a weekend, and then it's just a lark). I just use the point spread in polls like this to get a gauge on what people feel the margin of victory/closeness of the game will be.
 
I'm thinking Moss isn't completely right, and the chemistry hasn't been there between him and Campbell yet. Randal El is hurt as well, so the passing options are limited.
This may be the only part I have a slight disagreement with. Moss was running well at the end of last week and was held out of last weeks game as a precautionary measure. He's been practicing fully all this week. I have no doubts he's 100% heading into Sunday.Also, without Moss or Randle El, Campbell still passed well in the 2nd half last week, including 19 and 20 yard passes to Keenan McCardell (who had been on the team less than a week). So, even if ARE can't go this week, I think their passing options are fine, especially considering that the WR2 is often the 4th passing option anyways (behind WR1, Cooley and the RBs).As long as the 'Skins can keep the confidence gained from last week's win and play to their strengths, I think they win a relatively close game (thinking a 7 point difference or less).
 
Nobody really knows how good either of these 2 teams are yet. This game will answer a lot of that.
:bs: The winner of this game has to feel like they've built some momentum for the playoffs and has gotten a leg up on a major rival for a playoff spot this year. The loser will wonder whether their wins or losses this season are more indicative of who they are. I expect a moderate scoring game, with the team that wins being the one that exceeds 20 points. I think the critical advantage here goes to the 'Skins with their running game and ability therefore to control the clock and protect a lead. I also think that the 'Skins defense matches up better against the Packers offense overall, than vice-versa. Turnovers figure to be huge. My pick - and yes, I'm biased - is something like 20-17 or 24-20 'Skins.
 
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Joe Montana's playing QB?
:confused: No, find Montana on the all time win list. Then move to the top of that list. HTH.
You're talking Super Bowl wins, right?
I didn't realize they were playing the Super Bowl this weekend.
I didn't realize interceptions = greatness.
Apparently, you also missed the memo about TDs being a pretty important part of the game of football.
 
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....

 
If Favre gets time I'd expect him to test the Skins secondary deep and frequently; the Packer WR's will be able to beat the Redskin CB's some of the time. If the Redskins can collapse the pocket I expect some INT's. The Packers never run much and won't be able to. The Redskins should be able to run and probably will run often. If Campbell gets time he'll find receivers open, but he'll probably throw a few he'll want back also. This should be a close game. I see it coming down to a critical drive or turnover in the 4th quarter.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
:confused: No, find Montana on the all time win list. Then move to the top of that list. HTH.
You're talking Super Bowl wins, right?
I didn't realize they were playing the Super Bowl this weekend.
I didn't realize longevity = greatness.
Judging from your user name, I can see your point.
 
With this game early and Pats-Cowboys late, it's a great week for football even if your favorite team is on a bye. :confused:

 
I'm from Washington DC , I've lived here my whole life.

All this being said the Skins are flying high off a win and the Pack is coming off a close loss.

The Pack is actually going to beat them bad I think. The Skins offense is still too erratic where as The Packers O should move up and down the field fairly easily.

Smoot and Carlos Rogers are liabilities. S Taylor while a big hitter misses the easy ones and Landry is a inexperienced rook that learns something new every week.

Stay away from the Skins.

 
packing my raingear as it looks like steady rain all day in titletown tomorrow

with Wells out and Coston banged up, I've got a real bad feeling about this matchup for the Packers

 
I'm from Washington DC , I've lived here my whole life.All this being said the Skins are flying high off a win and the Pack is coming off a close loss. The Pack is actually going to beat them bad I think. The Skins offense is still too erratic where as The Packers O should move up and down the field fairly easily.Smoot and Carlos Rogers are liabilities. S Taylor while a big hitter misses the easy ones and Landry is a inexperienced rook that learns something new every week.Stay away from the Skins.
Unfortunately, I agree with this. The Week 3 game against the Giants still gives me nightmares. I see this game being much worse for the 'Skins. :blackdot:
 
Smoot and Carlos Rogers are liabilities.
Somewhat true.
S Taylor while a big hitter misses the easy ones
Not this year, no. He's been very good on pass coverage and sticking with assignments this year. And he's been clocking people all over the field. Watch the Packer WR's going across the middle near the end of the game, and watch how short their arms have gotten.
 
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If I like the Redskins straight up, would I not like them at +3? Check out the FFA for the NFL wagering thread. And I'd lay off this game. If forced to pick, play WAS ML.

 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
:mellow: Griffin is playing like he was in 2005 and Montgomery is having a great year.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
hey.. wake up.. best qb ever.. favre!! put smokin joe behind that team favre has had for his tenure and see if joe gets out alive.. than put favre with what montana had.. rice,taylor, craig and everything else and you need 3 hands for all his rings he would have got.. not even comparison.. all those weapons and montana isnt anywhere near favre.. longevity????.. not favres fault hes a god and kid at heart and wants to play.. too bad all players dont have that spirit... favre will be sorely missed when he leaves.. but he will have all the records when he does
 
-Crippler- said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
:shrug: No, find Montana on the all time win list. Then move to the top of that list. HTH.
You're talking Super Bowl wins, right?
I didn't realize they were playing the Super Bowl this weekend.
I didn't realize interceptions = greatness.
throw as much as favre and you are bound to make ints.. with his velocity.. many ints werent favres fault.. but thats why hes a gunslinger.. and ints isnt the only record he has.. he has them all or will have by years end
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
Their DTs have actually been pretty good. The DEs are average and that's where their weakness lays. I like the Skins this week because you can run on them all day, the Packers have no rush offense to speak of so it should be a pretty good game. I agree with fatness, it's going to come down to a turnover in the 4th quarter.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
;) No, find Montana on the all time win list. Then move to the top of that list. HTH.
You're talking Super Bowl wins, right?
I didn't realize they were playing the Super Bowl this weekend.
I didn't realize longevity = greatness.
From the name I take it a Bear fan? No big surprise as most Bear fans hate Favre with a passion as they should. Happy too see them bitter still and that he still bugs them so much even though they beat him once in a while now!! :stirspot:
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
:lmao: Griffin is playing like he was in 2005 and Montgomery is having a great year.
Well see how they play out down the stretch. Westy and Ward were 4/6 yards off 100 yard days, Miami wasn't organized week 1 and Kevin Jones was on pace for about 100 with 11 carries 48 yards.If you run outside on the skins the LBs have the speed to blow you up. If you run up the gut I think you'll find success. I'm not saying Griffin hasn't made his share of plays either. I just think aside from the Smoot being liability 1, the DTs can be exploited.
 
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Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
:lmao: Griffin is playing like he was in 2005 and Montgomery is having a great year.
Well see how they play out down the stretch. Westy and Ward were 4/6 yards off 100 yard days, Miami wasn't organized week 1 and Kevin Jones was on pace for about 100 with 11 carries 48 yards.

If you run outside on the skins the LBs have the speed to blow you up. If you run up the gut I think you'll find success.

I'm not saying Griffin hasn't made his share of plays either. I just think aside from the Smoot, the DTs can be exploited.
Smoot is a CB
 
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Sabertooth said:
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
:lmao: No, find Montana on the all time win list. Then move to the top of that list. HTH.
You're talking Super Bowl wins, right?
I didn't realize they were playing the Super Bowl this weekend.
I didn't realize longevity = greatness.
From the name I take it a Bear fan? No big surprise as most Bear fans hate Favre with a passion as they should. Happy too see them bitter still and that he still bugs them so much even though they beat him once in a while now!! :lmao:
There's no way that I hate Brett Favre. I think he's a great QB and ranks right up there with the best. I just don't happen to think he's the best, that spot's for Joe Montana right now. And when it's all said and done, when the now active QBs wrap up their careers (Brady / Manning) he'll have a hard time breaking the top 5 let alone top 3.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Joe Montana's playing QB?
hey.. wake up.. best qb ever.. favre!! put smokin joe behind that team favre has had for his tenure and see if joe gets out alive.. than put favre with what montana had.. rice,taylor, craig and everything else and you need 3 hands for all his rings he would have got.. not even comparison.. all those weapons and montana isnt anywhere near favre.. longevity????.. not favres fault hes a god and kid at heart and wants to play.. too bad all players dont have that spirit... favre will be sorely missed when he leaves.. but he will have all the records when he does
:lmao:
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
:lmao: Griffin is playing like he was in 2005 and Montgomery is having a great year.
Well see how they play out down the stretch. Westy and Ward were 4/6 yards off 100 yard days, Miami wasn't organized week 1 and Kevin Jones was on pace for about 100 with 11 carries 48 yards.

If you run outside on the skins the LBs have the speed to blow you up. If you run up the gut I think you'll find success.

I'm not saying Griffin hasn't made his share of plays either. I just think aside from the Smoot, the DTs can be exploited.
Smoot is a CB
I meant besides Smoot being a bigger liability the DTs come in a close 2nd.
 
If I like the Redskins straight up, would I not like them at +3? Check out the FFA for the NFL wagering thread. And I'd lay off this game. If forced to pick, play WAS ML.
See post 10. Also IF you were betting and you thought the skins are going to win, you'd do better to take them on the money line rather than getting the points, but as a hard core gambler I'm sure you know that.
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I was optimistic about Green Bay's chances in this one. But they're missing their starting center and starting guard now. That doesn't give me a good feeling in this one....
If there is anything positive to take from the injuries, the biggest weakness on the skins d is there DT play.
:kicksrock: Griffin is playing like he was in 2005 and Montgomery is having a great year.
Well see how they play out down the stretch. Westy and Ward were 4/6 yards off 100 yard days, Miami wasn't organized week 1 and Kevin Jones was on pace for about 100 with 11 carries 48 yards.

If you run outside on the skins the LBs have the speed to blow you up. If you run up the gut I think you'll find success.

I'm not saying Griffin hasn't made his share of plays either. I just think aside from the Smoot, the DTs can be exploited.
Smoot is a CB
I meant besides Smoot being a bigger liability the DTs come in a close 2nd.
ahh I see what you mean now. Smoot is pretty good as a 3rd corner. The problem is Carlos Rogers has not stepped up to be a solid #2 more than anything else.
 
These teams are not very good. GB has no run game...WAS can't run consistently. Both teams are hard to watch. I hope these are not teams 2 & 3 in the NFC.

 
These teams are not very good. GB has no run game...WAS can't run consistently. Both teams are hard to watch. I hope these are not teams 2 & 3 in the NFC.
I disagree. I think they both have really good defenses, and if their offenses can get healthy, and improve in certain areas, they will be dangerous teams as the season goes on.
 
Both teams have pretty good defenses and spotty offenses right now. And by the way, congrats to the Packers and their fans, they deserved to win today.

 
Did the defenses only look good because the offenses were inept?

I watched the game a s a Portis owner...I could be biased, but wht do they take him out of the game on 3rd downs? He is a good blocker and receiver...why take him out?

 
they have some rotation and basically say it doesn't matter who's in at RB. Not sure how much to believe that. He is banged up though, Portis looks like a shell of his former self right now.

 
Did the defenses only look good because the offenses were inept?
These are two very solid defenses you saw out there today. The offense did not look great. Consider the offensive line injuries on both teams. Also consider the weather conditions. Add in two pretty good defenses. Yes, it was sloppy. But there's a reason for that.
 

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