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PacMan a Cowboy Done Deal? (1 Viewer)
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Bankerguy
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Wow. NFC East continues to get stronger. Excellent deal for the 'Boys.
Not a bad deal for the Titans, although I'm sure they wish they could have received more.
Not a bad deal for the Titans, although I'm sure they wish they could have received more.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
I am worried no other big networks are reporting this.Just reporting what I saw.Would be scary with Newman and Pacman.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives...-on-pacman.html
Nothing to report on Pacman
8:11 PM Sun, Mar 30, 2008
Albert Breer
I've seen some of the comments, and the fervor for news around here, and I can tell you that we now have indications from both the Cowboys and Titans organizations that nothing is imminent on the Pacman Jones front.
The sides are still talking, and the owners meetings could provide the forum to speed things up. But the feeling, for now, is that there's plenty to be worked out if this, indeed, is going to happen.
At issue, first and foremost, is Pacman's suspension, and there's also some discrepancy in the idea of his trade value. We'll keep you posted as things move forward here. For now, you'll have to be happy with this report that there's nothing big to report.
Nothing to report on Pacman
8:11 PM Sun, Mar 30, 2008
Albert Breer
I've seen some of the comments, and the fervor for news around here, and I can tell you that we now have indications from both the Cowboys and Titans organizations that nothing is imminent on the Pacman Jones front.
The sides are still talking, and the owners meetings could provide the forum to speed things up. But the feeling, for now, is that there's plenty to be worked out if this, indeed, is going to happen.
At issue, first and foremost, is Pacman's suspension, and there's also some discrepancy in the idea of his trade value. We'll keep you posted as things move forward here. For now, you'll have to be happy with this report that there's nothing big to report.
duece2626
Footballguy
Does this make Henry the nickel CB?
Bankerguy
Footballguy
I have editted the title pending more concrete proof-My apologies everyone.Henry would be the 3rd CB, but Newman would play the slot in 3 WR sets-not Henry.
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Bankerguy
Footballguy
The agent representing suspended Tennessee Titans defensive back Adam "Pacman" Jones denied an Internet report that said his client had been traded to the Dallas Cowboys for a fifth-round pick.
A report on Rototimes.com said Jones has been dealt, but Manny Arora said he has been told nothing of the kind.
"You would think the Titans would tell me they had traded him if they had," Arora said.
The NFL owners are meeting in West Palm Beach, Fla., and sources said that management from both the Titans and the Cowboys have met to discuss a trade for the suspended defensive back.
"Right now I'm more concerned about the suspension; there are a lot of teams interested. Not just the Cowboys," Arora said.
Arora said he plans to have Jones apply for reinstatement to the NFL shortly after April 10. That is the one-year mark of the league's new behavior program.
The NFL has given no indication whether it will reinstate Jones, other than to say it will make a decision before the start of training camps
A report on Rototimes.com said Jones has been dealt, but Manny Arora said he has been told nothing of the kind.
"You would think the Titans would tell me they had traded him if they had," Arora said.
The NFL owners are meeting in West Palm Beach, Fla., and sources said that management from both the Titans and the Cowboys have met to discuss a trade for the suspended defensive back.
"Right now I'm more concerned about the suspension; there are a lot of teams interested. Not just the Cowboys," Arora said.
Arora said he plans to have Jones apply for reinstatement to the NFL shortly after April 10. That is the one-year mark of the league's new behavior program.
The NFL has given no indication whether it will reinstate Jones, other than to say it will make a decision before the start of training camps
Mustang Man
Footballguy
Henry could see some time at S as well if Pacman works out.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I thought the Boys would not make a deal until Pacman was officially reinstated first.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
I have not heard that. I do believe JJ would not make a move unless he heard something making him believe Pacman will be reinstated before training camp begins. I doubt he goes blindly into this. That may be what is really holding this up.
Pacman has been suspended longer than any player. In that regard, there's some good reason to believe his "sentence" is up. Goodell has been tougher than his predecessors on the players that don't behave, and that's the monkey wrench some are trying to figure out.
The people that replied back to me from the Tennessean and Titansonline said they had no knowledge that this was a done deal.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Pacman in Dallas, a match made in heaven.
He will not make it 8 games before getting in trouble.
He will not make it 8 games before getting in trouble.
Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
Sig bet?
Brutis
Footballguy
I remember hearing the same thing about T.O. How'd that work out? lol
Abraham
Footballguy
They had better not be dumb enough to take a 5th rounder for him. He's worth a 3rd AT LEAST. My thinking is that if he's eligible to play and sorts out his issues enough to play at all, then he needs to play in Nashville. The price is lower due to him still being suspended, which is why the Titans should wait.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
Finally someone who is not a Dallas fan not dismissing this as a big mistake. It is refreshing to see non Cowboy fans not hating on them and that can see the value in this gamble. I guess a Super Bowl victory can change your perspective on things huh Yenrub?
Ridgelake
Footballguy
One thing that I read is holding up this trade is Lito Shepard. There are reportedly multiple parties interested in Lito. The Titans are hoping that, once Lito is moved, the losing pursuers will re-evaluate their interest in Pacman. A bigger market obviously helps the Titans as its reported that Dallas is the only interested party right now.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Super Bowl or not I still hate the Cowgirls (and every other team in the NFC east)
But just because I hate them doesn’t mean I can’t be reasonable about their talent or even respect them.
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I read that Tennessee originally put out the idea they expected a 4th rounder, but now they've decided that's not enough. They are suggesting a 3rd. I can't imagine Dallas is the only team interested.
Abraham
Footballguy
I'd say the odds are between "certainty" and "without question." He was a top-2 return man before getting suspended.
kerpow
Footballguy
Nice, looks like he'll be right after McGee at the top of my DB rankings then (IDP with return yards scoring)
Phurfur
Footballguy
If you don't know the difference between these two you have no business responding.
Dallas should just tell Tennessee to stick Pacman where the sun dont shine. They were ready to release Pacman not long ago...now Tennessee keeps raising the price to acquire him knowing Dallas wants him. That's bush league. I can't stand people like that in my fantasy leagues and dont ever play into their game. I say Dallas should move on with the draft and nab a young corner (OR TWO) in the first round. They ultimately dont need Pacman and should stick it to Tennessee by leaving them with a problem on their hands.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Personally, I think Dallas sabotaged themselves with a super lowball offer. Once that was made public, and it looked like TEN was likely going to make the deal, I'm sure more than one GM made a few phone calls saying they could match or better it. At that sort of low cost, I'm sure Pacman started to draw a lot more interest.
Jerry should have offered up something a little better upfront and gotten the deal done. Now he's actually helped to create a market for Jones and give TEN leverage while he has ZERO. For a smart businessman, that wasn't the smartest thing he could have done.
Jerry should have offered up something a little better upfront and gotten the deal done. Now he's actually helped to create a market for Jones and give TEN leverage while he has ZERO. For a smart businessman, that wasn't the smartest thing he could have done.
delusional
Footballguy
So trading for a guy who still isn't allowed to play football?
Tyrion
Footballguy
Actually the Titans are the ones without leverage. Fisher has already gone on record as saying that Pacman will not be back. No other team has shown interest. Every team that the Titans have tried to draw into the scenario as fake partners (Detroit and New England)has denied interest. If you are a bad team, why take the chance of signing Pacman? How many good teams feel like they have the foundation in place to support him? Do you really risk getting him when you know he wants to play somewhere else? The list of potential partners is really pretty small.
tombonneau
Footballguy
I think you underestimate how many GMs would gamble on Pacmans talent for a 5th + a player. Esp. a team like the Skins or Giants in Dallas's division. Or Al Davis. All it takes is one more team to jump into the running.If the Titans can't get an offer they like, the could still kiss & makeup. It wouldn't be the first time it happened in sports. Look at Arod. Heck, look at Ty Law. The guy made ad hominem attacks against his coach and still suited up and played.
Tyrion
Footballguy
We will have to agree to disagree on this one. While I can see the Titans receiving a 5th and a Player, I think the player will be one that the team planned to cut anyway. If there were interest from other teams for Pacman, we would hear about it. There is too much media attention on it at the moment for it to remain secret. As far as Pacman returning to the Titans I don't remember any of the coaches on those teams saying that the player was not welcome back to the team.
And yet they are still America's team. The star shines always.
Tyrion
Footballguy
Yeah he also said that the deal would be done by today. I will count that deal when it goes down.If Adam keeps saying the deal will be done in a week I guess the odds are he will eventually be right.
Routilla
Footballguy
No doubt about it. Good call.
Tyrion
Footballguy
Fortunately we Cowboy fans still have fond memories of all of many many Superbowl appearances and wins to help us during this time of famine and it will only make that next Superbowl all the sweeter.
Routilla
Footballguy
You aint just whistlin' Dixie!
Sorry, but bringing in Pacman will do nothing but tarnish the star even more.
TO was/is a sack of crazy that everyone knew would end up playing.Jones is a sack of stupidity that you don't know if he will even be allowed to play opening day.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Now that PFT is reporting the Pack are showing interest in the Pac, maybe we can agree to agree.Tyrion said:
Actually, while PFT was good about breaking FREE AGENT signings earlier this month, the rest of their work has been garbage. They are reporting GB has interest based on nothing but their own speculation that Al Harris is 34-years-old and Charles Woodson is 32-years-old and they wanted to sign Randy Moss last year. Now that the big hoopla of free agency is over PFT is really desperate for stories right now and will resort to making things up now. No way is GB interested in Pacman, especially with their veteran presence of Farvre gone now.
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
Am I the only one that thinks Titans getting rid of Pac is a bad move? You would think Fisher could handle the situation. You're giving up a game breaking player..
Abraham
Footballguy
Agree 100%. If the league deems him fit to play, then he should be playing in Nashville.
In one single day (April 1st), PFT has gone from reporting that Green Bay was interested in Pacman, to then backtracking and saying Green Bay not interested in Pacman, to reporting Pacman may never play in the NFL again. Talk about throwing darts at the dartboard with a blindfold on and hoping something sticks. Really...get a clue PFT.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
That will not happen sense both sides have said they are done with each other. The Titans screwed themselves in that regard.
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