Paleo / Primal Blueprint type diets (4 Viewers)

[culdeus]

First off, there's simply no way to add more than a pound of muscle a month unless you are on roids or you are 18 years old. So put aside that notion. You can put on a little bit of beginner gains, but these are mostly pump type gains and not real mass.

This is simply wrong. I'm not saying all people can add >1lb muscle per month like clockwork forever, but to suggest that only roiders and 18y/o's can do it is ridiculous. And just about anyone can beat that rate when regaining lost muscle.

Like I said, beginner gains. If you are undertrained you can put on a little more in the first few weeks/months than you can sustain. But more than a pound a month is really hard once you restrict carbs. And even with high carbs it's still not super easy to go >1.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

FWIW: Review of the Perfect Health Diet by Jaminet.

Cliff Notes: Good dietary advice backed by occasionally poor research.

I don't agree with every aspect of the review, but its criticism regarding selective citation does seem valid.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I have dabbled in many low carb diets over the years, but I've committed to doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

 

[culdeus]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

 

[Keerock]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

Soylent Green!

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

 

[culdeus]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

Well we could kill off all the poor people.

 

[Jack White]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

 

[culdeus]

http://io9.com/why-the-paleo-diet-and-lifestyle-are-not-based-in-scien-493239551

Addressed at length pages ago.

I think he is posting a different article. I don't recall that one specifically.

Yeah, ntz08 posted an excerpt from the introduction of the book, which I hadn't seen before.

I'd like to read the book; I'm just not going to have time for a while.

Based on what I have read (including the excerpt that ntz08 posted), I'm not sure what Zuk's main point is. She's not telling people to eat candy and donuts, I presume. She has made the case that some people are more or less adapted to consuming dairy. (Not a new revelation, but some in the paleo community may still need to hear it.) Is she also arguing that some people are pretty well adapted to eating grains, including modern wheat? Or is she merely arguing that evolutionary theory doesn't rule the possibility out? The first would be a lot more interesting than the second.

The paleo diet means so many things to so many different people: there is the Cordain version, the Neanderthin version, the Sisson version, the Jaminet version, the low-carb version, and so on. Some versions exclude dairy, some don't. Some exclude all grains, some don't. Some exclude legumes, some don't.

So I sympathize with Zuk if it seems like she's aiming at a moving target. At the same time, though, whenever I read an excerpt or article by her, I can't really tell what she's trying to aim at. It seems like she's aiming at the theoretical underpinnings of the diet rather than at its practical advice; but the theoretical underpinnings she's taking aim at appear in many cases to be straw men. She criticizes the assumption, for example, "that we evolved until we reached a particular point and now are unlikely to change for the rest of history." But who believes that?

I guess I need to read the book to find out if she's got anything to add to the discussion about which specific foods (or general categories of foods) we're well adapted to, which ones we aren't, and which are a matter of individual variation.

Not quoting this post for any reason in particular.

It was right here in May 2013 I decided to go full time primal. I took the 80/20, but for much of the time it was more like 90/10 following of the protocols that Mark Sisson calls out.

In 2 years I gained 20 pounds of lean mass and dropped 4 pounds of fat for a total gain of 16 pounds.

I feel great and look good too. I'm completely hooked on this approach for lean gain method and for fat loss.

 

[Jack White]

http://io9.com/why-the-paleo-diet-and-lifestyle-are-not-based-in-scien-493239551

Addressed at length pages ago.

I think he is posting a different article. I don't recall that one specifically.

Yeah, ntz08 posted an excerpt from the introduction of the book, which I hadn't seen before.

I'd like to read the book; I'm just not going to have time for a while.

Based on what I have read (including the excerpt that ntz08 posted), I'm not sure what Zuk's main point is. She's not telling people to eat candy and donuts, I presume. She has made the case that some people are more or less adapted to consuming dairy. (Not a new revelation, but some in the paleo community may still need to hear it.) Is she also arguing that some people are pretty well adapted to eating grains, including modern wheat? Or is she merely arguing that evolutionary theory doesn't rule the possibility out? The first would be a lot more interesting than the second.

The paleo diet means so many things to so many different people: there is the Cordain version, the Neanderthin version, the Sisson version, the Jaminet version, the low-carb version, and so on. Some versions exclude dairy, some don't. Some exclude all grains, some don't. Some exclude legumes, some don't.

So I sympathize with Zuk if it seems like she's aiming at a moving target. At the same time, though, whenever I read an excerpt or article by her, I can't really tell what she's trying to aim at. It seems like she's aiming at the theoretical underpinnings of the diet rather than at its practical advice; but the theoretical underpinnings she's taking aim at appear in many cases to be straw men. She criticizes the assumption, for example, "that we evolved until we reached a particular point and now are unlikely to change for the rest of history." But who believes that?

I guess I need to read the book to find out if she's got anything to add to the discussion about which specific foods (or general categories of foods) we're well adapted to, which ones we aren't, and which are a matter of individual variation.

Not quoting this post for any reason in particular.

It was right here in May 2013 I decided to go full time primal. I took the 80/20, but for much of the time it was more like 90/10 following of the protocols that Mark Sisson calls out.

In 2 years I gained 20 pounds of lean mass and dropped 4 pounds of fat for a total gain of 16 pounds.

I feel great and look good too. I'm completely hooked on this approach for lean gain method and for fat loss.

Congrats on your success!

I've been primal since September 2012, also with excellent results.

 

[AAABatteries]

http://io9.com/why-the-paleo-diet-and-lifestyle-are-not-based-in-scien-493239551

Addressed at length pages ago.

I think he is posting a different article. I don't recall that one specifically.

Yeah, ntz08 posted an excerpt from the introduction of the book, which I hadn't seen before.

I'd like to read the book; I'm just not going to have time for a while.

Based on what I have read (including the excerpt that ntz08 posted), I'm not sure what Zuk's main point is. She's not telling people to eat candy and donuts, I presume. She has made the case that some people are more or less adapted to consuming dairy. (Not a new revelation, but some in the paleo community may still need to hear it.) Is she also arguing that some people are pretty well adapted to eating grains, including modern wheat? Or is she merely arguing that evolutionary theory doesn't rule the possibility out? The first would be a lot more interesting than the second.

The paleo diet means so many things to so many different people: there is the Cordain version, the Neanderthin version, the Sisson version, the Jaminet version, the low-carb version, and so on. Some versions exclude dairy, some don't. Some exclude all grains, some don't. Some exclude legumes, some don't.

So I sympathize with Zuk if it seems like she's aiming at a moving target. At the same time, though, whenever I read an excerpt or article by her, I can't really tell what she's trying to aim at. It seems like she's aiming at the theoretical underpinnings of the diet rather than at its practical advice; but the theoretical underpinnings she's taking aim at appear in many cases to be straw men. She criticizes the assumption, for example, "that we evolved until we reached a particular point and now are unlikely to change for the rest of history." But who believes that?

I guess I need to read the book to find out if she's got anything to add to the discussion about which specific foods (or general categories of foods) we're well adapted to, which ones we aren't, and which are a matter of individual variation.

Not quoting this post for any reason in particular.

It was right here in May 2013 I decided to go full time primal. I took the 80/20, but for much of the time it was more like 90/10 following of the protocols that Mark Sisson calls out.

In 2 years I gained 20 pounds of lean mass and dropped 4 pounds of fat for a total gain of 16 pounds.

I feel great and look good too. I'm completely hooked on this approach for lean gain method and for fat loss.

culdeus - interested in what you're eating in your 10/20 percent non-paleo - is it essentially whatever you want?

Also, I've always been more concerned about the weigh aspect - I've never gotten to the point of using this diet for maintenance - do you ever plan to increase your ratio to 70/30 or 60/40? I love the way that I'm eating but I'm torn on where I am with the ratios - I'd like to think I'm at 80/20 but I still use regular salad dressing and things like that. I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

 

[Jack White]

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

 

[Chaka]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

 

[AAABatteries]

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

Yes, I am - and I know it's not real healthy and that I shouldn't eat it - anything else is just an excuse - I'll try out some recipes and see what I like.

 

[Jack White]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

Yes, I am - and I know it's not real healthy and that I shouldn't eat it - anything else is just an excuse - I'll try out some recipes and see what I like.

Yeah, definitely try some different recipes. Not only healthier, but fresh and delicious.

I also love some sesame oil-based dressings for variety.

 

[Jack White]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

I know I could just Google it, but for the benefit of everyone, can you tell us more about NEAT?

 

[AAABatteries]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

Hi Chaka - I haven't been diligent in updating MyFitnessPal but see you on there a lot still. I'm doing well with what I'm doing so I don't really plan on changing. I've posted in other threads but I'm down from 240 to (206.6 today actually) so ~33 lbs lost. I'm not really running - I can't because of the weight and knees so I'm mostly walking/jogging. I'm looking to get down to 170 but eliminating my walking I won't do. What I do plan to do is adding weight-lifting - keep waiting for my new gym membership to kick in (long story)

 

[Jack White]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

Hi Chaka - I haven't been diligent in updating MyFitnessPal but see you on there a lot still. I'm doing well with what I'm doing so I don't really plan on changing. I've posted in other threads but I'm down from 240 to (206.6 today actually) so ~33 lbs lost. I'm not really running - I can't because of the weight and knees so I'm mostly walking/jogging. I'm looking to get down to 170 but eliminating my walking I won't do. What I do plan to do is adding weight-lifting - keep waiting for my new gym membership to kick in (long story)

I've mentioned this before - have you ever tried or considered Russian Kettlebell training?

I find I enjoy it much more than weight lifting, and also with far better results.

 

[AAABatteries]

I've mentioned this before - have you ever tried or considered Russian Kettlebell training?

I find I enjoy it much more than weight lifting, and also with far better results.

I've heard of it - never tried it and don't have access (today) to the kettlebells. Honestly, never considered it - I'm willing to try it though. Why do you enjoy it more than lifting?

 

[Jack White]

I've mentioned this before - have you ever tried or considered Russian Kettlebell training?

I find I enjoy it much more than weight lifting, and also with far better results.

I've heard of it - never tried it and don't have access (today) to the kettlebells. Honestly, never considered it - I'm willing to try it though. Why do you enjoy it more than lifting?

It's a more dynamic form of resistance training. It works the whole body rather than just specific body parts.

It also gives you more bang for the buck in two other ways:

1. You get strength, cardio and flexibility training all at once.

2. It's a high intensity form of training, so you can get your work done in a half-hour or less.

One caveat: form and safety are paramount. If you decide to try it, make sure you get some individual or group training by an RKC-certified trainer.

I worked with one for over a year, then invested in a few bells of my own.

 

[culdeus]

http://io9.com/why-the-paleo-diet-and-lifestyle-are-not-based-in-scien-493239551

Addressed at length pages ago.

I think he is posting a different article. I don't recall that one specifically.

Yeah, ntz08 posted an excerpt from the introduction of the book, which I hadn't seen before.

I'd like to read the book; I'm just not going to have time for a while.

Based on what I have read (including the excerpt that ntz08 posted), I'm not sure what Zuk's main point is. She's not telling people to eat candy and donuts, I presume. She has made the case that some people are more or less adapted to consuming dairy. (Not a new revelation, but some in the paleo community may still need to hear it.) Is she also arguing that some people are pretty well adapted to eating grains, including modern wheat? Or is she merely arguing that evolutionary theory doesn't rule the possibility out? The first would be a lot more interesting than the second.

The paleo diet means so many things to so many different people: there is the Cordain version, the Neanderthin version, the Sisson version, the Jaminet version, the low-carb version, and so on. Some versions exclude dairy, some don't. Some exclude all grains, some don't. Some exclude legumes, some don't.

So I sympathize with Zuk if it seems like she's aiming at a moving target. At the same time, though, whenever I read an excerpt or article by her, I can't really tell what she's trying to aim at. It seems like she's aiming at the theoretical underpinnings of the diet rather than at its practical advice; but the theoretical underpinnings she's taking aim at appear in many cases to be straw men. She criticizes the assumption, for example, "that we evolved until we reached a particular point and now are unlikely to change for the rest of history." But who believes that?

I guess I need to read the book to find out if she's got anything to add to the discussion about which specific foods (or general categories of foods) we're well adapted to, which ones we aren't, and which are a matter of individual variation.

Not quoting this post for any reason in particular.

It was right here in May 2013 I decided to go full time primal. I took the 80/20, but for much of the time it was more like 90/10 following of the protocols that Mark Sisson calls out.

In 2 years I gained 20 pounds of lean mass and dropped 4 pounds of fat for a total gain of 16 pounds.

I feel great and look good too. I'm completely hooked on this approach for lean gain method and for fat loss.

culdeus - interested in what you're eating in your 10/20 percent non-paleo - is it essentially whatever you want?

Also, I've always been more concerned about the weigh aspect - I've never gotten to the point of using this diet for maintenance - do you ever plan to increase your ratio to 70/30 or 60/40? I love the way that I'm eating but I'm torn on where I am with the ratios - I'd like to think I'm at 80/20 but I still use regular salad dressing and things like that. I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I put booze and other junk in that category. The occasional pizza or dessert. Etc.

 

[Chaka]

I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I will catch flack for this statement but if losing weight is really your main goal for now I would consider reducing your calories and to stop running (or going to the gym) and look into non-exercise activity thermogenesis (NEAT) to increase your metabolic burn rate. I support working out for many reasons (big fan) but I am no longer convinced that it should be applied to weight loss.

I know I could just Google it, but for the benefit of everyone, can you tell us more about NEAT?

It's pretty much your daily activity level not related to eating and elective exercise. Walking from A to B, doing dishes, cooking, cleaning, yard work etc. It's your everyday lifestyle activity.

 

[culdeus]

Also, I've always been more concerned about the weigh aspect - I've never gotten to the point of using this diet for maintenance - do you ever plan to increase your ratio to 70/30 or 60/40? I love the way that I'm eating but I'm torn on where I am with the ratios - I'd like to think I'm at 80/20 but I still use regular salad dressing and things like that. I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I have no idea what maintenance looks like. Maintenance may look like more beer. I enjoy basic whole foods too much now. I might add back rice in some quantity.

 

[culdeus]

I've mentioned this before - have you ever tried or considered Russian Kettlebell training?

I find I enjoy it much more than weight lifting, and also with far better results.

I've heard of it - never tried it and don't have access (today) to the kettlebells. Honestly, never considered it - I'm willing to try it though. Why do you enjoy it more than lifting?

It's a more dynamic form of resistance training. It works the whole body rather than just specific body parts.

It also gives you more bang for the buck in two other ways:

1. You get strength, cardio and flexibility training all at once.

2. It's a high intensity form of training, so you can get your work done in a half-hour or less.

One caveat: form and safety are paramount. If you decide to try it, make sure you get some individual or group training by an RKC-certified trainer.

I worked with one for over a year, then invested in a few bells of my own.

Not that I disagree, but what benefits does this have over body weight plyo training? I do some KB stuff but none of it all that crazy.

 

[Jack White]

I've mentioned this before - have you ever tried or considered Russian Kettlebell training?

I find I enjoy it much more than weight lifting, and also with far better results.

I've heard of it - never tried it and don't have access (today) to the kettlebells. Honestly, never considered it - I'm willing to try it though. Why do you enjoy it more than lifting?

It's a more dynamic form of resistance training. It works the whole body rather than just specific body parts.

It also gives you more bang for the buck in two other ways:

1. You get strength, cardio and flexibility training all at once.

2. It's a high intensity form of training, so you can get your work done in a half-hour or less.

One caveat: form and safety are paramount. If you decide to try it, make sure you get some individual or group training by an RKC-certified trainer.

I worked with one for over a year, then invested in a few bells of my own.

Not that I disagree, but what benefits does this have over body weight plyo training? I do some KB stuff but none of it all that crazy.

The trainer I worked with included some body weight stuff.

I don't know, there's just something about Russian Kettlebell training that is unique.

Click here for more info from the original master, Pavel.

 

[Harry Manback]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

 

[Chaka]

Also, I've always been more concerned about the weigh aspect - I've never gotten to the point of using this diet for maintenance - do you ever plan to increase your ratio to 70/30 or 60/40? I love the way that I'm eating but I'm torn on where I am with the ratios - I'd like to think I'm at 80/20 but I still use regular salad dressing and things like that. I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I have no idea what maintenance looks like. Maintenance may look like more beer. I enjoy basic whole foods too much now. I might add back rice in some quantity.

It's funny but I have been doing this whole Paleo/Primal (whatever) thing for so long that I really don't think about eating any other way. For example when you said rice the first think I thought of was cauliflower.

Ahhhhh...cauliflower, is there anything you can't do?

 

[Jack White]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

I've said more than once it's not for everyone.

What can I say? I tried it. I got a lot of benefits out of it.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[Jack White]

Also, I've always been more concerned about the weigh aspect - I've never gotten to the point of using this diet for maintenance - do you ever plan to increase your ratio to 70/30 or 60/40? I love the way that I'm eating but I'm torn on where I am with the ratios - I'd like to think I'm at 80/20 but I still use regular salad dressing and things like that. I know I'm losing mainly because I had a lot to lose - will making those additional Paleo changes make a weight loss difference or is that more just "healthier" for you? I'm still prone to err on the side of eating a salad with whatever dressing I want and then walking/running an extra couple miles.

I have no idea what maintenance looks like. Maintenance may look like more beer. I enjoy basic whole foods too much now. I might add back rice in some quantity.

It's funny but I have been doing this whole Paleo/Primal (whatever) thing for so long that I really don't think about eating any other way. For example when you said rice the first think I thought of was cauliflower.

Ahhhhh...cauliflower, is there anything you can't do?

Loves me some cauliflower!

Favorite way is roasted with olive oil, garlic, salt, pepper and herbs.

 

[Harry Manback]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

I've said more than once it's not for everyone.

What can I say? I tried it. I got a lot of benefits out of it.

Your mileage may vary.

I wouldn't say hilarious, funny is adequate.

I've tried it too, I like it. I model a lot of meals after it.

I also consume lots of cheese and bread and booze.

Just an observation. I'm not insulting your family or religion (I don't think at least )

 

[Chaka]

It's funny but I have been doing this whole Paleo/Primal (whatever) thing for so long that I really don't think about eating any other way. For example when you said rice the first think I thought of was cauliflower.

Ahhhhh...cauliflower, is there anything you can't do?

Loves me some cauliflower!

Favorite way is roasted with olive oil, garlic, salt, pepper and herbs.

Roasted head of cauliflower is awesome, more so because the prep is quick and easy.

But if you don't mind a little prep this may be my favorite cauliflower recipe Jalapeno Parmesan Cauliflower Muffins

The recipe calls for cheddar but #### that! I ditch the cheddar and use equal parts shredded mozzarella (part-skim) and shredded Parmesan. Just ridiculously delicious.

 

[Jack White]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

I've said more than once it's not for everyone.

What can I say? I tried it. I got a lot of benefits out of it.

Your mileage may vary.

I wouldn't say hilarious, funny is adequate.

I've tried it too, I like it. I model a lot of meals after it.

I also consume lots of cheese and bread and booze.

Just an observation. I'm not insulting your family or religion (I don't think at least )

I also eat cheese.

And I drink. Beer is the main exception to a mostly gluten-free diet.

 

[Jack White]

It's funny but I have been doing this whole Paleo/Primal (whatever) thing for so long that I really don't think about eating any other way. For example when you said rice the first think I thought of was cauliflower.

Ahhhhh...cauliflower, is there anything you can't do?

Loves me some cauliflower!

Favorite way is roasted with olive oil, garlic, salt, pepper and herbs.

Roasted head of cauliflower is awesome, more so because the prep is quick and easy.

But if you don't mind a little prep this may be my favorite cauliflower recipe Jalapeno Parmesan Cauliflower Muffins

The recipe calls for cheddar but #### that! I ditch the cheddar and use equal parts shredded mozzarella (part-skim) and shredded Parmesan. Just ridiculously delicious.

The recipe looks great. Can't wait to try it.

Thanks!

 

[Chaka]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

I've said more than once it's not for everyone.

What can I say? I tried it. I got a lot of benefits out of it.

Your mileage may vary.

I wouldn't say hilarious, funny is adequate.

I've tried it too, I like it. I model a lot of meals after it.

I also consume lots of cheese and bread and booze.

Just an observation. I'm not insulting your family or religion (I don't think at least )

I also eat cheese.

And I drink. Beer is the main exception to a mostly gluten-free diet.

Wine is gluten free...so is tequila.

 

[Jack White]

I've been doing Primal for the last two months. The more I read, the more it makes sense as how we all should be eating. Unfortunately, we can't all eat like this. The world can't support 7 billion people eating a primarily animal fat with occasional green leafy vegetables and carbs from berries.

But I can tell you that I have never felt better than I have in the two months on this diet. Sleeping better, more energy, my head is clear, I haven't been sick. Evolution has not yet caught up with traditional diet.

This is a great book and has sort of become my bible.

Eat Bacon Don't Jog

it's mostly based on Primal Blueprint, but is more economic with words. Mark Cisson tends to repeat alot of the same material. There's only so much to be said about Primal. It's pretty damn simple. Eat when you're hungry, not when you're supposed to. Lift heavy things, Sprint and move frequently at a slow pace.

Are we sure that if we stopped feeding animals corn that we'd run out of available land? We take those corn fields and turn them into vegetable crops instead and feed our animals grass we might just be sustainable.

I don't think we could produce enough animal fats to sustain 7 billion people on a primal diet. But I'm hardly qualified to know that for sure.

There's no way, currently, to prevent massive starvation without a large proportion of the world's calories consumed by humans coming from grains.

This might be true (I don't know either way).

But the paleo/primal lifestyle is not for everyone.

Take the USA. A large percentage don't care about what they eat. Another considerable chunk continues to be brainwashed by the USG's food pyramid, advertising, etc.

Comparatively few people are concerned and proactive enough to seek -- then actually implement -- alternatives.

That just leaves more for those of us who are in that select group.

Funny you mention brainwashing in a thread about the Paleo diet.

Yeah, it's hilarious.

I've said more than once it's not for everyone.

What can I say? I tried it. I got a lot of benefits out of it.

Your mileage may vary.

I wouldn't say hilarious, funny is adequate.

I've tried it too, I like it. I model a lot of meals after it.

I also consume lots of cheese and bread and booze.

Just an observation. I'm not insulting your family or religion (I don't think at least )

I also eat cheese.

And I drink. Beer is the main exception to a mostly gluten-free diet.

Wine is gluten free...so is tequila.

I drink those, too (I have a couple drinks almost every day).

When I first went primal, I drank Robb Wolf's Norcal margaritas exclusively for awhile.

But beer is still my favorite, and I'm not inclined to give it up.

 

[AAABatteries]

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

So, I decided to try this - found one that I kind of like - can you suggest any that may be better or better for you?

http://elanaspantry.com/honey-mustard-dressing/

 

[Ned]

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

So, I decided to try this - found one that I kind of like - can you suggest any that may be better or better for you?

http://elanaspantry.com/honey-mustard-dressing/

I'm gonna have to try this one.

 

[Jack White]

@AAA:

Are you using commercial salad dressings?

If so, it's almost always soybean oil, which is definitely not healthy.

It's fairly easy to whip up a quick homemade dressing with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, an egg yolk, a little dijon mustard and maybe some salt and herbs.

So, I decided to try this - found one that I kind of like - can you suggest any that may be better or better for you?

http://elanaspantry.com/honey-mustard-dressing/

Sounds pretty good, though I don't sweeten mine.

Don't really have any recipes; I like to experiment with different combos of oils, vinegars and other ingredients.

I love adding an egg yolk to mine. Gives it extra richness and body.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I found a really great webpage a while back that explained how to make up your own salad dressing recipes.

I can't find it now.

It was somewhat like this, and a bit like this, but I remember it being even more complete. (And I remember it having a brown background, so I don't think it was either of those two.)

I'll update if I run across it again.

(Of course, salad dressing isn't paleo. Just eat raw, dry leaves, plain.)

 

[Jack White]

I found a really great webpage a while back that explained how to make up your own salad dressing recipes.

I can't find it now.

It was somewhat like this, and a bit like this, but I remember it being even more complete. (And I remember it having a brown background, so I don't think it was either of those two.)

I'll update if I run across it again.

(Of course, salad dressing isn't paleo. Just eat raw, dry leaves, plain.)

I think you might be kidding about that.

 

[Statcruncher]

I use commercial salad dressings because IMO it's just not worth the time or energy to make my own. I only use them on salads and typically use only 1 ounce per salad. I understand that ideally I would make my own and eliminate the processed stuff from my diet, but in the big picture I'm not going to worry about consuming 4-5 ounces of it per week.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I was raised by a traditional Italian mom. Vinegar and oil were always on the table as our salad dressing. Squeeze of lemon and good olive oil is nice. Or lime juice and avocado pureed with some greek yogurt if you like creamy dressings. Or puree a peeled tomato with some red wine vinegar, little garlic onion herb. Homemade dressings are easy and take two minutes. The house favorite here is made with almond butter, tamari, ginger, greek yogurt, some spices.

I've become a big fan of salad in a jar. I'll make as many as a dozen 32 ouncers when I get home from grocery shopping, vacuum seal the lids and they are good for over a week. Although we go through two a day on average.

 

[Gator Shawn]

I use commercial salad dressings because IMO it's just not worth the time or energy to make my own. I only use them on salads and typically use only 1 ounce per salad. I understand that ideally I would make my own and eliminate the processed stuff from my diet, but in the big picture I'm not going to worry about consuming 4-5 ounces of it per week.

I've started to buy the refrigerated stuff in the produce section that isn't made with soybean oil, but with Yogurt. It's not as good, and it's 2-3x the price but it's not loaded with bull####.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I've become a big fan of salad in a jar. I'll make as many as a dozen 32 ouncers when I get home from grocery shopping, vacuum seal the lids and they are good for over a week. Although we go through two a day on average.

Looks like a good idea, and doing a bunch of them at a time would make it easier. I may try that.

 

[Statcruncher]

Also, the whole appeal (at least to me) behind mason jar salads is that you can store the salad dressing in the same container. Therefore you don’t have to worry about remembering to bring dressing with you.

I shake the salads then dump into another bowl I bring with me. When I first started to eat these I tried eating them from the jar but it was just a little to akward for me. I prefer putting into a bowl.

So she makes salad in a jar because she doesn't want to deal with carrying around dressing, but then carries along another bowl to put the salad in a jar into to eat. lolz

Each weekend I prepare all my salads/meals for the week and store them in pyrex containers with silicone lids. Unless you drench the salads with dressing or are a supertaster they will last 4-5 days with no problem. For lunch today I had a spinach salad with diced hard boiled eggs, bacon, cheese, bell peppers, and ranch dressing that I prepared 5 days ago.

 

[AAABatteries]

I've become a big fan of salad in a jar. I'll make as many as a dozen 32 ouncers when I get home from grocery shopping, vacuum seal the lids and they are good for over a week. Although we go through two a day on average.

Looks like a good idea, and doing a bunch of them at a time would make it easier. I may try that.

I really like this idea. I get what Statcruncher is saying but I found difficulity finding space in my fridge and I'm not sure my Tupperware will keep it as fresh.

Also @Statcruncher - I was just like you on the whole salad dressing topic at first but I found that as I ate more Paleo I ate more salads which meant I was eating even more dressing than before. I was losing weight but knew I needed to change the dressing at some point. I didn't want to make a bunch of changes all at once but I've done really well with this and want to make another small change. Sounds like in the long run I'll save money and eat even better with minimal time spent - especially if I convince my wife to do all of it

 

[Ned]

I've become a big fan of salad in a jar. I'll make as many as a dozen 32 ouncers when I get home from grocery shopping, vacuum seal the lids and they are good for over a week. Although we go through two a day on average.

Looks like a good idea, and doing a bunch of them at a time would make it easier. I may try that.

I really like this idea. I get what Statcruncher is saying but I found difficulity finding space in my fridge and I'm not sure my Tupperware will keep it as fresh.

Also @Statcruncher - I was just like you on the whole salad dressing topic at first but I found that as I ate more Paleo I ate more salads which meant I was eating even more dressing than before. I was losing weight but knew I needed to change the dressing at some point. I didn't want to make a bunch of changes all at once but I've done really well with this and want to make another small change. Sounds like in the long run I'll save money and eat even better with minimal time spent - especially if I convince my wife to do all of it

You're kicking ###, GB.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I've become a big fan of salad in a jar. I'll make as many as a dozen 32 ouncers when I get home from grocery shopping, vacuum seal the lids and they are good for over a week. Although we go through two a day on average.

Looks like a good idea, and doing a bunch of them at a time would make it easier. I may try that.

Since the person in that tutorial isn't vacuum sealing then what Statcruncher is doing with the glass and silicon lids is better just for the more convenient container. I have a bunch of both. I have compared them side by side with the same ingredients in the same fridge. The pyrex system keeps food as well as the mason jars if the jar lids are just screwed on. Once the lids are vacuum sealed the difference makes the jars worth it to me. After three days the difference is pretty strong. After a week the pyrex food gets tossed, but the sealed mason jars can go another week. This isn't just for salads. I currently have pinto beans, chicken stock, chunks of a chuck roast, and some shrimp sealed in mason jars, along with a bunch of fruit and salad.

If someone bought me the fancy electric vacuum pump, I would not use it, ever. Get a manual pump for 5 bucks and the sealer for wide mouth jars for ten more. They're not just a fifth the price of electric systems they are way faster and easier to store. I can vacuum seal a jar every five seconds and that's just doing it normal, not racing. I hardly notice it any more. A dozen 16 oz jars or 6 32 oz jars are 8 bucks in WalMart, $10 in most groceries. Every lid fits every jar. And all those lids take up very little space in one plastic bowl in my pantry with the pump and sealer. So even adding the vacuum sealing set up this is way cheaper than glass and silicone.

Speaking of my pantry, I currently have walnuts, almonds, oats, pork rinds, sprouted flour, masa, rice, a variety of spices, and dried peppers all vacuum sealed in mason jars. Some are half gallon jars.

I seal up fruit smoothie ingredients in mason jars mostly for my kid. She'll come home from school grab a jar of orange, kiwi and pineapple slices; open it and drop in some frozen banana chunks and/or strawberries from the freezer, attach the blender blade directly to the mason jar, turn it on, and drink from the jar. So simple and very little mess. (Oster blender and regular mouth jar required)

eta, I also like the organized way those jars neatly fill my dishwasher.

eta2, the mason jar blender tip is also how I make most salad dressings. So fast. Then I just pour it into a bunch of jars and start building a weeks worth of salads.

 

[Jack White]

Mark Sisson with 10 Primal Foods You Aren't Eating Enough Of.

Review for some, but always good to be reminded.