Paleo / Primal Blueprint type diets (1 Viewer)

[Rick James]

i've heard minced chicken livers are the super hidden secret ingredient to an excellent bolognese sauce. I might try using them next time.

 

[Chaka]

i've heard minced chicken livers are the super hidden secret ingredient to an excellent bolognese sauce. I might try using them next time.

Soak them in milk for about an hour beforehand.

 

[AAABatteries]

Think I have my wife on board for adopting a Paleo eating style. Wish me luck.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Some recent research:

Meta-analysis: Paleo diet is good for people with metabolic syndrome.

Clinical intervention trial: Paleo diet is good for people with type 2 diabetes.

Meta-analysis: Dietary cholesterol intake not associated with cardiovascular disease risk.

Meta-analysis: Saturated fat intake not associated with cardiovascular disease risk.

Clinical intervention trial: Calorie for calorie, low-fat is better than low-carb for fat loss in obese subjects.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

been doing keto for a few months with great results.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

been doing keto for a few months with great results.

Here's one more for you: long-term ketogenic diet doesn't reduce lifespan in mice.

 

[Harry Manback]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

for me:

pork rinds

cheese

cold cuts

almonds

macadamias

avocados

hard boiled eggs

beef jerky

 

[culdeus]

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

I'm a little surprised he never mentioned that 150g of carbs is hardly what most LCHF guys would call low. I for the most part would consider 150 to be nearly a cheat day for a LC person.

And the low fat group basically ate no fat at all. That would be damn near impossible for a person to sustain. You'd have to exist on a diet of BSCB, 95% ground, and rice and veggies.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

for me:

pork rinds

cheese

cold cuts

almonds

macadamias

avocados

hard boiled eggs

beef jerky

fruit, yogurt

carrots, celery, yogurt dip

dark chocolate

tequila

 

[Chaos Commish]

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

I'm a little surprised he never mentioned that 150g of carbs is hardly what most LCHF guys would call low. I for the most part would consider 150 to be nearly a cheat day for a LC person.

And the low fat group basically ate no fat at all. That would be damn near impossible for a person to sustain. You'd have to exist on a diet of BSCB, 95% ground, and rice and veggies.

He went on and on about the extreme nature of the fat cut vs the carb cut. I think the point was made. The very first comment addressed what I was thinking as soon as I read it was a six day study. It takes a few days to convert from the Krebs cycle to using ketones and fat, but after considering this was 150g per day, I wonder if the low-ish carbers were sniffing ketosis. Likely not. It seems like both an interesting and flawed study. What else is new. If Guyenet likes their rigor and modeling, I'm sure not going to question it much.

Paleo doesn't have to be high fat. Cordain founded the thinking on lean eating.

Paleo doesn't have to be low carb. Lots of carby tubers and veggies, even quinoa, are carby.

 

[culdeus]

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

I'm a little surprised he never mentioned that 150g of carbs is hardly what most LCHF guys would call low. I for the most part would consider 150 to be nearly a cheat day for a LC person.

And the low fat group basically ate no fat at all. That would be damn near impossible for a person to sustain. You'd have to exist on a diet of BSCB, 95% ground, and rice and veggies.

He went on and on about the extreme nature of the fat cut vs the carb cut. I think the point was made. The very first comment addressed what I was thinking as soon as I read it was a six day study. It takes a few days to convert from the Krebs cycle to using ketones and fat, but after considering this was 150g per day, I wonder if the low-ish carbers were sniffing ketosis. Likely not. It seems like both an interesting and flawed study. What else is new. If Guyenet likes their rigor and modeling, I'm sure not going to question it much.

Paleo doesn't have to be high fat. Cordain founded the thinking on lean eating.

Paleo doesn't have to be low carb. Lots of carby tubers and veggies, even quinoa, are carby.

Well, I don't think many people wanted to see another hit piece on the insulin theory. There are enough of those out there. I mean if you want to test low carb test it. Don't half ### it like this to promote an agenda, which I figure is what was going on.

And, yes I understand that paleo doesn't mean low carb or even keto. Yet, somehow they get lumped together.

 

[cosjobs]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

for me:

pork rinds

cheese

cold cuts

almonds

macadamias

avocados

hard boiled eggs

beef jerky

Maybe add salads to that. I don't want some of the above by themselves for they're appealing on a salad.

For creamy dressings, I make my own mayo using avocado oil, then use half that and half full fat buttermilk as a base for many great dressings.

Bone broth soup- made from beef ribs other bones and clean out the produice section with all the different kinds of greens and vegetables you can find. THe greater the variety, the more likely you'll get whatever nutrients you need.

Chicken liver mousse with celery or daikon slices

kimchi

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

for me:

pork rinds

cheese

cold cuts

almonds

macadamias

avocados

hard boiled eggs

beef jerky

Maybe add salads to that. I don't want some of the above by themselves for they're appealing on a salad.

For creamy dressings, I make my own mayo using avocado oil, then use half that and half full fat buttermilk as a base for many great dressings.

Bone broth soup- made from beef ribs other bones and clean out the produice section with all the different kinds of greens and vegetables you can find. THe greater the variety, the more likely you'll get whatever nutrients you need.

Chicken liver mousse with celery or daikon slices

kimchi

can you share those recipes? Sounds tasty.

 

[cosjobs]

I apologize if this is somewhere obvious, to be truthful I didn't try hard to look, but I am genuinely curious what some good snack type food would be?

for me:

pork rinds

cheese

cold cuts

almonds

macadamias

avocados

hard boiled eggs

beef jerky

Maybe add salads to that. I don't want some of the above by themselves for they're appealing on a salad.

For creamy dressings, I make my own mayo using avocado oil, then use half that and half full fat buttermilk as a base for many great dressings.

Bone broth soup- made from beef ribs other bones and clean out the produice section with all the different kinds of greens and vegetables you can find. THe greater the variety, the more likely you'll get whatever nutrients you need.

Chicken liver mousse with celery or daikon slices

kimchi

can you share those recipes? Sounds tasty.

beat the egg yols until they change color, then add in a little tabasco and salt, then start streaming in the avo oil, while you're still beating. Its a technique thing and may take a few tries. Look on YouTube or whatever if it give you trouble.

Then mix that half and half with butter mil and add:

For Blue Cheese, add it with black pepper, onion powder and garlic salt

For Green Goddess - Puree some parsley and garlic and add it

Just add a bunch of black pepper

Chipotle pepper and onion

whatever

its all good

 

[Chaos Commish]

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

I'm a little surprised he never mentioned that 150g of carbs is hardly what most LCHF guys would call low. I for the most part would consider 150 to be nearly a cheat day for a LC person.

And the low fat group basically ate no fat at all. That would be damn near impossible for a person to sustain. You'd have to exist on a diet of BSCB, 95% ground, and rice and veggies.

He went on and on about the extreme nature of the fat cut vs the carb cut. I think the point was made. The very first comment addressed what I was thinking as soon as I read it was a six day study. It takes a few days to convert from the Krebs cycle to using ketones and fat, but after considering this was 150g per day, I wonder if the low-ish carbers were sniffing ketosis. Likely not. It seems like both an interesting and flawed study. What else is new. If Guyenet likes their rigor and modeling, I'm sure not going to question it much.

Paleo doesn't have to be high fat. Cordain founded the thinking on lean eating.

Paleo doesn't have to be low carb. Lots of carby tubers and veggies, even quinoa, are carby.

Well, I don't think many people wanted to see another hit piece on the insulin theory. There are enough of those out there. I mean if you want to test low carb test it. Don't half ### it like this to promote an agenda, which I figure is what was going on.

And, yes I understand that paleo doesn't mean low carb or even keto. Yet, somehow they get lumped together.

I wasn't addressing the last two sentences to you. I know you know but we're a minority. That was a paleo service announcement. Agree with your first comments with some some hesitation on the agenda bit, but yeah, most likely the deal.

 

[culdeus]

Mark did a response to the piece today. He had the same thoughts I did for the most part.http://www.marksdailyapple.com/low-fat-versus-low-carb-study-and-plain-ol-olive-oil/#more-56806

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Clinical intervention trial: Calorie for calorie, low-fat is better than low-carb for fat loss in obese subjects.

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

More comments from Guyenet.

 

[culdeus]

Clinical intervention trial: Calorie for calorie, low-fat is better than low-carb for fat loss in obese subjects.

Stephan Guyenet's comments on that last study.

More comments from Guyenet.

How can he keep side stepping the fact that the low fat diet they used is effectively impossible to implement with real foods unless you just eat raw vegetables. And that level of fat is dangerous, especially for men, for the generation of critical hormones that should be noted assists in fat loss.

I mean if anything this sort of proves that juice fasts are in fact, a valid crash diet strategy. Same hypothesis that "fat sick nearly dead" writer and documentary proposed. I don't think that's wrong, but it's not really a long term lifestyle anyone really wants.

I consider that level of carbs a borderline cheat day for me, and it's held up as a LC diet. I'm not sure that a true LC diet would have brought different results after 6 days, but it sure as hell would have at 30.

I think I'd buy this study from the perspective of LF might be better for a crash diet, no keto flu etc. LC is a better long term lifestyle imo.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Some recent research:

Meta-analysis: Paleo diet is good for people with metabolic syndrome.

Here's a pretty persuasive criticism of that paper.

 

[culdeus]

Some recent research:

Meta-analysis: Paleo diet is good for people with metabolic syndrome.

Here's a pretty persuasive criticism of that paper.

Again, another meta analysis posted that attempts to make blanket statements and misses some of the critical points. Paleo, as it was is not just anti-grains/dairy, but sugar too.I would not be shocked to see the lower refined sugar content alone be responsible for the majority of the benefits.

 

[eoMMan]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

 

[Statcruncher]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

I make egg cups as well (egg, bacon, cheese, bell peppers) and they are awesome, but have resigned myself to the fact that they just don't re-heat very well.

 

[Harry Manback]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

This was my issue.

They felt like a damp sponge.

 

[Chaka]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

This was my issue.They felt like a damp sponge.

Try adding some coconut flour and baking sod to the recipe. Might help.

 

[culdeus]

raw spinach has a bunch of water, might be part of the issue

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

I make egg cups as well (egg, bacon, cheese, bell peppers) and they are awesome, but have resigned myself to the fact that they just don't re-heat very well.

When I make these (eggs, grated zucchini, chopped onion, chopped basil, grated cheese), I just don't reheat them. I eat some hot out of the oven, and I eat the leftovers cold out of the refrigerator. They're good cold. (I do try to squeeze all of the moisture out of the grated zucchini with paper towels before adding to the eggs.)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Paleozoic Diet

By Aaron Thier

August 28, 2015

BACKGROUND

The Paleolithic diet is designed to reflect the eating habits of our Stone-Age ancestors, all of whom are presumed to have been hunter-gatherers. But did you know that there are TWO important “Paleos” in the Earth’s history? The Paleolithic is a period in human cultural history that covers from around 2.6 million years ago to the development of agriculture in about 10,000 B.C.E. The Paleozoic, on the other hand, is the first geologic era in the Phanerozoic eon. It covers the period from 542 to 251 million years ago, beginning with Cambrian explosion, during which multicellular life underwent a period of tremendous diversification, and ending with the Permian-Triassic extinction, the worst such event in history, which is thought to have killed up to 96 percent of all marine life.

THE CONCEPT

After careful study, we are pleased to announce a new and more scientifically rigorous Paleo diet, which we call the Paleozoic diet—the true or “Eupaleo” diet. It reflects the eating habits of the synapsid amniotes from which all mammals evolved, and it’s based on two simple ideas:

1. Flowering plants did not exist during the early evolution of the mammalian lineage and we are not adapted to consume them.
2. Forms of life that have existed unchanged or minimally changed since the Paleozoic may be considered the earth’s most successful organisms. By restricting our diets to these plants and animals, we receive the vitamins, enzymes, and phytochemicals that have contributed to their success.

HOW IT WORKS

For ease and convenience, we have chosen to assume that the ancestors of mammals were omnivorous. Some additional liberties have also been taken. Because conifers arose during this era, for example, all conifers are permitted, although most modern taxa were not present. The same goes for reptiles. These compromises are necessary to ensure a diet of sufficient variety and we do not feel they compromise the rigor of our approach.

WHAT YOU CANNOT EAT:

1. Flowering plants, or any food derived from or produced by a flowering plant, including:
— Leafy greens like lettuce, kale, chard, and spinach
— Root vegetables (excluding cycad roots) like potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, beets, and radishes
— Fruits like mangoes, apples, watermelons, raspberries, and coconuts
— Nuts (excluding pine nuts), like walnuts, pecans, and hazelnuts
— Legumes like lentils, chickpeas, peanuts, and black beans
— Cereals like wheat and oats
— Pseudo-cereals like quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat
— Cane sugar, maple syrup, and honey
— Cooking oils like palm oil, corn oil, and olive oil
2. Birds, bird eggs, and bird nests
3. Mammals and mammal-derived products, including: beef, pork, mutton, rabbit, lard, milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir
4. Lobsters, crabs, and shrimp (excluding mantis shrimp)
5. Beer, wine, and liquor, except as noted below

WHAT YOU CAN EAT:

1. Algae like nori, spirulina, Irish moss, and sargasso
2. Fiddlehead ferns
3. Reindeer lichen (Hint: dry and soak, then serve with fish eggs)
4. Meadow horsetail (Hint: use it like asparagus)
5. Mushrooms
6. Conifer products like pine nuts, pine pith, spruce and cedar needles, juniper berries, and fermented drinks made from any of these ingredients (For example: stone pine liqueur. You will need to take care that your stone pine liqueur is made from pine nuts alone and not, like some commercial varieties, from pine nuts in an eau-de-vie base).
7. Cycad roots like coontie
8. Gingko nuts
9. Most invertebrates, including:
— Jellyfish
— Echinoderms and echinoderm products like sea cucumbers, sea urchins, and urchin roe
— Mollusks like nautilus, oysters, and snails
— Most insects and arachnids, including: beetles, cockroaches, dragonflies, and scorpions
— Mantis shrimp
10. Amphibians and amphibian eggs
11. Reptiles and reptile eggs
12. Fish and fish eggs

YOU’LL GET USED TO IT!

Human beings and other mammals have a lot to be proud of. We are descended from synapsid amniotes that arose in the Paleozoic and survived the Permian-Triassic extinction. Modern conveniences and dietary habits, particularly our reliance on flowering plants, have robbed us of the vigor and resourcefulness that enabled our ancestors to surmount so many challenges, but with proper diet and nutrition we can recover our ancient strength and live happier, healthier lives.

A good rule of thumb: if your synapsid great-grandmother wouldn’t have eaten it, you shouldn’t either!

 

[Mister CIA]

Is Guiness extra stout considered paleo? Asking for a friend.

 

[AAABatteries]

The Paleozoic Diet - aka The No Way In ####### Hell I'm Eating That Diet

 

[mr roboto]

 

[John Bender]

I made some egg cups/muffins yesterday which is basically egg, onions, green pepper, raw spinach, salt and pepper. I also use a little bit of Pam spray on the muffin tin.

They are good but they tend to be wet when I go and try to reheat them out of the fridge. Any suggestions? Anyone make these?

This was my issue.

They felt like a damp sponge.

Same...I do a crustless quiche a lot and it's impossible to eat when re-heated.

Going to have to try and just eat it cold from now on.

 

[Peyton Marino]

The Paleozoic Diet

By Aaron Thier

August 28, 2015

BACKGROUND

The Paleolithic diet is designed to reflect the eating habits of our Stone-Age ancestors, all of whom are presumed to have been hunter-gatherers. But did you know that there are TWO important Paleos in the Earths history? The Paleolithic is a period in human cultural history that covers from around 2.6 million years ago to the development of agriculture in about 10,000 B.C.E. The Paleozoic, on the other hand, is the first geologic era in the Phanerozoic eon. It covers the period from 542 to 251 million years ago, beginning with Cambrian explosion, during which multicellular life underwent a period of tremendous diversification, and ending with the Permian-Triassic extinction, the worst such event in history, which is thought to have killed up to 96 percent of all marine life.

THE CONCEPT

After careful study, we are pleased to announce a new and more scientifically rigorous Paleo diet, which we call the Paleozoic dietthe true or Eupaleo diet. It reflects the eating habits of the synapsid amniotes from which all mammals evolved, and its based on two simple ideas:

1. Flowering plants did not exist during the early evolution of the mammalian lineage and we are not adapted to consume them.

2. Forms of life that have existed unchanged or minimally changed since the Paleozoic may be considered the earths most successful organisms. By restricting our diets to these plants and animals, we receive the vitamins, enzymes, and phytochemicals that have contributed to their success.

HOW IT WORKS

For ease and convenience, we have chosen to assume that the ancestors of mammals were omnivorous. Some additional liberties have also been taken. Because conifers arose during this era, for example, all conifers are permitted, although most modern taxa were not present. The same goes for reptiles. These compromises are necessary to ensure a diet of sufficient variety and we do not feel they compromise the rigor of our approach.

WHAT YOU CANNOT EAT:

1. Flowering plants, or any food derived from or produced by a flowering plant, including:

Leafy greens like lettuce, kale, chard, and spinach

Root vegetables (excluding cycad roots) like potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, beets, and radishes

Fruits like mangoes, apples, watermelons, raspberries, and coconuts

Nuts (excluding pine nuts), like walnuts, pecans, and hazelnuts

Legumes like lentils, chickpeas, peanuts, and black beans

Cereals like wheat and oats

Pseudo-cereals like quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat

Cane sugar, maple syrup, and honey

Cooking oils like palm oil, corn oil, and olive oil

2. Birds, bird eggs, and bird nests

3. Mammals and mammal-derived products, including: beef, pork, mutton, rabbit, lard, milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir

4. Lobsters, crabs, and shrimp (excluding mantis shrimp)

5. Beer, wine, and liquor, except as noted below

WHAT YOU CAN EAT:

1. Algae like nori, spirulina, Irish moss, and sargasso

2. Fiddlehead ferns

3. Reindeer lichen (Hint: dry and soak, then serve with fish eggs)

4. Meadow horsetail (Hint: use it like asparagus)

5. Mushrooms

6. Conifer products like pine nuts, pine pith, spruce and cedar needles, juniper berries, and fermented drinks made from any of these ingredients (For example: stone pine liqueur. You will need to take care that your stone pine liqueur is made from pine nuts alone and not, like some commercial varieties, from pine nuts in an eau-de-vie base).

7. Cycad roots like coontie

8. Gingko nuts

9. Most invertebrates, including:

Jellyfish

Echinoderms and echinoderm products like sea cucumbers, sea urchins, and urchin roe

Mollusks like nautilus, oysters, and snails

Most insects and arachnids, including: beetles, cockroaches, dragonflies, and scorpions

Mantis shrimp

10. Amphibians and amphibian eggs

11. Reptiles and reptile eggs

12. Fish and fish eggs

YOULL GET USED TO IT!

Human beings and other mammals have a lot to be proud of. We are descended from synapsid amniotes that arose in the Paleozoic and survived the Permian-Triassic extinction. Modern conveniences and dietary habits, particularly our reliance on flowering plants, have robbed us of the vigor and resourcefulness that enabled our ancestors to surmount so many challenges, but with proper diet and nutrition we can recover our ancient strength and live happier, healthier lives.

A good rule of thumb: if your synapsid great-grandmother wouldnt have eaten it, you shouldnt either!

Da ####?

 

[kevzilla]

Somehow, I'm reminded of a roulette system.

 

[Chaos Commish]

The Paleozoic Diet

By Aaron Thier

August 28, 2015

I ain't your huckleberry anymore.

 

[Chaka]

Good ####### lord Maruile.

Don't. Please, just don't.

 

[Harry Manback]

The Paleozoic Diet

By Aaron Thier

August 28, 2015

BACKGROUND

The Paleolithic diet is designed to reflect the eating habits of our Stone-Age ancestors, all of whom are presumed to have been hunter-gatherers. But did you know that there are TWO important “Paleos” in the Earth’s history? The Paleolithic is a period in human cultural history that covers from around 2.6 million years ago to the development of agriculture in about 10,000 B.C.E. The Paleozoic, on the other hand, is the first geologic era in the Phanerozoic eon. It covers the period from 542 to 251 million years ago, beginning with Cambrian explosion, during which multicellular life underwent a period of tremendous diversification, and ending with the Permian-Triassic extinction, the worst such event in history, which is thought to have killed up to 96 percent of all marine life.

THE CONCEPT

After careful study, we are pleased to announce a new and more scientifically rigorous Paleo diet, which we call the Paleozoic diet—the true or “Eupaleo” diet. It reflects the eating habits of the synapsid amniotes from which all mammals evolved, and it’s based on two simple ideas:

1. Flowering plants did not exist during the early evolution of the mammalian lineage and we are not adapted to consume them.

2. Forms of life that have existed unchanged or minimally changed since the Paleozoic may be considered the earth’s most successful organisms. By restricting our diets to these plants and animals, we receive the vitamins, enzymes, and phytochemicals that have contributed to their success.

HOW IT WORKS

For ease and convenience, we have chosen to assume that the ancestors of mammals were omnivorous. Some additional liberties have also been taken. Because conifers arose during this era, for example, all conifers are permitted, although most modern taxa were not present. The same goes for reptiles. These compromises are necessary to ensure a diet of sufficient variety and we do not feel they compromise the rigor of our approach.

WHAT YOU CANNOT EAT:

1. Flowering plants, or any food derived from or produced by a flowering plant, including:

— Leafy greens like lettuce, kale, chard, and spinach

— Root vegetables (excluding cycad roots) like potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, beets, and radishes

— Fruits like mangoes, apples, watermelons, raspberries, and coconuts

— Nuts (excluding pine nuts), like walnuts, pecans, and hazelnuts

— Legumes like lentils, chickpeas, peanuts, and black beans

— Cereals like wheat and oats

— Pseudo-cereals like quinoa, amaranth, and buckwheat

— Cane sugar, maple syrup, and honey

— Cooking oils like palm oil, corn oil, and olive oil

2. Birds, bird eggs, and bird nests

3. Mammals and mammal-derived products, including: beef, pork, mutton, rabbit, lard, milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir

4. Lobsters, crabs, and shrimp (excluding mantis shrimp)

5. Beer, wine, and liquor, except as noted below

WHAT YOU CAN EAT:

1. Algae like nori, spirulina, Irish moss, and sargasso

2. Fiddlehead ferns

3. Reindeer lichen (Hint: dry and soak, then serve with fish eggs)

4. Meadow horsetail (Hint: use it like asparagus)

5. Mushrooms

6. Conifer products like pine nuts, pine pith, spruce and cedar needles, juniper berries, and fermented drinks made from any of these ingredients (For example: stone pine liqueur. You will need to take care that your stone pine liqueur is made from pine nuts alone and not, like some commercial varieties, from pine nuts in an eau-de-vie base).

7. Cycad roots like coontie

8. Gingko nuts

9. Most invertebrates, including:

— Jellyfish

— Echinoderms and echinoderm products like sea cucumbers, sea urchins, and urchin roe

— Mollusks like nautilus, oysters, and snails

— Most insects and arachnids, including: beetles, cockroaches, dragonflies, and scorpions

— Mantis shrimp

10. Amphibians and amphibian eggs

11. Reptiles and reptile eggs

12. Fish and fish eggs

YOU’LL GET USED TO IT!

Human beings and other mammals have a lot to be proud of. We are descended from synapsid amniotes that arose in the Paleozoic and survived the Permian-Triassic extinction. Modern conveniences and dietary habits, particularly our reliance on flowering plants, have robbed us of the vigor and resourcefulness that enabled our ancestors to surmount so many challenges, but with proper diet and nutrition we can recover our ancient strength and live happier, healthier lives.

A good rule of thumb: if your synapsid great-grandmother wouldn’t have eaten it, you shouldn’t either!

I thought this was serious at first.



Nicely done.

 

[VA703]

what is the best Ghee brand you have used?

ive been using purity farm organic ghee & just ran out. looking at trying a new brand

 

[Chaka]

what is the best Ghee brand you have used?

ive been using purity farm organic ghee & just ran out. looking at trying a new brand

I think purity farm ghee is a solid product and reasonably priced compared to some other options I have seen. Why would you move on from them?

Alternatively you can make your own ghee and it's really easy, here are instructions from Alton Brown.

 

[VA703]

what is the best Ghee brand you have used?

ive been using purity farm organic ghee & just ran out. looking at trying a new brand

I think purity farm ghee is a solid product and reasonably priced compared to some other options I have seen. Why would you move on from them?

Alternatively you can make your own ghee and it's really easy, here are instructions from Alton Brown.

never tried another brand so I wasn't sure how 'good' it was. no complaints really just wanted to test the waters

 

[mr roboto]

re-reading that Paleozoic post.

 

[cosjobs]

what is the best Ghee brand you have used?

ive been using purity farm organic ghee & just ran out. looking at trying a new brand

I think purity farm ghee is a solid product and reasonably priced compared to some other options I have seen. Why would you move on from them?

Alternatively you can make your own ghee and it's really easy, here are instructions from Alton Brown.

never tried another brand so I wasn't sure how 'good' it was. no complaints really just wanted to test the waters

I get the 5# tubs of Plugra at the restaurant supply for about $25

They last a looonnnnggg time and have never had any go bad.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Why the Paleo Movement is Dying

 

[AAABatteries]

Why the Paleo Movement is Dying

I'm not sure I'm persuaded that the Paleo movement is dying just because 1. somebody is trying to make a buck off of it and 2. people aren't searching for it on Google as often.  I'm not saying he's not right but I think he needs more evidence than this.

 

[culdeus]

I'm not sure I'm persuaded that the Paleo movement is dying just because 1. somebody is trying to make a buck off of it and 2. people aren't searching for it on Google as often.  I'm not saying he's not right but I think he needs more evidence than this.

Does it really matter even if it is getting less popular?  

 

[AAABatteries]

Does it really matter even if it is getting less popular?  

Are you asking why it matters if it's getting less popular?  If so, then it doesn't or at least it doesn't to me -  I don't care one way or the other.  I was just responding to the link MT posted.

 

[culdeus]

I think there's likely something to the fact that it's not an easily money converter name like "natural" or "Low Fat".  People continue to get fatter, life goes on.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Why the Paleo Movement is Dying

I'm not sure I'm persuaded that the Paleo movement is dying just because 1. somebody is trying to make a buck off of it and 2. people aren't searching for it on Google as often.  I'm not saying he's not right but I think he needs more evidence than this.

There are a few possible reasons why people might be Googling it less often. Maybe the diet isn't as unfamiliar as it used to be, so people already know what it is without having to Google it. This would be a sign, I suppose, that the diet is becoming more popular rather than less popular. Alternatively, maybe the diet is becoming less popular and fewer people are Googling it because fewer people are interested in it.

I suspect it's probably more the latter.

If that's so, if the diet is becoming less popular, there are likely a number of reasons why.

One of them, I think, is what the author in that link points out. Eric Hoffer once observed: "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." The whole point of paleo, or at least its main benefit, is in eating simple, whole, unprocessed foods. Eat foods from nature, not from laboratories or factories. But it's hard to make any money selling apples or beets to people, so instead we eventually got "paleo" versions of junk foods like snack bars and soda and all the rest. That kind of seems like a racket to me.

Another problem, I think, is that while the movement was started by serious people in a serious effort to discover good nutritional principles, it was eventually overtaken by people more prone to embrace pseudo-science. The first book on the paleo diet (and still probably the best) was by a Ph.D. in biological anthropology (Melvin Konner), another anthropologist who spent numerous years in the field living with and observing hunter-gatherers in Africa (Marjorie Shostak), and a medical doctor (Boyd Eaton). Their book is from 1988, so they don't have the benefit of the last three decades of scientific research, but they nonetheless made way fewer mistakes than most of the paleo-diet authors who followed them.

They wrote, for example, that while cereal grains played only a minor role in hunter-gather diets, typical staples consisted of "roots, beans, nuts, tubers, fruits, flowers, and gums." It was Loren Cordain who introduced the ridiculous idea that tubers (such as potatoes) and legumes (such as beans) should not be eaten. And then, because Cordain's book sold well, all the other paleo gurus uncritically repeated those same errors for far too long. In reality, tubers and legumes are as paleo as any foods can be.

In any case, the paleo movement soon found an ideological ally in the low-carb movement ("Hey, you avoid bread and don't fear dietary cholesterol? Us too! We should totally be BFFs!"), and it opened itself up to embracing all of the low-carb movement's pseudo-science. That was a terrible mistake that the paleo movement is still recovering from, and it wouldn't have happened if consumers in the movement had paid more attention to experts in anthropology than they did to experts in marketing. (I mean, seriously, bulletproof coffee?)

I think the paleo brand may have been damaged enough that the better versions of the movement, which are worth carrying on, should probably go by "ancestral" (as some are doing) rather than "paleo."

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

It's probably going down because of ridiculous sentences like this one in the article:

"It’s sad, because getting back to an evolutionarily normal lifestyle is super important for the future health of humanity."