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Corrected. The Vikings already had the Division wrapped up and were going to battle Dallas for the Superbowl before the first snap of the season. Now they are 0-2 and have changed QB's. I think you are correct in your basic analysis...
They lost by 5 to GB in GB, and lost by a FG to IND last weekend. They're not really overrated.
Yeah. And it's because Childress thought they were so good he decided to change the QB.
SB contenders don't lose those games. Overrated!
After his comment "Your legs are your legs" earlier this week, I checked to see if my legs were my arms.
And were they?
I don't really understand this. I don't think the Panthers have taken any of their wins for granted, and I don't know why they wouldn't play hard against the Vikings. The Vikings are no walk in the park. If the Panthers lose, I don't think it will be because Fox failed to have his players bring their A game. The Panthers better watch their penalties this Sunday. In the first half last week, they kept committing false starts against the Bears. Penalties are a good way to lose a game.
Steve Smith will beat Adrian Peterson to death in a grudge match for the ages in the parking lot amongst the tailgaters. The fury that Smith unleashes will then sweep half of Minnesota into the Atlantic, to never be heard from again. Barack Obama, and John McCain both see the frightening display of power and each try to dump their respective running mates to get Steve Smith on their party ticket. Steve Smith remains unimpressed with either Obama or McCain and decides to run as a third party independent. He calls his party the Pale Horse party, and promises to bring Hell to all his opponents. His platform consists of sending Chuck Norris to destroy Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden, saving the enviroment by threatening to destroy it (thereby intimidating it so badly that it improves and kicks pollution in the balls), ending world hunger, finding a cure for the Herm Edwards virus in Kansas City, solving the illegal immigration crisis, paying off the national debt, making hot dogs and hot dog buns the same size, giving free Sunday Ticket subscriptions to all Fantasy football players for life, and sending Al Davis in to exile.
For me, that falls under failing to bring their A game.
Coming from a Cheesehead.....way to be objective.Truer words have never been spoken.No way does Steve Smith allow them to lose.
Panthers were +9 at San Diego, so they get them wrong quite often.
Obviously, you're not a gambler because you're missing the point. This is about the public being all over ONE side (Vegas goes for a 50/50 split when they set the line and they try to make their money on the vig, juice, etc.)...yet...the line not moving. In this case, the public appears to be all over the Panthers........yet.......the line is not moving. Something stinks about this line/game.
Comparing the opinions in the SP to the "public" is not a logical thing to do.
If I was a gambler, my money would be on the Panthers to cover
Please refer to NYG circa 2007
Carolina is a 3.5 pt underdog. Sportsbetting is a multi million dollar industry, and the books have teams of people working every day to make their lines accurate. Yes they are trying to balance action and not necessarily put out a "true line", but its usually pretty close either way. Saying Carolina is going to lose isn't very bold at all. In fact, saying otherwise would be pretty foolish(not saying that Carolina won't win, but theres no way they're >50% to do so).
Pro Football Prospectus had Minn as a 10 win team and Carolina as a 9.5 win team coming into the year. Minn had a tougher schedule which means that them being .5 wins better actually means they're a significantly better team coming into the year(according to PFP, which is highly respected among the sharp betting community).Minnesota started out the season with 2 games in which they were expected(by Vegas and the great majority of the sharp community) to lose. They lost both by the slimmest of margins- a total of 8 points. Nothing regarding our opinion of Minnesota should've changed based upon that.Carolina was expected to be 1-1 after their first two games. Yes they are 2-0, but they have ran above expectations(i.e. gotten lucky) to do that: +1 TO and 40 less total yards vs Chicago. Nothing significant has caused us to change Carolina from their 9.5 win projection...in fact, I havn't even looked but I'd be shocked if any sportsbook had their season win total line at 10 or higher.So preseason expectations told us that Minnesota was slightly better. The game is at Minnesota....that equates to 3 points for HFA and maybe 0.5 or 1 point for being better. The line opened at 3.5 and is now down to 3, mostly imo due to square money coming in heavily on Carolina. As I said, I don't think the first two weeks should've changed our preseason expectations much.
Disclaimer: Except for the fact that Minnesota has chucked their QB already, and are without one of their top 2 receivers and their OL stalwart McKinnie.
Minnesota's DBs aren't very big talkers. Winfield would rather just hit you and Griffin isn't good enough to have earned the right to talk.
Thanks for the detailed response, and it could turn out to be accurate. However, I don't think the result of this is going to be that predictable necessarily. For starters we've got a new (old) QB for Minny and a star running back with a bad wheel. Delhome playing well, which was something that had to play out and couldn't be predicted by a pre-season publication of some kind. An effective running game and a solid defensive unit thus far with a stud receiver coming back that is itching to hit the field. Other than the fact that Minny is motivated to avoid an 0-3 start, the Panthers seem to have the upper hand. Again, nice post, but I just don't know how accurate it is today.
And Fred Smoot is in Washington.
Why on earth would the Vikings need to stuff the box to stop the run? Perhaps you have seen their DTs?
On the contrary, this will be a great week to start Longwell. :(Vikes know what's at stake here. No way CAR wins this game.
I am not too proud to admit this! I would also like to see Stewart get at least 50 and a touch as my flex starter.I love how FF has changed my outlook on games - it's not whether you win or lose, its how you play the game!
whats he gonna do about energy independence?
