PDSL 4 - Island of Misfit Toys- Teams and Discussion (1 Viewer)

[NoFBinLA]

Yeah that's right - we weren't picked - you know why nobody picked the Charlie in the box or the train with square wheels --

CAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF WHAT THEY MISUNDERSTOOD!!

So we are the unchosen and like the elf who wanted to be a dentist, cast out from the PDSL mainstream!

BOO-HOO!

*ahem* I may have ridden that joke into the ground already...

Anywho......

I remember last year PDSL 3 having a fun thread discussing the picks and teams - I thought we could track teams and discuss the picks here and not clutter the main pick threads up too much.

I will try to update teams 2x a day - one morning, one evening.

Here's the teams as of April 27th

RC94

1.01 : LaDainian Tomlinson, SD, RB1

2.16 Torry Holt, Stl, WR9

3.01 Michael Turner, ATL, RB19

4.16 Greg Jennings, GB, WR21

5.01 Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR22

6.16 Matt Schaub, Hou, QB16

7.01 Aaron Rodgers, GB QB17

8.16 LJ Smith, Phi, TE18

9.01 Jerious Norwood, Atl, RB39

10.16 : Justin Gage, Ten, WR64

11.01 : Chris Henry, Ten, RB46

12.16 : Baltimore Ravens, DEF11

13.01 : Sage Rosenfels, Hou, QB35

14.16 : Leonard Pope, Ari, TE29

15.01 : Mewelde Moore, Pit, RB64

16.16 : Ike Hilliard, TB, WR81

17.01 : New York Jets, DEF26

18.16 : Jason Elam, Atl, K27

19.01 : Jay Feely, Mia, K28

20.16 : 20.16 - Drew Stanton - QB - DET

awesomeness

1.02 : Brian Westbrook, Phi, RB2

2.15 Marques Colston, NO, WR8

3.02 Kellen Winslow III, CLE, TE3

4.15 Roddy White, ATL, WR20

5.02 Matt Hasslebeck, Sea, QB8

6.15 Vincent Jackson, SD, WR38

7.02 Chris Brown, HOU RB34

8.15 Bryant Johnson, SF, WR46

9.02 Ben Watson, NE, TE19

10.15 : San Diego Chargers, DEF1

11.02 : Shaun Hill, SF, QB32

12.15 : Brandon Jackson, GB, RB54

13.02 : Fred Jackson, Buf, RB55

14.15 : Leon Washington, NYJ, RB63

15.02 : Devin Thomas®, n/a, WR73

16.15 : Shayne Graham, Cin, K9

17.02 : Devard Darling, KC, WR82

18.15 : Detroit Lions, DEF28

19.02 : Josh Reed, Buf, WR89

20.15 : 20.15 - Todd Collins QB WAS

Beachbum

1.03 : Adrian Peterson, Min, RB3

2.14Jason Witten, Dal, TE2

3.03 T.J. Houshmanzadeh, CIN, WR10

4.14 Derek Anderson, Cle, QB7

5.03 Hines Ward, Pit, WR23

6.14 Rudi Johnson, Cin, RB33

7.03 Kurt Warner, ARI QB18

8.14 Arnaz Battle, SF, WR45

9.03 Kenny Watson, Cin, RB40

10.14 : Brandon Stokley, Den, WR63

11.03 : Gus Frerotte, Min, QB33

12.14 : Green Bay Packers, DEF10

13.03 : Oakland Raiders, DEF12

14.14 : Jeb Putzier, Sea, TE28

15.03 : Nate Washington, Pit, WR74

16.14 : Phil Dawson, Cle, K8

17.03 : Jacoby Jones, Hou, WR83

18.14 : Joe Nedney, SF, K26

19.03 : Najeh Davenport, Pit, RB73

20.14 : 20.14 Correll Buckhalter, RB, Phi

IndyHavoc

1.04 : Joseph Addai, Ind, RB4

2.13 Antonio Gates, SD, TE

3.04 Brandon "EEEEE my arm!" Marshall, Den, WR11

4.13 Jonathan Stewart ®, n/a, RB29

5.04 Jay Cutler, Den, QB9

6.13Bernard Berrian, Min, WR37

7.04 Vince Young, TN QB19

8.13 Greg Olson, Chi, TE17

9.04 Nate Burleson, Sea, WR47

10.13 : Limas Sweed®, n/a, WR62

11.04 : Deuce McAllister, NO, RB47

12.13 : Pierre Thomas, NO, RB53

13.04 : Jamaal Charles®, n/a, RB56

14.13 : Denver Broncos, DEF20

15.04 : Antwaan Randal El, Was, WR75

16.13 : *Kris Brown, Hou, K10

17.04 : Kenton Keith, Ind, RB70

18.13 : New Orleans Saints, DEF27

19.04 : Rian Lindell, Buf, K29

20.13 : Brandon Jones, Ten, WR103

smackit

1.05 : Stephen Jackson, SL, RB5

2.12Braylon Edwards, CLE, WR7

3.05 Drew Brees, NO, QB4

4.12 Fred Taylor, Jax, RB28

5.05 Laverneus Coles, NYJ, WR24

6.12 Anthony Gonzalez, Ind, WR36

7.05 Tony Scheffler, DEN TE10

8.12 Mercedes Lewis, Jax, TE16

9.05 Alex Smith, SF, QB27

10.12 : Jabar Gaffney, NE, WR61

11.05 : Lorenzo Booker, Mia, RB48

12.12 : New York Giants, DEF9

13.05 : Cleveland Browns, DEF13

14.12 : Josh McCown, Mia, QB38

15.05 : Adrian Peterson, Chi, RB65

16.12 : Nate Keading, SD, K7

17.05 : Ryan Longwell, GB, K11

18.12 : Dennis Northcut, Jax, WR88

19.05 : Derek Hagan, Mia, WR90

20.12 : Ben Obamanu, Sea, WR102

Fallerjw

1.06 : Frank Gore, SF, RB6

2.11 Steve Smith CAR, WR6

3.06 Chad Johnson, CIN, WR12

4.11 Rashaad Mendenhall ®, n/a, RB27

5.06 Calvin Johnson, Det, WR25

6.11 Chester Taylor, Min, RB32

7.06 Owen Daniels, HOU TE11

8.11 Travaris Jackson, Min, QB26

9.06 Kellen Clemens, NYJ, QB28

10.11 : Bradie Quinn, Cle, QB31

11.06 : Randy McMichael, Stl, TE20

12.11 : James Jones, GB, WR68

13.06 : Tennessee Titans, DEF14

14.11 : Robert Meacham, NO, WR72

15.06 : Chris Perry, Cin, RB66

16.11 : Carolina Panthers, DEF25

17.06 : Josh Scobee, Jax, K12

18.11 : Martin Gramatica, NO, K25

19.06 : Mario Manningham®, n/a, WR91

20.11 : Mike Hart®, n/a, RB75

Streetduck

1.07 : Larry Johnson, KC, RB7

2.10 Laurence Maroney NE RB18

3.07 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT, QB5

4.10 Santonio Holmes, Pit, WR19

5.07 Chris Chambers, SD, WR26

6.10 Jerry Porter, JAX, WR35

7.07 Heath Miller, PIT TE12

8.10 Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB37

9.07 Tatum Bell, Det, RB41

10.10 : Brodie Croyle, KC, QB30

11.07 : New England Patriots, DEF2

12.10 : Ernest Wilford, Mia, WR67

13.07 : Keary Colbert, Den, WR69

14.10 : Jeff King, Car, TE27

15.07 : Stephen Gostkowski, NE, K3

16.10 : Kevin Smith®, n/a, RB69

17.07 : Joe Jurevicius, Cle, WR84

18.10 : Chad Pennington, NYJ, QB41

19.07 : St. Louis Rams, DEF29

20.10 : Matt Prater, Den, K31

NoFBinLA

1.08 : Marion Barber III, Dal, RB8

2.09 Terrell Owens, Dal, WR5

3.08 Brandon Jacobs, NYG, RB20

4.09 Lee Evans, Buf, WR18

5.08 Julius Jones SEA RB

6.09 Phillip Rivers, SD, QB15

7.08: Zach Miller, OAK TE13

8.09 Trent Edwards Buf QB 24

9.08 David Patten, NO, WR48

10.09 : Amani Toomer, NYG, WR60

11.08 : Kevin Boss, NYG, TE21

12.09 : Pittsburgh Steelers, DEF8

13.08 : Ladell Betts, Was, RB57

14.09 : Chris Johnson®, n/a, RB62

15.08 : Mike Walker, Jax, WR76

16.09 : Rob Bironas, Ten, K6

17.08 : Brad Smith, NYJ, WR85

18.09 : John Kasway, Car, K24

19.08 : Cincinnati Bengals, DEF30

20.09 : Jeff Webb, KC, WR101

Qazqaz11

1.09 : Marshawn Lynch, Buf, RB9

2.08 Larry Fitzgerald, Ari, WR4

3.09 Tony Gonzalez, KC, TE4

4.08 Thomas Jones, NYJ, RB26

5.09 David Garrard, Jax, QB10

6.08 Jake Delhomme, CAR, QB14

7.09 Reggie Brown, PHI WR39

8.08 Reggie Willaims, JAX WR 43

9.09 Felix Jones®, n/a, RB42

10.08 : Shaun McDonald, Det, WR59

11.09 : Ben Utecht, Cin, TE22

12.08 : Mushin Muhammad, Car, WR66

13.09 : Tampa Bay Buccs, DEF15

14.08 : Sammie Morris, NE, RB61

15.09 : Mike Jenkins, Atl, WR77

16.08 : Buffalo Bills, DEF24

17.09 : Mike Nugent, NYJ, K13

18.08 : Lawrence Tynes, NYG, K23

19.09 : Bobby Wade, Min, WR92

20.08 : Antonio Bryant, TB, WR100

Getinthemix

1.10 : Clinton Portis, Was, RB10

2.07 Andre Johnson, Hou, WR3

3.10 Chris Cooley, Was, TE5

4.07 DeAngelo Williams, Car, RB25

5.10 Donovan McNabb, Phi, QB11

6.07 Javon Walker, OAK, WR34

7.10 Cedric Benson, CHI RB35

8.07 Jeff Garcia, TB QB24

9.10 Mark Clayton, Bal, WR49

10.07 : Steve Smith, NYG, WR58

11.10 : Alex Smith, TB, TE23

12.07 : Dallas Cowboys, DEF7

13.10 : Kenny Irons, Cin, RB58

14.07 : Houston Texans, DEF19

15.10 : Bo Scaife, Ten, TE30

16.07 : Darell Jackson, FA, WR80

17.10 : Neil Rackers, Ari, K14

18.07 : Seabass Janikowski, Oak, K22

19.10 : Kyle Boller, Bal, QB42

20.07 : Matt Jones, Jax, WR99

hitmensharpshooters

1.11 : Jamal Lewis, Cle, RB11

2.06 Tony Romo, Dal, QB3

3.11 Anquan Boldin, Ari, WR13

4.06 Lendale White, Ten, RB24

5.11 Bobby Engram, Sea, WR27

6.06 Donald Lee, GB, TE9

7.11 Justin Fargas, OAK RB36

8.06 Donte Stallworth, CLE WR42

9.11 Rex Grossman, Chi, QB29

10.06 : Kevin Walter, Hou, WR57

11.11 : Ahman Green, Hou, RB49

12.06 : Minnesota Vikings, DEF6

13.11 : Nick Folk, Dal, K1

14.06 : Devin Hester, Chi, WR71

15.11 : David Martin, Mia, TE31

16.06 : TJ Duckett, Sea, RB68

17.11 : James Hardy®, n/a, WR86

18.06 : Brian Brohm®, n/a, QB40

19.11 : Olindo Mare, Sea, K30

20.06 : Donnie Avery®, n/a, WR98

the_sig

1.12 : Reggie Bush, NO, RB12

2.05 Reggie Wayne, Ind, WR2

3.12 Wes Welker, NE, WR14

4.05 Ernest Graham, TB, RB23

5.12 Donald Driver, GB, WR28

6.05 Eli Manning, NYG, QB13

7.12 Vernon Davis, SF TE14

8.05 Jason Campbell, WAS QB23

9.12 Isaac Bruce, SF, WR50

10.05 : Ronald Curry, Oak, WR56

11.12 : Kevin Jones, FA, RB50

12.05 : Eric Johnson, NO, TE25

13.12 : Philly Eagles, DEF16

14.05 : Washington Redskins, DEF18

15.12 : Chad Jackson, NE, WR78

16.05 : Josh Brown, Stl, K5

17.12 : Matt Stover, Bal, K16

18.05 : Derrick Ward, NYG, RB72

19.12 : Matt Forte®, n/a, RB74

20.05 : Atlanta Falcons, DEF32

krsone21

1.13 Tom Brady, NE, QB1

2.04 Ronnie Brown, Mia, RB17

3.13 Darren McFadden®, n/a, RB21

4.04 Dallas Clark, Ind, TE7

5.13 Derrick Mason, Bal, WR29

6.04 Joey Galloway, TB, WR32

7.13 Sidney Rice, MN WR40

8.04 JaMarcus Russell, OAK QB22

9.13 Ray Rice®, n/a, RB43

10.04 Mark Bradley, Chi, WR55

11.13 Laurent Robinson, Atl, WR65

12.04 Desmond Clark, Chi, TE24

13.13 Indy Colts, DEF17

14.04 Kolby Smith, KC, RB60

15.13 Kansas City Chiefs, DEF21

16.04 Mason Crosby, GB, K4

17.13 Darren Sproles, SD, RB71

18.04 Shaun Suisham, Was, K21

19.13 DeSean Jackson®, n/a, WR93

20.04 Early Doucet®, n/a, WR97

Kirby

1.14 Peyton Manning, Ind, QB2

2.03 'Fast' Willie Parker, Pit, RB16

3.14 Edge James, Ari, RB22

4.03 Todd Heap, Bal, TE6

5.14 Santana Moss, Was, WR30

6.03 Kevin Curtis, Phi, WR31

7.14 Jon Kitna, DET QB20

8.03 Deion Branch, SEA WR41

9.14 Ted Ginn WR MIA WR51

10.03 Shaun Alexander, Sea, RB45

11.14 Deshaun Foster, SF, RB51

12.03 Seattle Seahawks, DEF5

13.14 Ricky Williams, Mia, RB59

14.03 Marty Booker, Chi, WR70

15.14 Vishanthe Shiancoe, Min, TE32

16.03 John Beck, Mia, QB39

17.14 Robbie Gould, Chi, K16

18.03 Jason Hanson, Det, K20

19.14 San Francisco 49ers, DEF31

20.03 Michael Clayton, TB, WR96

enfuego

1.15 Ryan Grant, GB, RB13

2.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, Jax, RB15

3.15 Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR15

4.02 Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR17

5.15 Marc Bulger, Stl, QB12

6.02 Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR33

7.15 Matt Leinart, ARI QB21

8.02 Alge Crumpler, TEN TE15

9.15 Patrick Crayton DAL WR52

10.02 Roydell Williams, Ten, WR54

11.15 Chris Redman, Atl, QB34

12.02 Jacksonville Jaguars, DEF4

13.15 Matt Ryan®, n/a, QB36

14.02 Chris Baker, NYJ, TE26

15.15 Darius Walker, Hou, RB67

16.02 Miami Dolphins, DEF23

17.15 *Matt Bryant, TB, K18

18.02 Jeff Reed, Pit, K19

19.15 Mike Furrey, Det, WR94

20.02 Lance Moore, NO, WR95

Commuterman

1.16 Willis McGahee, Bal, RB14

2.01 Randy Moss, NE, WR1

3.16 Carson Palmer, Cin, QB6

4.01 Roy Williams, Det, WR16

5.16 Travis Henry, Den, RB31

6.01 Jeremy Shockey, NYG, TE8

7.16 DJ Hackett, Car, WR44

8.01 Selvin Young, Den, RB38

9.16 Drew Bennett, StL WR53

10.01 Michael Bush, Oak RB 44

11.16 Chicago Bears, DEF3

12.01 Warrick Dunn, TB, RB

13.16 Steve McNair, Bal, QB37

14.01 Adam Vinatieri, Ind, K2

15.16 Arizona Cardinals, DEF22

16.01 Malcolm Kelly®, n/a, WR79

17.16 David Akers, Phi, K17

18.01 Demetrius Williams, Bal, WR87

19.16 Troy Smith, Bal, QB43

20.01 Daniel Graham, Den, TE33

Enjoy!

 

[qazqaz11]

When it comes to drafts like this the divisions are going to be determined by captains preferences. Does the captain want his friends,people who draft fast,people he can beat,people who can provide competition etc.....who knows. It's not like in our division we'll be drafting kickers in the 2nd round (I'm personally waiting til the 3rd). Hell, personally I was targeting Ronnie Brown in the 2nd round and while I couldn't get him here, I would have gotten him in PDSL1 and PDSL3 and I'll have to wait several months to find out if that was a good or a bad thing. In the end I have no doubt that our teams will be every bit as competative as PDSL1-3. I look forward to the competition as I think our division will be every bit as competative as the other three.

For those who want to be noticed so that they can play with "the big boys", don't worry.....they're watching.

Let's have some fun.

 

[NoFBinLA]

When it comes to drafts like this the divisions are going to be determined by captains preferences. Does the captain want his friends,people who draft fast,people he can beat,people who can provide competition etc.....who knows. It's not like in our division we'll be drafting kickers in the 2nd round (I'm personally waiting til the 3rd). Hell, personally I was targeting Ronnie Brown in the 2nd round and while I couldn't get him here, I would have gotten him in PDSL1 and PDSL3 and I'll have to wait several months to find out if that was a good or a bad thing. In the end I have no doubt that our teams will be every bit as competative as PDSL1-3. I look forward to the competition as I think our division will be every bit as competative as the other three. For those who want to be noticed so that they can play with "the big boys", don't worry.....they're watching.Let's have some fun.

Oh sure - my post was in the spirit of fun. There was no slight in their picks.I just thought since we were the non-picked group we should roll with it.All in good fun!

 

[qazqaz11]

We'll be like 16 Warren Moons from Edmonton of the CFL....they'll all look back and wonder all they could have all been so wrong.

 

[RaiderBones]

It's fun being a misfit, its so boring being part of the mainstream. By looking at the picks being made so far this is going to be a very competitive league.

 

[BassNBrew]

I've got NoFBinLA off to the early lead. Barber has top 5 potential and TO is always undervalued. Moss absolutely scares me this year. In this format you have to back him up with some solid contributors.

 

[IndyHavoc]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

5.04.. Jay Cutler............QB9......Den.....IndyHavoc

7.04.. Vince Young.........QB19....Ten......IndyHavoc

1.04.. Joseph Addai........RB4......Ind......IndyHavoc

4.13.. Jonathan Stewart..RB29....n/a......IndyHavoc

2.13.. Antionio Gates......TE1.......SD......IndyHavoc

8.13.. Greg Olsen...........TE17.....Chi......IndyHavoc

3.04.. Brandon Marshall..WR11....Den.....IndyHavoc

6.13.. Bernard Berrian....WR37....Min......IndyHavoc

9.04.. Nate Burleson.......WR47....Sea.....IndyHavoc

1.04 / 2..13 Addai was an easy (if a bit "homer") pick for me. Followed up with first TE off the board. I don't think I've ever actually played in a 2ppr TE league. This seemed to be a good place to get 1 of the 3 TE's I think warrent an early pick. I'm thinking I'll still get a nice WR1 or RB2 on the way back around. Should have a nice core of guys. IMO, survivor leagues are probably more decided on hitting the home runs around rd4-7. We'll see how those go.

3.04 Well. I really had a tough choice as there were 2 or 3 WR's left in my list of WR1's in this format. I went with EEEEEEE simply because I really feel he's going to see an even bigger # of targets and thus recepts (ppr) this season. Walker gone (not a huge impact last year anyway), Stokely older, and whoelse is there. Hell, even Putzier is gone if I'm not mistaken. I'm gambling a bit with the arm/nerve issue...but at this point my list of WR's all had questions/issues.

4.13 upcoming....

Ugh, got kinda stuck here between grabbing some good WR value and really dreading having seriously spotty RB2/3 performance. After looking at upcoming picks I wasn't sure if the high risk/reward of one of the 3 "elite" rookies woulud still be around after the turn. The WR's and QB list looks good to come back around. Stewart is a beast, and now the waiting game begins to see if he drops into a place like Houston.

5.04 Ok, I knew I'd either have a good QB or really good WR come back around. Both made it. This pick was between a couple elder statesmen WR's and Cutler. With 24 picks coming off between now and next, my QB list is the shorter (remaining QB1's: Cutler, Manning, Rivers, then pretty spotty after that). Had to make the QB plunge before I really wanted to. There are I think 7 teams in that back portion that still need a QB. With 2 picks each, chances of a QB mini-run are very high.

6/7 Berrian, Young. Don't "like" these picks, but I think I'll get a return. Both are bigplay guys and string 2 or 3 big plays together in a given game and I've got a nice advantage for the week. Both are also at the tail end of my "buckets", so kinda forced to pick them. Could have used some RB help, but just can't afford it at the moment.

8/9 Greg Olsen / Nate Burlesson: Once again, hitting the bottom of my "buckets" and these 2 picks are being forced onto me. Thus far, I've really hated my draft slot, as I keep coming around and seeing the abyssal drop in 1 or 2 more of certain positions. After Olsen, I'm just not confident that there are ANY TE's that will put up a usable game more than maybe x2 all season. Chi could darn well center what little passing attack they'll have around Olsen...and should. I'm hearing the Branch is much farther away from healthy than seems based off his ADP. Anyone else remember the season that Branch had a "lower body problem" with NE? Didn't play consistently until about week 13? I'm a worried owner of the guy. Also, Bobby Engram is about 45 years old now, and Hackett is gone. Burlesson is definitely up near the top of my "sleepers" this season. I don't HAVE to have him produce, but could really be a homerun here.

10/11 upcoming

 

[Fallerjw]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

8 QB1: Travaris Jackson, Min, QB26

5 QB2: Kellen Clemens, NYJ, QB28

5 QB3: Brady Quinn, CLE, QB31

9 RB1: Frank Gore, SF, RB6

U RB2: Rashard Mendenhall ®, N/A, RB27

8 RB3: Chester Taylor, MIN, RB32

8 RB4: Chris Perry, CIN, RB66

9 WR1: Steve Smith, CAR, WR6

8 WR2: Chad Johnson, CIN, WR12

4 WR3: Calvin Johnson, DET, WR25

8 WR4: James Jones, GBP, WR68

9 WR5: Robert Meacham, NO, WR72

U WR6: Mario Manningham, ®, WR91

WR7:

8 TE1: Owen Daniels, HOU, TE11

5 TE2: Randy McMichael, STL, TE20

6 DST1: Titans DEF14

9 DST2: Panthers DEF25

7 K1: Josh Scobee, Jax, K12

9 K2: Martin Gramatica, NO, PK25

*updated with bye weeks

First round had to be a RB, because my 2nd pick was the 27th overall. 18 RBs were gone by then.

Gore is pretty solid. He is averaging almost 5 YPC for his career and catches a lot of passes. I don't expect that to change now.

Rounds 2 and 3 worked out great for me. I landed two potential home run hitters in Smith and CJ. Smith has averaged 91 catches and 9 TD/year the past 3 seasons. CJ has been a top 10 fantasy WR for the past 5 seasons (92.5 rec and 9 TD over those 5 years).

I feel like I have a pretty solid base set up so far.

Round 4 - Had to go with a RB here. I was a bit surprised that Mendenhall was still there as the 27th RB, but was happy to add him to the roster. Here's hoping he lands somewhere with a need at RB (Chicago anyone?).

Rounds 5, 6 & 7 - Picked up some more solid pieces in the these rounds. Calvin Johnson could flourish this season is he stays healthy, and Chester Taylor should still get some carries. Owen Daniels is an underrated TE. I think he'll be a good value, especially if Schaub can stay healthy.

Round 8 - My draft was literally falling apart at the QB position. Several rounds in a row I had a QB go just before I picked him, so I kept waiting. I waited myself into a trainwreck here. I had to get at least a starter, but I barely did that. I'm not sure if Jackson is going to start all year or not. I'll have to hope so now.

Round 9 - Continuation of my QB search. I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel for QBs "starters" at this point. I can only hope Clemens wins the job and the offense is much improved. I could see him actually being undervalued this year. If he wins the job and the line gels, he could pan out. All in all, I'd say my QBs are still weak. I should have pulled the trigger a round or two sooner, but I'd have missed some good value in other places if I had.

Round 10 - Hopefully this is the last QB I feel like I need to take. I feel like Quinn could get some time this year so it might not end up being a bad pick.

Round 11 - Randy was a top 11 TE for his first 5 seasons. I think he ran into some growing pains in St. Louis, but will be back this year. Not a stud, but should be better than last year.

DEF / K - I was fortunate to not have the same bye week for my 2 kickers or defenses. That's about as much as I can hope for from those positions.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1hillip Rivers, SD, QB15

QB2:Trent Edwards Buf QB 24

QB3:

RB1: Marion Barber III, DAL

RB2: Brandon Jacobs, NYG

RB3:Julius Jones, Sea, RB30

RB4:

WR1: Terrell Owens, DAL

WR2:Lee Evans, Buf, WR18

WR3:

WR4:

WR5:

TE1: Zach Miller, OAK TE13

TE2:

DST1:

DST2:

K1:

K2:

My own take: I was tempted to grab one of a few other players in lieu of Jacobs, but if he can stay healthy, he was very productive both on the ground and through the air - so I kinda had to go that way.

TO is mercurial but usually solid. Is this one too many years in Dal? we'll see.

Barber is great and a potential top 5 - depends on how he shares time, if he does. I don't expect McFadden to be there in DAL, so I think MB3 will more than carry the load.

edited to add: I almost liked being on the ### end last year - two picks quick seemed to give me latitude. This even pacing feels wierd this time out - my picks are too spaced out. I know I know - wah.



Updated commentary on 4/6:

I got backed into Rivers by waiting one too many rounds to grab guys like Bulger, DMac1 and Garrard. But I think he'll put up decent yards and a decent TD count. Trent Edwards should do ok for a backup - and if they get him a good weapon in the draft opposite Evans, could have some nice upside.

The Julius Jones pick has been discussed, as has BJacobs.

Zach Miller isn't my ideal TE but he got some good targets - I can only hope Russell looks for him a lot. Again, waited one round to late for my targets.

Lee Evans/TO is a decent combo - but which evans shows up when and will I be around to care in an elimination contest? Evans was probably a little early, but again if they get Edwards another target, he'll be open more and hopefully looked for more.

 

[Fallerjw]

18 or 20 rounds in this one?

 

[qazqaz11]

20 Rounds

Seems like a lotta work just to see my name "in lights" for 1 week.

I think it would be interesting when the draft is over to compare the 4 PDSL leagues by draft position. Compare the rosters of the 4 people who drafted 1st, then the 4 people who drafted 2nd etc. I would be curious to see the different strategies employed by 4 people drafting from the same slot.

 

[RaiderBones]

QB1: Tom Brady - Patriots

QB2: JaMarcus Russell - Raiders

RB1: Ronnie Brown - Dolphins

RB2: Darren McFadden - Rookie

RB3: Ray Rice - Rookie

RB4: Kolby Smith - Chiefs

RB5: Darren Sproles - Chargers

WR1: Derrick Mason - Ravens

WR2: Joey Galloway - Buccaneers

WR3: Sidney Rice - Vikings

WR4: Mark Bradley - Bears

WR5: Laurent Robinson - Falcons

WR6: DeSean Jackson - Rookie

WR7: Early Doucet - Rookie

TE1: Dallas Clark - Colts

TE2: Desmonnd Clark - Bears

DST1: Indianapolis Colts

DST2: Kansas City Chiefs

K1: Mason Crosby - Packers

K2: Shaun Suisham - Redskins

1st round: Tom Brady - I wanted a strong QB this year so I went with one early in Tom Brady. He probably won't have as many TD's as last year but with his strong recievers on this team he should still put up big solid numbers again this year.

2nd round: Ronnie Brown - I wanted a RB and even though there were some others I was thinking about, I really liked what Ronnie Brown was doing last year before his injury. If he can come even close to what he was doing last year before his injury I should be able to get solid production out of this pick.

3rd round: Darren McFadden - I like what I have seen from this kid in film, the combine, and his pro day. I think he will have a good if not great year.

4th round: Went with Dallas Clark here. I wanted to get a fairly consistant scorer for a TE and Dallas Clark was the best of the rest at this point.

5th round: I was pleasenty surprised to get Derrick Mason here in the 5th. He is not a flashy pick but he very quietly had 103 receptions last year which is what I'm looking for in a ppr league.

6th round: I again was happy to get Joey Galloway this late in the draft as my #2 WR. He is getting up there in age but he still can produce top 25 numbers.

 

[BassNBrew]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:QB1:QB2:QB3:RB1: Marion Barber III, DALRB2: Brandon Jacobs, NYGRB3:RB4:WR1: Terrell Owens, DALWR2:WR3:WR4:WR5:TE1: TE2ST1ST2:K1:K2:My own take: I was tempted to grab one of a few other players in lieu of Jacobs, but if he can stay healthy, he was very productive both on the ground and through the air - so I kinda had to go that way.TO is mercurial but usually solid. Is this one too many years in Dal? we'll see.Barber is great and a potential top 5 - depends on how he shares time, if he does. I don't expect McFadden to be there in DAL, so I think MB3 will more than carry the load.edited to add: I almost liked being on the ### end last year - two picks quick seemed to give me latitude. This even pacing feels wierd this time out - my picks are too spaced out. I know I know - wah.

I doubt Dallas and NYG will share a bye, but Jacobs might share an injury that week. You've taken a lot of risk from that standpoint and handcuffed yourself to an extent.

 

[NoFBinLA]

I doubt Dallas and NYG will share a bye, but Jacobs might share an injury that week. You've taken a lot of risk from that standpoint and handcuffed yourself to an extent.

That is true and IS a concern. If he can stay healthy though he could be very productive.Can't wait for the bye weeks to hit - I love the sudden re-direction we all do the day of..... FUN!

 

[BassNBrew]

I doubt Dallas and NYG will share a bye, but Jacobs might share an injury that week. You've taken a lot of risk from that standpoint and handcuffed yourself to an extent.

That is true and IS a concern. If he can stay healthy though he could be very productive.Can't wait for the bye weeks to hit - I love the sudden re-direction we all do the day of..... FUN!

That always makes these interesting. People have to scramble when they realize 3 of the 4 RBs and stud QB all share the same bye week.

 

[Kirby]

QB1: Peyton Manning

QB2: John Kitna

QB3: John Beck

RB1: Willie Parker

RB2: Edgerrin James

RB3: Shaun Alexander

RB4: DeShaun Foster

RB5: Ricky Williams

WR1: Santana Moss

WR2: Kevin Curtis

WR3: Deion Branch

WR4: Ted Ginn

WR5: Marty Booker

WR6: Michael Clayton

TE1: Todd Heap

TE2: Visanthe Shiancoe

DST1: Seattle Seahawks

DST2: San Francisco 49ers

K1: Robbie Gould

K2: Jason Hanson

1st round: Manning - I liked what was probably going to be left at RB for my 2nd, so I decided to get a guy that can put up huge numbers even though I hate going QB early.

2nd round: Parker - He was the only RB left from my "probably going to there" list. Slipped because he forgot to score TD's last year. Will I get 2 or 16? Hopefully the latter.

3rd round: James - Put up decent numbers despite what he was working with. Hopefully they draft another tackle this year and not a RB.

4th round: Heap - Great value if he stays healthy and returns to his 70 catches. If not.. bad pick.

5th round: Moss - Had to get a WR here... Moss was at the top of my board, I'm hoping Cambell arrives this year.

Overall

QBs - Should put up points... but all have the same bye.

RBs - Not too bad. Foster and Williams should get good touches for backups.

WRs - Not great... waited too long here. Hopefully Branch is healthy to start the season.

TEs - If Heap is healthy all season I'm good here.

K - studs.

D - studs.

 

[Duckboy]

I doubt Dallas and NYG will share a bye, but Jacobs might share an injury that week. You've taken a lot of risk from that standpoint and handcuffed yourself to an extent.

That is true and IS a concern. If he can stay healthy though he could be very productive.Can't wait for the bye weeks to hit - I love the sudden re-direction we all do the day of..... FUN!

That always makes these interesting. People have to scramble when they realize 3 of the 4 RBs and stud QB all share the same bye week.

Had that last year in PDSL2, when my first 3 picks (RB/WR/WR) all ended up with a Week 6 bye. Got even better when my WR3 got traded at the draft to a team with a Week 6 bye. Not that it mattered since those 3 WRs were Marvin/Javon/DJax and I was already gone, but really drove how I had to draft the last few rounds.

 

[IndyHavoc]

QB1: Peyton ManningRB1: Willie ParkerRB2: Edgerrin JamesTE1: Todd HeapTE2:

Really like this core/team. You're really going to have to catch some lightning on your WR's though. There's a few quality ones left, and a few that are in the Santonio Holmes mold from last year. Nice start. I think FWP will bounce back in a big way.

 

[qazqaz11]

In about an hour I'll be away from home for about 3 hr. If I need to, can I PM my picks to someone drafting behind me? Although at the rate we're going I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't gotten to me by the time I get back - 4 picks in 18+ hr is brutal.

 

[Kirby]

In about an hour I'll be away from home for about 3 hr. If I need to, can I PM my picks to someone drafting behind me? Although at the rate we're going I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't gotten to me by the time I get back - 4 picks in 18+ hr is brutal.

I'll be around.

 

[enfuego]

So far:

RB1: Ryan Grant

RB2: MJ Drew

WR1: Plaxico Burress

WR2: Dwayne Bowe

 

[Streetduck]

QB1: Ben Roethisberger - Steelers (6)

QB2: Brodie Croyle - Chiefs (6)

QB3: Chad Pennington - Jets (5)

RB1: Larry Johnson - Chiefs (6)

RB2: Laurence Maroney - Patriots (4)

RB3: Ahmad Bradshaw - Giants (4)

RB4: Tatum Bell - Lions (4)

RB5: Kevin Smith - Lions (4)

WR1: Santonio Holmes - Steelers (6)

WR2: Chris Chambers - Chargers (9)

WR3: Jerry Porter - Jaguars (7)

WR4: Ernest Wilford - Dolphins (4)

WR5: Keary Colbert - Broncos (8)

WR6: Joe Jurevicius - Browns (5)

TE1: Heath Miller - Steelers (6)

TE2: Jeff King - Panthers (9)

DST1: New England - Patriots (4)

DST2: St Louis - Rams (5)

K1: Stephen Gostkowsli - Patriots (4)

K2: Matt Prater - Broncos (8)

 

[CommuterMan]

QB1: Carson Palmer - Bengals

QB2: Steve McNair - Ravens

QB3: Troy Smith - Ravens

RB1: Willis Mcgahee - Ravens

RB2: Travis Henry - Broncos

RB3: Selvin Young - Broncos

RB4: Michael Bush - Raiders

RB5: Warrick Dunn - Bucs

WR1: Randy Moss - Patriots

WR2: Roy Williams - Lions

WR3: DJ Hackett - Panthers

WR4: Drew Bennett - Rams

WR5: Malcolm Kelly - Rookie

WR6: Demeitrius Williams - Ravens

WR7:

TE1: Jeremy Shockey - Giants

TE2: Daniel Graham - Broncos

DST1: Chicago Bears

DST2: Arizona Cardinals

K1: Adam Vinatieri - Colts

K2: David Akers - Eagles

Comments

QB - I like finding Palmer at the bottom of the third round. I believe he will have a solid year after playing a year on his repaired leg. Hoping McNair has one more year left in that arm and that his legs can keep him upright for another season. The Ravens really don't have much else on the roster to challenge the vet as long as he is healthy.... Well so much for thinking McNair would be there to fill in a bye week... Having to burn a pick to draft another QB late in the draft sucks!! Although I really believe that it will be Smith and not Boller who will be under center this September. Seeing how Smith did at the end of last season and how the rest of the team responded to his leadership I would say that he is the one that the team will pull for. In addition Boller biggest supporter in Billick is gone. Finally even if the Ravens draft a QB next week I don't see the team wanting to rush him onto the field immediately.

RB - McGahee will be the workhorse in Baltimore and with no real threat to steal plays from him he should be productive - if Baltimore's offense can move the ball through the air and not allow teams to put 8 or 9 players in the box...

Was hoping that JJ would fall to me here (I think he will do well in Seattle). Needing another RB, I grabbed Henry - hopefully he stays away from his smoking buddies and remains in the good graces of Mike Shanahan. Drafted Henry's hand-cuff for now in Selvin Young. Should be one or the other getting carries each game and Shanahan has shown that he will play the hot hand so this may workout for me.

Bush and Dunn will be role players and could possibly provide depth for me and their NFL teams. I am not expecting a lot from either but given an opportunity they could be bye-week filler.

WR - Moss and Williams set the table for a solid pair of WRs. I like the value of DJ Hackett as my #3 WR - he should do well opposite SSmith and should have a good season if he stays healthy...

I hope that Bennett steps up this season. The Rams let Bruce walk so they must feel that one of their young receivers is ready to play opposite of Holt. If its Bennett the great for my squad.

Malcolm Kelly could be a day-one starter for somebody's NFL team and I hope his skills outshine his latest 40 yard sprint time trials. Demeitrius Williams is a young WR who could get some playing time in the Ravens offense - especially in end zone routes where his size becomes a big target for whomever the QB is in Baltimore - my hope here is for McNair (see above).

TE - I am nervous about all the talk about Shockey not getting along with his teammates and not being a part of the G-Men SB run... but when motivated to play he is still one of the better TEs in the league. I just hope Eli can motivate him to play

I probably waited way to long for picking a 2nd TE but every time I went to draft one in an earlier round there was a run that would reduce the available talent... I think that Graham is a solid pick here in the last round. Scheffler has yet to prove that he is the every-down TE for the Broncos so Graham will definitely see some playing time through-out the season.

I knew the Def/ST run would be starting later in the 12 and 13 round and I did not want to be behind that run. The Bears Def/ST is always a solid performer and Hester should be good for a few TDs this season in the return game. The Cardinals defense is only getting better and should improve into the top half of the league.

Taking Vinatieri was again an anticipation move that the run on kickers would be starting before the draft came back to me at the end of the 15th round... Rounding out the kickers with Akers is a solid pairing that should produce quality points all season long.

All in all picking from the #16 spot in the draft presented some interesting challenges. What is funny is that in my WSL league I had the #1 pick there. Being on the end really makes you focus on getting positions filled before the runs happen. Aside from a solid backup QB, I think my team is well rounded and should be a competitive team for most of the season. As with any Survivor league all it takes is one bad week from a couple of guys and your history. Let the games begin!!!

 

[the_sig]

5.08 - Julius Jones, SEA RBNot sure about this one, but here it is...... now if the situation only doesn't get messier.Will pm qaz

I'll be interested to hear some comments on this pick (in all PDSL drafts). Seems the change of scenery is doing wonders for Julius.PDSL1 he was RB29 @ 5.10PDSL3 he was RB29 @ 4.16I drafted him in WSL4 as RB41 @ 9.06The RB situation in SEA seems far from clear to me at this point. Seems the PDSL folks are pricing in a major share of the carries for Julius, no?

 

[CommuterMan]

5.08 - Julius Jones, SEA RBNot sure about this one, but here it is...... now if the situation only doesn't get messier.Will pm qaz

I'll be interested to hear some comments on this pick (in all PDSL drafts). Seems the change of scenery is doing wonders for Julius.PDSL1 he was RB29 @ 5.10PDSL3 he was RB29 @ 4.16I drafted him in WSL4 as RB41 @ 9.06The RB situation in SEA seems far from clear to me at this point. Seems the PDSL folks are pricing in a major share of the carries for Julius, no?

I think the value for JJ is about right in the PDSL leagues - I was hoping he would have slid to me at the end of round 5. His move to the Pacific Northwest should increase his value as a primary back. Duckett will not be too much of a threat to steal carries unless JJ fails to perform. In Dallas JJ would have continued to lose carries to MBIII and become a non-factor - the reason you got him in the 9th round in WSL4 - good pick for you there!!!

 

[Fallerjw]

5.08 - Julius Jones, SEA RBNot sure about this one, but here it is...... now if the situation only doesn't get messier.Will pm qaz

I'll be interested to hear some comments on this pick (in all PDSL drafts). Seems the change of scenery is doing wonders for Julius.PDSL1 he was RB29 @ 5.10PDSL3 he was RB29 @ 4.16I drafted him in WSL4 as RB41 @ 9.06The RB situation in SEA seems far from clear to me at this point. Seems the PDSL folks are pricing in a major share of the carries for Julius, no?

I agree to a point. He was RB30 in PDSL4. There are 32 teams, and a few with unsettled RB situations. He's still fairly young, and has the potential to get a starting job. I'd say this is close to where he should go.

 

[the_sig]

5.08 - Julius Jones, SEA RBNot sure about this one, but here it is...... now if the situation only doesn't get messier.Will pm qaz

I'll be interested to hear some comments on this pick (in all PDSL drafts). Seems the change of scenery is doing wonders for Julius.PDSL1 he was RB29 @ 5.10PDSL3 he was RB29 @ 4.16I drafted him in WSL4 as RB41 @ 9.06The RB situation in SEA seems far from clear to me at this point. Seems the PDSL folks are pricing in a major share of the carries for Julius, no?

I agree to a point. He was RB30 in PDSL4. There are 32 teams, and a few with unsettled RB situations. He's still fairly young, and has the potential to get a starting job. I'd say this is close to where he should go.

I'll have to go back and re-read some of the criticisms from the Julius to SEA threads. I remember being fairly happy with where I got him in WSL. I was more or less just placing a 'value bet' that a change of scenery might translate into more value. He was still in DAL when I drafted him. I'm surprised to see that 'value' now translates into a full four rounds earlier.

 

[CommuterMan]

I'll have to go back and re-read some of the criticisms from the Julius to SEA threads. I remember being fairly happy with where I got him in WSL. I was more or less just placing a 'value bet' that a change of scenery might translate into more value. He was still in DAL when I drafted him. I'm surprised to see that 'value' now translates into a full four ropunds earlier.

For the moment JJ is a 'starting' RB for one of the 32 NFL teams. That fact alone carries enough weight to move him up on many draft boards from where his value was viewed in Dallas. This does not preclude his value dropping again should Seattle draft a RB on day one of the draft.

 

[Fiddles]

really like faller so far

 

[the_sig]

Team the_sig draft & commentary

QB1: Eli Manning - NY Giants

QB2:

QB3:

RB1: Reggie Bush - Saints

RB2: Earnest Graham - Bucs

RB3:

RB4:

WR1: Reggie Wayne - Colts

WR2: Wes Welker - Patriots

WR3: Donald Driver - Packers

WR4:

WR5:

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Vernon Davis - 49ers

TE2:

DST1:

DST2:

K1:

K2:

QB Commentary: I expected the typical Peyton/Brady picks early, but all in all, QB's were moving quicker than I expected here. I was hoping to sit back and wait till my round 7 pick, but I was worried about what would be left. Eli should be a solid QB1. I had thought about Bulger as well who went a few picks earlier, but he just misses too much time. I like that Eli has played a full 16 games in each of the last 3 years and under this scoring has been top 10-15ish each year. Maybe he takes another big step forward in 2008 coming off the super bowl victory?

RB Commentary: From the 1.12 spot, I was very happy to land Reggie Bush. In PPR, he is a monster. Should be another 80+ rec year, which should place him in the top 10 in this scoring format. Obviously health and who his RBBC partner is will be issues, but again, at 1.12 me likey. Happy to land Graham at 4.05. He should be a solid RB2 for this squad and I think he is an underrated pass catcher.

WR Commentary: Very happy with Wayne as my WR1. Probably more 'upside' with a TO pick, but I like a guy like Wayne as a core player. He probably has a fairly nice floor of about 85/1200/8 even with a developing Gonzalez and possible return of Marv. If he builds on last years 104/1500+/10...watch out. I love Welker as a WR2 in PPR. With the resigning of Randy, here is to hoping for another 100+ catch season. I was looking at a variety of guys with my 5.12 pick, but just decided I couldn't pass up on Driver for my WR3. I think he is being written off/undervalued by too many for 2008 imo. This would be a risky pick if he were my WR1 or 2, but I think he'll end up out playing his WR28 price.

 

[NoFBinLA]

I'll have to go back and re-read some of the criticisms from the Julius to SEA threads. I remember being fairly happy with where I got him in WSL. I was more or less just placing a 'value bet' that a change of scenery might translate into more value. He was still in DAL when I drafted him. I'm surprised to see that 'value' now translates into a full four rounds earlier.

I think it may be a sign we all just assume SA is DONE. And Duckett has never been a threat to anyone at the #1 (well not in soem time).The wrinkle will be the SEA picks in the draft - if they go RB early, could be interesting. But I think for one year, Jones will at least split carries - as my #3 RB (assuming Jacobs stays healthy) he should produce enough with enough upside to make me happy.

 

[the_sig]

I'll have to go back and re-read some of the criticisms from the Julius to SEA threads. I remember being fairly happy with where I got him in WSL. I was more or less just placing a 'value bet' that a change of scenery might translate into more value. He was still in DAL when I drafted him. I'm surprised to see that 'value' now translates into a full four rounds earlier.

I think it may be a sign we all just assume SA is DONE. And Duckett has never been a threat to anyone at the #1 (well not in soem time).The wrinkle will be the SEA picks in the draft - if they go RB early, could be interesting. But I think for one year, Jones will at least split carries - as my #3 RB (assuming Jacobs stays healthy) he should produce enough with enough upside to make me happy.

I don't disagree with a word you have said. I actually kinda like Julius this year. I took him later in WSL4 as a gamble he'd land somewhere OK, that has obviously paid off. I would have drafted him at some point in this PDSL4 too....I was just surprised he jumped up about 3/4 rounds is all.

 

[NoFBinLA]

I don't disagree with a word you have said. I actually kinda like Julius this year. I took him later in WSL4 as a gamble he'd land somewhere OK, that has obviously paid off. I would have drafted him at some point in this PDSL4 too....I was just surprised he jumped up about 3/4 rounds is all.

What amazed me is - in my initial thinking at the time - how little SA entered into my thoughts. Like he retired or something which of course he hasn't. If you stop to think about it, it's a heck of an assumption (that he won't be a factor), but kinda telling.This is one of the reasons I enjoyed doing a PDSL last year - it gave me some insight (incredibly early but there nonetheless) as to not only my own mindset at the time, but some other peoples.

 

[FUBAR]

just took a cursory glance at the teams, including rounds 6 and 7.

So far, smackit is treating you all like whatever it is he named himself after.

ETA: I take it back, the Sig's team is very impressive as well.

 

[Getinthemix]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1: Donovan McNabb, QB 11 (5)

QB2: Jeff Garcia, QB 24 (8)

QB3:

RB1: Clinton Portis, RB 10 (1)

RB2: DeAngelo Williams, RB 25 (4)

RB3: Cedric POS Benson, RB 35 (7)

RB4:

WR1: Andre Johnson, WR 3 (2)

WR2: Javon Walker, WR 34 (6)

WR3: Mark Clayton, WR 49 (9)

WR4: Steve Smith, WR58 (10)

WR5:

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Chris Cooley, TE 5 (3)

TE2:

DST1:

DST2:

K1:

K2:

1 - I had a tough debate between Portis and Bush. I really wanted Marshawn Lynch, but he was taken one pick before me. I went with Portis, but looking back on it, probably should have taken the potential upside in Bush. Portis is good enough, though.

2 - Andre Johnson is my #2 WR behind Reggie Wayne. Wayne went one pick before, so I took Andre. Just hink he puts it all together this year on an up and coming Texans team.

3 - Chris Cooley - Getting my #4 TE at the end of round 3 with 2 PPR TE scoring is nice.

4 - DeAngelo Williams - While I don't really like him, his upside as RB 25 is nice. He catches well and unless they draft a RB early, there really is not any compettition on the roster.

5 - McNabb - Really like him another year removed from his knee injury. Late in the year he started to turn it back on, and think the time off only helps.

6 - Javon Walker - Loved his upside at WR 34. If his knee is healthy, he has the skills to be a top 10 WR

7 - Benson - WHile I cannot stand him, I thought he represented too much value here to pass up. He is a starter and to get him at RB 35 was good value.

8- Getting Garcia as the last solid starter was decent. Gives me decent depth at QB and will have some good weeks. Had someone else I was targeting, but felt I needed a solid back up QB, and thought that Garcia was the only one left.

9- Very happy to get Mark Clayton. He was in consideration for me for the last two rounds. I expect a bounce back this year, to what people expected going into '07. If he does bounce back, that will help.

10- Pretty happy to get Steve Smith in the 10th. Decent upside. Hoping he can keep up the rapport with Eli that started to develop in the post season.

 

[the_sig]

Team the_sig draft & commentary

QB1: Eli Manning - NY Giant

QB2: Jason Campbell - Redskins

QB3:

RB1: Reggie Bush - Saints

RB2: Earnest Graham - Bucs

RB3: Kevin Jones - F/A

RB4:

WR1: Reggie Wayne - Colts

WR2: Wes Welker - Patriots

WR3: Donald Driver - Packers

WR4: Isaac Bruce - 49ers

WR5: Ronald Curry - Raiders

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Vernon Davis - 49ers

TE2: Eric Johnson - Saints

DST1: Philadelphia Eagles

DST2: Washington Redskins

K1:

K2:

QB Commentary: I expected the typical Peyton/Brady picks early, but all in all, QB's were moving quicker than I expected here. I was hoping to sit back and wait till my round 7 pick, but I was worried about what would be left. Eli should be a solid QB1. I had thought about Bulger as well who went a few picks earlier, but he just misses too much time. I like that Eli has played a full 16 games in each of the last 3 years and under this scoring has been top 10-15ish each year. Maybe he takes another big step forward in 2008 coming off the super bowl victory?

If I had nabbed a high end QB, I probably would have waited on a QB2, but with Eli as QB1, I want another regular contributor. Campbell should fit that bill. I like Zorn's recent comments assuring that Campbell is 'THE QB'.

RB Commentary: From the 1.12 spot, I was very happy to land Reggie Bush. In PPR, he is a monster. Should be another 80+ rec year, which should place him in the top 10 in this scoring format. Obviously health and who his RBBC partner is will be issues, but again, at 1.12 me likey. Happy to land Graham at 4.05. He should be a solid RB2 for this squad and I think he is an underrated pass catcher. Not sure why I waited so long on RB3 to be painted into the Kevin Jones corner. Who knows about his health, where he could land, or what he could even contribute to this team.

WR Commentary: Very happy with Wayne as my WR1. Probably more 'upside' with a TO pick, but I like a guy like Wayne as a core player. He probably has a fairly nice floor of about 85/1200/8 even with a developing Gonzalez and possible return of Marv. If he builds on last years 104/1500+/10...watch out. I love Welker as a WR2 in PPR. With the resigning of Randy, here is to hoping for another 100+ catch season. I was looking at a variety of guys with my 5.12 pick, but just decided I couldn't pass up on Driver for my WR3. I think he is being written off/undervalued by too many for 2008 imo. This would be a risky pick if he were my WR1 or 2, but I think he'll end up out playing his WR28 price. Happy to add Bruce as WR4 to my group, pretty solid value late in the 9th. Byes w/ Vernon Davis/Bruce shouldn't be a big deal since Bruce is my WR4. Curry should have a few big games and contribute in this best ball format. If Walker has any lingering health issues, this was a steal imo.

TE Commentary: Thought I'd wait on TE and get TE15 type guy or two. Honestly very surprised Vernon Davis was still around @ 7.12. He hasn't lasted past TE10 & 6.10 in any prior SL draft this year. It'll be interesting too see how he is used in the Martz system. If reports of him being used in the slot role are correct, he could be golden. In any even, he should put TE14 level or better stats which is what I paid. Eric Johnson was one of the last TE's I was willing to roster. He's no stud, but he may have some upside.

 

[Getinthemix]

Vernon Davis was a GREAT pick. Could not believe he was there for you. If I would have known that, I would never have taken Cooley in R3. Tremendous value.

 

[RaiderBones]

Vernon Davis was a GREAT pick. Could not believe he was there for you. If I would have known that, I would never have taken Cooley in R3. Tremendous value.

I agree great value this late in the draft, V. Davis is very talented, however, a TE has never really faired well in a Mike Martz offense and I think because of that uncertainty could be why he fell so far. However Mike Martz never had a TE this talented before so hopefully he is smart enough to find a way to get V. Davis the ball.

 

[the_sig]

Vernon Davis was a GREAT pick. Could not believe he was there for you. If I would have known that, I would never have taken Cooley in R3. Tremendous value.

I agree great value this late in the draft, V. Davis is very talented, however, a TE has never really faired well in a Mike Martz offense and I think because of that uncertainty could be why he fell so far. However Mike Martz never had a TE this talented before so hopefully he is smart enough to find a way to get V. Davis the ball.

Agree on the uncertainty. He is not a guy I have actively targeted, but when 'value' falls, and it also fits a team need, ya gotta capitalize. Presumably the PDSL1,2 & 3 drafters also see that uncertainty...but they took him @ 5.12, 6.06 & 6.07. I doubt I end up getting a guy like V. Davis on too many teams though....

 

[NoFBinLA]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1:

QB2:

QB3:

RB1: Frank Gore, SF, RB6

RB2: Rashard Mendenhall ®, N/A, RB27

RB3: Chester Taylor, MIN, RB32

RB4:

WR1: Steve Smith, CAR, WR6

WR2: Chad Johnson, CIN, WR12

WR3: Calvin Johnson, DET, WR25

WR4:

WR5:

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Owen Daniels, HOU, TE11

TE2:

Really really like that core WR/RB. Mendenhall could be good or bad depending where he drafts but Taylor should still be valuable this year. Smith Johnson and Johnson could be very dominant this year.

 

[awesomeness]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1: Matt Hasselbeck SEA QB8

QB2: Shaun Hill SF QB32

QB3:

RB1: Brian Westbrook PHI RB2

RB2: Chris Brown HOU RB34

RB3: Brandon Jackson GB RB54

RB4: Fred Jackson RB55

rb5: Leon Washington RB63

WR1: Marques Colston NO WR8

WR2: Roddy White ATL WR20

WR3: Vincent Jackson SD WR38

WR4: Bryant Johnson SF WR46

WR5: Devin Thomas Rookie WR73

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Kellen Winslow III CLE TE3

TE2: Benjamin Watson NE TE19

PK1: Shayne Graham CIN PK12

DST1: San Diego Chargers

Pick 1: Pretty easy choice, Westbrook should get a lot mor receptions than ADP, and any rushing yardage Westbrook loses to ADP, he should make it up and some in receiving yards.

Pick 2: Was thinking of taking anyone of Marshall/Colston/Ocho Cinco. Chad Johnson is inconsistent week to week, which is not a good characteristic to have in a survivor league. Marshall doesn't seem to have his head on straight, so i took Colston thinking hes the safest pick.

Pick 3: I really wanted a top 4 TE with our scoring system, took Winslow over Tony G because of the chiefs got a new offensive coordinator, and because of the uncertainty of the Chief's QB situation.

Pick 4: Took Roddy White as he looked like the best WR left for a PPR league, and i really needed a WR. Looking back, i'm thinking i maybe should have taken Cotchery.

Pick 5: Hasselbeck seemed to be good value here, i had him as the last guy in a tier of top notch QBs. I expect the seahawks to continue to throw a lot.

Pick 6: Would have loved to get Jerry Porter or Javon Walker here, hopefully Vincent Jackson will carry the chemistry he had with Rivers from the playoffs over to this year.

Pick 7: I'm pretty confident in Chris Brown starting for at least the majority of next year (barring injury). Doesn't make much sense if the Texans would bring in Chris Brown to back up, since they already have 2-3 backup players who are more than capable.

Pick 8: I really like this pick, especially if Johnson gets to play slot which seems likely with Battle and Bruce on the outside. The last 2 slot WR of Martz's system have put up crazy numbers.

Pick 9: Watson was one of the two remaining TE's left who have any sort of value at all imo, and i didn't think the other guy would make it back to me.

 

[enfuego]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1: 5.15 Marc Bulger, Stl, QB12

QB2: 7.15 Matt Leinart, ARI QB21

QB3:

RB1: 1.15 - Ryan Grant, GB, RB13

RB2: 2.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, Jax, RB15

RB3:

RB4:

WR1: 3.15 Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR15

WR2: 4.02 Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR17

WR3: 6.02 Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR33

WR4: 9.15 Patrick Crayton DAL WR52

WR5: 10.02 Roydell Williams, TEN WR54

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: 8.02 Alge Crumpler, TEN TE15

TE2:

DST1:

DST2:

Drafting at the bottom of the snake is both a blessing and a curse. You may get to see a trend forming early in the round and choose either to stock up or head completely in another direction. In R1 & 2, I felt that RB's were too valuable (as they are in most any draft) to not stock up here...Especially with two solid PPR backs like Ryan Grant & MJ Drew still available. I knew I was sacrificing the stud WR, but the top 2 Q's were already gone, I like my young RB's.

When my pick came up at 3.15, I noticed a huge run on WR's, few TE's, couple more Q's...I thought about taking Carson Palmer here, but decided since Burress dropped this far, I should nab him. He was the #15th WR taken, which I think is a deal. Palmer was taken the next pick, which did not hurt my feelings too bad as the Bengals will not be as pass happy this coming year. With the trend strong WR, I took Bowe at 4.02

5.15 - I knew I needed to go Q here. In retrospect I should have gone with Eli (next Q taken) or Kitna (who didn't go until 7.14, QB20...a steal). But instead chose Bulger. Hopefully his '08 will be a comeback year with a revamped line to keep him upright and healthy RB Jackson.

6.02 - I originally tried to draft Kellen Winslow, Jr here, but awesomeness who drafted him at 3.02 didn't think that was fair, so I had to go back and re-pick. If Marvin Harrison can last just one more year, I just stole him here.

7.15 - Looking at the board, I really thought I would have a chance to grab Kitna here. But Kirby snagged him the pick just before mine. Not many quality starters left. Leinart has potential, so I grab him here.

8.02 - Crumpler was solid on an awful Falcons team. Now he's with the Titans, under Heimerdinger's system, he should be an Pro bowler again.

9.15 & 10.02 - Crayton and Williams - just good WR's.

 

[the_sig]

QUOTE (enfuego @ Apr 8 2008, 12:42 PM)

Anyone care to breakdown and discuss my team while we wait?

A couple of thoughts:

I'm a St Louis homer, and considered Bulger. He could be top 5ish if he plays 16 games. I just worry he'll only get 12 in at best. Iv'e never been a huge Leinart fan. He sure has the weapons, we'll see how 2008 goes. Problem is he has an aging vet that can control that offense breathing down his neck. If this was my squad, I'd be worried that if I was still in it, I'd have no QB come week 12.

I like both RB's you have so far.

In my honest opinion. I think Marvin might be done. If he is, that might hurt your WR corps than you expect.

If Crumpler is really healthy, I think he could be a late steal in re-drafts this year.

 

[IndyHavoc]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:QB1: 5.15 Marc Bulger, Stl, QB12QB2: 7.15 Matt Leinart, ARI QB21RB1: 1.15 - Ryan Grant, GB, RB13RB2: 2.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, Jax, RB15WR1: 3.15 Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR15WR2: 4.02 Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR17WR3: 6.02 Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR33WR4: 9.15 Patrick Crayton DAL WR52WR5: 10.02 Roydell Williams, TEN WR54TE1: 8.02 Alge Crumpler, TEN TE15

Owned Bulger in several leagues each year of the last 3. So much potential, so easily hurt. This guy is actually a pretty good pull for a Survivor League. BUT, then you only back him up with Leinart. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that guy is destined to start off slowly from the injury, then continue to tailspin. And yes, I thought this before any "partying" anti-hype. Maybe it'll click and the kid will start respecting the game and thus gain the respect of his teammates?? This looks like a major risk position for you as the QB pickings at this point are VERY slim.RB: You're set here, imo. Get some "sleeper" picks and maybe grab a backup from the GB stable of contributors.WR: very strong. Like Plex, like Bowe. Harrison, imo, is about 60/40 done. From everythign I heard, he really lost his desire/fire (what little there was of it) to play football at a high level. If he comes back, I think it will be merely at the behest of Peyton. Not the mindset I'd think you need to have to take the punishment of practice, training, gameplay. /shrug. Crayton is a good pickup. TEN passing game I have no read on at all. I'm invested here with VY also, and really have no idea which direction he's going (he was at a cliff edge of guys you can count on to have at least 2 or 3 BIG games / season...so, had to pull the trigger).TE: You have GOT to get some help. Am I the only one that thinks Crumpler is this years DJax. All the signs point to "body falling apart", "skills diminishing", and "dumped by long-time team." /shrug. I'd rather have Bo Scaife, honestly.BTW, I reserve the right to be 100% wrong and/or inacurrate about all breakdown I suck at FF!

 

[the_sig]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1: 5.15 Marc Bulger, Stl, QB12

QB2: 7.15 Matt Leinart, ARI QB21

RB1: 1.15 - Ryan Grant, GB, RB13

RB2: 2.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, Jax, RB15

WR1: 3.15 Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR15

WR2: 4.02 Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR17

WR3: 6.02 Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR33

WR4: 9.15 Patrick Crayton DAL WR52

WR5: 10.02 Roydell Williams, TEN WR54

TE1: 8.02 Alge Crumpler, TEN TE15

Owned Bulger in several leagues each year of the last 3. So much potential, so easily hurt. This guy is actually a pretty good pull for a Survivor League. BUT, then you only back him up with Leinart. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that guy is destined to start off slowly from the injury, then continue to tailspin. And yes, I thought this before any "partying" anti-hype. Maybe it'll click and the kid will start respecting the game and thus gain the respect of his teammates?? This looks like a major risk position for you as the QB pickings at this point are VERY slim.RB: You're set here, imo. Get some "sleeper" picks and maybe grab a backup from the GB stable of contributors.

WR: very strong. Like Plex, like Bowe. Harrison, imo, is about 60/40 done. From everythign I heard, he really lost his desire/fire (what little there was of it) to play football at a high level. If he comes back, I think it will be merely at the behest of Peyton. Not the mindset I'd think you need to have to take the punishment of practice, training, gameplay. /shrug. Crayton is a good pickup. TEN passing game I have no read on at all. I'm invested here with VY also, and really have no idea which direction he's going (he was at a cliff edge of guys you can count on to have at least 2 or 3 BIG games / season...so, had to pull the trigger).

TE: You have GOT to get some help. Am I the only one that thinks Crumpler is this years DJax. All the signs point to "body falling apart", "skills diminishing", and "dumped by long-time team." /shrug. I'd rather have Bo Scaife, honestly.

BTW, I reserve the right to be 100% wrong and/or inacurrate about all breakdown I suck at FF!

In my comments above about Crumpler, I made sure to add the 'if healthy' as I agree that is key. Presumably TEN has done its due dilegence, or wouldn't have signed Crumpler. I think people forgot what a solid TE he has been though...TE8, 5,4,5,2,15. That is a bunch of top 5 finishes for a guy going at TE15...basically what he finished last year as with an injury shortened season. For Crumpler, playing on a team desperate for some talent catching the ball....I could see Crump being a top 5 TE if healthy and things click with the Hermdinger offense and VY.

 

[the_sig]

Team the_sig draft & commentary

QB1: Eli Manning - NY Giant

QB2: Jason Campbell - Redskins

QB3:

RB1: Reggie Bush - Saints

RB2: Earnest Graham - Bucs

RB3: Kevin Jones - F/A

RB4:

WR1: Reggie Wayne - Colts

WR2: Wes Welker - Patriots

WR3: Donald Driver - Packers

WR4: Isaac Bruce - 49ers

WR5: Ronald Curry - Raiders

WR6: Chad Jackson - Patriots

WR7:

TE1: Vernon Davis - 49ers

TE2: Eric Johnson - Saints

DST1: Philadelphia Eagles

DST2: Washington Redskins

K1:

K2:

QB Commentary: I expected the typical Peyton/Brady picks early, but all in all, QB's were moving quicker than I expected here. I was hoping to sit back and wait till my round 7 pick, but I was worried about what would be left. Eli should be a solid QB1. I had thought about Bulger as well who went a few picks earlier, but he just misses too much time. I like that Eli has played a full 16 games in each of the last 3 years and under this scoring has been top 10-15ish each year. Maybe he takes another big step forward in 2008 coming off the super bowl victory?

If I had nabbed a high end QB, I probably would have waited on a QB2, but with Eli as QB1, I want another regular contributor. Campbell should fit that bill. I like Zorn's recent comments assuring that Campbell is 'THE QB'.

RB Commentary: From the 1.12 spot, I was very happy to land Reggie Bush. In PPR, he is a monster. Should be another 80+ rec year, which should place him in the top 10 in this scoring format. Obviously health and who his RBBC partner is will be issues, but again, at 1.12 me likey. Happy to land Graham at 4.05. He should be a solid RB2 for this squad and I think he is an underrated pass catcher. Not sure why I waited so long on RB3 to be painted into the Kevin Jones corner. Who knows about his health, where he could land, or what he could even contribute to this team.

WR Commentary: Very happy with Wayne as my WR1. Probably more 'upside' with a TO pick, but I like a guy like Wayne as a core player. He probably has a fairly nice floor of about 85/1200/8 even with a developing Gonzalez and possible return of Marv. If he builds on last years 104/1500+/10...watch out. I love Welker as a WR2 in PPR. With the resigning of Randy, here is to hoping for another 100+ catch season. I was looking at a variety of guys with my 5.12 pick, but just decided I couldn't pass up on Driver for my WR3. I think he is being written off/undervalued by too many for 2008 imo. This would be a risky pick if he were my WR1 or 2, but I think he'll end up out playing his WR28 price.

Happy to add Bruce as WR4 to my group, pretty solid value late in the 9th. Byes w/ Vernon Davis/Bruce shouldn't be a big deal since Bruce is my WR4. Curry should have a few big games and contribute in this best ball format. If Walker has any lingering health issues, this was a steal imo. Not a big fan of doubling up on WR's from trhe same team, but went ahead and drafted another NE WR. I have been a fan of Chad Jackson since he came into the league. Health has kept him off the field. It'll be interesting to see if he can actually go out and play a whole season. In NE's potent offense, he could have some nice upside with Stallworth gone and only Gaffney in front of him, which is what these rd15+ picks are all about imo

TE Commentary: Thought I'd wait on TE and get TE15 type guy or two. Honestly very surprised Vernon Davis was still around @ 7.12. He hasn't lasted past TE10 & 6.10 in any prior SL draft this year. It'll be interesting too see how he is used in the Martz system. If reports of him being used in the slot role are correct, he could be golden. In any even, he should put TE14 level or better stats which is what I paid. Eric Johnson was one of the last TE's I was willing to roster. He's no stud, but he may have some upside.

DEF/ST Commentary: Decided to go back to back with my rd 13/14 picks to get two units that should finish in the top half of the league, with upside for better.

 

[RaiderBones]

Team the_sig draft & commentary

QB1: Eli Manning - NY Giant

QB2: Jason Campbell - Redskins

QB3:

RB1: Reggie Bush - Saints

RB2: Earnest Graham - Bucs

RB3: Kevin Jones - F/A

RB4:

WR1: Reggie Wayne - Colts

WR2: Wes Welker - Patriots

WR3: Donald Driver - Packers

WR4: Isaac Bruce - 49ers

WR5: Ronald Curry - Raiders

WR6:

WR7:

TE1: Vernon Davis - 49ers

TE2: Eric Johnson - Saints

DST1: Philadelphia Eagles

DST2: Washington Redskins

K1:

K2:

QB Commentary: I expected the typical Peyton/Brady picks early, but all in all, QB's were moving quicker than I expected here. I was hoping to sit back and wait till my round 7 pick, but I was worried about what would be left. Eli should be a solid QB1. I had thought about Bulger as well who went a few picks earlier, but he just misses too much time. I like that Eli has played a full 16 games in each of the last 3 years and under this scoring has been top 10-15ish each year. Maybe he takes another big step forward in 2008 coming off the super bowl victory?

If I had nabbed a high end QB, I probably would have waited on a QB2, but with Eli as QB1, I want another regular contributor. Campbell should fit that bill. I like Zorn's recent comments assuring that Campbell is 'THE QB'.

RB Commentary: From the 1.12 spot, I was very happy to land Reggie Bush. In PPR, he is a monster. Should be another 80+ rec year, which should place him in the top 10 in this scoring format. Obviously health and who his RBBC partner is will be issues, but again, at 1.12 me likey. Happy to land Graham at 4.05. He should be a solid RB2 for this squad and I think he is an underrated pass catcher. Not sure why I waited so long on RB3 to be painted into the Kevin Jones corner. Who knows about his health, where he could land, or what he could even contribute to this team.

WR Commentary: Very happy with Wayne as my WR1. Probably more 'upside' with a TO pick, but I like a guy like Wayne as a core player. He probably has a fairly nice floor of about 85/1200/8 even with a developing Gonzalez and possible return of Marv. If he builds on last years 104/1500+/10...watch out. I love Welker as a WR2 in PPR. With the resigning of Randy, here is to hoping for another 100+ catch season. I was looking at a variety of guys with my 5.12 pick, but just decided I couldn't pass up on Driver for my WR3. I think he is being written off/undervalued by too many for 2008 imo. This would be a risky pick if he were my WR1 or 2, but I think he'll end up out playing his WR28 price. Happy to add Bruce as WR4 to my group, pretty solid value late in the 9th. Byes w/ Vernon Davis/Bruce shouldn't be a big deal since Bruce is my WR4. Curry should have a few big games and contribute in this best ball format. If Walker has any lingering health issues, this was a steal imo.

TE Commentary: Thought I'd wait on TE and get TE15 type guy or two. Honestly very surprised Vernon Davis was still around @ 7.12. He hasn't lasted past TE10 & 6.10 in any prior SL draft this year. It'll be interesting too see how he is used in the Martz system. If reports of him being used in the slot role are correct, he could be golden. In any even, he should put TE14 level or better stats which is what I paid. Eric Johnson was one of the last TE's I was willing to roster. He's no stud, but he may have some upside.

DEF/ST Commentary: Decided to go back to back with my rd 13/14 picks to get to units that should finish in the top half of the league, with upside for better.

I almost went with Washington DEF/ST with my last pick but decided that there was just a few RB's and WR's left that I think can make a impact that won't be available later on so I went that route instead.

 

[the_sig]

Team the_sig draft & commentary

QB1: Eli Manning - NY Giant (4)

QB2: Jason Campbell - Redskins (10)

QB3:

RB1: Reggie Bush - Saints (9)

RB2: Earnest Graham - Bucs (10)

RB3: Kevin Jones - F/A (?)

RB4: Derrick Ward - NYG (4)

WR1: Reggie Wayne - Colts (4)

WR2: Wes Welker - Patriots (4)

WR3: Donald Driver - Packers (8)

WR4: Isaac Bruce - 49ers (9)

WR5: Ronald Curry - Raiders (5)

WR6: Chad Jackson - Patriots (4)

WR7:

TE1: Vernon Davis - 49ers (9)

TE2: Eric Johnson - Saints (9)

DST1: Philadelphia Eagles (7)

DST2: Washington Redskins (10)

K1: Josh Brown - Rams (5)

K2: Matt Stover - Ravens (10)

Bye weeks in ()

QB Commentary: I expected the typical Peyton/Brady picks early, but all in all, QB's were moving quicker than I expected here. I was hoping to sit back and wait till my round 7 pick, but I was worried about what would be left. Eli should be a solid QB1. I had thought about Bulger as well who went a few picks earlier, but he just misses too much time. I like that Eli has played a full 16 games in each of the last 3 years and under this scoring has been top 10-15ish each year. Maybe he takes another big step forward in 2008 coming off the super bowl victory?

If I had nabbed a high end QB, I probably would have waited on a QB2, but with Eli as QB1, I want another regular contributor. Campbell should fit that bill. I like Zorn's recent comments assuring that Campbell is 'THE QB'.

RB Commentary: From the 1.12 spot, I was very happy to land Reggie Bush. In PPR, he is a monster. Should be another 80+ rec year, which should place him in the top 10 in this scoring format. Obviously health and who his RBBC partner is will be issues, but again, at 1.12 me likey. Happy to land Graham at 4.05. He should be a solid RB2 for this squad and I think he is an underrated pass catcher. Not sure why I waited so long on RB3 to be painted into the Kevin Jones corner. Who knows about his health, where he could land, or what he could even contribute to this team. Added Ward as a possible bye week filler. I'll likely only need him to cover weeks 9/10 when my RB1/2 are on byes. I figured he has a reasonable shot to be in the mix due to injuries at that point in the season.

WR Commentary: Very happy with Wayne as my WR1. Probably more 'upside' with a TO pick, but I like a guy like Wayne as a core player. He probably has a fairly nice floor of about 85/1200/8 even with a developing Gonzalez and possible return of Marv. If he builds on last years 104/1500+/10...watch out. I love Welker as a WR2 in PPR. With the resigning of Randy, here is to hoping for another 100+ catch season. I was looking at a variety of guys with my 5.12 pick, but just decided I couldn't pass up on Driver for my WR3. I think he is being written off/undervalued by too many for 2008 imo. This would be a risky pick if he were my WR1 or 2, but I think he'll end up out playing his WR28 price.

Happy to add Bruce as WR4 to my group, pretty solid value late in the 9th. Byes w/ Vernon Davis/Bruce shouldn't be a big deal since Bruce is my WR4. Curry should have a few big games and contribute in this best ball format. If Walker has any lingering health issues, this was a steal imo. Not a big fan of doubling up on WR's from trhe same team, but went ahead and drafted another NE WR. I have been a fan of Chad Jackson since he came into the league. Health has kept him off the field. It'll be interesting to see if he can actually go out and play a whole season. In NE's potent offense, he could have some nice upside with Stallworth gone and only Gaffney in front of him, which is what these rd15+ picks are all about imo

TE Commentary: Thought I'd wait on TE and get TE15 type guy or two. Honestly very surprised Vernon Davis was still around @ 7.12. He hasn't lasted past TE10 & 6.10 in any prior SL draft this year. It'll be interesting too see how he is used in the Martz system. If reports of him being used in the slot role are correct, he could be golden. In any even, he should put TE14 level or better stats which is what I paid. Eric Johnson was one of the last TE's I was willing to roster. He's no stud, but he may have some upside.

DEF/ST Commentary: Decided to go back to back with my rd 13/14 picks to get two units that should finish in the top half of the league, with upside for better.

K Commentary: Not much to say about K's really. Usually I wait and get a couple of bottom half guys, but several of the skill guys I considered here will likely still be available a few more rounds.....might as well 'upgrade' my K slot. I like Brown to have a solid season. Rams OFF should pick up, and kicking home games inside is nice as well. Stover is a solid K, and at least he doesn't share a bye. Good enough.

 

[Fiddles]

Roster Breakdown and discussion:

QB1: 5.15 Marc Bulger, Stl, QB12

QB2: 7.15 Matt Leinart, ARI QB21

RB1: 1.15 - Ryan Grant, GB, RB13

RB2: 2.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, Jax, RB15

WR1: 3.15 Plaxico Burress, NYG, WR15

WR2: 4.02 Dwayne Bowe, KC, WR17

WR3: 6.02 Marvin Harrison, Ind, WR33

WR4: 9.15 Patrick Crayton DAL WR52

WR5: 10.02 Roydell Williams, TEN WR54

TE1: 8.02 Alge Crumpler, TEN TE15

Owned Bulger in several leagues each year of the last 3. So much potential, so easily hurt. This guy is actually a pretty good pull for a Survivor League. BUT, then you only back him up with Leinart. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that guy is destined to start off slowly from the injury, then continue to tailspin. And yes, I thought this before any "partying" anti-hype. Maybe it'll click and the kid will start respecting the game and thus gain the respect of his teammates?? This looks like a major risk position for you as the QB pickings at this point are VERY slim.RB: You're set here, imo. Get some "sleeper" picks and maybe grab a backup from the GB stable of contributors.

WR: very strong. Like Plex, like Bowe. Harrison, imo, is about 60/40 done. From everythign I heard, he really lost his desire/fire (what little there was of it) to play football at a high level. If he comes back, I think it will be merely at the behest of Peyton. Not the mindset I'd think you need to have to take the punishment of practice, training, gameplay. /shrug. Crayton is a good pickup. TEN passing game I have no read on at all. I'm invested here with VY also, and really have no idea which direction he's going (he was at a cliff edge of guys you can count on to have at least 2 or 3 BIG games / season...so, had to pull the trigger).

TE: You have GOT to get some help. Am I the only one that thinks Crumpler is this years DJax. All the signs point to "body falling apart", "skills diminishing", and "dumped by long-time team." /shrug. I'd rather have Bo Scaife, honestly.

BTW, I reserve the right to be 100% wrong and/or inacurrate about all breakdown I suck at FF!

In my comments above about Crumpler, I made sure to add the 'if healthy' as I agree that is key. Presumably TEN has done its due dilegence, or wouldn't have signed Crumpler. I think people forgot what a solid TE he has been though...TE8, 5,4,5,2,15. That is a bunch of top 5 finishes for a guy going at TE15...basically what he finished last year as with an injury shortened season. For Crumpler, playing on a team desperate for some talent catching the ball....I could see Crump being a top 5 TE if healthy and things click with the Hermdinger offense and VY.

im with sig on thislove him in the mid rounds

 

[Kirby]

Really??? Manning, Kitna, and Beck... took an extra just to be safe... are all on the same bye week?