Peppers or Seymour? You can only have one.... (1 Viewer)

[Borat]

if i wanted to build a 3-4 around one player, it would probably be seymour... if i wanted to build a 4-3, it would probably be peppers.

I'd take Seymour whether we're talking a 3-4 or a 4-3.

For a 3-4 it isn't arguable. For a 4-3, Peppers does have a little more speed, although Seymour isn't slow and is better in run support. You can't go wrong with either IMO.

But I'll take Seymour because I'm a fan of the hybrid D.

Seymour can also play anywhere on a 4-3 line, so we can add his versatility to the argument.

 

[-OZ-]

If you are looking at stats to compare defensive linemen you are either too immersed in your IDP league or you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

You might as well make that apply to any defensive player. Sure LBs rack up tackles, they may be the exception, but elite corners don't get thrown on, elite DEs get doubled or tripled at times, elite safeties may roam, but teams can gameplan around them. As a FF site, we often lose touch with the idea that stats are just a by-product of the game. Not the goal.

Of course. It's true with offensive stats as well, but the difference is more pronounced with IDP. The key is knowing how to use the stats, so that you're better off with them, than without them.

True, but if you're just quoting a statline, say 3 tackles, no sacks, it's meaningless unless you put it in context. There's a major difference if you're talking about Dwight Freeney or Kevin Carter, just to use an example.

 

[Chase Stuart]

If you are looking at stats to compare defensive linemen you are either too immersed in your IDP league or you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

You might as well make that apply to any defensive player. Sure LBs rack up tackles, they may be the exception, but elite corners don't get thrown on, elite DEs get doubled or tripled at times, elite safeties may roam, but teams can gameplan around them. As a FF site, we often lose touch with the idea that stats are just a by-product of the game. Not the goal.

Of course. It's true with offensive stats as well, but the difference is more pronounced with IDP. The key is knowing how to use the stats, so that you're better off with them, than without them.

True, but if you're just quoting a statline, say 3 tackles, no sacks, it's meaningless unless you put it in context. There's a major difference if you're talking about Dwight Freeney or Kevin Carter, just to use an example.

I don't think we're really arguing here. Most of us know who the players are and how to use the stats. If you want to say a two-tackle performance by Richard Seymour was dominating, that's fine. I was just poking some fun at jurb. Don't sweat it.

 

[-OZ-]

If you are looking at stats to compare defensive linemen you are either too immersed in your IDP league or you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

You might as well make that apply to any defensive player. Sure LBs rack up tackles, they may be the exception, but elite corners don't get thrown on, elite DEs get doubled or tripled at times, elite safeties may roam, but teams can gameplan around them. As a FF site, we often lose touch with the idea that stats are just a by-product of the game. Not the goal.

Of course. It's true with offensive stats as well, but the difference is more pronounced with IDP. The key is knowing how to use the stats, so that you're better off with them, than without them.

True, but if you're just quoting a statline, say 3 tackles, no sacks, it's meaningless unless you put it in context. There's a major difference if you're talking about Dwight Freeney or Kevin Carter, just to use an example.

I don't think we're really arguing here. Most of us know who the players are and how to use the stats. If you want to say a two-tackle performance by Richard Seymour was dominating, that's fine. I was just poking some fun at jurb. Don't sweat it.

You're right, but I never said or implied any performance to be dominating.

 

[jurb26]

If you are looking at stats to compare defensive linemen you are either too immersed in your IDP league or you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about.

You might as well make that apply to any defensive player. Sure LBs rack up tackles, they may be the exception, but elite corners don't get thrown on, elite DEs get doubled or tripled at times, elite safeties may roam, but teams can gameplan around them. As a FF site, we often lose touch with the idea that stats are just a by-product of the game. Not the goal.

Of course. It's true with offensive stats as well, but the difference is more pronounced with IDP. The key is knowing how to use the stats, so that you're better off with them, than without them.

True, but if you're just quoting a statline, say 3 tackles, no sacks, it's meaningless unless you put it in context. There's a major difference if you're talking about Dwight Freeney or Kevin Carter, just to use an example.

I don't think we're really arguing here. Most of us know who the players are and how to use the stats. If you want to say a two-tackle performance by Richard Seymour was dominating, that's fine. I was just poking some fun at jurb. Don't sweat it.