Peter King Picks PIT To Win Super Bowl (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

I'd forgotten about this until I heard him on ESPN this morning. http://kdka.com/local/Peter.King.prediction.2.1888783.html

He said that the team feels exceptionally good about Roethlisberger. Said of all the teams he visited, he got the best "vibe" from PIT.

Sounded very confident the Steelers would start 2-2.

I know Peter King is a little like Madden in lots of people take shots. But I like him a lot and respect his takes. Wondering how much of this is his real thought and how much is to get us talking about SI.

Thoughts?

J

 

[Hjelle9]

well he picked the bears to at least go last year, joe, what do you think about that pick?

 

[tim_whatley]

I don't even think PIT will make the playoffs.

They are the third best team in their division, plus you have the log jam in the east and the trio in the South (INDY, HOU, TEN).

 

[McBokonon]

I posted this in the Steelers thread a while back. We all had a nice, good laugh and went about our days.

 

[rizzler]

there's a fine line between shock value and stupidity....

 

[LTF]

Don't think it's particularly shocking. If Pittsburgh stays healthy and makes the playoffs I like their chances as much as anyone else, and Roethlisberger has a proven track record of being able to go on the road, play great, and win big playoff games in intense environments. And I can't remember the last time the flavor of the offseason (this year it's particularly the Ravens and Packers) ended up even making or winning the SB.

A month from now half of these preseason projections and assumptions will be completely shattered. Happens every season.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Peter King is a fairly interesting writer and clearly has a lot of contacts in the NFL. He seems well liked around the league.

His actual knowledge and understanding of the NFL seems mediocre at best. His predictions almost always seem awful.

And honestly, I could care less that the team is so excited about Roethlisberger supposedly turning things around and having a better attitude. That offensive line stinks. They're terrible. The defense isn't all that great either. We all know Troy is going to end up hurt at some point and the secondary will be horrific without him. I STILL think they have a shot at winning the division, although I think the Ravens should be the favorite, and that the Steelers have no shot at the Super Bowl, IMO.

 

[CentralPA]

I don't see it right now but I don't think i'd be shocked to see the Steelers make the playoffs. If Polomalu and that defense is still intact they have the firepower to win it all.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

 

[aesclepius]

Couldn't care less about the NFL playoffs. What are they going to do in weeks 15 and 16, against the Jets and Carolina? Don't like that week 15 matchup very much.

 

[HenryMuto]

I also took Mr. King's recomendation on Slaton last year as being the best 1st round value of the draft as I passed up Chris Johnson. That was the 1st and last time I will ever listen to Mr. King.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

 

[Hjelle9]

Teams generally enjoy having QBs that lead them to multiple superbowl victories.

 

[zed2283]

Peter King is a fairly interesting writer and clearly has a lot of contacts in the NFL. He seems well liked around the league.

His actual knowledge and understanding of the NFL seems mediocre at best. His predictions almost always seem awful.

And honestly, I could care less that the team is so excited about Roethlisberger supposedly turning things around and having a better attitude. That offensive line stinks. They're terrible. The defense isn't all that great either. We all know Troy is going to end up hurt at some point and the secondary will be horrific without him. I STILL think they have a shot at winning the division, although I think the Ravens should be the favorite, and that the Steelers have no shot at the Super Bowl, IMO.

This is the thing I can never figure out. How can he have so many "contacts" and spend so much time around the league and still be an idiot?

 

[Godsbrother]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

 

[John 14:6]

I heard that the favorite choices for the Superbowl among "experts" are Green Bay, Baltimore, and the Jets, not necessarily in that order. I doubt any of them make it.

 

[doowain]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

I like "humble Steeler fan". They are as rare (and hard to fathom) as a 3 boobed woman. Seriously....you are sure it's some form of prosthesis, or your buddies are playing a really cruel joke on you.

 

[Jagov]

I expect the Steelers to win the Super Bowl EVERY year!

This says is ALL

 

[Godsbrother]

I like "humble Steeler fan". They are as rare (and hard to fathom) as a 3 boobed woman. Seriously....you are sure it's some form of prosthesis, or your buddies are playing a really cruel joke on you.

The Bengals have a good defense and running game which is usually the basis of a strong team. Add to that a solid quarterback and nice stable of WRs and there is no reason they shouldn't make the playoffs. However they are not without faults and they have a tough schedule.I am not conceeding anything and neither will the Steelers and Ravens. If the Bengals win the division they are going to have to earn it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

This was the kind of thing I was getting at with the "homers - what things do the national media get wrong" thread. I'd agree that the perception is that his team mates / WRs don't think much of him. From the newsclips, I think Hines Ward gives that perception. Like when he called out Roethlisberger last year for not playing hurt in the game and later said the locker room was 50-50 in support of Roethlisberger. Do you think that's an inaccurate perception?J

 

[notdarkyet]

I like his MMQB stuff, but he really has no clue on football.

 

[Godsbrother]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

This was the kind of thing I was getting at with the "homers - what things do the national media get wrong" thread. I'd agree that the perception is that his team mates / WRs don't think much of him. From the newsclips, I think Hines Ward gives that perception. Like when he called out Roethlisberger last year for not playing hurt in the game and later said the locker room was 50-50 in support of Roethlisberger. Do you think that's an inaccurate perception?J

That was a situation where the Steelers badly needed a victory during the playoff run and the team was facing the Ravens with Dennis Dixon at the helm. Ward was saying the team was 50-50 split on whether or not Roethlisberger should play with a concussion ( it was not on whether or not the team liked him personally).Ward later backtracked when he found out that the team neurosurgeon recommended that Roethlisberger sit out against the Ravens because he was having headaches after exercising and when he found out that Roethlisberger had lobbied Coach Mike Tomlin to play but was told no.

Really in that particular situation Ward was the one that came out looking like a jackass.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Peter King is a fairly interesting writer and clearly has a lot of contacts in the NFL. He seems well liked around the league.

His actual knowledge and understanding of the NFL seems mediocre at best. His predictions almost always seem awful.

And honestly, I could care less that the team is so excited about Roethlisberger supposedly turning things around and having a better attitude. That offensive line stinks. They're terrible. The defense isn't all that great either. We all know Troy is going to end up hurt at some point and the secondary will be horrific without him. I STILL think they have a shot at winning the division, although I think the Ravens should be the favorite, and that the Steelers have no shot at the Super Bowl, IMO.

This is the thing I can never figure out. How can he have so many "contacts" and spend so much time around the league and still be an idiot?

Well if he picked NO, IND, DAL, BAL, NYJ, GB - would we even have a thread about him? He knows what he's doing.

 

[msommer]

The kiss of death. Remember Danny Wuerffel.

 

[r3t2]

well, they were 9-7 last year and lost five games by 3 points (2 in OT), one by 6 and one by 7. and if i recall correctly they blew leads in 6 of the 7 losses, several in the last couple of minutes. the defense really let them down in the second half of the season when troy and aaron smith were out. and they gave up KR TDs in 4 straight games. that catches up with you.

so if we project no major injuries, and it often does come down to just that, i dont see why this team could not end up in the super bowl. i wouldnt expect it, but it's not crazy. and everyone i talk to in town expects them to make the playoffs. where people get the notion that this team is below average is beyond me.

and in case anyone hasnt noticed, pouncey will be in the pro bowl sooner rather than later. that kid is taking on NTs solo and then moving to the second level to hammer someone else. i might have to get a #53 jersey. that should help the terrible O-Line.

peter king does seem to be obtuse about a lot of things though. but he writes a very readable column, and i thank him for it.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

Well, the players may love him but Steeler fans sure don't at least not on these boards. I can dig up tons of negative posts about Ben and wanting to trade him for what he did. Just win another SB for me Ben, all is forgotten.

 

[The Moz]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

This was the kind of thing I was getting at with the "homers - what things do the national media get wrong" thread. I'd agree that the perception is that his team mates / WRs don't think much of him. From the newsclips, I think Hines Ward gives that perception. Like when he called out Roethlisberger last year for not playing hurt in the game and later said the locker room was 50-50 in support of Roethlisberger. Do you think that's an inaccurate perception?J

Hines I think said as much -- that Ben has finally grown up and isn't acting like a cocky kid anymore. I think things have changed.as for Pit making the superbowl let's look at it.

QB - a more mature Ben ( who is already a 2 time winner )

RB - Mendy is better than Parker ever was IMO - Parker blew up on bad teams an dissapeared against good teams.

WR - Hines is older yes but Wallace is looking good an Miller coming off his best season. The loss of Holmes won't even get noticed

Defense - a ton better with one of the best defenders in football back in Troy and Smith

In the AFC there is Jets , Pats , Colts , and Steelers that will contend. Sorry not buying Ravens hype.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The kiss of death. Remember Danny Wuerffel.

Peter King is a horrible picker. I don't even believe he thinks the Steelers will win the Sb. If you put a gun to his head and said pick the SB winner or you're dead, I doubt he picks the Steelers.

 

[Novice2]

Slaton will be the steal of your 2009 fantasy draft.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Peter King has the ability to report what happened. Maybe one day he'll come close to figuring out why things happen.

 

[Godsbrother]

Well, the players may love him but Steeler fans sure don't at least not on these boards. I can dig up tons of negative posts about Ben and wanting to trade him for what he did. Just win another SB for me Ben, all is forgotten.

You are correct, there are a lot of fans that are pissed at Roethlisberger and many he will never win back. However he received a very warm reception from fans during training camp and at the final preseason game at Heinz. I was actually quite surprised at the number of #7 jerseys worn in the crowd.But whether the fans accept or boo him doesn't matter. The key to the Steelers season is a healthy defense and for the offense to do just enough to stay afloat in the first four games. If the Steelers can manage 2-2 or better then they have good shot at the playoffs. If they start 1-3 it will be very tough and a 0-4 start makes it darn near impossible.

 

[dcgangstas]

The kiss of death. Remember Danny Wuerffel.

This. King predicted Wuerffel would pass to 3700 yards and 30 TDs. You can't take this guy seriously.

 

[Godsbrother]

The kiss of death. Remember Danny Wuerffel.

This. King predicted Wuerffel would pass to 3700 yards and 30 TDs. You can't take this guy seriously.

Well to be fair to King, Wuerffel did go to win the MVP award in World Bowl 2000 while playing for Rhein Fire in NFL Europa.

 

[SYMPHONY X]

Well, the players may love him but Steeler fans sure don't at least not on these boards. I can dig up tons of negative posts about Ben and wanting to trade him for what he did. Just win another SB for me Ben, all is forgotten.

You are correct, there are a lot of fans that are pissed at Roethlisberger and many he will never win back. However he received a very warm reception from fans during training camp and at the final preseason game at Heinz. I was actually quite surprised at the number of #7 jerseys worn in the crowd.But whether the fans accept or boo him doesn't matter. The key to the Steelers season is a healthy defense and for the offense to do just enough to stay afloat in the first four games. If the Steelers can manage 2-2 or better then they have good shot at the playoffs. If they start 1-3 it will be very tough and a 0-4 start makes it darn near impossible.

Interesting how you made a point about the number of fans wearing Ben's jersey at the game. I live in Denver, but didn't go see the Steelers in their 3rd preseason game (I was out of town), but if I would have gone I would not have wore my #7 jersey (some of it due to my personal feelings about him now). I wore his jersey to last year's regular season game, and got heckled a bit, but most of it was good-natured. The heckling would have been brutal this time around, mostly ill-natured and directly personally at Ben, and I would have actually felt a little embarrassed wearing the jersey. Can't imagine that too many Steeler fans will be sporting #7 jerseys at road games this year. About Peter King's prediction..I don't see how anyone could totally disagree with him. The Steelers seem to play better in the underdog role. As others have already pointed out, the Steelers D will be back to full-strength this year. This will keep most of their games close well into the 4th QTR again. The O-line will be improved. All the pieces are in place for a run at, ironically, Lombardi trophy #7. I agree with God's Brother that a 2-2 start gives them a very good shot at the playoffs. Once there, Big Ben has already proved to us what he can do.

 

[Ghost Rider]

RB - Mendy is better than Parker ever was IMO - Parker blew up on bad teams an dissapeared against good teams.

No way. Parker was awfully good for a few years there; three consecutive seasons of 1,200+ rushing yards is nothing to sneeze at, and let's not forget his long TD run in the Super Bowl. Mendenhall isn't there yet.

 

[McBokonon]

Jason Whitlock also picked them to win the Super Bowl. Even Bill Simmons picked them to get one of the byes. The media's trying to make me talk myself into them.

 

[Rovers]

I don't know if King could pick a booger that was sitting at the outermost protusion of his proboscus.

He offers some good insights into team goings on however. It's nice that the players are looking forward to Roth's return, and why wouldn't they? Dixon? Batch?

 

[nysportsfan]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.J

Why wasn't he voted captain?

 

[Godsbrother]

I don't know if King could pick a booger that was sitting at the outermost protusion of his proboscus.

He offers some good insights into team goings on however. It's nice that the players are looking forward to Roth's return, and why wouldn't they? Dixon? Batch?

A lot of people seem to forget the Steelers are down to their 3rd & 4th QB but the players sure don't. Getting off to a 2-2 record is not going to be easy.

 

[Godsbrother]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.J

Why wasn't he voted captain?

We talked about this at great length in another thread. The main reason is because on the Steelers the captains act as liaisons between the team and the coaches. A suspended player would have a hard time serving this role since they aren't allowed to go to games, attend meetings or be at team facilities.

 

[QuizGuy66]

This is the thing I can never figure out. How can he have so many "contacts" and spend so much time around the league and still be an idiot?

Yeah, as a Bengals fan I cannot imagine anyone in football spending their whole life in the game and ...oh wait...Anyhow, as a Bengals fan this news is pleasing to me given King's track record.Of course he'd pick the Bengals to win the Super Bowl around the time I'd pick the Steelers to do same.-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

The kiss of death. Remember Danny Wuerffel.

This. King predicted Wuerffel would pass to 3700 yards and 30 TDs. You can't take this guy seriously.

Well to be fair to King, Wuerffel did go to win the MVP award in World Bowl 2000 while playing for Rhein Fire in NFL Europa.

Yep, NFL and WLAF combined: 37 TDs, 4165 yards. One point for Peter King. -QG

 

[Tanner9919]

The thing I took away from it wasn't really so much about winning the Super Bowl. That's kind of a crazy shot in the dark exercise we want all our sports radio guys to do in September. What I took away was his talk about how much the team was for Roethlisberger and how much the WRs loved him. That was a little bit of news to me in how I'd been seeing it. Interesting.

J

While I think that Peter King is nuts for picking the Steelers to win the Super Bowl the bolded part does not come as a surprise to me. A lot of FBGs have this idea that Roethlisberger is universally hated by his teammates and it isn't true. The fact that he was knocked down to earth, apologized to the team and has made much more of an effort to be approachable during camp and preseason has meant a lot to his teammates. A sports team is a lot like a family and if your brother screws up and then starts to turn himself around you are going to be pulling for him.

The chemistry in the locker room is the least of the Steelers problems. Their biggest concerns are the Cincinnati Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

This was the kind of thing I was getting at with the "homers - what things do the national media get wrong" thread. I'd agree that the perception is that his team mates / WRs don't think much of him. From the newsclips, I think Hines Ward gives that perception. Like when he called out Roethlisberger last year for not playing hurt in the game and later said the locker room was 50-50 in support of Roethlisberger. Do you think that's an inaccurate perception?J

Hines I think said as much -- that Ben has finally grown up and isn't acting like a cocky kid anymore. I think things have changed.as for Pit making the superbowl let's look at it.

QB - a more mature Ben ( who is already a 2 time winner )

RB - Mendy is better than Parker ever was IMO - Parker blew up on bad teams an dissapeared against good teams.

WR - Hines is older yes but Wallace is looking good an Miller coming off his best season. The loss of Holmes won't even get noticed

Defense - a ton better with one of the best defenders in football back in Troy and Smith

In the AFC there is Jets , Pats , Colts , and Steelers that will contend. Sorry not buying Ravens hype.

Not buying Jets hype, nor Patriots with all the Moss and Brady love, their defense is lousy and BB hasn't been the same since the defeat in the SB...Colts won't get back to the game, rarely do the SB teams from the previous season go back to the big game the following season...

I'd put SD and Pitt on the list for the AFC, perhaps Houston if they ever find quality RB play AND a solid defense..maybe,just maybe , Cincy slips into the big game

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Peter King has the ability to report what happened. Maybe one day he'll come close to figuring out why things happen.

 

[Doug B]

Has any national prognosticator EVER correctly picked the Super Bowl champ before the season? Getting tabbed by big names like King or Dr. Z is the kiss of death.

 

[Breesisdaman]

King is a tool. Although he did write my Sig.

 

[zed2283]

Has any national prognosticator EVER correctly picked the Super Bowl champ before the season? Getting tabbed by big names like King or Dr. Z is the kiss of death.

Someone on this board did just last year.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

King gets ripped pretty hard here, and elsewhere (I do it myself). At the risk of stating the obvious, however, he has to have one of the greatest jobs in the world of sports media and probably one that everyone of us would love to have. The thing many probably don't realize or acknowledge is how hard he has worked over the past several decades to get where he is and the undoubtedly tremendous sacrifices he has made. They don't just give away jobs like the one Peter King has to anyone. This guy does nothing but cover professional football year round, and seems to have unprecedented access to NFL players, coaches and management upon request. What's more, he is paid to essentially pontificate in print and on television - basically spewing his thoughts and subjective opinions, rather than actual hard reporting (of which he does some, but in seemingly decreasing amounts with each passing year).

Agree completely that any prediction he makes (especially when he discusses fantasy performance) have essentially no value whatsoever, but let's not kid ourselves. Just by continuing to read King, we are paying him the highest complement a media consumer can give. As one of my favorite Packer beat writers (now retired) used to say (paraphrasing), "You don't have to agree with me and you don't have to like me, as long as you keep reading my column."

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Peter King is a fairly interesting writer and clearly has a lot of contacts in the NFL. He seems well liked around the league. His actual knowledge and understanding of the NFL seems mediocre at best. His predictions almost always seem awful.

:IBTL: I read MMQB every week because it's entertaining, but I don't have a lot of respect for King's knowledge of the game.

 

[Doug B]

Has any national prognosticator EVER correctly picked the Super Bowl champ before the season? Getting tabbed by big names like King or Dr. Z is the kiss of death.

Someone on this board did just last year.

Yeah ... but among the national writers, ESPN talking heads, etc. The major sports media seems to get it very wrong all the time.