Peyton Manning throwing passes? (1 Viewer)

[identikit]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wOWznWw9ges

 

[BigSteelThrill]

 

[Riversco]

I'm not sure that's him. I don't see him waving his arms wildly and pointing everywhere prior to the snap.

 

[cobalt_27]

That's awesome.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

U can tell by the footwork its him

 

[KCitons]

Wow, really? I hope this is meant as a joke. As if there isn't enough misinformation out there about Manning already. Now someone claims to have video? First off, I doubt Manning is going to be throwing in his helmet and shoulder pads? I agree this is at Duke, but isn't it odd that the video is taken from miles away and just shows someone throwing in a Blue and White uniform, the same Blue and White colors of Duke?

 

[cobalt_27]

Wow, really? I hope this is meant as a joke. As if there isn't enough misinformation out there about Manning already. Now someone claims to have video? First off, I doubt Manning is going to be throwing in his helmet and shoulder pads? I agree this is at Duke, but isn't it odd that the video is taken from miles away and just shows someone throwing in a Blue and White uniform, the same Blue and White colors of Duke?

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

 

[BigGDan]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.

Try again.

 

[BigGDan]

Check out this highlight video of Manning - the first throw (start at 10 seconds) clearly shows his mechanics (which are very consistent). The ball is up by his face and he keeps it up there through his release. The dude on that video keeps the ball down by his waste. Not Manning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7eH9tB5Ac

 

[Buck Stop]

that IS Manning.

 

[BigGDan]

that IS Manning.

Why are you so sure when his mechanics show nothing of the sort?

 

[identikit]

@AdamSchefter



Colts teammates Dallas Clark and Austin Collie, and former teammate Brandon Stokley, have worked out in Durham, NC with Peyton Manning.

 

[pghrob]

@AdamSchefter



Colts teammates Dallas Clark and Austin Collie, and former teammate Brandon Stokley, have worked out in Durham, NC with Peyton Manning.

Interesting that Colts receivers are working with Manning. This has to make things tough on Irsay, as it shows the team solidarity with their field general. If Manning can recover and be cleared to play, would Colts draft Luck and sit him or trade #1 overall pick for other draft picks to address other team needs? What team would even have what it takes to move into #1 overall slot?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Great timing by manning to have this video out to the public.

irsay looks like a fool letting him leave for nothing. can't wait for the free agent bonanza.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Where have u been for the pat several months where its widely known manning would be relearning how to throw the football to some capacity. Weinke went thru this where he had to retrain to get his motion back b/c of the atrophy and some mechanics would be forever changed b/c more of the focus on upper arm muscles and grip. As stated........ the footwork and happy feet are vintage manning. His mechanics may never be what they were..........doesn't mean he can't or won't be as effective however since he still has his blessed football mind and IQ

 

[KCitons]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence. Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

 

[Touchdown There]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence.

Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

You're using Occam's Razor to prove that this is a Duke QB? Wow. I think you and BigGayAl need to do some private chat, because that is nonsense.NFL.com is reporting Manning's throwing session as legitimate. The guy in the video is wearing a Colt's helmet. There are numerous independent reports that Peyton is in North Carolina with Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Stokley.

Let's have some common sense here people. Peyton Manning is playing in 2012. He is not retiring. His arm is fine and it is only March.

 

[GregR]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence. Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

It really doesn't matter whether it's him or not. There isn't enough there for anyone to make any kind of meaningful judgment from. If it is him it's probably leaked intentionally (which could be exactly how it could be independently confirmed) to create some hype without supplying any substance that could be negative. So why care.

 

[Sea Duck]

Foot shuffle is the same but the arm motion looks different.

 

[Sea Duck]

You're using Occam's Razor to prove that this is a Duke QB? Wow. I think you and BigGayAl need to do some private chat, because that is nonsense.

NFL.com is reporting Manning's throwing session as legitimate. The guy in the video is wearing a Colt's helmet. There are numerous independent reports that Peyton is in North Carolina with Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Stokley.

Let's have some common sense here people. Peyton Manning is playing in 2012. He is not retiring. His arm is fine and it is only March.

And the fact that it's a Colts helmet proves it was Manning? Why would he be wearing a helmet at all?

 

[identikit]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8275b9b7/article/manning-has-throwing-session-at-duke-university

 

[cobalt_27]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence. Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

It really doesn't matter whether it's him or not. There isn't enough there for anyone to make any kind of meaningful judgment from. If it is him it's probably leaked intentionally (which could be exactly how it could be independently confirmed) to create some hype without supplying any substance that could be negative. So why care.

Well, it does matter, for one. It was alleged a few months ago that Peyton couldn't throw a sideline out pattern to his left. Clearly, if this is Peyton, this is evidence of improvement. It's certainly possible that it is not Peyton. I'm feeling the most parsimonious explanation is that it is Peyton, given that it's Mort, and he stands by it. But, Mort is not infallible, so it's certainly conceivable this is some other dude out there wearing #18. I just think it makes more sense that it is him, and the conspiracy theorists are just having fun with an active imagination.

 

[GregR]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence. Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

It really doesn't matter whether it's him or not. There isn't enough there for anyone to make any kind of meaningful judgment from. If it is him it's probably leaked intentionally (which could be exactly how it could be independently confirmed) to create some hype without supplying any substance that could be negative. So why care.

Well, it does matter, for one. It was alleged a few months ago that Peyton couldn't throw a sideline out pattern to his left. Clearly, if this is Peyton, this is evidence of improvement. It's certainly possible that it is not Peyton. I'm feeling the most parsimonious explanation is that it is Peyton, given that it's Mort, and he stands by it. But, Mort is not infallible, so it's certainly conceivable this is some other dude out there wearing #18. I just think it makes more sense that it is him, and the conspiracy theorists are just having fun with an active imagination.

I really don't think it shows that. It wasn't that Peyton couldn't throw left, it was that he wasn't throwing it well (with enough velocity). If that were still the case, surely they could find one throw that looked better than the rest to stick in this video. Hence not enough there anyone should try to make any judgments from. For all we know these are the only three decent looking throws he had the entire workout.But for those invested anyway, Albert Breer is also confirming a source that it is Peyton.

 

[KCitons]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence.

Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

You're using Occam's Razor to prove that this is a Duke QB? Wow. I think you and BigGayAl need to do some private chat, because that is nonsense.NFL.com is reporting Manning's throwing session as legitimate. The guy in the video is wearing a Colt's helmet. There are numerous independent reports that Peyton is in North Carolina with Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Stokley.

Let's have some common sense here people. Peyton Manning is playing in 2012. He is not retiring. His arm is fine and it is only March.

I thought I was using common sense and taking this info with a grain of salt. Come on wasn't it just last month that information was released too early on the death of JoPa. Everyone in the media is in a rush to get a "scoop". That's my reason to proceed with caution. As someone else pointed out, did Peyton only throw 3 passes during this session? Why was this film edited and shows 3 different angles? To say his arm is fine, based on this video is a bit of a over statement.

FWIW, I don't know who BigGayAl is. But if your implying something, then you are the nonsensical one. Grow up.

 

[SacramentoBob]

This player has the ball down by his waste.

I'd hate to be his WR.

 

[Warhogs]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Note to self. Ignore any personal guarantees by BigGayDan. OK, carry on...

 

[GregR]

This player has the ball down by his waste.

I'd hate to be his WR.

 

[SacramentoBob]

T.O. should go down there and work out with Peyton. It'd be his best chance to get a shot at the NFL.

 

[Touchdown There]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence.

Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

You're using Occam's Razor to prove that this is a Duke QB? Wow. I think you and BigGayAl need to do some private chat, because that is nonsense.NFL.com is reporting Manning's throwing session as legitimate. The guy in the video is wearing a Colt's helmet. There are numerous independent reports that Peyton is in North Carolina with Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Stokley.

Let's have some common sense here people. Peyton Manning is playing in 2012. He is not retiring. His arm is fine and it is only March.

I thought I was using common sense and taking this info with a grain of salt. Come on wasn't it just last month that information was released too early on the death of JoPa. Everyone in the media is in a rush to get a "scoop". That's my reason to proceed with caution. As someone else pointed out, did Peyton only throw 3 passes during this session? Why was this film edited and shows 3 different angles? To say his arm is fine, based on this video is a bit of a over statement.

FWIW, I don't know who BigGayAl is. But if your implying something, then you are the nonsensical one. Grow up.

I am not implying anything. I am telling you that you are rumor mongering along with a small percentage of people that do not think Peyton Manning will ever play again. I am telling you that Occam's Razor proves the exact OPPOSITE of what you wrote. It makes sense, given all the available information, that this is Peyton Manning.Also, if you do not understand my pun, I am not going to explain it to you. Use Google.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

:skeptical:

Manning benefits from having video leaked of him throwing the ball.. If this is him, and he has recovered, his agent would have a clear view workout with invited media.. Indisputable footage of him would be putting money in his pocket..

This doesn't make sense.

 

[KCitons]

For what it's worth, Chris Mortensen reported that it has been independently verified that the video is authentic.

Mort is usually pretty reliable, but nobody's perfect.I'm still skeptical. The first throw looks like the cameraman was on the field and within 15-20 yards of the thrower. But, the last part looks like it was taken through a hole in the fence.

Usually, the most obvious answer is the correct answer. Would it be so difficult to believe that this is a Duke QB throwing passes?

You're using Occam's Razor to prove that this is a Duke QB? Wow. I think you and BigGayAl need to do some private chat, because that is nonsense.NFL.com is reporting Manning's throwing session as legitimate. The guy in the video is wearing a Colt's helmet. There are numerous independent reports that Peyton is in North Carolina with Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Stokley.

Let's have some common sense here people. Peyton Manning is playing in 2012. He is not retiring. His arm is fine and it is only March.

I thought I was using common sense and taking this info with a grain of salt. Come on wasn't it just last month that information was released too early on the death of JoPa. Everyone in the media is in a rush to get a "scoop". That's my reason to proceed with caution. As someone else pointed out, did Peyton only throw 3 passes during this session? Why was this film edited and shows 3 different angles? To say his arm is fine, based on this video is a bit of a over statement.

FWIW, I don't know who BigGayAl is. But if your implying something, then you are the nonsensical one. Grow up.

I am not implying anything. I am telling you that you are rumor mongering along with a small percentage of people that do not think Peyton Manning will ever play again. I am telling you that Occam's Razor proves the exact OPPOSITE of what you wrote. It makes sense, given all the available information, that this is Peyton Manning.Also, if you do not understand my pun, I am not going to explain it to you. Use Google.

Rumor mongering?? Isn't that what this entire incident is about? And this whole thread? (not to mention 90% of the threads here) Rumors. If Manning wanted to be filmed throwing passes, the line of media people would be around the block waiting to get in. I suspect he could even take on sponsors and have a prime time audience, just like Tiger Woods golf challenges of a few years ago and Lebron's decision on playing for the Heat. Why such secrecy with Manning passing? Why such a crappy picture from so far away? If a guy is that close with the camera, you would think there could be some better footage.

But, if you insist that it's completely credible, then you must also believe that the Bigfoot footage is real also. After all, there is video of a big hairy thing walking through the woods, and plenty of "experts" trying to tell you Bigfoot is real.

Still don't understand the reference to BigGayAl. And how it applies to me. If it's an attempt at humor, then so be it.

 

[BigGDan]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Note to self. Ignore any personal guarantees by BigGayDan. OK, carry on...

Why is that? Can you not tell the difference in mechanics between the guy on the video and Peyton Manning. I just want a valid argument on why my assessment is wrong.

 

[Touchdown There]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Note to self. Ignore any personal guarantees by BigGayDan. OK, carry on...

Why is that? Can you not tell the difference in mechanics between the guy on the video and Peyton Manning. I just want a valid argument on why my assessment is wrong.

Your assessment is an opinion and it is very clear that your opinion cannot be swayed. Let's agree to disagree here.

 

[BigGDan]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Note to self. Ignore any personal guarantees by BigGayDan. OK, carry on...

Why is that? Can you not tell the difference in mechanics between the guy on the video and Peyton Manning. I just want a valid argument on why my assessment is wrong.

Your assessment is an opinion and it is very clear that your opinion cannot be swayed. Let's agree to disagree here.

My opinion can be swayed. Let's first admit that the video is less than ample to do an accurate assessment. But from what little I can see on the video, the QB throwing appears to have the ball pretty low. I've always admired how Manning keeps the ball face high, ready to unload at any moment. So I guess for me, it stands out more since I've always been aware of his technique. But again, if we're being fair here, the video isn't sufficient enough for anyone to make a definitive call. That's why I said "nearly guarantee". Maybe I was being too confident based on the less than stellar video footage but at the same time, I'd like to know the rationale of people who are just as certain that it IS Peyton. I've given my reasons for thinking it's not him.

 

[Touchdown There]

I can nearly guarantee that is NOT Manning. If you've watched Manning enough, you'll notice his throwing motion is much different than the player in the video. Manning holds the ball up by his ear before his release. This player has the ball down by his waste. Manning's mechanics are flawless while this yahoo (whoever it is) has nowhere close to the pristine mechanics of Manning.Try again.

Note to self. Ignore any personal guarantees by BigGayDan. OK, carry on...

Why is that? Can you not tell the difference in mechanics between the guy on the video and Peyton Manning. I just want a valid argument on why my assessment is wrong.

Your assessment is an opinion and it is very clear that your opinion cannot be swayed. Let's agree to disagree here.

My opinion can be swayed. Let's first admit that the video is less than ample to do an accurate assessment. But from what little I can see on the video, the QB throwing appears to have the ball pretty low. I've always admired how Manning keeps the ball face high, ready to unload at any moment. So I guess for me, it stands out more since I've always been aware of his technique. But again, if we're being fair here, the video isn't sufficient enough for anyone to make a definitive call. That's why I said "nearly guarantee". Maybe I was being too confident based on the less than stellar video footage but at the same time, I'd like to know the rationale of people who are just as certain that it IS Peyton. I've given my reasons for thinking it's not him.

I only jumped in here to do a fishing trip deflection for Warhogs. Read some of the Peyton Manning news on the day. If you still think this is a Duke QB youtube hoax, then so be it.

 

[Buck Stop]

when you see Manning and a few of his teammates in the stands for the Duke game tonight, then will you believe that was him?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Looked exactly like him to me. BigGayDan needs to watch more football.

 

[yankdog]

This player has the ball down by his waste.

I'd hate to be his WR.

 

[Bayhawks]

Check out this highlight video of Manning - the first throw (start at 10 seconds) clearly shows his mechanics (which are very consistent). The ball is up by his face and he keeps it up there through his release. The dude on that video keeps the ball down by his waste. Not Manning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7eH9tB5Ac

OK-I watched the whole video. Manning holds the ball up near the top of his chest, (but I won't disagree with you saying face, since it's near his chin). That is not "up by his ear before his release," as you claimed in your first post. You're already back-tracking off that one, so that's OK.But, in the video you posted, there's not a single full-screen look at Manning taking his drop, and where the ball is. All of the shots show him in the middle of the throwing motion. The one you mentioned (the 10 second mark) shows him face only, and it's in slow-motion, so you can't tell where he is in the motion.

This link is better.

Manning highlights

At about 47 seconds, (against NE), you see Manning at the top of his drop, after running a play action fake, and he has the ball in the middle of his chest, blocking out his number.

Re-watch the original video. He throws 3 passes in it. The first and third are from back-side views, but he appears to have the ball in the middle of this torso (not his "waste"). The second is a front-side view, and he clearly is holding the ball right in front of his chest (10 seconds in).

 

[Riversco]

This player has the ball down by his waste.

I'd hate to be his WR.

He must be practicing his pump and dump.

 

[NBusiness]

when you see Manning and a few of his teammates in the stands for the Duke game tonight, then will you believe that was him?

Ya they showed a shot of him in the crowd tonight at the game . On top of that , the way his right foot sticks out on his follow through is 100% him.

 

[BigGDan]

Check out this highlight video of Manning - the first throw (start at 10 seconds) clearly shows his mechanics (which are very consistent). The ball is up by his face and he keeps it up there through his release. The dude on that video keeps the ball down by his waste. Not Manning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7eH9tB5Ac

OK-I watched the whole video. Manning holds the ball up near the top of his chest, (but I won't disagree with you saying face, since it's near his chin). That is not "up by his ear before his release," as you claimed in your first post. You're already back-tracking off that one, so that's OK.But, in the video you posted, there's not a single full-screen look at Manning taking his drop, and where the ball is. All of the shots show him in the middle of the throwing motion. The one you mentioned (the 10 second mark) shows him face only, and it's in slow-motion, so you can't tell where he is in the motion.

This link is better.

Manning highlights

At about 47 seconds, (against NE), you see Manning at the top of his drop, after running a play action fake, and he has the ball in the middle of his chest, blocking out his number.

Re-watch the original video. He throws 3 passes in it. The first and third are from back-side views, but he appears to have the ball in the middle of this torso (not his "waste"). The second is a front-side view, and he clearly is holding the ball right in front of his chest (10 seconds in).

Nice work. You might have swayed me a little bit but the original video is still too limiting to make a definitive case either way. At least you attempted to validate your stance with empirical unlike some others.

 

[Bri]

:skeptical:Manning benefits from having video leaked of him throwing the ball.. If this is him, and he has recovered, his agent would have a clear view workout with invited media.. Indisputable footage of him would be putting money in his pocket..This doesn't make sense.

Manning has always been odd with the press though, always about what one would expect but yet not quite 100% what one would expect. Everything but the agent calling a party seems about right for Manning IMO

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I'm still not sure why it matters either way. This doesn't prove anything except Manning (assuming it's him) can throw a football-- not in a game setting, not under pressure, not moving around while reading a defense, not off his back foot and not in traffic.

He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season. Not one sack away...one hit away. I have no idea why any team would want a part of that.

I'm not surprised Colts players would practice with him. Even if he's on his way out they're still friends and I'm sure they want to support his comeback with a different team.

Football-wise I don't care about him one way or the other. But as a person I hope whatever he does, he comes out of it healthy. I know athletes have a hard time letting go, but I think fusing vertebrae is a pretty good reason to hang it up.

More on topic: The footwork definitely looks like Peyton. I don't know enough about the upper body mechanics to say...but it would make sense that he'd try a new style to accommodate the healing process or pain or areas to protect.

 

[Bayhawks]

He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season. Not one sack away...one hit away. I have no idea why any team would want a part of that.

This is no more true for Manning than any other NFL player. From what I understand, his neck is fully healed, all that they have been waiting on is for the strength to return in his triceps and grip.

If this video (& any subsequent tests/workouts, etc) demonstrates that his strength has returned, he is no more at risk for injury than any NFL football player is. If you have any information to the contrary (real information, mind you, not some reporter's guess, or a Dr. who has no actual link to Manning or his case), please share it. Otherwise, please don't spread baseless rumors.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

I'm still not sure why it matters either way. This doesn't prove anything except Manning (assuming it's him) can throw a football-- not in a game setting, not under pressure, not moving around while reading a defense, not off his back foot and not in traffic.

He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season. Not one sack away...one hit away. I have no idea why any team would want a part of that.

I'm not surprised Colts players would practice with him. Even if he's on his way out they're still friends and I'm sure they want to support his comeback with a different team.

Football-wise I don't care about him one way or the other. But as a person I hope whatever he does, he comes out of it healthy. I know athletes have a hard time letting go, but I think fusing vertebrae is a pretty good reason to hang it up.

More on topic: The footwork definitely looks like Peyton. I don't know enough about the upper body mechanics to say...but it would make sense that he'd try a new style to accommodate the healing process or pain or areas to protect.

I keep hearing "he's 1 hit away" like he's any different than any other player. The skepticism isn't coming from any doctor reports. They all say he's 100% structurally sound any worry is more the uncertainty on his nerve regeneration. Weinke( however much a scrub and younger at the time) had a lengthy career afterwards. Peyton has had a few more procedures and is older but science/medicine improves as well.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season. Not one sack away...one hit away. I have no idea why any team would want a part of that.

This is no more true for Manning than any other NFL player. From what I understand, his neck is fully healed, all that they have been waiting on is for the strength to return in his triceps and grip.

If this video (& any subsequent tests/workouts, etc) demonstrates that his strength has returned, he is no more at risk for injury than any NFL football player is. If you have any information to the contrary (real information, mind you, not some reporter's guess, or a Dr. who has no actual link to Manning or his case), please share it. Otherwise, please don't spread baseless rumors.

I do not believe that, after two neck surgeries where vertebrae are fused, that throwing passes means he's all of a sudden no more likely to get injured than any other NFL player. I think you might want to reconsider your definition of a "rumor." How could there be a rumor of what would happen in a future hypothetical circumstance that could be proven or disproven by "real information" from Internet links? If you mean I'm speculating and to leave my opinion out of my posts, I appreciate your suggestion and respectfully decline.

Again, I do not know why any team would take that kind of risk with their franchise for a guy with maybe a couple years left...and possibly less than a season.

 

[Sea Duck]

From what I understand, his neck is fully healed, all that they have been waiting on is for the strength to return in his triceps and grip.

You understand incorrectly. It's not just a matter of "strength to return"; it's also a matter of nerves literally regenerating. link

Otherwise, please don't spread baseless rumors.

Dude, seriously.

 

[Bayhawks]

He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season. Not one sack away...one hit away. I have no idea why any team would want a part of that.

This is no more true for Manning than any other NFL player. From what I understand, his neck is fully healed, all that they have been waiting on is for the strength to return in his triceps and grip.

If this video (& any subsequent tests/workouts, etc) demonstrates that his strength has returned, he is no more at risk for injury than any NFL football player is. If you have any information to the contrary (real information, mind you, not some reporter's guess, or a Dr. who has no actual link to Manning or his case), please share it. Otherwise, please don't spread baseless rumors.

I do not believe that, after two neck surgeries where vertebrae are fused, that throwing passes means he's all of a sudden no more likely to get injured than any other NFL player. I think you might want to reconsider your definition of a "rumor." How could there be a rumor of what would happen in a future hypothetical circumstance that could be proven or disproven by "real information" from Internet links? If you mean I'm speculating and to leave my opinion out of my posts, I appreciate your suggestion and respectfully decline.

Again, I do not know why any team would take that kind of risk with their franchise for a guy with maybe a couple years left...and possibly less than a season.

Fair enough, but stating "He's one hit away from a team of doctors playing it safe and shutting him down for the season" without any medical backing to that statement is, IMO, starting your opinion as fact(without any basis). Maybe try to make it clear when you post your opinion versus facts.

 

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From what I understand, his neck is fully healed, all that they have been waiting on is for the strength to return in his triceps and grip.

You understand incorrectly. It's not just a matter of "strength to return"; it's also a matter of nerves literally regenerating. link

No, I don't. You posted a link from January, with quotes from Doctors WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN MET Manning. What you posted is rumor and speculation. Here's a fact: In February, Peyton Manning's doctors, WHO ACTUALLY WORKED ON HIS CASE, AND HAVE PERSONALLY EVALUATED HIM, said his neck is healed: the fusion has achieved "firm fixation." LINK

So, which is more reliable: two doctors who have been completely involved with Manning's injury and recovery, or a doctor who has never even looked at Manning's neck, or his medical file? Hmmm..tough one.