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TommyKramer

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PACKERS TALKING TRADE WITH VIKINGS?

Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2008, 11:54 p.m.

With the Green Bay Packers putting out the word that they’re prepared to welcome back quarterback Brett Favre, now comes a report that the Packers recently opened talks with the Vikings regarding a possible trade of the veteran signal-caller.

Per Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, an unnamed source says that the Packers called the Vikings on Friday to inform that Favre is available.

The story was/is that if Favre reported for Packers training camp, the team would potentially trade him within the NFC North division.

However, the Vikings remain convinced that the Packers don’t want Favre, despite Sunday’s statement from team president Mark Murphy, who strongly suggested that the welcome mat has been rolled out for Favre.

And the Vikings clearly seem to be Favre’s first choice. “The Bears say they’re not interested,” the source told McGinn. “The Bears just kind of are what they are. I don’t see him in Detroit, either. At least the Vikings’ offense is what he’s used to. Old dogs don’t learn new tricks, especially in three weeks.”

 
TommyKramer said:
PACKERS TALKING TRADE WITH VIKINGS?Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2008, 11:54 p.m. With the Green Bay Packers putting out the word that they’re prepared to welcome back quarterback Brett Favre, now comes a report that the Packers recently opened talks with the Vikings regarding a possible trade of the veteran signal-caller.Per Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, an unnamed source says that the Packers called the Vikings on Friday to inform that Favre is available.The story was/is that if Favre reported for Packers training camp, the team would potentially trade him within the NFC North division.However, the Vikings remain convinced that the Packers don’t want Favre, despite Sunday’s statement from team president Mark Murphy, who strongly suggested that the welcome mat has been rolled out for Favre.And the Vikings clearly seem to be Favre’s first choice. “The Bears say they’re not interested,” the source told McGinn. “The Bears just kind of are what they are. I don’t see him in Detroit, either. At least the Vikings’ offense is what he’s used to. Old dogs don’t learn new tricks, especially in three weeks.”
what did Brett Favre eat today> is he wearing jeans or slacks, shorts or trunks..? did his wife color her hair she looks different..she's lost weight, is everything OK?! this *$% soap opera just won't end.. :goodposting: I doubt GB keeps him, they don't want to pay his salary ( $12 mil?) this season..but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..As the World Turns..So are the Days of our Lives... :rant: :rolleyes:
 
but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..
:clap:He's asked for a trade. I don't doubt for a second he'd jump at the first chance to hand off to Adrian Peterson, with that defense in place, and receiving core of Berrian & Rice.I think Favre would have his best statistical year in GB (as he's been in the system) and obviously they'd have a good shot in the NFC, but I think MN becomes the NFC favorite (even if does take a month or two for Favre to adjust there).
 
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Anybody else think that once the tampering charges were laid that all bridges between the Vikings and Packers front office were burnt. Trade rumors persist because it is good spin but the last thing the Vikings want is to do the Packers any type of favor.

 
Anybody else think that once the tampering charges were laid that all bridges between the Vikings and Packers front office were burnt. Trade rumors persist because it is good spin but the last thing the Vikings want is to do the Packers any type of favor.
I think the team ending up with Favre would be the beneficiary.
 
Anybody else think that once the tampering charges were laid that all bridges between the Vikings and Packers front office were burnt. Trade rumors persist because it is good spin but the last thing the Vikings want is to do the Packers any type of favor.
I think that's true.If I am the Vikings, I think I'd wait and see if the Pack are really going to allow Favre and Rodgers to compete, and if they are really going to allow Favre on the Week 1 roster.
 
but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..
:yes:He's asked for a trade. I don't doubt for a second he'd jump at the first chance to hand off to Adrian Peterson, with that defense in place, and receiving core of Berrian & Rice.I think Favre would have his best statistical year in GB (as he's been in the system) and obviously they'd have a good shot in the NFC, but I think MN becomes the NFC favorite (even if does take a month or two for Favre to adjust there).
ORLY?So he's going to exceed his 4413/38/13 performance back in 1995? :popcorn:
 
TommyKramer said:
PACKERS TALKING TRADE WITH VIKINGS?Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2008, 11:54 p.m. With the Green Bay Packers putting out the word that they’re prepared to welcome back quarterback Brett Favre, now comes a report that the Packers recently opened talks with the Vikings regarding a possible trade of the veteran signal-caller.Per Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, an unnamed source says that the Packers called the Vikings on Friday to inform that Favre is available.The story was/is that if Favre reported for Packers training camp, the team would potentially trade him within the NFC North division.However, the Vikings remain convinced that the Packers don’t want Favre, despite Sunday’s statement from team president Mark Murphy, who strongly suggested that the welcome mat has been rolled out for Favre.And the Vikings clearly seem to be Favre’s first choice. “The Bears say they’re not interested,” the source told McGinn. “The Bears just kind of are what they are. I don’t see him in Detroit, either. At least the Vikings’ offense is what he’s used to. Old dogs don’t learn new tricks, especially in three weeks.”
what did Brett Favre eat today> is he wearing jeans or slacks, shorts or trunks..? did his wife color her hair she looks different..she's lost weight, is everything OK?! this *$% soap opera just won't end.. :yes: I doubt GB keeps him, they don't want to pay his salary ( $12 mil?) this season..but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..As the World Turns..So are the Days of our Lives... :popcorn: :rolleyes:
If you are posting here, you are part of the problem and have no room to complain. ;)
 
Anybody else think that once the tampering charges were laid that all bridges between the Vikings and Packers front office were burnt. Trade rumors persist because it is good spin but the last thing the Vikings want is to do the Packers any type of favor.
Exactly!Why would we want to relieve them of their headache/distraction AND give them something in a trade?

If he gets released, that's one thing. Even then the Vikings had better get a league ruling on the tampering charges before they proceed trying to sign him. Don't need Goddell trying to "even" everything up in the end.

 
but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..
:confused:He's asked for a trade. I don't doubt for a second he'd jump at the first chance to hand off to Adrian Peterson, with that defense in place, and receiving core of Berrian & Rice.I think Favre would have his best statistical year in GB (as he's been in the system) and obviously they'd have a good shot in the NFC, but I think MN becomes the NFC favorite (even if does take a month or two for Favre to adjust there).
ORLY?So he's going to exceed his 4413/38/13 performance back in 1995? :cry:
His best statistical on GB versus if he was on Minnesota.
 
but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..
:confused:He's asked for a trade. I don't doubt for a second he'd jump at the first chance to hand off to Adrian Peterson, with that defense in place, and receiving core of Berrian & Rice.I think Favre would have his best statistical year in GB (as he's been in the system) and obviously they'd have a good shot in the NFC, but I think MN becomes the NFC favorite (even if does take a month or two for Favre to adjust there).
ORLY?So he's going to exceed his 4413/38/13 performance back in 1995? :popcorn:
His best statistical on GB versus if he was on Minnesota.
:thumbup:
 
Anybody else think that once the tampering charges were laid that all bridges between the Vikings and Packers front office were burnt. Trade rumors persist because it is good spin but the last thing the Vikings want is to do the Packers any type of favor.
I think the team ending up with Favre would be the beneficiary.
You may be right but you are also inviting the 3 ring media circus that is Brett Favre to town. Does the team need that type of distraction? Thompson says that his team has moved on since they have been preparing with Rogers for about 6 months while the Vikings have been preparing with Jackson for about 3 years. In fact, it seems that they have been avoiding drafting and signing QBs that could be direct competition for Jackson. It is a total change of direction if they trade for Favre. It will set Jackson back further than Rogers IMO

 
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From KFFL:

Vikings | Childress says team has not contacted PackersMon, 4 Aug 2008 10:14:12 -0700Judd Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress said the team has not contacted the Green Bay Packers about a potential trade involving QB Brett Favre. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers recently contacted the Vikings. "Bob (Hagan, the Vikings director of public relations) showed me that article last night," Childress said. "I was in a personnel meeting with Rick (Spielman) and George Paton until 11 o'clock with the coaches. I have a pretty good idea how that (article) went down but you can shape the environment however you want one way or the other. We haven't had any contact with them."
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.

 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
 
but I doubt Favre would play for anyone else..
:shrug:He's asked for a trade. I don't doubt for a second he'd jump at the first chance to hand off to Adrian Peterson, with that defense in place, and receiving core of Berrian & Rice.I think Favre would have his best statistical year in GB (as he's been in the system) and obviously they'd have a good shot in the NFC, but I think MN becomes the NFC favorite (even if does take a month or two for Favre to adjust there).
ORLY?So he's going to exceed his 4413/38/13 performance back in 1995? :lmao:
His best statistical on GB versus if he was on Minnesota.
:loco:
:thumbup: Yes I meant statistical year for 2008. (No question he'll have better #'s in GB than MN)-------------If they trade Favre, I'd make performance related clauses. Brett for a 3rd. Goes to a 2nd if they reach the NFC Championship, 1st if they go to the Super Bowl. (Or something to that extent)Though no one knows for sure, it is looking more and more like he'll remain in GB and be the starter. (Scrimmage or not, Rodgers did himself no favors last night).
 
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Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
:rant: Who hasn't "bought" players? Isn't every free agent signing from another team a "bought" player? The Vikings would be fools not to look into getting Favre. A 1st rounder would not be too high a price to pay. The Vikes have an amazing defense, and an all world running back. Favre would really be the missing piece for that O. And I am in the camp that says Jackson can still develop.As a Packer fan, I am sick of hearing the "don't trade in the division" garbage. Who cares? It would stink because the Vikes are a rival and I would hate to see Favre wearing purple, but if they can get a 1st or 2nd for him, it would be a good move for the franchise.
 
Does anyone else think he is worth more or less than Jason Taylor?

How 'bout Jeremy Shockey?

Let's say that he will guarantee 2 years for whatever team he would go to.

 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:) They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.

 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
38 yo qb's don't go for first round picks, no thanks from this fan anyways, a big no thanks
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
I am also a long time Vikings fan and I'm just wondering what Tavaris Jackson you are watching. He is just plain AWFUL!!! He was just another example of wasting a draft pick by the Vikes. He will never be any good at the NFL level and the sooner Childress cuts ties, the better. The only reason he's still around is because Childress doesn't want to admit that it was a blown pick. The experiment should be over. I'd rather see Frerotte play. I would take Favre in a second. You throw Favre in there and you'll see how good the WR's can be. After all the Super Bowl dissapointments that we've had to deal with I would be more than happy with "Buying" one with "Their Guy" and will be laughing when I'm wearing my #4 Vikings Favre jersey.
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
38 yo qb's don't go for first round picks, no thanks from this fan anyways, a big no thanks
Have fun with your 9-7 record next year.
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
:lmao:
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
:lol:
What is it with the Vikings' fans? You'd think that none of them actually watched the games last year. When your rivalry with GB outweighs your willingness to do what it takes to win the SB then you know you aren't mentally stable.If they get what they wish for all they're going to have is a few years with one of the most talented RBs ever and nothing to show for it. AD will just be Billy Sims II.
 
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Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
I am also a long time Vikings fan and I'm just wondering what Tavaris Jackson you are watching. He is just plain AWFUL!!! He was just another example of wasting a draft pick by the Vikes. He will never be any good at the NFL level and the sooner Childress cuts ties, the better. The only reason he's still around is because Childress doesn't want to admit that it was a blown pick. The experiment should be over. I'd rather see Frerotte play. I would take Favre in a second. You throw Favre in there and you'll see how good the WR's can be. After all the Super Bowl dissapointments that we've had to deal with I would be more than happy with "Buying" one with "Their Guy" and will be laughing when I'm wearing my #4 Vikings Favre jersey.
As a big Packers fan I completely agree with you. I would be absolutely livid with a Favre trade to the Vikings no matter what the compensation would be cause that would mean the Vikings would have a legit shot at the Superbowl which is something I could not stomach if led by Mr Packer himself....Brett Favre.
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:thumbup: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.

 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
Well then good thing for him and Minnesota, should a trade happen Favre joins the best run O, best run D, and what may be a vastly improved passing D this year (I am thinking the term -shutdown- may be appropriate, but we have to see.) So Favre might not have to be the hero he was last year to keep the game competetive, considering the team won games in spite of poor QB play last year.
 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
Actually, with the proper COACHING and the potential of the Vikings defense, I think they have a shot now.Favre can be coached out of being an INT machine if he has a good defense and a rushing game.
 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
See: Sidney Rice. If Favre goes to Minny, Rice will emerge as the best WR on the team.
 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
See: Sidney Rice. If Favre goes to Minny, Rice will emerge as the best WR on the team.
don't forget Robert Ferguson - what a dream reunion that would be
 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
So Berrian is good enough to get close to 1,000 yards with the likes of Grossman and Orton but he would suddenly suck with a QB like Favre...gotcha... :lmao:
 
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:thumbup: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
I watched too...and while he was not good...he also was not "horrible".And I don't take much from a family night scrimmage.

 
Farve would be a big improvement for Minn - however they still need some recievers. Berrian is not enough. If you were going to toss CT or a first to the Pack, you will have to go and get at least one more quality reciever. Farve throwing to dreck = no super bowl. He will be an interception machine in any game he has to win on his arm. Give him two/three above average NFL recievers - I think the vikes could win the SB. And I hate the Vikes.
Actually, with the proper COACHING and the potential of the Vikings defense, I think they have a shot now.Favre can be coached out of being an INT machine if he has a good defense and a rushing game.
Are they going to hire a new coaching staff?Because that is the one thing that makes me feel better about Favre going there...is I have no confidence in Minny's coaching to do a damn thing.
 
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:thumbup: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:goodposting: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
:goodposting: I'm a Peterson fan. And I don't want to see him get thrown away on a bunch of fans who don't deserve him.

 
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Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:hophead: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
:goodposting: I'm a Peterson fan. And I don't want to see him get thrown away on a bunch of fans who don't deserve him.
Wow, if that isn't a fishing trip I don't know what is.Meanwhile, the Viking fans adore Peterson, and where has Favre's support gone after so long? If this board is any indication, it was the easiest thing in the world for Packer fans to turn their back on the guy who turned their franchise around and brought them a superbowl ring. If you want to talk about ingrates, there's your fans who don't deserve somebody. Maybe they'll all get their wish and be rid of him before too long to a team that would really appreciate a player of his caliber and what he may be able to do for them this year.

 
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:) As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
:rant: I'm a Peterson fan. And I don't want to see him get thrown away on a bunch of fans who don't deserve him.
Wow, if that isn't a fishing trip I don't know what is.
If you're a fan of a NFL team and you are satisfied with having Tarvaris Jackson under center when you can have Favre then you don't deserve to AD.
 
If you're a fan of a NFL team and you are satisfied with having Tarvaris Jackson under center when you can have Favre then you don't deserve to AD.
Now I see where you're coming from. I happen to agree with you on the point that there is no discussion on whether or not Favre is better for the Vikings this year. Favre on the Vikes means most likely EVERYBODY sees improvement, All Day, Chester, Berrian and Rice. Numbers improve across the board.Tarvaris may have improved some this offseason and may continue to improve as the season goes on, but he could benefit from another year on the bench and learning the game rather than blowing his chance at a longer career by showing another poor season this year.I wouldn't be as so harsh as to say Viking fans who don't want Favre in favor of Tarvaris don't deserve All Day because I understand the sentiment. He's been the enemy since the beginning of time, he's a flake and now the original Favre fans have turned on them because he made them feel silly for ever defending him in the first place. That's a lot to overcome.I understand why some Vike fans can't look at it objectively, is all. Favre could be an utter failure for the Vikes, but the ceiling is much higher than Tarvaris' this year, and that's what matters to me.
 
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:wall: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:mellow: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
:lmao: I'm a Peterson fan. And I don't want to see him get thrown away on a bunch of fans who don't deserve him.
Wow, if that isn't a fishing trip I don't know what is.
If you're a fan of a NFL team and you are satisfied with having Tarvaris Jackson under center when you can have Favre then you don't deserve to AD.
well if they can just have him thats a different story, giving a first round pick to the packers when they don't even want him is not a good move imo
 
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Donnybrook said:
Christo said:
Twice in the last week I've heard Chris Mortensen on the radio say he thinks Favre is worth a First Rounder + a player. What is he smoking? If I'm the Vikings and I want to make an offer, I say 4th or 5th Rounder.

That said, as a Vikings fan, I don't want Favre. It's not necessarily that I think Jackson will do better, although I think it's possible. If the Vikings sign him and win the Superbowl, we'll have "bought" the championship with "Their Guy." If Favre falters, GB looks smart and we're the stupid team that paid him $12M/yr for 2 years when he's washed up. Lose/Lose.

I'll take my chances with Jackson tyvm.
You're crazy. If I were Zygi and could get a 2 year guaranty out of Favre I'd give up the first and a non-starter today to get him in camp tomorrow. With Favre the Vikings are instant SB contenders the next two years. That's certainly worth the price. In this age, there's no such thing as "Their Guy."
Well I am glad you don't own the Vikings. Packers were willing to pay Favre 20 M to stay home and get nothing in return. Giving them a first for a player they do not even want in their camp is crazy.
:lmao: They offered him the $20 million because they didn't want him to come back and embarrass them by either beating out Rodgers easily or going to another team and beating them on the field.8-8

6-10

9-7

8-8

9-7

6-10

5-11

Sound familiar? With those records, they've amassed some nice first round talent. But they've never put it all together. Now they're pissing away the talent they do have by tossing out a QB who has no more business under center than Quincy Carter. At least Carter had the excuse that Dallas was sorely lacking in talent the years he did start. Jackson doesn't have that excuse. You may be satisfied with mediocrity. But if I was a fan, I'd love to see the team gamble a first round pick to get the last piece of the puzzle.
:rolleyes: As a Packer fan, you should be a little less concerned with the Vikings QB situation and a lot more corcern about your own. I was unlucky enough to watch Aaron Rogers in the family day scrimmage and quite frankly he was horrible.
:hey: I'm a Peterson fan. And I don't want to see him get thrown away on a bunch of fans who don't deserve him.
Wow, if that isn't a fishing trip I don't know what is.Meanwhile, the Viking fans adore Peterson, and where has Favre's support gone after so long? If this board is any indication, it was the easiest thing in the world for Packer fans to turn their back on the guy who turned their franchise around and brought them a superbowl ring. If you want to talk about ingrates, there's your fans who don't deserve somebody. Maybe they'll all get their wish and be rid of him before too long to a team that would really appreciate a player of his caliber and what he may be able to do for them this year.
When he turned his back on the franchise with his actions...that is when things turned.
 
Always nice to see objectivity go out the windown in the midst of a intra-division rivalry.

Vikings fans are delusional if they think that Favre isn't a dramatic improvement over Jackson in 2008. Before you react - stop and reread the last sentence. I said "in 2008." Even the most passionate TJ supporter has to acknowledge that he's a developmental QB prospect with absolutely no guarantees as to where he'll end up, or even that he'll keep improving.

Frankly, I think TJ's ceiling is somewhere around Gus Frerotte's (a guy on your roster too, coincidentally enough) who can spot start for teams and win games, but who you don't want as your starter long term. And for now, I'd probably trust Frerotte as my starter more than TJ just because I can rely upon a veteran to avoid mistakes more than a young QB.

Regardless, outside of the QB position, the Vikings are in the top 10 of teams with the most talent, and playing in the weaker conference have a great opportunity to make a strong playoff run. Choosing to force the rest of the team to wait while you develop Jackson, instead of acquiring a guy like Favre, is insanity under the circumstances.

Obviously, the cost for acquiring Favre needs to be acceptable, but that's a separate issue. I'm just addressing the notion that TJ is good enough that you don't need Favre.

 
Always nice to see objectivity go out the windown in the midst of a intra-division rivalry.

Vikings fans are delusional if they think that Favre isn't a dramatic improvement over Jackson in 2008. Before you react - stop and reread the last sentence. I said "in 2008." Even the most passionate TJ supporter has to acknowledge that he's a developmental QB prospect with absolutely no guarantees as to where he'll end up, or even that he'll keep improving.

Frankly, I think TJ's ceiling is somewhere around Gus Frerotte's (a guy on your roster too, coincidentally enough) who can spot start for teams and win games, but who you don't want as your starter long term. And for now, I'd probably trust Frerotte as my starter more than TJ just because I can rely upon a veteran to avoid mistakes more than a young QB.

Regardless, outside of the QB position, the Vikings are in the top 10 of teams with the most talent, and playing in the weaker conference have a great opportunity to make a strong playoff run. Choosing to force the rest of the team to wait while you develop Jackson, instead of acquiring a guy like Favre, is insanity under the circumstances.

Obviously, the cost for acquiring Favre needs to be acceptable, but that's a separate issue. I'm just addressing the notion that TJ is good enough that you don't need Favre.
have any vikings fans said he's not? of course he is, he's just not worth a 1st round pick at this stage of the game.
 
Always nice to see objectivity go out the windown in the midst of a intra-division rivalry.

Vikings fans are delusional if they think that Favre isn't a dramatic improvement over Jackson in 2008. Before you react - stop and reread the last sentence. I said "in 2008." Even the most passionate TJ supporter has to acknowledge that he's a developmental QB prospect with absolutely no guarantees as to where he'll end up, or even that he'll keep improving.

Frankly, I think TJ's ceiling is somewhere around Gus Frerotte's (a guy on your roster too, coincidentally enough) who can spot start for teams and win games, but who you don't want as your starter long term. And for now, I'd probably trust Frerotte as my starter more than TJ just because I can rely upon a veteran to avoid mistakes more than a young QB.

Regardless, outside of the QB position, the Vikings are in the top 10 of teams with the most talent, and playing in the weaker conference have a great opportunity to make a strong playoff run. Choosing to force the rest of the team to wait while you develop Jackson, instead of acquiring a guy like Favre, is insanity under the circumstances.

Obviously, the cost for acquiring Favre needs to be acceptable, but that's a separate issue. I'm just addressing the notion that TJ is good enough that you don't need Favre.
have any vikings fans said he's not? of course he is, he's just not worth a 1st round pick at this stage of the game.
When I see statements like "he's an interception machine", I start to wonder.BTW- given that the first rounder that they'd give up (assuming of course that that's indeed the price) is likely to be in the last 8 picks or so of that round, doesn't that make the price much more palatable? Isn't the 1.26, for example, worth giving up to have a legit shot at a Super Bowl?

 
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