Phillip Seymour Hoffman (1 Viewer)

[Franknbeans]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

 

[LinusMarr]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

They are liberal...lol

 

[biggamer3]

Pretty shocking. Had no idea he had drug issues at all. From all the actors working today, he would have been near the bottom of a death pool if I had to pick one.

 

[BigJim®]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

I'm going with money, access, and the typical consequences of using highly addictive substances.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

 

[Psychopav]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

I'm going with money, access, and the typical consequences of using highly addictive substances.

This is my bet.

I've never done heroine but I've had dilaudid in the hospital once, and of course I've had Ocycontin, Vicodin, and any number of other similar narcotics and I used to be addicted to nicotine. I can absolutely understand how this could happen, even without any serious personal issues driving the behavior. Hell, if you gave me dilaudid right now I'd take that stuff.

It was so good that I was in the hospital a week - a dedicated 20+ year smoker - and never once even craved a cigarette.

Then the first thing I did when we pulled away from the curb was to light up...

 

[rockaction]

Pretty shocking. Had no idea he had drug issues at all. From all the actors working today, he would have been near the bottom of a death pool if I had to pick one.

That's what I was telling my family last night. I said exactly the same thing about a death pool. From some of the posts here, they said he had problems. I always thought he was remarkably adjusted.

Was that ever wrong.

 

[Clifford]

Go see Doubt and then cry buckets for the loss to the Arts.

Doubt was really good. Still want to see The Master.

 

[pollardsvision]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wait, is MOP really feigning anger at an actor he has never met before for using drugs and overdosing?

Go see a psychiatrist or something bud.

It's a known fact that most folks who try and accuse others of being crazy or needing psycho therapy are typically projecting.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

 

[biggamer3]

Pretty shocking. Had no idea he had drug issues at all. From all the actors working today, he would have been near the bottom of a death pool if I had to pick one.

That's what I was telling my family last night. I said exactly the same thing about a death pool. From some of the posts here, they said he had problems. I always thought he was remarkably adjusted.

Was that ever wrong.

Yeah, it just shows how little we know of people and how they are struggling internally. I always saw him sitting at the Knicks games with his son and he looked super adjusted and unHollywood if that makes any sense.

 

[17seconds]

Christ how bad off can you have it when you are a millionaire playing make believe.

Everything is relative. Everybody gets used to where they are and it loses whatever luster you think it has.

I'm sure someone who lives their entire life in poverty wonders the same thing about a person with a 3,000sqft house and a Mercedes who kills themselves.

 

[gump]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

I'm going with money, access, and the typical consequences of using highly addictive substances.

Yup. I look back at the times when I've taken a step or two down the long road to addiction before pulling back and I'm amazed at the famous performers who don't have these problems. If I had a huge pile of money in the bank, beautiful women throwing themselves at me, full access to any party or club I wanted to hit up, no 9-5 job, and no societal expectations that I live my life a certain way I have no doubt that I'd have gone full Charlie Sheen at some point.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Good point, they will likely close with Hoffman.

 

[Keerock]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

 

[gump]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

That would be good...although it would be impossible to avoid it. Similar, but not quite as unavoidable, to Whitney Houston dying the week of the Grammys.

 

[17seconds]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

They'll mention him for sure. The show isn't for another month and they did it with Heath Ledger who died on 1/22.

 

[cstu]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

I like the sincere Tanner.

 

[Apple Jack]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night. When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the factnot sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicideisn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the processthat seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

What does having empties around have to do with his motivation for using?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

You wonder if his wife knew or if she herself was also doing heroin.

 

[JZilla]

I don't think they're any different from regular people except they have a lot of money and access to anything they want. We are surrounded by substance abusers. You notice the extreme ones. PSH could have been a plumber, been a drunk his whole life because it's all he could really afford, and maybe he lives to be 70.

 

[DSP]

And now we can make the hoffman thread abput me

The obsession is pathological

No, not really. No one really gives a #### about you here.

Lately I have barely made any threads and having been posting anything controversial. Time and time I am mentioned in posts and my posts are frequently engaged

The people who seemingly despise me cant stop thinking about me. That is an obsession. Which you demonstrated as well because you could not help but respond to me

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

Or he was distributing, possibly to others in Hollywood (ie the industry, wherever they are in NYC or anywhere else making movies).

 

[hxperson]

I don't think they're any different from regular people except they have a lot of money and access to anything they want. We are surrounded by substance abusers. You notice the extreme ones. PSH could have been a plumber, been a drunk his whole life because it's all he could really afford, and maybe he lives to be 70.

I think these people also tend to deal in more high adreneline and high stress environments, and therefore may crave more extreme stimulation during their downtime than most others.

 

[Apple Jack]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

Or he was distributing, possibly to others in Hollywood (ie the industry, wherever they are in NYC or anywhere else making movies).

Ridiculous. The majority of junkies are buying heroin after broken up for street sales, which is in $10 bags. 50 bags for a junkie is nothing.

 

[Billy Bats]

Sometimes it's as simple as the company you keep. If you don't associate with heroin users, the likelihood of you using heroin and dying from it lowers significantly.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

Or he was distributing, possibly to others in Hollywood (ie the industry, wherever they are in NYC or anywhere else making movies).

Ridiculous. The majority of junkies are buying heroin after broken up for street sales, which is in $10 bags. 50 bags for a junkie is nothing.

Ok, glad to say I did not know that. 50 bags sounded like a lot. I was merely following Cstu who seemed to indicate 50 bags was a lot. Maybe not.

 

[JZilla]

I don't think they're any different from regular people except they have a lot of money and access to anything they want. We are surrounded by substance abusers. You notice the extreme ones. PSH could have been a plumber, been a drunk his whole life because it's all he could really afford, and maybe he lives to be 70.

I think these people also tend to deal in more high adreneline and high stress environments, and therefore may crave more extreme stimulation during their downtime than most others.

I don't think filming movies is as high stress as some may think.

 

[DSP]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night. When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the factnot sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicideisn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the processthat seem alike suicide to me.

When it comes to doing heroin, yes, I'd agree that it's suicidal. I just read that he had 50 bags of heroin in his apartment, no way an addiction like that is anything but a slow suicide.

Or he was distributing, possibly to others in Hollywood (ie the industry, wherever they are in NYC or anywhere else making movies).

Ridiculous. The majority of junkies are buying heroin after broken up for street sales, which is in $10 bags. 50 bags for a junkie is nothing.

Yeah. 50 bags is barely enough for a week. Once I was up to 8-10 a day. Ive known guys who do 3-5 in one shot

 

[Two Deep]

I don't understand people getting involved with heroin? If you need to get out of your head for awhile, just sit in your recliner and do some whiskey shots. Christ how bad off can you have it when you are a millionaire playing make believe.

Yeah you never see other celebrities, athletes, or artists with drug problems.

We're talking about Phillip Seymour- Hoffman right? By the way was he some kind of cross between Jane Seymour and Dustin Hoffman?

wat

What...I thought maybe he was the love child of Jane Seymour and Dustin Hoffman.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Played a very realistic heroin addict in "Before the devil knows your dead". Great actor. RIP.

IMO this was his best performance and probably my favorite film of his as Boogie Nights wasnt really PSH's movie. His character felt ridiculously realistic, as did the emotion he brought to it in Before The Devil Knows Youre Dead.

 

[Eephus]

I don't think they're any different from regular people except they have a lot of money and access to anything they want. We are surrounded by substance abusers. You notice the extreme ones. PSH could have been a plumber, been a drunk his whole life because it's all he could really afford, and maybe he lives to be 70.

or he could have been a heroin addicted plumber found dead in his apartment some morning. There are addicts in every profession. Maybe there's a higher percentage in show business, maybe not but when my mechanic died of a heroin OD last year, it didn't make the front page.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

If it was an intentional OD, sure, but Id guess the vast majority of OD's are not intentional and simply the user is just trying to slam more H to get a bigger high but it ends up being more than the body can handle.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

No chance the ignore PSH's dead. It'll be the elephant in the room, and if they didnt mention it everyone would think WTF?!

 

[Aerial Assault]

Oh, no. So sad. What a fantastic actor. We just saw him in Hunger Games 2 a little while ago. RIP and I hope his family will be okay.

I noticed they ran a commercial and made sure PSH was in the trailer they ran on TV last night. He also was filming the next 2 installments of the Hunger Games, was done with 1 but had not finished part 2…we don't know if his character was done filming or if they will have to re-write/cut him out or re-cast/re-shoot which could be a real PIA.

I'm sure they'll try to use the footage if there's enough to do anything at all with, especially if his performance was good (which we have no reason to assume it wouldn't be). How many people saw that batman movie who wouldn't otherwise have seen it just because of Heath Ledger?

I didn't want to seem inappropriate and mention any of that, but you guys raised it in a respectful way; well done.

Yeah, he was outstanding in Catching Fire (Hunger Games 2). His scenes were largely with either Jen Lawrence or Donald Sutherland, so the acting as they played off one another was top-notch stuff and amazing to watch, lifting a fairly ho-hum script. They split Mockingjay, the third book, into two movies just like Twilight (which is where the similarities between the craptastic latter and the HG movies ends), and the SO (she read the books; I didn't) says that she's not sure how PSH's character could be in one half but not the other. So, yeah. If they weren't done filming it's going to be a challenge.

Reading now that he had split from his longtime love just a few months ago, and that he just signed on as the lead in a Showtime drama series. I bet that would have been great. :(

 

[Eephus]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

No chance the ignore PSH's dead. It'll be the elephant in the room, and if they didnt mention it everyone would think WTF?!

My pick for the hammer would be Peter O'Toole

 

[BigJim®]

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

If it was an intentional OD, sure, but Id guess the vast majority of OD's are not intentional and simply the user is just trying to slam more H to get a bigger high but it ends up being more than the body can handle.

I don't get the whole suicide angle, it seems crass to raise unless there is reason to believe he had intent to do that. These are almost always classified as accidental. People use risky substances because they are addicted and can't resist. If he died of lung cancer we wouldn't be calling that a quasi suicide on the basis that known lethal risks of tobacco use translate to actual intent to die. By all appearances this is just another sad accidental death.

 

[spreagle]

He appeared to be in horrible physical shape, and a post or two in the FBG 10k forum would have worked wonders for him. I encourage everyone who isn't in good physical shape to start some regular physical activity, and keep close tabs on your progress, once you get into it, you can see what physical damage one weekend of hard partying will do (it will set you back a month) and pretty soon all that partying will take a backseat to staying in good physical shape. I mean geez he had kids, how can you keep up with kids when you are horribly out of shape and shooting up on the side? I don't get it.

 

[Joe Summer]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Hmm...Gandolfini was 3 Emmys as lead actor, but never sniffed an Oscar.

PSH won an Oscar as lead actor.

Gandolfini died in 2013, PSH in 2014... they may not even mention PSH until next year.

No chance the ignore PSH's dead. It'll be the elephant in the room, and if they didnt mention it everyone would think WTF?!

The unofficial cutoff date is January 31st, although they've made exceptions in the past (Whitney Houston died in mid-February but was honored at that year's Oscars).

 

[LinusMarr]

He appeared to be in horrible physical shape, and a post or two in the FBG 10k forum would have worked wonders for him. I encourage everyone who isn't in good physical shape to start some regular physical activity, and keep close tabs on your progress, once you get into it, you can see what physical damage one weekend of hard partying will do (it will set you back a month) and pretty soon all that partying will take a backseat to staying in good physical shape. I mean geez he had kids, how can you keep up with kids when you are horribly out of shape and shooting up on the side? I don't get it.

I remember his movies awhile back and he wasnt in very good shape then either...

 

[Quez]

Didn't they say he was found with a needle with heroine in it sticking out of his arm? So he died before even injecting more? That seems odd.

 

[dickey moe]

Sucks. Drug addiction is a #####.

RIP

 

[Zow]

Not that it matters, but who gets honored last at the Oscar memorial tribute thing? PSH or Gandolfini?

Time line they could just add PSH to the end but they also could make a little moral choice and close with Gandolfini which would still be sad but perhaps not quite as sad. I am sure there will be people talking about that night.

When is the last time Hollywood lost an Oscar winner in the prime of his career to a drug overdose? I'm having a had time finding a name. Heath Ledger was not an Oscar winner prior and then he won after the fact…not sure he wins if he doesn't overdose prior to the movie.

Someone asked about suicide…isn't all drug overdoses suicide? It's not called that but if you are wanting to die and trying to make the pain go away and end up OD in the process…that seem alike suicide to me.

Maybe you just want to feel awesome and shoot too much into your arm.

 

[JAMES!]

I didn't realize he was estranged from his girlfriend. Going through a break up with someone he was with for 16 years, 3 kids. Can see how he fell off the wagon. obviously he was in a bad place.

 

[AAABatteries]

Very sad. Loved PSH - one of the few actors who would make me give just about any film a chance because they were in it.

 

[Apple Jack]

He appeared to be in horrible physical shape, and a post or two in the FBG 10k forum would have worked wonders for him. I encourage everyone who isn't in good physical shape to start some regular physical activity, and keep close tabs on your progress, once you get into it, you can see what physical damage one weekend of hard partying will do (it will set you back a month) and pretty soon all that partying will take a backseat to staying in good physical shape. I mean geez he had kids, how can you keep up with kids when you are horribly out of shape and shooting up on the side? I don't get it.

What are you babbling about?

 

[Apple Jack]

Played a very realistic heroin addict in "Before the devil knows your dead". Great actor. RIP.

IMO this was his best performance and probably my favorite film of his as Boogie Nights wasnt really PSH's movie. His character felt ridiculously realistic, as did the emotion he brought to it in Before The Devil Knows Youre Dead.

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead is great. Honestly, the only role I've ever seen him in that I thought was a throwaway was Art Howe. One. That's it.