Planned Parenthood leaked video (1 Viewer)

[General Malaise]

Enough of this killing babies and selling their parts.

Did you hear someone shot and killed a lion? A LION! And not just any lion, a lion with a name!

Bump for PFC Hyperbole You can't make this stuff up, only MaxDumb*** can deliver this kind of terrible.

This all you got? Really?

You try so hard and fail. Is that something you had to learn with constant practice or does it just come natural for you? I actually feel bad for you it's so pathetic.

1 star, left you a comment but you have to approve them because you get so many that tell you the truth.

1,2,3 his name is PFC Hyperbole!

Says the guy who brings the nazi references. Once again, fail - but you're probably used to that anyways.

I thought Goebbels referred to propaganda?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Enough of this killing babies and selling their parts.

Did you hear someone shot and killed a lion? A LION! And not just any lion, a lion with a name!

Bump for PFC Hyperbole You can't make this stuff up, only MaxDumb*** can deliver this kind of terrible.

This all you got? Really?

You try so hard and fail. Is that something you had to learn with constant practice or does it just come natural for you? I actually feel bad for you it's so pathetic.

1 star, left you a comment but you have to approve them because you get so many that tell you the truth.

1,2,3 his name is PFC Hyperbole!

Says the guy who brings the nazi references. Once again, fail - but you're probably used to that anyways.

I thought Goebbels referred to propaganda?

EVERYTHING gets by Max.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Abortion is legal sure but why does it have to be funded by tax payers?

Because it's a service, a small part of what PP does. PP exists in Europe and elsewhere, it doesn't exist in place like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan because the people there don't take kindly to abortion, or assisting women in any way. I'd rather spend my tax dollars assisting women than I would giving the NRA tax breaks or subsidizing farmers to produce ethanol.

Abortion is not a small part. Not counting government funding, it represents 86% of their revenue.

Did you read that at Redstate.com? I bet you did. 3% of their services are abortion-related.

You serious? There's a big difference between a percentage or services and percentage of revenue.

I don't believe your 86% number, but even so you're taking out donations and federal grants, the vast majority of their revenue. You realize they treat mostly very poor people that don't pay anything at all?

 

[tommyboy]

Abortion is legal sure but why does it have to be funded by tax payers?

Its not. Not a dime of taxpayer money goes towards PP abortions*. That's what the Hyde amendment is for. Taxpayer money funds their other services. Why defund the other services like disease prevention and contraception? That would only lead to more (legal) abortions.

*except in extreme cases like rape, incest and life of mother.

another fallacy. they have the revenue from the feds, its fungible. You can't sit there and watch where the money goes and guarantee it doesn't fund abortions. Unless they're spending millions on office supplies

Who cares? Abortion is legal in this country.

Again, there is a ton of #### my tax dollars go to that I don't agree with. I don't throw a ####### fit like a child like your ilk does, I accept that is part of bureaucracy and democracy. We can't always have 100% of what we want, unless of course we are narcissistic morons who think we are above the system. Oh wait, forgot who I was speaking to.

Carry on, Goebbels.

not sure why you're so hostile to me the last several months. We can discuss this without personal BS like above, like adults.

no one is disputing your claim about money being spent on things we don't like, and I mean no one. Your 2nd sentence is more of the same. Seems like the only one having a fit is you.

carry on with your anger.

 

[Sand]

Really have a hard time believing that Tommy - or anybody here, frankly - loses sleep at night when a dirt poor Mexican teenager has an early term abortion because her uncle raped her...even if the PP abortion was su sidized by tax dollars.

You really ought to issue an all points construction alert when building straw men like this.

You seem like a reasonable guy, decent stock man...why the public outcry over PP now? Why not 20 years ago? I don't get it.

While I have always found abortion to be repugnant (though incest/rape/etc. is different as there is significant harm to the mother to carry) those videos made an impression.

Personally, watching PP personnel talk about harvesting, profit mongering, and seeing late term dissections (vivisection? I couldn't finish watching it) literally brought tears to my eyes. Completely visceral reaction, but, man, what some of those folks are doing at PP is just evil. Completely IMO, but I believe a lot of folks around the country had the same reaction. As an engineer I spend a huge amount of time as a dispassionate analyzer of data and events. With PP exactly the opposite. #### them - PP's executive office needs a match (figuratively). Fire every ####### executive and start over.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

talk about

You are talking about it right now.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Really have a hard time believing that Tommy - or anybody here, frankly - loses sleep at night when a dirt poor Mexican teenager has an early term abortion because her uncle raped her...even if the PP abortion was su sidized by tax dollars.

You really ought to issue an all points construction alert when building straw men like this.

You seem like a reasonable guy, decent stock man...why the public outcry over PP now? Why not 20 years ago? I don't get it.

While I have always found abortion to be repugnant (though incest/rape/etc. is different as there is significant harm to the mother to carry) those videos made an impression.

Personally, watching PP personnel talk about harvesting, profit mongering, and seeing late term dissections (vivisection? I couldn't finish watching it) literally brought tears to my eyes. Completely visceral reaction, but, man, what some of those folks are doing at PP is just evil. Completely IMO, but I believe a lot of folks around the country had the same reaction. As an engineer I spend a huge amount of time as a dispassionate analyzer of data and events. With PP exactly the opposite. #### them - PP's executive office needs a match (figuratively). Fire every ####### executive and start over.

What videos? The ones edited to make PP look like the worst human beings on the planet?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Yeah the videos are universally considered "taking liberty" with editing of the all the b-roll.

Hey Max>that's how you use quotation marks, you don't seem to ever understand how to use them.

 

[Sand]

Really have a hard time believing that Tommy - or anybody here, frankly - loses sleep at night when a dirt poor Mexican teenager has an early term abortion because her uncle raped her...even if the PP abortion was su sidized by tax dollars.

You really ought to issue an all points construction alert when building straw men like this.

You seem like a reasonable guy, decent stock man...why the public outcry over PP now? Why not 20 years ago? I don't get it.

While I have always found abortion to be repugnant (though incest/rape/etc. is different as there is significant harm to the mother to carry) those videos made an impression.

Personally, watching PP personnel talk about harvesting, profit mongering, and seeing late term dissections (vivisection? I couldn't finish watching it) literally brought tears to my eyes. Completely visceral reaction, but, man, what some of those folks are doing at PP is just evil. Completely IMO, but I believe a lot of folks around the country had the same reaction. As an engineer I spend a huge amount of time as a dispassionate analyzer of data and events. With PP exactly the opposite. #### them - PP's executive office needs a match (figuratively). Fire every ####### executive and start over.

What videos? The ones edited to make PP look like the worst human beings on the planet?

The 20 week old baby dissection was real. That was more than enough. The rest of it - talk of maximizing/diversifying revenue, talk of buying a new car with the profits, etc. is just icing on the cake. Only a small part of those videos needed to be real for revulsion to settle in.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

 

[matuski]

*Mic Drop*

GOP Chair busted flat misrepresenting data and lying about the source.

Lol he starts shaking when she calls him on it.

I can't remember the last GOP leader you could take seriously.

 

[Sand]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

So you just want it thrown away with no other medical use?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

 

[Lutherman2112]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

I believe the 20 week old "live dissection" is a separate video from the ones released by center for medical progress.Carly Fiorina mentioned the video in one of the debates. Read a couple of times that the video was actually of a still born, and misidentified on purpose.

ETA: Link to Time article about video, and article links to video.

http://time.com/4053578/abortion-carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood/

 

[timschochet]

Great comment by Bill Maher: anyone who wants to see no more fetal tissue used for research should sign a pledge agreeing never to accept the benefits of said research.

 

[Sand]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

Killed. Was the baby sedated prior to being killed? If serial killers can demand a painless way to die why can't that standard be carried here?

 

[Henry Ford]

Abortion is legal sure but why does it have to be funded by tax payers?

Its not. Not a dime of taxpayer money goes towards PP abortions*. That's what the Hyde amendment is for. Taxpayer money funds their other services. Why defund the other services like disease prevention and contraception? That would only lead to more (legal) abortions.*except in extreme cases like rape, incest and life of mother.

another fallacy. they have the revenue from the feds, its fungible. You can't sit there and watch where the money goes and guarantee it doesn't fund abortions. Unless they're spending millions on office supplies

That's ridiculous. Federally funded non-profit budgets are based on payments made for services provided, which form the basis for further federal funding. You spend $5,000 on free condoms? Feds will give you a $5,000 payment as your condon budget. And so on.

 

[MaxThreshold]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

Killed. Was the baby sedated prior to being killed? If serial killers can demand a painless way to die why can't that standard be carried here?

Because pro-abortion people don't see a fetus as being human at all. As long as it's in the womb it's just a lump of tissue - like a cyst or a tumor.

But in the end, it's legal so who cares?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

Killed. Was the baby sedated prior to being killed? If serial killers can demand a painless way to die why can't that standard be carried here?

Its not a person.

And as far as the analogy goes, I dont care if the murderer has a painless death. But if that's the law, then thats how it will be handed out.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

Killed. Was the baby sedated prior to being killed? If serial killers can demand a painless way to die why can't that standard be carried here?

Its not a person.

Huh?

 

[Sand]

The 20 week old baby dissection was real.

What exactly did you think would happen to these unneeded fetuses? Just thrown away? Seems as if they are being used by some for further medical use, in part or in whole.

Do you realize that 20 week old babies can feel pain? Does it not bother you that this baby felt what was happening to it?

A live baby was dissected?

Killed. Was the baby sedated prior to being killed? If serial killers can demand a painless way to die why can't that standard be carried here?

Its not a person.

Huh?

The same people who believe it's fine to abort a child up until it's naturally born. Abortion rights organizations have fought vociferously against laws that outlaw abortions above 21 weeks - at 21 weeks we know a child is viable. But, as long as it's in the womb it's just a lump of cells and can be destroyed at will.

And the same ones who would be aghast at a puppy being killed the same way a 20 week old fetus is.

 

[Johnnymac]

Abortion is legal sure but why does it have to be funded by tax payers?

Its not. Not a dime of taxpayer money goes towards PP abortions*. That's what the Hyde amendment is for. Taxpayer money funds their other services. Why defund the other services like disease prevention and contraception? That would only lead to more (legal) abortions.*except in extreme cases like rape, incest and life of mother.

another fallacy. they have the revenue from the feds, its fungible. You can't sit there and watch where the money goes and guarantee it doesn't fund abortions. Unless they're spending millions on office supplies

That's ridiculous. Federally funded non-profit budgets are based on payments made for services provided, which form the basis for further federal funding. You spend $5,000 on free condoms? Feds will give you a $5,000 payment as your condon budget. And so on.

Henry it is hard to explain facts to pro-life people, they dont listen to them.

 

[Henry Ford]

Abortion is legal sure but why does it have to be funded by tax payers?

Its not. Not a dime of taxpayer money goes towards PP abortions*. That's what the Hyde amendment is for. Taxpayer money funds their other services. Why defund the other services like disease prevention and contraception? That would only lead to more (legal) abortions.*except in extreme cases like rape, incest and life of mother.

another fallacy. they have the revenue from the feds, its fungible. You can't sit there and watch where the money goes and guarantee it doesn't fund abortions. Unless they're spending millions on office supplies

That's ridiculous. Federally funded non-profit budgets are based on payments made for services provided, which form the basis for further federal funding. You spend $5,000 on free condoms? Feds will give you a $5,000 payment as your condon budget. And so on.

Henry it is hard to explain facts to pro-life people, they dont listen to them.

Also false. There are very intelligent, rational people who are anti-abortion in all instances and intellectually consistent. Those people don't make stupid arguments about things they clearly don't understand, though.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

another fallacy. they have the revenue from the feds, its fungible. You can't sit there and watch where the money goes and guarantee it doesn't fund abortions. Unless they're spending millions on office supplies

Be careful what you wish for. There are a lot of Christian-based organizations that get federal funding. Of course they all claim that the money only goes towards secular services, but now that you've blown the lid off that lie we may have to overhaul the system and cut off the money supply.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

 

[Amused to Death]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

Just like every other investigation. Time for another mystery video to surface - should be in final production now.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

And he wanted to be Speaker of the House.

 

[Hang 10]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

Link?

 

[Fennis]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

Link?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-chaffetz-planned-parenthood-funding_5616ed01e4b0dbb8000de134

 

[Henry Ford]

Oops.

 

[Amused to Death]

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.

"Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.

Link?

Or just watch O'Reilly and Hannity tonight - I'm sure they'll spend plenty of time on it after they made such a big deal over it. Because, Fair and Balanced.

 

[Henry Ford]

I guess Chaffetz must have had someone explain to him how charts work at some point.

Is he still trying to be speaker despite not knowing if 300,000 is a bigger number than 900,000?

 

[joffer]

I guess Chaffetz must have had someone explain to him how charts work at some point.

Is he still trying to be speaker despite not knowing if 300,000 is a bigger number than 900,000?

whats the y-axis again?

 

[Henry Ford]

I guess Chaffetz must have had someone explain to him how charts work at some point.

Is he still trying to be speaker despite not knowing if 300,000 is a bigger number than 900,000?

whats the y-axis again?

It's complicated.

 

[Amused to Death]

Planned Parenthood Will No Longer Accept Reimbursement For Fetal Tissue

In an effort to move beyond recent controversy, Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday that it will no longer accept reimbursement for any fetal tissue it provides to medical researchers.

The organization has been the subject of negative attention in recent weeks following the release of highly edited sting videos recorded by an anti-abortion group alleging that Planned Parenthood illegally profits from its fetal tissue donation program.

NPR's Jennifer Ludden reports that "Planned Parenthood points out that reimbursements are legal but says it wants to debunk accusations that it's just out to profit. Officials also say they won't stop providing fetal tissue to researchers when women request [it]. They say such research can lead to life-saving treatments."

In a letter sent to the National Institutes of Health, Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards said the recent accusations against her group are "categorically false" and that the goal of the organization's critics has "nothing to do with our fetal tissue donation compliance process."

Richards adds:

"Today, we're taking their smokescreen away and pushing forward with our important work on behalf of millions of women, men, and young people.
"The participation by a handful of our affiliates in supporting women who choose to make fetal tissue donation has always been about nothing other than honoring the desire of those women and contributing to life-saving research and cures. In order to completely debunk the disingenuous argument that our opponents have been using — and to reveal the true political purpose of these attacks — our Federation has decided, going forward, that any Planned Parenthood health center that is involved in donating tissue after an abortion for medical research will follow the model already in place at one of our two affiliates currently facilitating donations for fetal tissue research. That affiliate accepts no reimbursement for its reasonable expenses — even though reimbursement is fully permitted under the 1993 law."

 

[urbanhack]

:crickets:

 

[Amused to Death]

:crickets:

Good for PP. They withstood a witch hunt that resulted in no evidence of wrong doing. Then take the high road and forego the fees they are legally allowed to collect.

I wonder how much tax money was wasted on this.

 

[Bucky86]

This was like an episode of the "Casting Couch" for anti-abortionist's. They wanted it SO BAD to be real.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

Good outrage in this thread.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

People are surprised by this? Really? I mean, if someone is supportive of murdering unborn children why would this shock anyone?

"Okay, so I'm fine with murdering babies, BUT I DRAW THE LINE AT SELLING THE BODY PARTS!"

Even for you this is pretty terrible, and you are among the worst ever around here.

 

[MaxThreshold]

People are surprised by this? Really? I mean, if someone is supportive of murdering unborn children why would this shock anyone?

"Okay, so I'm fine with murdering babies, BUT I DRAW THE LINE AT SELLING THE BODY PARTS!"

Even for you this is pretty terrible, and you are among the worst ever around here.

Meh. You say that about everyone you disagree with. I guess the truth hurts so I'll take that as a compliment coming from you.

 

[joffer]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-indicts-activists-behind-planned-parenthood-videos/

lol

 

[Bucky86]

 

[bud29]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-indicts-activists-behind-planned-parenthood-videos/

lol

 

[Ignoramus]

Good to see some charges leveled for what these people did under the guise of "helping the community." Just sickening if you ask me.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Those look like some trumped up charges.

 

[pantherclub]

Those look like some trumped up charges.

based on?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Those look like some trumped up charges.

based on?

Tampering with a governmental record? Come on.

 

[Johnnymac]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-indicts-activists-behind-planned-parenthood-videos/

lol

Glad to see this. I figured they would let it go after things died down.