Player Spotlight: Maurice Jones-Drew (1 Viewer)

[cstruk]

I like MJD for about 950/6 td rush, 220/1 rec, based on Taylor being in the mix, which you have to factor in at this point

You have MJD for 1170/7 with Taylor being the lead dog so to speak. MJD has had 1377/15 and 1175/9 with Taylor around and prospering, so it's a pretty safe bet that both can coexist.

Which with that production out of the RBs just makes it silly that anyone would think that the Jax WRs are going to be worth much of anything except for the occasional fluke week.

Even with all that RB production, JAX still had 3500/28 passing the football (with roughly 155-2200-22 going to the WR).IMO, if the team could actually settle on a WR1 and WR2, they both would be fantasy worthy. The problem is, they have so many interchangable parts that none of them are great options.

I really do not see a repeat of those numbers QB numbers as they are definitely a run, run, run team. Eight of those 28 TD's occurred in weeks 16 and 17 playing against teams that had given up for the year and where Jax was trying to get Quinn Gray some experience (and rest MJD and Fred Taylor). The 17 and 21 TD's passing from the two years before are much more likely to be the area that they are in this year as the team scores too many TDs on the ground to tranlate to good WR production. I will agree that if they settled upon a WR1 that they would be worthy of starting (as a #3) as Jimmy Smith was always a favorite of mine. However, I do not see them producing a viable number #2 no matter what.

 

[SSOG]

Maurice Jones-Drew is one of "my guys". He's a guy who simply drips talent, oozes it from every pore of his body during pre-game warmups. Not to be hyperbolic, but I believe that Jones-Drew is one of the 5 most talented pure runners in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented short-yardage and goal-line backs in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented receiving backs in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented blocking backs in the league. I even believe he's one of the 5 most talented kick returners, in large part because he's one of the most talented open-field runners in the league (I wouldn't put him in the top 5 in open-field running, but his ability to get GOBS of yards in space is often wholly overlooked, as he's been pigeonholed as a short-yardage guy and is splitting time with a guy who IS one of the 5 most talented open-field runners in the league). In short, there is not a single thing that this kid can't do, and do as well as anyone in football. Peterson and Jones-Drew are, quite simply, the next generation. This generation is ending, with Holmes and Alexander falling by the wayside, Portis still a stud but no longer a game-breaker or a team-carrier, and Westbrook/Tomlinson putting up their last hurrah. The next generation, so far, is going to be all Jones-Drew and Peterson.

Now, a common axiom is that production = talent + opportunity. Obviously, my feelings on his talent are clear, but what about his opportunity? Jacksonville is a rushing MONSTER, with a powerful offensive line, but what's even more important, with a coach who is committed to the run. I'd take a coach who is dedicated to the run over a powerful offensive line any day of the week, but in Jacksonville, there's no choosing- it's a fantasy Valhalla for RBs. The only real question about Jones-Drew is whether he'll ever carry the load? My personal belief, upon looking at how he's built and seeing his BMI, is that he's physically BUILT to be a workhorse, no question. Is the coaching staff enamored with the idea of keeping him fresh and using him as a committee back? Or are they simply platooning him so far because, as awesome of a talent as he currently is, they have another back who is also a sterling talent and can simply do one thing better than Jones-Drew? If the former, then even after Fred Taylor leaves, Jones-Drew will still split time. Of course, even splitting time, he's still good for 1200/10, so it's not like that's all that much of an indictment of his fantasy chances. If the latter, then no way does Greg Jones keep MJD on the sideline. No way, no how, not happening.

My personal belief is that all of this "will MJD ever be a workhorse" discussion is a year premature. For this year at least, he can not and will not be a workhorse (barring injury to Taylor, of course). Does that matter? I see his usage getting a slight uptick just as a natural progression, and I see him putting up RB8-10 caliber numbers. He's got upside from there (injury to Taylor), and little downside (he's too talented to bust and used too sparingly to be a glaring injury risk), which means he more than justifies his current ADP. MJD, aside from being my favorite back in the NFL, is a strong buy in all of my leagues this year.

 

[BigRed]

I see his usage getting a slight uptick just as a natural progression, and I see him putting up RB8-10 caliber numbers. He's got upside from there (injury to Taylor), and little downside (he's too talented to bust and used too sparingly to be a glaring injury risk), which means he more than justifies his current ADP. MJD, aside from being my favorite back in the NFL, is a strong buy in all of my leagues this year.

I thought all of that last year. Fool me once, etc etc

 

[GDogg]

Maurice Jones-Drew is one of "my guys". He's a guy who simply drips talent, oozes it from every pore of his body during pre-game warmups. Not to be hyperbolic, but I believe that Jones-Drew is one of the 5 most talented pure runners in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented short-yardage and goal-line backs in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented receiving backs in the league. I believe that he's one of the 5 most talented blocking backs in the league. I even believe he's one of the 5 most talented kick returners, in large part because he's one of the most talented open-field runners in the league (I wouldn't put him in the top 5 in open-field running, but his ability to get GOBS of yards in space is often wholly overlooked, as he's been pigeonholed as a short-yardage guy and is splitting time with a guy who IS one of the 5 most talented open-field runners in the league). In short, there is not a single thing that this kid can't do, and do as well as anyone in football. Peterson and Jones-Drew are, quite simply, the next generation. This generation is ending, with Holmes and Alexander falling by the wayside, Portis still a stud but no longer a game-breaker or a team-carrier, and Westbrook/Tomlinson putting up their last hurrah. The next generation, so far, is going to be all Jones-Drew and Peterson.Now, a common axiom is that production = talent + opportunity. Obviously, my feelings on his talent are clear, but what about his opportunity? Jacksonville is a rushing MONSTER, with a powerful offensive line, but what's even more important, with a coach who is committed to the run. I'd take a coach who is dedicated to the run over a powerful offensive line any day of the week, but in Jacksonville, there's no choosing- it's a fantasy Valhalla for RBs. The only real question about Jones-Drew is whether he'll ever carry the load? My personal belief, upon looking at how he's built and seeing his BMI, is that he's physically BUILT to be a workhorse, no question. Is the coaching staff enamored with the idea of keeping him fresh and using him as a committee back? Or are they simply platooning him so far because, as awesome of a talent as he currently is, they have another back who is also a sterling talent and can simply do one thing better than Jones-Drew? If the former, then even after Fred Taylor leaves, Jones-Drew will still split time. Of course, even splitting time, he's still good for 1200/10, so it's not like that's all that much of an indictment of his fantasy chances. If the latter, then no way does Greg Jones keep MJD on the sideline. No way, no how, not happening.My personal belief is that all of this "will MJD ever be a workhorse" discussion is a year premature. For this year at least, he can not and will not be a workhorse (barring injury to Taylor, of course). Does that matter? I see his usage getting a slight uptick just as a natural progression, and I see him putting up RB8-10 caliber numbers. He's got upside from there (injury to Taylor), and little downside (he's too talented to bust and used too sparingly to be a glaring injury risk), which means he more than justifies his current ADP. MJD, aside from being my favorite back in the NFL, is a strong buy in all of my leagues this year.

Co-sign.

 

[fantasyplayer]

Concerns are:

Taylor still is the starter

Reports are Taylor is in great condition starting the season

MJD's value is all tied to Taylor, getting hurt, losing a step, etc,.

MJD is high risk, high reward

MJD has all the hype that Travis Henry had in 07

The Jag's have had great success with RBBC Taylor/MJD, why change it in 08?

I like MJD for about 950/6 td rush, 220/1 rec, based on Taylor being in the mix, which you have to factor in at this point

I agree with the high reward part, but not the high risk. As the "second" guy in the committee, he's put up RB8 and RB13 numbers in his first two seasons. His floor will make him a very solid RB2 this season, which is where he's being drafted. In a keeper/dynasty format, his value should only increase as Taylor's mileage increases. I just don't see the risk here.

 

[SSOG]

I see his usage getting a slight uptick just as a natural progression, and I see him putting up RB8-10 caliber numbers. He's got upside from there (injury to Taylor), and little downside (he's too talented to bust and used too sparingly to be a glaring injury risk), which means he more than justifies his current ADP. MJD, aside from being my favorite back in the NFL, is a strong buy in all of my leagues this year.

I thought all of that last year. Fool me once, etc etc

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

 

[Tanner9919]

I'm thinking outside the box - MJD is overrated. good player, will catch a lot of balls, but with Fred Taylor still hanging around,its hard to envision MJD doing much more than he did last season..

News of Fred Taylor's demise is greatly exaggerated. The guy has been injured quite a bit in his NFL career, so he doesn't have the 'mileage' that a guy like LT2 might have..

The Jags coaching staff is a very conservative bunch, who seem married to the full blown RBBC deal. In that offense over the past two seasons, FT has been the workhorse who gets 220+ carries and few receptions while MJD gets plenty of receptions with fewer carries..the sytem works well , why change it now?

Don't forget that former second round pick Greg Jones is coming back,so the chances that MJD gets MORE than 167 carries are pretty remote at this point, I actually think his numbers will go down with Jones back in the mix...

150/750/4, 35/350/2

 

[David Yudkin]

I'm thinking outside the box - MJD is overrated. good player, will catch a lot of balls, but with Fred Taylor still hanging around,its hard to envision MJD doing much more than he did last season..News of Fred Taylor's demise is greatly exaggerated. The guy has been injured quite a bit in his NFL career, so he doesn't have the 'mileage' that a guy like LT2 might have..The Jags coaching staff is a very conservative bunch, who seem married to the full blown RBBC deal. In that offense over the past two seasons, FT has been the workhorse who gets 220+ carries and few receptions while MJD gets plenty of receptions with fewer carries..the sytem works well , why change it now?Don't forget that former second round pick Greg Jones is coming back,so the chances that MJD gets MORE than 167 carries are pretty remote at this point, I actually think his numbers will go down with Jones back in the mix...150/750/4, 35/350/2

Jones played every game last season . . . and only had 42 carries. I'm not sure why suddenly he would get a much bigger workload in 2008.

 

[switz]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

 

[David Yudkin]

I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

Couldn't someone make the same argument for taking Taylor if MJD were to get hurt? I mean, if Taylor got more (and could handle) a bigger slice of the pie, he'd WAY outdistance his draft slot (currently RB 30).I'm not saying the MJD will get hurt, that Taylor won't get hurt, or that Taylor could handle more carries at this point. But remember that Taylor had a 5.0 and 5.4 ypc average the past two seasons.

 

[switz]

I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

Couldn't someone make the same argument for taking Taylor if MJD were to get hurt? I mean, if Taylor got more (and could handle) a bigger slice of the pie, he'd WAY outdistance his draft slot (currently RB 30).I'm not saying the MJD will get hurt, that Taylor won't get hurt, or that Taylor could handle more carries at this point. But remember that Taylor had a 5.0 and 5.4 ypc average the past two seasons.

I do agree, 100%. But this was a thread about MJD. And my comment wasn't implying I thought Taylor would get hurt. I actually think he's kicked the injury bug, and prepares his body better now for the NFL season. I was just saying that IF I were to draft MJD as a #2 RB, it would be because he has value IF he gets the full load.Quite frankly, I'd be much happier landing Taylor in the 8th round, where I've seen him go, over MJD in the 3rd round. I still believe Taylor will see the majority of carries this season.

 

[Markus P Dub]

If MJD went down I have a feeling we would see a lot more of Greg Jones. As a MJD owner I loved seeing him constantly replace Fred T in the redzone and inside the 5 on a regular basis; but now with G. Jones back in the mix I'm a little irritated. GJ will steal a good chunk of MJDs fantasy points. But I love having MJD as my #2 because he can have thos big games to lift your squad on a Sunday.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Glad you aren't in any of my dynasties, SSOG. That's exactly how I feel about him. Very well said.

 

[Ripleys]

Fred Taylor has already stated that he expects MJD to be the "Starter" this year, and he's fine with that. That he loves Mo and knows he wants his shot.

 

[fantasyplayer]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

It seems that a "consistent" knock against MJD is his inconsistency last season. If 10 is your baseline for a RB2, what is your baseline for a RB1? Adrian Peterson had 7 weeks of 12 or fewer points, not including the 2 weeks he missed with injury.As an OU season ticket holder I'm a HUGE Peterson fan and I'm in no way advocating MJD over Peterson. It just seems if you could argue inconsistency for MJD who is likely your RB2, you could argue the same for Peterson who is likely the #2 RB taken.

 

[David Yudkin]

Fred Taylor has already stated that he expects MJD to be the "Starter" this year, and he's fine with that. That he loves Mo and knows he wants his shot.

I'm not so sure about this. From what I have seen/read, MJD is the one that is fine with Taylor being the starter. I have heard Fred say that he understands that MJD is a talented back and should get the ball a fair amount, but I have not seen anywhere where Fred has suggested that MJD should be the starter and Taylor taking a backseat.The last article I saw on this was this one . . .Jacksonville's Taylor still young at heartBY CARL KOTALA • FLORIDA TODAY • June 6, 2008 Fred Taylor is at the point of his career where certain numbers start to stand out. Like No. 17, his place on the NFL's all-time rushing list with 10,715 yards. Or 32, the age he turned in January.And three, which is how many more seasons the Jacksonville Jaguars veteran running back has remaining on his contract, which he would like to see through."I feel like I can play as long as I want to, God forbid any major injuries," Taylor said during a rare offseason appearance in Jacksonville in May. "When I go and work out -- even when I come out here -- I get excited just to even be around the young guys. It motivates me just to show them what I can do."Taylor is coming off a season in which he ran for 1,202 yards -- including five consecutive 100-yard games -- averaged a career-best 5.4 yards a carry, and went to his first Pro Bowl.And though he did take a little more time off than usual this offseason (partly because of the Pro Bowl, partly because the Jaguars made the playoffs), he has been back at it, working out near his home in West Palm Beach.This is the third year Taylor has spent most of his offseason away from Jacksonville. And while the Jaguars would certainly prefer it if he were around their facility, it's hard to argue with the results it has produced."My first eight years, I would always work out here with the team and stay around," Taylor said. "I wasn't on a food program -- no dieting. After we were done with workouts, I would just go and eat and do whatever I wanted to do. When I'm home, I know if I don't get that nap in after I've had a hard workout, then my boys are going to come home and cause all types of hell."I just decided to stay down there. It's a change of atmosphere, which is always good. When I come back. I feel a sense of renewed energy. When I go down there to train, I feel the same way. It just works out for me."Having a few of the NFL's best young running backs to work out with is another benefit. Among Taylor's workout partners this season are Dallas' Marion Barber -- who turns 25 this month -- and San Francisco's Frank Gore, who just turned 25 in May."Marion, he always looks over and says, 'Man, you don't look like you're 32. You look like you're 25 or something,' " Taylor said. "Just to hear that, it inspires me to keep pushing. I have fun with it."It also inspires him to be more creative on the field. Not just with moves that will impress the young pups, but moves he can use once the season starts."I just like to try things I feel I can do -- show them that I'm still strong enough to make this move, make this cut," he said. "If I'm in the open field with you, I'm not just going to try and stick you and make a cut on you. I might try and stutter step and spin, or stutter-step and speed or stutter step twice . . . just moves, muscle memory, so that when it comes game time, I'm ready for it."Another aspect that has allowed Taylor to perform at such a high level the past few years has been the arrival of running back Maurice Jones-Drew.Last season, Taylor had 223 carries while Jones-Drew had 167. Together, they formed one of the best running back duos in the NFL.Why should that change, right?"I'd really rather not try to predict how it'll play out," Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio told reporters. "I think we have some talent back there, that would include (fullback) Greg Jones and (rookie) Chauncey (Washington) and (second-year player) DD Terry in that mix. They're talented guys. We're going to let them play."I think the way it's worked out, I think has been good for Fred's career. I know Maurice is hungry for more, and to strike that balance where you're competitive and supportive of each other and what's healthy for the team, that's not always easy to strike that balance."Taylor indicated he would definitely like to play the next two seasons and then see how he felt before playing the third.There also has been talk he would close the curtains on his career if he were to surpass Hall of Famer Jim Brown on the all-time list. Taylor will go into the 2008 season needing 1,598 yards to pass Brown, who is No. 8 all time."Yeah, the curtains might be closed," Taylor said. "But might is a strong word. I do love this game. You look at some guys who tried to retire and sit around. You watch the game, you get the feeling that, 'I can still do this.'"I don't want to be that guy. As long as I can go, I'll go. Maybe I'll try and get into the top five."

 

[switz]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

It seems that a "consistent" knock against MJD is his inconsistency last season. If 10 is your baseline for a RB2, what is your baseline for a RB1? Adrian Peterson had 7 weeks of 12 or fewer points, not including the 2 weeks he missed with injury.As an OU season ticket holder I'm a HUGE Peterson fan and I'm in no way advocating MJD over Peterson. It just seems if you could argue inconsistency for MJD who is likely your RB2, you could argue the same for Peterson who is likely the #2 RB taken.

15 is my gauge for RB1. I expect a TD at least 70% of the time, and 100 yards at least 70% of the time. (That's about 11 games BTW).

 

[fantasyplayer]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

It seems that a "consistent" knock against MJD is his inconsistency last season. If 10 is your baseline for a RB2, what is your baseline for a RB1? Adrian Peterson had 7 weeks of 12 or fewer points, not including the 2 weeks he missed with injury.As an OU season ticket holder I'm a HUGE Peterson fan and I'm in no way advocating MJD over Peterson. It just seems if you could argue inconsistency for MJD who is likely your RB2, you could argue the same for Peterson who is likely the #2 RB taken.

15 is my gauge for RB1. I expect a TD at least 70% of the time, and 100 yards at least 70% of the time. (That's about 11 games BTW).

So Peterson only exceeded your baseline in 50% of the 14 games in which he played. Again, I'm not knocking Peterson. I'm just saying that the "inconsistency factor" applies to a lot of players.

 

[TheFanatic]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.



5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19

I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.

MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.

I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

I believe one of the big stories last year was that Fred Taylor had never made the Pro Bowl in his 11 seasons. So the team decided to help ensure that he did achieve that and fed it to him more in order to get him into the PB. Fred has his PB. Now at the ripe old age of 32 which he turned in January, I can't see the Jags spelling him more and more with MJD this season because they look to have a shot at an extended Post Season. Fred looked pretty flat in both play off games. I have to think that they keep the guy fresh in the post season and run him into the ground in the post season. We'll be able to see if this is true after say 6-8 games and see if he's averaging his usual ~15 carries a game that he has averaged the last two seasons....

 

[David Yudkin]

Fred looked pretty flat in both play off games.

MJD had a 3.4 ypc and Taylor 3.3 in the playoffs. Not sure we can conclude anything from two games against two strong run defenses on the road in the post season.

 

[switz]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.



5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19

I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.

MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.

I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

I believe one of the big stories last year was that Fred Taylor had never made the Pro Bowl in his 11 seasons. So the team decided to help ensure that he did achieve that and fed it to him more in order to get him into the PB. Fred has his PB. Now at the ripe old age of 32 which he turned in January, I can't see the Jags spelling him more and more with MJD this season because they look to have a shot at an extended Post Season. Fred looked pretty flat in both play off games. I have to think that they keep the guy fresh in the post season and run him into the ground in the post season. We'll be able to see if this is true after say 6-8 games and see if he's averaging his usual ~15 carries a game that he has averaged the last two seasons....

LOL. Yeah, his 5+ YPC had nothing to do with how they used him, it was all to get him to the Pro Bowl. Nevermind that they must have decided he's be able to produce at a Pro Bowl level before the season even started, which is why they used him that way to open the season.

Man I love how ridiculous the arguments get around here when people let bias overtake their reasoning ability.

 

[TheFanatic]

MJD justified his draft position last year. His game-by-game numbers were not very consistent, but consistency is overrated, especially from the RB2 position. For my RB1, I want a guy who is going to get his points each and every week. From my RB2, I'm fine with a guy who might get me a couple of stinkers, provided he gives me enough ridiculous, nearly-impossible-to-beat games to balance them out.

I guess we all have different points of view. I can understand that when talking about a WR like Andre Johnson. When he's out, he's out. When he's in he's putting up points. MJD though "played" every game, but was just AWFUL for some of them, and cost his team wins. Sure, he singlehandedly won his team probably 3 games last season, but with what cost? I know the team that drafted MJD in one of my leagues started 0-3 with him as their #2. And I also know a few people who went WR early, and counted on MJD to be their #1, but figured they could get him on the cheap in the 2nd or 3rd round. Those teams totally stunk.There's no way he justified his draft position last year.



5,4,4,17,29,12,5,5,18,9,8,11,4,9,19

I count 10 points as the baseline requirement for my RB 2, that means in 6 games MJD was "startable." In 5 games he probably cost you a win. In the other 5, he may not have cost you a win, but he certainly didn't help you win.

MJD is a very talented RB, without a doubt. The problem is, he had only 2 games with 15+ carries, so his owner's are very dependent on him breaking some long runs for TDs for him to help them win. And while he does it at an amazing rate, he just doesn't do it with enough frequency to overcome his lack of opportunity.

I'd be happy with him as my #2 RB, not because of his production last season, but because of the omnipresent chance of a Fred Taylor injury.

I believe one of the big stories last year was that Fred Taylor had never made the Pro Bowl in his 11 seasons. So the team decided to help ensure that he did achieve that and fed it to him more in order to get him into the PB. Fred has his PB. Now at the ripe old age of 32 which he turned in January, I can't see the Jags spelling him more and more with MJD this season because they look to have a shot at an extended Post Season. Fred looked pretty flat in both play off games. I have to think that they keep the guy fresh in the post season and run him into the ground in the post season. We'll be able to see if this is true after say 6-8 games and see if he's averaging his usual ~15 carries a game that he has averaged the last two seasons....

LOL. Yeah, his 5+ YPC had nothing to do with how they used him, it was all to get him to the Pro Bowl. Nevermind that they must have decided he's be able to produce at a Pro Bowl level before the season even started, which is why they used him that way to open the season.

Man I love how ridiculous the arguments get around here when people let bias overtake their reasoning ability.

It was mentioned in more than one article that the line, coaching staff, everyone was on a mission to get Fred to the Pro Bowl in 2007. Let's see, Fred never cracks 5.0 for his career till he's 30 in 2006 and gets exactly 5.0 and THEN at 31 he ups his YPC by nearly 10% Yeah, it had nothing to do with the coaching staff feeding him the ball and the line giving that extra effort. And don't use the line of reasoning that no one is blocking any harder for Fred than MJD. Getting Fred to the probowl was probably the lockerroom mantra to get the team fired up every game, at least the O-Line since they weren't going to get there based on their WR corps.

And keep spouting off about bias. You have been getting your butt kicked in the Bush/MJD threads for a while now and as equally biased albeit on the wrong side of the coin...

 

[switz]

LOL. Yeah, his 5+ YPC had nothing to do with how they used him, it was all to get him to the Pro Bowl. Nevermind that they must have decided he's be able to produce at a Pro Bowl level before the season even started, which is why they used him that way to open the season.Man I love how ridiculous the arguments get around here when people let bias overtake their reasoning ability.

It was mentioned in more than one article that the line, coaching staff, everyone was on a mission to get Fred to the Pro Bowl in 2007. Let's see, Fred never cracks 5.0 for his career till he's 30 in 2006 and gets exactly 5.0 and THEN at 31 he ups his YPC by nearly 10% Yeah, it had nothing to do with the coaching staff feeding him the ball and the line giving that extra effort. And don't use the line of reasoning that no one is blocking any harder for Fred than MJD. Getting Fred to the probowl was probably the lockerroom mantra to get the team fired up every game, at least the O-Line since they weren't going to get there based on their WR corps. And keep spouting off about bias. You have been getting your butt kicked in the Bush/MJD threads for a while now and as equally biased albeit on the wrong side of the coin...

So now you are saying that the line blocks better for Taylor on purpose, but that MJD is the safer bet to put up numbers? LOL. You just keep digging yourself deeper.Bush/MJD threads? When's the last time there was a Bush/MJD thread?

 

[TheFanatic]

LOL. Yeah, his 5+ YPC had nothing to do with how they used him, it was all to get him to the Pro Bowl. Nevermind that they must have decided he's be able to produce at a Pro Bowl level before the season even started, which is why they used him that way to open the season.Man I love how ridiculous the arguments get around here when people let bias overtake their reasoning ability.

It was mentioned in more than one article that the line, coaching staff, everyone was on a mission to get Fred to the Pro Bowl in 2007. Let's see, Fred never cracks 5.0 for his career till he's 30 in 2006 and gets exactly 5.0 and THEN at 31 he ups his YPC by nearly 10% Yeah, it had nothing to do with the coaching staff feeding him the ball and the line giving that extra effort. And don't use the line of reasoning that no one is blocking any harder for Fred than MJD. Getting Fred to the probowl was probably the lockerroom mantra to get the team fired up every game, at least the O-Line since they weren't going to get there based on their WR corps. And keep spouting off about bias. You have been getting your butt kicked in the Bush/MJD threads for a while now and as equally biased albeit on the wrong side of the coin...

So now you are saying that the line blocks better for Taylor on purpose, but that MJD is the safer bet to put up numbers? LOL. You just keep digging yourself deeper.Bush/MJD threads? When's the last time there was a Bush/MJD thread?

I'm saying exactly that. Fred got his pro bowl. Fred will be not just 32 but 32 and 8 months when the season starts. The guy is not long for the game. These guys that coach teams are smart guys. They will not overly burden Fred and not try to put him in his second straight probowl. They will transition MJD into the starting role this year and keep Fred fresh for a playoff run. Better to have the vet with fresh legs than the young kid in the playoffs...Bush/MJD threads. Ones that cover one or both. You are very familiar with these. You go in, pimp Reggie, I slap you around. You come in and bash MJD and I slap you around. This happens so often that you must have some very selective memory. Put down the bong bro....

 

[switz]

Bush/MJD threads. Ones that cover one or both. You are very familiar with these. You go in, pimp Reggie, I slap you around. You come in and bash MJD and I slap you around. This happens so often that you must have some very selective memory. Put down the bong bro....

Still waiting for you to slap me in either Nothing, absolutely nothing you've said in this thread is anything short of ridiculous. If you honestly think you are making a good argument, then you need to go back to debate school. Your argument is that the OL blocked better for FT than MJD because they like FT and wanted to get him to the Pro Bowl. Now that SAME OL is going to not block as well for FT as MJD??? You do realize that is bereft of ANY logic at all.

 

[TheFanatic]

Bush/MJD threads. Ones that cover one or both. You are very familiar with these. You go in, pimp Reggie, I slap you around. You come in and bash MJD and I slap you around. This happens so often that you must have some very selective memory. Put down the bong bro....

Still waiting for you to slap me in either Nothing, absolutely nothing you've said in this thread is anything short of ridiculous. If you honestly think you are making a good argument, then you need to go back to debate school. Your argument is that the OL blocked better for FT than MJD because they like FT and wanted to get him to the Pro Bowl. Now that SAME OL is going to not block as well for FT as MJD??? You do realize that is bereft of ANY logic at all.

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying LAST year they used getting Taylor to the PB as motivator and it showed by Taylor upping his career high YPC of 5.0 to 5.4 or almost 10% at the age of 31. That is unheard of. He got a lot of help. This year it's time to bring the kid along and leave Fred on the sideline more considering his advanced age (did I just say that? I'm 35 ) in order to keep him fresh...

 

[TheFanatic]

Bush/MJD threads. Ones that cover one or both. You are very familiar with these. You go in, pimp Reggie, I slap you around. You come in and bash MJD and I slap you around. This happens so often that you must have some very selective memory. Put down the bong bro....

Still waiting for you to slap me in either Nothing, absolutely nothing you've said in this thread is anything short of ridiculous. If you honestly think you are making a good argument, then you need to go back to debate school. Your argument is that the OL blocked better for FT than MJD because they like FT and wanted to get him to the Pro Bowl. Now that SAME OL is going to not block as well for FT as MJD??? You do realize that is bereft of ANY logic at all.

Aren't you the guy that actually wanted to compare Reggie Bush's first two years to Marshal Faulk's two years and stated that Bush's were better?

 

[TheFanatic]

Still waiting for you to slap me in either

Slow work day so I thought I would find some of the pummeling I have done to you in the past on this:Exhibit A I particularly liked the line about your lack of knowledge of statistics at the bottom of this one.

Exhibit B

Exhibit C I wonder, do you get points in your league for Hype? Maybe a point a commercial for every time Reggie appears in one.

Exhibit D Love the selective stats again.

Gotta wrap it up for the day so I guess I should stop now. Besides doing searched on MJD are tough since everyone uses the acronym and you can't search on 3 letter words.

 

[switz]

Still waiting for you to slap me in either

Slow work day so I thought I would find some of the pummeling I have done to you in the past on this:Exhibit A I particularly liked the line about your lack of knowledge of statistics at the bottom of this one.

Exhibit B

Exhibit C I wonder, do you get points in your league for Hype? Maybe a point a commercial for every time Reggie appears in one.

Exhibit D Love the selective stats again.

Gotta wrap it up for the day so I guess I should stop now. Besides doing searched on MJD are tough since everyone uses the acronym and you can't search on 3 letter words.

You really think you "slapped me around" on those posts? All you did was come off looking dumb. You couldn't even refute my points. In every single one of those you sunk to personal attacks because you had nothing on me.I love the fact in Exhibit C you aren't even replying to me, yet you think you slapped me around, that's classic Oh, and BTW, in that argument, I traded up in my FF league to take Edge early in the second his rookie season. I ended up sweeping the field of 60 teams from regular newsgroup posters, including a number of the FanEx draft guys.

Exhibit D you actually agree with me, that he had more bad games than good. And you call that slapping me around. Wow.

Really, you need to stop while your head is still above ground. The hole you are digging just gets deeper and deeper and deeper.

 

[switz]

Bush/MJD threads. Ones that cover one or both. You are very familiar with these. You go in, pimp Reggie, I slap you around. You come in and bash MJD and I slap you around. This happens so often that you must have some very selective memory. Put down the bong bro....

Still waiting for you to slap me in either Nothing, absolutely nothing you've said in this thread is anything short of ridiculous. If you honestly think you are making a good argument, then you need to go back to debate school. Your argument is that the OL blocked better for FT than MJD because they like FT and wanted to get him to the Pro Bowl. Now that SAME OL is going to not block as well for FT as MJD??? You do realize that is bereft of ANY logic at all.

Aren't you the guy that actually wanted to compare Reggie Bush's first two years to Marshal Faulk's two years and stated that Bush's were better?

Reading comprehension down? Nowhere did I say Bush was better...

 

[SSOG]

Hey Switz and Fanatic, I've got an early Christmas present for each of you.

For Fanatic:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=1104

For Switz:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=2578

Please, please, don't bother waiting until December 25th before opening those. Consider it your early Christmas present to the rest of us. Thanks a bunch in advance.

 

[switz]

Hey Switz and Fanatic, I've got an early Christmas present for each of you.

For Fanatic:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=1104

For Switz:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=2578

Please, please, don't bother waiting until December 25th before opening those. Consider it your early Christmas present to the rest of us. Thanks a bunch in advance.

You're no fun at all

 

[geoff8695]

MJD in redraft is as solid a RB2 as there is with very good potential to be a RB1. However, for those of you who own MJD in dynasty leagues you already possess a top 5 RB (whether you realize it or not), and at 23 years old MJD can help your team in the short as well as the long run. It makes no difference if you're team is in rebuilding mode, a mediocre-middle of the pack, or a championship caliber team. I wouldn't dream of trading him away over the next 5 or 6 years, but if you really want to trade him - at least wait until next year when his perceived value catches up with his actual value. By this time next year MJD's value will be through the roof...

BTW, I agree with everything that Jedimaster21 and SSOG have contributed to this thread RE: MJD (and RE: the fanatic vs. Switz i-slapfest) .

SSOG has been on the right side of this argument from the very beginning and I have to give him mad props for his ability to quickly and accurately identify MJD's outlook and the concise, well-founded, and intelligent arguments he has brought here to so many threads regarding MJD. To quote wdcrob: "Glad you aren't in any of my dynasties, SSOG. That's exactly how I feel about him. Very well said."

Gotta wrap it up for the day so I guess I should stop now. Besides doing searched on MJD are tough since everyone uses the acronym and you can't search on 3 letter words.

If you still are looking for MJD threads, then try this one and feel free to add additional meaningful links that are missing:**** OFFICIAL **** MAURICE JONES DREW THREAD, multiple threads linked here b/c ‘MJD’ is unsearchable

 

[TheFanatic]

Hey Switz and Fanatic, I've got an early Christmas present for each of you.

For Fanatic:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=1104

For Switz:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=4&MID=2578

Please, please, don't bother waiting until December 25th before opening those. Consider it your early Christmas present to the rest of us. Thanks a bunch in advance.

You're no fun at all

Hey, Switz and I finally agree on something in a MJD and/or Bush thread...

 

[switz]

MJD in redraft is as solid a RB2 as there is with very good potential to be a RB1. However, for those of you who own MJD in dynasty leagues you already possess a top 5 RB (whether you realize it or not), and at 23 years old MJD can help your team in the short as well as the long run. It makes no difference if you're team is in rebuilding mode, a mediocre-middle of the pack, or a championship caliber team. I wouldn't dream of trading him away over the next 5 or 6 years, but if you really want to trade him - at least wait until next year when his perceived value catches up with his actual value. By this time next year MJD's value will be through the roof...

Really? When is the last time MJD was a top-5 RB?I agree he is an extremely talented RB, but currently he is overrated if someone thinks he is top-5.

We don't even know if he can maintain his 4.6 YPC with more work, or whether he can handle more work than he's gotten. He actually had less touches last year than his rookie year, and his YPC dropped over a whole yard.

We just need to be a little more realistic about his potential. IF you think he's top-5 who would you take him over?

LT? ADP? SJax? Westbrook? Addai? Gore? LJ? Barber? Jamal Lewis? Portis? Grant? And that list doesn't include any of the rookies form this very very good class of RBs....

 

[TheFanatic]

MJD in redraft is as solid a RB2 as there is with very good potential to be a RB1. However, for those of you who own MJD in dynasty leagues you already possess a top 5 RB (whether you realize it or not), and at 23 years old MJD can help your team in the short as well as the long run. It makes no difference if you're team is in rebuilding mode, a mediocre-middle of the pack, or a championship caliber team. I wouldn't dream of trading him away over the next 5 or 6 years, but if you really want to trade him - at least wait until next year when his perceived value catches up with his actual value. By this time next year MJD's value will be through the roof...

BTW, I agree with everything that Jedimaster21 and SSOG have contributed to this thread RE: MJD (and RE: the fanatic vs. Switz i-slapfest) .

SSOG has been on the right side of this argument from the very beginning and I have to give him mad props for his ability to quickly and accurately identify MJD's outlook and the concise, well-founded, and intelligent arguments he has brought here to so many threads regarding MJD. To quote wdcrob: "Glad you aren't in any of my dynasties, SSOG. That's exactly how I feel about him. Very well said."

Gotta wrap it up for the day so I guess I should stop now. Besides doing searched on MJD are tough since everyone uses the acronym and you can't search on 3 letter words.

If you still are looking for MJD threads, then try this one and feel free to add additional meaningful links that are missing:**** OFFICIAL **** MAURICE JONES DREW THREAD, multiple threads linked here b/c ‘MJD’ is unsearchable

I'll look into this later. Actually have work to do at the office. Go figure...

 

[jurb26]

MJD in redraft is as solid a RB2 as there is with very good potential to be a RB1. However, for those of you who own MJD in dynasty leagues you already possess a top 5 RB (whether you realize it or not), and at 23 years old MJD can help your team in the short as well as the long run. It makes no difference if you're team is in rebuilding mode, a mediocre-middle of the pack, or a championship caliber team. I wouldn't dream of trading him away over the next 5 or 6 years, but if you really want to trade him - at least wait until next year when his perceived value catches up with his actual value. By this time next year MJD's value will be through the roof...

I just traded MJD.

 

[SSOG]

Really? When is the last time MJD was a top-5 RB?I agree he is an extremely talented RB, but currently he is overrated if someone thinks he is top-5.We don't even know if he can maintain his 4.6 YPC with more work, or whether he can handle more work than he's gotten. He actually had less touches last year than his rookie year, and his YPC dropped over a whole yard.We just need to be a little more realistic about his potential. IF you think he's top-5 who would you take him over?LT? ADP? SJax? Westbrook? Addai? Gore? LJ? Barber? Jamal Lewis? Portis? Grant? And that list doesn't include any of the rookies form this very very good class of RBs....

You know we're talking Dynasty here, right? The claim was that MJD was a top-5 DYNASTY back. As for who I'd take him over on that list... LJ, Barber, JamLew, Portis, and Grant without hesitation, regardless of my current team strength. If I thought I was a SERIOUS contender for a championship in the next two seasons (i.e. not an "if things go my way, I could contend!" team, but a "on paper, I should win at least one of the next two" team), I'd take any of the others over MJD. If I didn't, then I'd take MJD over Gore, LT, or Westbrook, and I'd rank him very close to Addai (who I think is more a product of situation than talent).

 

[kingmalaki]

So for those who drafted MJD this year, what receivers did you leave on the board to take him? It seems like the spotlight and ADP has him going right around the same time the receivers not named Moss are coming off the board.

 

[BigRed]

? DraftED? Who the flip drafts in July?

It just seems if you could argue inconsistency for MJD who is likely your RB2, you could argue the same for Peterson who is likely the #2 RB taken.

Yes you could. Peterson will not be on my team this year.When FT retires I'll look seriously at Drew; not before.

 

[David Yudkin]

? DraftED? Who the flip drafts in July?

Some of my leagues drafted 3-4 months ago . . .

 

[AnonymousBob]

I realize the offensive line is decimated but so far his season isn't going very well. What are the hopes of him turning things around?

 

[munchkin]

Certainly MJD has been a disappointment but it is too early to panic four games into the season. After all the hype, based on his first year's production and last year's flashes, his performance thus far leaves his owners scratching their heads.

I own him in a dynasty league and I only hope the team starts to use him more effectively. Garrard has more confidence in himself and some of his receivers are starting to step up so he is less apt to check down to MJD. He needs to become a bigger part of the base offense and not used as an afterthought.

 

[GDogg]

Del Rio is hilarious. He starts the game with Taylor and plays him a little more than Maurice. Then, when things aren't going so well, and the Jags need points and/or huge chunks of yards, he plays Maurice much more than Fred. And, it's not like Taylor is some pounding RB that they need to "soften" the defense.

 

[SSOG]

I realize the offensive line is decimated but so far his season isn't going very well. What are the hopes of him turning things around?

He hasn't been as bad as his stats have looked when it comes to running- he's still getting the tough yards about as much as can be expected behind that second-string line, he's just not breaking any long ones or getting any goal-line plunges to pad his rushing stats. His receiving stats are still all-world (93% catch%, 10 yards per target). The talent is still there. As an MJD owner, I'm chalking this up more to game-to-game inconsistency than any cause for genuine concern.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I realize the offensive line is decimated but so far his season isn't going very well. What are the hopes of him turning things around?

He hasn't been as bad as his stats have looked when it comes to running- he's still getting the tough yards about as much as can be expected behind that second-string line, he's just not breaking any long ones or getting any goal-line plunges to pad his rushing stats. His receiving stats are still all-world (93% catch%, 10 yards per target). The talent is still there. As an MJD owner, I'm chalking this up more to game-to-game inconsistency than any cause for genuine concern.

Thanks for the input. Good to hear!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

4.4 yards/carry behind that line when he's also doing all the short yardage work is pretty solid. And with one more catch MJD will have a hundred for his career - and also have the best yards/catch average of any RB with 100 receptions that's played in the last ten years.

Meanwhile Fred Taylor has fallen off a cliff, with a 3.6 yards per carry average. That's more than a yard below his career average and at nearly 33 a pretty sure sign that he's finally lost a step.

 

[Football Jones]

I think the Jags are going to give more & more touches to MJD as the season wears on (& decrease Taylor's PT). Taylor has played lights-out the past couple of years, & I understood the RBBC approach, but it's becoming evident he's slowing down. At this point, I believe the Jags are only hurting themselves when MJD gets less than 20 touches. And he absolutely can handle a full load. The guy is built like a Mack truck.

I don't even need to look...MJD has got to be the leader in FF points-per-touch since he came into the league. When MJD does become their feature back, he might just become FF's top RB. I can't wait to see what kind of numbers he can produce as the Jags' feature back.

 

[C-Bound]

As if anyone needed another reason not to play him this week. Taylor needs 72 yds. for 11k.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor...339207627.shtml

 

[Katism]

Get your trades in for MJD. After this week, it's all gold. DEN, CLE, CIN, DET.