bulger2holt
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Near their adp or even a slight reach if needed.
There's going to be nothing sneaky about Jimmy G next year. Everyone will be targeting him late.I will be staying far away from Amari Cooper and Mike Evans at whatever their ADP is, which guarantees they'll blow up next year.
I think for anyone like me who wants to wait on QB next year, Garoppolo looks like a sneaky pick to be a repeat of this year's Wentz.
Umm... WowW/o knowing ADPs I'll just assume they'll go too late...
Jimmy Garoppolo - Will foolishly get bypassed by the younger and/or "bounce back" candidates in drafts. Guy is a stud. Can only imagine what he'll do with an entire offseason and some weapons in that offense. Him and Shanahan are a match made in heaven. The best QB in that division.
SF WR1 - Whether it's Watkins or someone else. They'll go too low.
I’m seeing a lot of slappies around here who think he’s the next big thing. Doubt he even goes “late” and therefore he’ll be too expensive for me.There's going to be nothing sneaky about Jimmy G next year. Everyone will be targeting him late.
Really wish there was a dislike button.W/o knowing ADPs I'll just assume they'll go too late...
Jimmy Garoppolo - Will foolishly get bypassed by the younger and/or "bounce back" candidates in drafts. Guy is a stud. Can only imagine what he'll do with an entire offseason and some weapons in that offense. Him and Shanahan are a match made in heaven. The best QB in that division.
SF WR1 - Whether it's Watkins or someone else. They'll go too low.
YepI’m seeing a lot of slappies around here who think he’s the next big thing. Doubt he even goes “late” and therefore he’ll be too expensive for me.
I'm going to be very wary of DJ. Historically, Woodhead and Sproles are the only CoP backs who have demonstrated reliability as starters over multiple seasons. More common are the guys like Riddick and Chris Thompson, who will occasionally have their blow-up years, but in general are hard to trust as weekly starters. Johnson likely just had his career year, and I suspect it will be hard to get value at his ADP.RB's: C. Carson, A. Jones, K. Dixon, Duke Johnson, Riddick, Burkhead.
WR's: D. Westbrook, K. Golloday, A. Thielen, R. Anderson, M. Mitchell, C. Henderson.
Garcon?SF WR1 - Whether it's Watkins or someone else. They'll go too low.
Thanks for proving exactly why JG won't be a value. I'm not saying you're wrong about this -- I don't see him overtaking Wilson, but it's certainly plausible. But the point is, while you're making predictions on the optimistic end of the spectrum, who's making the counterargument that he won't be elite? I don't see it anywhere.Jimmy Garoppolo - Will foolishly get bypassed by the younger and/or "bounce back" candidates in drafts. Guy is a stud. Can only imagine what he'll do with an entire offseason and some weapons in that offense. Him and Shanahan are a match made in heaven. The best QB in that division.
If SF upgrades their offensive weapons (which I think they will), that will make it even less likely that Jimmy is undervalued.SF WR1 - Whether it's Watkins or someone else. They'll go too low.
In my league, at least, from week 13-17, Jimmy G averaged only 18.55 ppg and was #13 QB. Not sure where #2 QB is coming from. ???Yep
It's entirely possible he gets drafted as a top 6 QB in some leagues. His ADP will be top 12, probably top 10. Whether that's legit or too high is TBD.
After all, he was the #2 QB over the last quarter of the season. His average over those games puts him on par with Brady and Rodgers for their season.
You don't get a whiff of Manziel on this guy? I perceive a lot of attitude similarities. Seems too cocky (rather than confident)Until I get a better read on what RBs might fall, Baker Mayfield = Picking late In the first of a dynasty rookie draft.
Wow that's gonna be a reach IMHOUntil I get a better read on what RBs might fall, Baker Mayfield = Picking late In the first of a dynasty rookie draft.
Last 4 games, 14-17. He didn't do much in week 13 vs the bears.In my league, at least, from week 13-17, Jimmy G averaged only 18.55 ppg and was #13 QB. Not sure where #2 QB is coming from. ???
2qb? Even the stud QBs don't usually go much higher than late 1st in my leagues.Until I get a better read on what RBs might fall, Baker Mayfield = Picking late In the first of a dynasty rookie draft.
I am so stealing this phrase. It's perfect.Jimmy G will be a sleeper next year the way Tannehill was a sleeper back in 2015, when SI put him on the cover under the headline "Draft Day Steal". Call them "Schrodinger's Sleepers", where all the buzz about their sleeper status ends up ensuring that they're overvalued.
Ah. I see. He's QB4 in my league in ppg if you throw out Wentz and Rodgers one game played each in that same span.Last 4 games, 14-17. He didn't do much in week 13 vs the bears.
I'm asking for a friend...why Crowder?J. Crowder. Evan Engram when Bill Bellichick comes to coach the g-men.because ya know, hes coming. i can have hope right?
Eli Manning whrn he signs with Jax
if Josh McCown can put up pretty gawdy numbers even for him Im sure Kirk Cousins will be superb in a Jets uni.
If the Bills need a wr offer your two first to Gmen for OBJ. or if youre SF offer a first and a 2019 first for OBJ. he might do well with Jimmy G.
D. Watson.
Bears' Rb Howard proved everyone wrong.hes a STUD. 2 years running now.
Zeke Elliott at any price is gonna be a bargain..
has K. Drake become a must have RB in Miami??
D. Hopkins.absolute stud.
Simon & Schuster JuJu whatshisname from Pitt
Shaheen playing the Kelce roll...Hiring of NageyFor redraft..
QB - Mahomes (tons of talent and surrounded by a lot of weapons)
RB - Mixon (still believe he is the most talented RB from last years class and an average rookie year keeps his price down)
WR - R. Woods (I think he will remain underpriced as the true WR1 of the Rams offense)
TE - A. Shaheen (Love the talent, and I think the Bears offense is on the way up with Trubisky. A startable TE that you can get for free)
IMO, it's a foregone conclusion that he won't be a sleeper. The real question is, can he deliver value at par? If he's drafted in the top 7, can he finish there?I am so stealing this phrase. It's perfect.
The best parallel I can remember to JG is Nick Foles. On the heels of his 27 TD/2 INT half-season in 2013 I'm sure you could find posts on this board from early '14 tagging him as a "sleeper to target" that summer.
By the time draft season got going in earnest, his ADP settled in at right around QB7, just ahead of Tom Brady. I fully expect the hype on Jimmy G to snowball to the point where he's going at approximately the same place. In other words, ummmm, not a sleeper.
Every league is different. My league, QBs are top point producers. We have deep benches so if you can get a top dynasty QB you get the top points and an advantage plus it frees up a bench spot to take flyers on RBs/WRs/TEs/and IDPs.2qb? Even the stud QBs don't usually go much higher than late 1st in my leagues.
Agreed and am heavily interested in both for next season, their skill sets are a perfect match with one another.Tyree Hill.. With Manhomes will definitely be used more often
Saw a stat that hill only had 130 some odd targets in 31 games played, that is criminal. That has to change with Mahomes arm.Tyree Hill.. With Manhomes will definitely be used more often
It seems like this is the case with Stafford every season. Always available later in my drafts and the value is there if you wait on QB like I do.For example, I had no idea until I just checked that Stafford was QB7. It didn't *feel* like he was that good. If other owners share that assessment (and as a point of reference, Matthew Berry's early rankings have him QB14), he could be a value. (By contrast, Brees and Ben and QB10/11 were probably worse than what most people thought they were, because they have a rep as elite QBs).
Like I said, these aren't fully-formed strategies yet, but that's probably how I'll go about targeting QBs next year.
136 receptions.Saw a stat that hill only had 130 some odd targets in 31 games played, that is criminal. That has to change with Mahomes arm.
Sure, every league is different. I've just never been in one that wasn't 2qb where the 5th best QB went in the first round.Every league is different. My league, QBs are top point producers. We have deep benches so if you can get a top dynasty QB you get the top points and an advantage plus it frees up a bench spot to take flyers on RBs/WRs/TEs/and IDPs.
QBs and WR have the longest dynasty FF lifespans so that advantage carries forward longer as well.
I like to have one top QB, one 'solid' veteran QB and I like to have one developmental young QB. I'm picking near the bottom of the round so Mayfield is my target unless I have a shot at landing a solid RB and I have to do a lot of homework on the RBs.
The top RBs go very early in our rookie draft so I'm being realistic about who might fall to my pick.
I have to add:RB's: C. Carson, A. Jones, K. Dixon, Duke Johnson, Riddick, Burkhead.
WR's: D. Westbrook, K. Golloday, A. Thielen, R. Anderson, M. Mitchell, C. Henderson.
This is the right answer to the OP. Everyone will convince themselves to target someone other than Garcon and, if he's healthy, he's going to put up 100-1200-7 or somesuch.Garcon?
In my league he was QB#22 in PPG over the span of all his starts and QB#14 over his last four. Not sure how he could reach #2 in any scoring format.Yep
It's entirely possible he gets drafted as a top 6 QB in some leagues. His ADP will be top 12, probably top 10. Whether that's legit or too high is TBD.
After all, he was the #2 QB over the last quarter of the season. His average over those games puts him on par with Brady and Rodgers for their season.
I don't understand why this guy gets continually undervalued. He finished as the #6 WR in my league this year (#5 in PPG) after finishing #13 last year (#14 PPG). Are people still not going to value him as a legit stud #1 WR?Tyree Hill.. With Manhomes will definitely be used more often
There is no legitimate argument for "throwing out" Wentz and Rodgers because there is no legitimate argument that both of them would have been outperformed by Jimmy Garoppolo over any number of games if all of them were healthy.Ah. I see. He's QB4 in my league in ppg if you throw out Wentz and Rodgers one game played each in that same span.
I know plenty of people have called you out for that comment but...still gonna.Jimmy Garoppolo - Will foolishly get bypassed by the younger and/or "bounce back" candidates in drafts. Guy is a stud. Can only imagine what he'll do with an entire offseason and some weapons in that offense. Him and Shanahan are a match made in heaven. The best QB in that division.
You misspelled "no"Umm... WowW/o knowing ADPs I'll just assume they'll go too late...
Jimmy Garoppolo - Will foolishly get bypassed by the younger and/or "bounce back" candidates in drafts. Guy is a stud. Can only imagine what he'll do with an entire offseason and some weapons in that offense. Him and Shanahan are a match made in heaven. The best QB in that division.
SF WR1 - Whether it's Watkins or someone else. They'll go too low.