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I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Opportunity cost. Had you chosen a team capable to win it all, you could have won $. Therefore, you lost $ by not doing so ;)
I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Different strokes...I just happen to like a chance at free money better than free fun.

If someone gave me a lottery ticket with the numbers already selected, I wouldn't tear up the ticket and pick my own numbers just to see how I would do.
Ok, I get it. You don't agree with the approach I took to this contest. Why? I have no idea, but I'd like to direct your helpful suggestions to those that didn't enter the contest at all. They made even less effort than I to get the "free money". I'm sure their PM boxes are working and able to take incoming messages.Again, I spent an hour on this, I wanted to challenge myself to pick a winning stratagy - I have 8 playing this weekend with a scenario that has me with 10 playing in the final week (if I get there). I truly enjoyed the process to see how I'd do going in blind and narrowing down possible scenarios in about an hour's time. I think I did OK, although I realize I'm probably not winning.

In the example you mention, if the lotto ticket was for the same amount as the winnings here, and there was an actual stratagy to picking the numbers (similar to picking games and then applying mathematical stratagies), then most likely I would rip up a free ticket that had no guarantee to win and I'd try my own numbers instead.

Now, if that ticket was for a substantial amount of money? You'd be damned sure I'd use every single piece of history and strategy that I could get my grubby little hands on.

I'm having fun, man. Let me be. :)

ETA - And Warrior, I think I do have a team capable to win it all. Probable? No. But in one scenario I have 10 playing. There's a chance (depending on the other teams I'm competing against). I'm not betting the house on it, though. If I had the time I could probably prove that I have no chance of winning (because someone picked the same teams as I did yet took more players from those teams), but it'll be fun to see what happens. I'm more interested in watching other's teams, to be honest. I want to see how they win, and why. What decisions did they make, who did they pick, and hopefully they'll post as to why they picked who they did, or if they just randomly picked a team and its players.
I looked at your team and there's nothing wrong with it. There are only 26 live entries that have more Seattle and Indy players than you do, and 17 of them have fewer players scoring for them this weekend than you do, so many of them aren't going to survive. No one has your exact combo of 10 SEA-IND players plus more, so it's not like you're completely covered by another entry.

If the Super Bowl ends up being Seattle vs. Indy (certainly possible), and your team is still alive (certainly possible, since you'll have 8 scores this weekend and potentially 6 scores in Week 3) you'd have a good shot of placing in the money.
Iggy is there a querier up for this contest?
 
I wish there was a way to know how many entries there were leading up to the games last weekend, similar to what Fanduel does for their larger contests. It would have affected my strategy significantly to know there were only 4,100 or so entries this year. Rather than aiming for 100 points and investing in 6 players in the wild card games, I would have estimated that 50 points would make the cut and loaded up on more Den/Sea players (my projected SB). Not knowing the number of entries makes this contest almost as much about guessing how many people enter as it does predicting actual football outcomes.

There was actually one entry who only had TY Hilton playing last weekend and made the cut...nice call on his part.

 
Tom Brady
Shane Vereen
Stevan Ridley
Danny Amendola
Stephen Gostkowski
New England Patriots

Andy Dalton
Giovani Bernard
A.J. Green




Keenan Allen


DeAngelo Williams
Ted Ginn
Carolina Panthers


Colin Kaepernick
Frank Gore
Michael Crabtree
Vernon Davis
Phil Dawson
San Francisco 49ers

Jimmy Graham

Well...if I make it through this week, and next, I'd have 12 guys in a SF/NE Superbowl. Lost 3 guys last week but still have Graham and Allen as point producers this week.

I still hate the fact that this was my first, and only, iteration of my roster.

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
rustycolts said:
Iggy is there a querier up for this contest?
Not that I know of, I just made my own.
With the risk of sounding dumb, how do you quickly build this or at least quickly get the source data? All that I see access to is the standings page where you have to click 1 by 1 to see other rosters. I haven't been able to get this percent owned stats link to work. http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/percentown.htm <<<<

Am I covered as there still a sliver of hope. Only 6 going this week.

[SIZE=12pt]Peter Piper[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]This entry is still alive.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Peyton Manning $35 0.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Knowshon Moreno $19 0.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Demaryius Thomas $20 0.00 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Wes Welker $12 0.00 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Julius Thomas $16 0.00 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Matt Prater $12 0.00 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Marvin Jones $10 21.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Mike Nugent $8 6.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Donald Brown $7 24.20[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Adam Vinatieri $8 10.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Ryan Succop $7 18.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Alex Henery $8 7.00[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Colin Kaepernick $25 26.15[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Frank Gore $14 14.20[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Anquan Boldin $14 6.80 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Vernon Davis $15 12.70 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]Phil Dawson $11 12.00 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]San Francisco 49ers $9 4.00 [/SIZE]

 
bbdut said:
I wish there was a way to know how many entries there were leading up to the games last weekend, similar to what Fanduel does for their larger contests. It would have affected my strategy significantly to know there were only 4,100 or so entries this year. Rather than aiming for 100 points and investing in 6 players in the wild card games, I would have estimated that 50 points would make the cut and loaded up on more Den/Sea players (my projected SB). Not knowing the number of entries makes this contest almost as much about guessing how many people enter as it does predicting actual football outcomes.

There was actually one entry who only had TY Hilton playing last weekend and made the cut...nice call on his part.
In retrospect, the day late start probably was in indicator it would be closer to the cut than last year, as was how often they promoted it and when. But really I think historical data is the best way to go and because of that many of us planned for higher. And that TY Hilton entry got VERY lucky indeed!

 
If you get both Super Bowl teams, you win. I have done math to back this up (as I have in other years) but you'll win.


-QG
I think this is the ultimate goal in creating your entry. Not sure if it's true enough for mine.

Also, I am both surprised and not surprised Bengals were one of your SB teams. Sometimes I end up going less on teams I like in real life figuring I give myself a way to be happy with and without their success. That's been admittedly pretty easy as a Rams fan these past few years. :bag:

 
I figure another team put a lineup like this together without wasting the money I did on Charles/Green. A team I have no chance to beat even if I advanced all the way and got a Denver vs SEA or Denver vs SF Super Bowl. Figure my 8 or 9 players won't be enough to cover the team that used the Charles/Green money on more SB players.

I will only have 7 players going this week so won't easy to pass. If I make it through this week I'll be alive in the SB if Denver, SF and Seattle win. Denver loses anytime before the SB nothing else matters. If Seattle and SF both lose this week I'm done but if one of them win this week along with Denver I'd have a chance to survive. If I can get to that point I'll worry about looking over the teams I can't beat and see if I have anything to root for in the SB.

Denver:

Peyton

Moreno

DT

Welker

Decker

JThomas

Seattle:

Wilson

Lynch

Harvin

San Fran:

Kapernick

Vernon

New Orleans:

Ingram

KC:

Charles

Cincy:

Green

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
rustycolts said:
Iggy is there a querier up for this contest?
Not that I know of, I just made my own.
With the risk of sounding dumb, how do you quickly build this or at least quickly get the source data?
I scrape all the rosters off the website into a database. Kind of like clicking on each entry and copying and pasting all the players, except I have the computer do it for me really quickly.

Am I covered as there still a sliver of hope. Only 6 going this week.
There are six other live entries that have all the same 12 DEN/SF players as you, as well as at least 2 more players from those teams:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100307.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101390.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102125.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102424.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102546.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/103820.php

 
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Tom Brady

Shane Vereen

Stevan Ridley

Danny Amendola

Stephen Gostkowski

New England Patriots

Andy Dalton

Giovani Bernard

A.J. Green

Keenan Allen

DeAngelo Williams

Ted Ginn

Carolina Panthers

Colin Kaepernick

Frank Gore

Michael Crabtree

Vernon Davis

Phil Dawson

San Francisco 49ers

Jimmy Graham

Well...if I make it through this week, and next, I'd have 12 guys in a SF/NE Superbowl. Lost 3 guys last week but still have Graham and Allen as point producers this week.

I still hate the fact that this was my first, and only, iteration of my roster.
These entries have the same 12 SF/NE players as you, as well as several more:

SF-NE URL

22 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101394.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100240.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101286.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101593.php

17 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102179.php

17 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/103587.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100299.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101695.php

15 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102495.php

14 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101190.php

 
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If you get both Super Bowl teams, you win. I have done math to back this up (as I have in other years) but you'll win.


-QG
I think this is the ultimate goal in creating your entry. Not sure if it's true enough for mine.

Also, I am both surprised and not surprised Bengals were one of your SB teams. Sometimes I end up going less on teams I like in real life figuring I give myself a way to be happy with and without their success. That's been admittedly pretty easy as a Rams fan these past few years. :bag:
Bengals fit the profile of bottom 4 seed getting in there IMO. I was rather reluctant to take two bye week teams. They should have beaten San Diego and would've been facing a New England team they had beaten previously - I liked their prospects better than the other 3 bottom seeds in the AFC. Carolina at 75 bucks was too good to pass up in the NFC. That played heavily into it. I didn't wanna jinx 'em in past years but shockingly came to the conclusion that my entries in these contests have little to do with whether they do or do not advance ;)

My alterverse chalk entry of Denver/Seattle (which I posted earlier in the thread) probably won't make it through these 2 middle weeks. If it does, though, I'll be definitely kicking myself.

-QG

 
The worst thing for me is that I picked the Baltimore - San Francisco Super Bowl a year early. Would've won the contest if those teams had made it for Super XLVI :ptts:

-QG

 
Tom Brady

Shane Vereen

Stevan Ridley

Danny Amendola

Stephen Gostkowski

New England Patriots

Andy Dalton

Giovani Bernard

A.J. Green

Keenan Allen

DeAngelo Williams

Ted Ginn

Carolina Panthers

Colin Kaepernick

Frank Gore

Michael Crabtree

Vernon Davis

Phil Dawson

San Francisco 49ers

Jimmy Graham

Well...if I make it through this week, and next, I'd have 12 guys in a SF/NE Superbowl. Lost 3 guys last week but still have Graham and Allen as point producers this week.

I still hate the fact that this was my first, and only, iteration of my roster.
These entries have the same 12 SF/NE players as you, as well as several more:

SF-NE URL

22 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101394.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100240.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101286.php

19 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101593.php

17 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102179.php

17 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/103587.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100299.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101695.php

15 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102495.php

14 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101190.php
Damn...well, my only hope with these entries is that they get picked off this week or next.

I have 8 guys going this weekend.

From these 10 teams above...two have 4 guys, two have 5, two have 6, two have 8, one has 9 and one has 10.

Gotta think the guys with less than 8 may struggle. I need Graham and Allen to help me more than they did last week. Ideally, NO and SD will win as will SF and NE, and I'll get to use Jimmy and Keenan next week too! If I get that lucky, I like those two adding to my point total.

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
rustycolts said:
Iggy is there a querier up for this contest?
Not that I know of, I just made my own.
With the risk of sounding dumb, how do you quickly build this or at least quickly get the source data?
I scrape all the rosters off the website into a database. Kind of like clicking on each entry and copying and pasting all the players, except I have the computer do it for me really quickly.

Am I covered as there still a sliver of hope. Only 6 going this week.
There are six other live entries that have all the same 12 DEN/SF players as you, as well as at least 2 more players from those teams:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100307.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/101390.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102125.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102424.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102546.php

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/103820.php
Thanks for running this data. Seems like this first entry is the biggest threat to survive the next two rounds. Need a saints loss this week, and for Hilton to have a down game in AFC championship.

 
Iggy any chance other than slim and none with these guys left?

Manning

Moreno

D Thomas

Decker

J Thomas

Prater

Broncos

D Brown

Vinatieri

Chargers

Kearse

Kaep

Gore

Boldin

thanks.

 
Injuries to teams players that make the Super Bowl could have something to do with who wins and who doesn't. Players get injured every week that are unable to play the next week or two.

 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25
RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19
RB - Frank Gore - 14
RB - Donald Brown - 7
RB - Kendall Hunter - 4
WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20
WR - Eric Decker - 18
WR - Anquan Boldin - 14
WR - Michael Crabtree - 13
TE - Julius Thomas - 16
TE - Vernon Davis - 15
PK - Matt Prater - 12
PK - Phil Dawson - 11
TD - Denver Broncos - 9
TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9
TD - New Orleans Saints - 5
TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
You need SF and DEN to get there. Only 7 counting this week will not be easy to get to the next round.

 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Well if you do make it past this week you will put me out.So I guess good luck.
 
Hey Iggy, I'm sure you're being inundated with these requests but any chance you can run the math on my team?

Drew Brees

Darren Sproles

Marcus Colston

Jimmy Graham

Shayne Graham

Peyton Manning

Knowhom Moreno

Demarius Thomas

Wes Welker

Julius Thomas

Matt Prater

Tom Brady

Steven Gostkowski

Andrew Luck

TY Hilton

Mike Nugent (out)

Andrew Hawkins (out)

Assuming my SB teams advance then I'm guaranteed 6 for the next round so feel good about getting to SB. So on the outside chance it happens can you show me teams that have me covered? Appreciate any info you can provide. Really appreciate it. Thanks.

 
Hey Iggy, I'm sure you're being inundated with these requests but any chance you can run the math on my team?

Drew Brees

Darren Sproles

Marcus Colston

Jimmy Graham

Shayne Graham

Peyton Manning

Knowhom Moreno

Demarius Thomas

Wes Welker

Julius Thomas

Matt Prater

Tom Brady

Steven Gostkowski

Andrew Luck

TY Hilton

Mike Nugent (out)

Andrew Hawkins (out)

Assuming my SB teams advance then I'm guaranteed 6 for the next round so feel good about getting to SB. So on the outside chance it happens can you show me teams that have me covered? Appreciate any info you can provide. Really appreciate it. Thanks.
NO-DEN URL

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100359.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102320.php

15 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/104008.php

 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.

 
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.Looks like if it does turn out to be a Bronco 49er Super Bowl J Dog has about the best shot.He has 7 players going this week as compared to my 8.Looks like the rest of the teams only have 4 scoring this week that will be tough to make the cut with those numbers.So if its a Bronco 49er Superbowl I think you have a great shot Jdog

 
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.Looks like if it does turn out to be a Bronco 49er Super Bowl J Dog has about the best shot.He has 7 players going this week as compared to my 8.Looks like the rest of the teams only have 4 scoring this week that will be tough to make the cut with those numbers.So if its a Bronco 49er Superbowl I think you have a great shot Jdog
I think he's going to have a tough time advancing. His non SB team players include two weak DST plays in NO and SD.

 
Hey Iggy, I'm sure you're being inundated with these requests but any chance you can run the math on my team?

Drew Brees

Darren Sproles

Marcus Colston

Jimmy Graham

Shayne Graham

Peyton Manning

Knowhom Moreno

Demarius Thomas

Wes Welker

Julius Thomas

Matt Prater

Tom Brady

Steven Gostkowski

Andrew Luck

TY Hilton

Mike Nugent (out)

Andrew Hawkins (out)

Assuming my SB teams advance then I'm guaranteed 6 for the next round so feel good about getting to SB. So on the outside chance it happens can you show me teams that have me covered? Appreciate any info you can provide. Really appreciate it. Thanks.
NO-DEN URL16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/100359.php

16 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/102320.php

15 http://subscribers.footballguys.com/playoffcontest/2013/104008.php
Thanks!

 
I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Opportunity cost. Had you chosen a team capable to win it all, you could have won $. Therefore, you lost $ by not doing so ;)
I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Different strokes...I just happen to like a chance at free money better than free fun.

If someone gave me a lottery ticket with the numbers already selected, I wouldn't tear up the ticket and pick my own numbers just to see how I would do.
Ok, I get it. You don't agree with the approach I took to this contest. Why? I have no idea, but I'd like to direct your helpful suggestions to those that didn't enter the contest at all. They made even less effort than I to get the "free money". I'm sure their PM boxes are working and able to take incoming messages.Again, I spent an hour on this, I wanted to challenge myself to pick a winning stratagy - I have 8 playing this weekend with a scenario that has me with 10 playing in the final week (if I get there). I truly enjoyed the process to see how I'd do going in blind and narrowing down possible scenarios in about an hour's time. I think I did OK, although I realize I'm probably not winning.

In the example you mention, if the lotto ticket was for the same amount as the winnings here, and there was an actual stratagy to picking the numbers (similar to picking games and then applying mathematical stratagies), then most likely I would rip up a free ticket that had no guarantee to win and I'd try my own numbers instead.

Now, if that ticket was for a substantial amount of money? You'd be damned sure I'd use every single piece of history and strategy that I could get my grubby little hands on.

I'm having fun, man. Let me be. :)

ETA - And Warrior, I think I do have a team capable to win it all. Probable? No. But in one scenario I have 10 playing. There's a chance (depending on the other teams I'm competing against). I'm not betting the house on it, though. If I had the time I could probably prove that I have no chance of winning (because someone picked the same teams as I did yet took more players from those teams), but it'll be fun to see what happens. I'm more interested in watching other's teams, to be honest. I want to see how they win, and why. What decisions did they make, who did they pick, and hopefully they'll post as to why they picked who they did, or if they just randomly picked a team and its players.
I looked at your team and there's nothing wrong with it. There are only 26 live entries that have more Seattle and Indy players than you do, and 17 of them have fewer players scoring for them this weekend than you do, so many of them aren't going to survive. No one has your exact combo of 10 SEA-IND players plus more, so it's not like you're completely covered by another entry.

If the Super Bowl ends up being Seattle vs. Indy (certainly possible), and your team is still alive (certainly possible, since you'll have 8 scores this weekend and potentially 6 scores in Week 3) you'd have a good shot of placing in the money.
Thanks, IE.

When I was getting close to the end of my hour limit that I set for myself, I decided Indy was my dark horse to get to the Super Bowl in the AFC. I felt getting a few players on an unpopular pick would be a nice strat to try, so I took a couple high ceiling players from that team (hopefully to outscore anyone else who had some Indy players they threw in just as filler).

Thanks for running the numbers, and if I may ask a question - how do you run the numbers for this? Is it a program you download the data into and then sort? I have been busy lately and haven't really looked at how they post their data.

*ETA* Obviously I wasn't the only one wondering about this :lol: I posted this response and then read the rest of the thread with similar questions. Apologies.

 
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One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.
Cool. What would you have done differently with this roster? Should I have had two or three fewer SF and Den players for a better shot at advancing?

 
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.Looks like if it does turn out to be a Bronco 49er Super Bowl J Dog has about the best shot.He has 7 players going this week as compared to my 8.Looks like the rest of the teams only have 4 scoring this week that will be tough to make the cut with those numbers.So if its a Bronco 49er Superbowl I think you have a great shot Jdog
I think SF wins it all this year. That said, I do think that Denver is vulnerable.

 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.
Cool. What would you have done differently with this roster? Should I have had two or three fewer SF and Den players for a better shot at advancing?
:shrug: It's always a guessing game. You're going to have 7 scores this week and potentially 6 scores next week. That could be enough to get you there, then you just have to hope for a DEN-SF Super Bowl.

 
If I plug in Dodds's projections, the cutoff for this week will be 136.80, just to give everyone an idea of what kind of score it might take.

The fun/frustrating part of this contest is that it's littered with teams like this one that will almost certainly survive this week and probably next week as well, but has absolutely no shot of placing in the money. So he's basically just wasting a spot in the final 1,000.

 
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One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.
Cool. What would you have done differently with this roster? Should I have had two or three fewer SF and Den players for a better shot at advancing?
:shrug: It's always a guessing game. You're going to have 7 scores this week and potentially 6 scores next week. That could be enough to get you there, then you just have to hope for a DEN-SF Super Bowl.
Thanks.

 
Went for an IND/SF superbowl. Will have 8 scores this week, but only 6 the next week (assuming SF/IND win). Figured not many would go IND/SF so just took a long shot.

Just realized I had clicked on Cin D instead of IND def.. so that likely messes up my shot in the Superbowl...

 
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I decided to go for a DEN/SEA superbowl but decided to forgo QB's for other players that cost less

Probably put myself out of the running with this decision. Hopefully I still ave a shot.

Code:
Knowshon Moreno          $19      0.00 Montee Ball               $8      0.00 Eric Decker              $18      0.00 Denver Broncos            $9      0.00 Shane Vereen              $9      0.00 LeGarrette Blount         $8      0.00 Stevan Ridley             $5      0.00 Danny Amendola            $8      0.00 Josh Boyce                $3      0.00 Giovani Bernard          $14     15.30 Mohamed Sanu              $6      2.30 Knile Davis               $3     25.50 Dwayne Bowe              $10     29.00 Marshawn Lynch           $16      0.00 Robert Turbin             $3      0.00 Doug Baldwin             $12      0.00 Golden Tate              $12      0.00 Percy Harvin              $9      0.00 Jermaine Kearse           $6      0.00 Steve Hauschka           $10      0.00 Seattle Seahawks          $8      0.00 DeAngelo Williams         $7      0.00 Mike Tolbert              $3      0.00 LeSean McCoy             $18     17.20 Bryce Brown               $4      0.00 Brent Celek               $6      4.60 Mario Manningham          $3      0.00 Darren Sproles            $8      8.00 Kenny Stills              $5      6.60
 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.
Cool. What would you have done differently with this roster? Should I have had two or three fewer SF and Den players for a better shot at advancing?
I don't think I would have done anything different if its a 49er Bronco Super Bowl you are in good shape. If you had went with less players from your Super Bowl pick then you probably would not have had enough players to beat a team like mine for an example.If you had went with more then you would have teams like Iggy posted for us with only 4 players scoring this weekend which I think will be difficult to make the cut with ( but what do I know my wife picked my team).In any event here's hoping for a 49er Bronco Super Bowl.
 
One of the reasons I love this contest is that it's so flexible I haven't even figured out how to win it yet :)

Do I have a shot?

QB - Peyton Manning - 35

QB - Colin Kaepernick - 25

RB - Knowshon Moreno - 19

RB - Frank Gore - 14

RB - Donald Brown - 7

RB - Kendall Hunter - 4

WR - Demaryius Thomas - 20

WR - Eric Decker - 18

WR - Anquan Boldin - 14

WR - Michael Crabtree - 13

TE - Julius Thomas - 16

TE - Vernon Davis - 15

PK - Matt Prater - 12

PK - Phil Dawson - 11

TD - Denver Broncos - 9

TD - San Francisco 49ers - 9

TD - New Orleans Saints - 5

TD - San Diego Chargers - 4
Nobody's got you completely covered in a DEN-SF Super Bowl. Just to make sure it's clear what this means, there are a few teams that have more than 15 players combined from Denver and SF, but there are no teams that have your same 15 players plus at least one more.
Cool. What would you have done differently with this roster? Should I have had two or three fewer SF and Den players for a better shot at advancing?
I don't think I would have done anything different if its a 49er Bronco Super Bowl you are in good shape. If you had went with less players from your Super Bowl pick then you probably would not have had enough players to beat a team like mine for an example.If you had went with more then you would have teams like Iggy posted for us with only 4 players scoring this weekend which I think will be difficult to make the cut with ( but what do I know my wife picked my team).In any event here's hoping for a 49er Bronco Super Bowl.
So do you think the best balance is heavy SB players then to squeak by with just enough scattered players from the remaining playoff teams? This contest is fascinating.

 
I think that's the only way to win it. That's why I almost like it better than the regular season contest. The strategy is set. It's picking the teams and players that makes it difficult.

 
So do you think the best balance is heavy SB players then to squeak by with just enough scattered players from the remaining playoff teams? This contest is fascinating.
That's definitely the correct strategy. The trick is picking the two Super Bowl teams, and then figuring out how to load up on those two teams while balancing it with other players to help you get there.

 
Peyton Manning $35 Knowshon Moreno $19 Eric Decker $18 Wes Welker $12 Denver Broncos $9 LeGarrette Blount $8 A.J. Green $19 Jamaal Charles $16 Marshawn Lynch $16 Golden Tate $12 Steve Hauschka $10 Seattle Seahawks $8 Mike Tolbert $3 Frank Gore $14 Anquan Boldin $14 Drew Brees $21 Jimmy Graham $16 Probably a lot of teams with very similar Den/Sea lineups, eh?

 
I seem to struggle with this contest every year, and spent less than 30 minutes setting my line up. My strategy was to pick an unlikely SB made of wild card round teams, and supplement with a couple studs from good teams. Focused on a Philly-San Diego SB, with a fall back of Green Bay. Any chance I can compete if the Chargers run the table, and face the Panthers? :o :moneybag:

Here's my line up. I figure very few went Chargers heavy.

Shane Vereen $9

Marvin Jones $10

Donald Brown $7

Jamaal Charles $16
Kansas City Chiefs $8

Philip Rivers $16
Ryan Mathews $8
Danny Woodhead $7
Eddie Royal $7
Nick Novak $6


Mike Tolbert $3
Brandon LaFell $7

Nick Foles $24
LeSean McCoy $18
DeSean Jackson $16
Brent Celek $6
Alex Henery $8
Philadelphia Eagles $7

Aaron Rodgers $17
James Starks $3
Jordy Nelson $11
Mason Crosby $6

Anquan Boldin $14

Jimmy Graham $16

 
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If I plug in Dodds's projections, the cutoff for this week will be 136.80, just to give everyone an idea of what kind of score it might take.

The fun/frustrating part of this contest is that it's littered with teams like this one that will almost certainly survive this week and probably next week as well, but has absolutely no shot of placing in the money. So he's basically just wasting a spot in the final 1,000.
Iggy if that number is right and with the way Blount and Colston scored tonight it probably is.I am going to need a miracle tommorow to make the cut.
 
I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Opportunity cost. Had you chosen a team capable to win it all, you could have won $. Therefore, you lost $ by not doing so ;)
I mention 8 because that's the more important number this weekend. Personally I have 13 playing this weekend, but only 6 will count. I was shooting for 7. Somewhere between 7-8 is optimal imo.

If NO makes the SB agaisnt Den you will be kicking yourself for picking two extra Colts. That will be the difference between placing in the teens and being forgotten v. placing in the money.

When we get to the SB Iggy will likely run the numbers for the 1000 remaining and show that about a dozen teams of the 1000 have a mathmatically chance of winning.
I'll be fine. No kicking. I knew others were basing their stratagy off of past winners. I consciously didn't do that, just to see what I could come up with. I figured I wouldn't win, but wanted to see how I'd do. It's free, so no loss.
Different strokes...I just happen to like a chance at free money better than free fun.

If someone gave me a lottery ticket with the numbers already selected, I wouldn't tear up the ticket and pick my own numbers just to see how I would do.
Ok, I get it. You don't agree with the approach I took to this contest. Why? I have no idea, but I'd like to direct your helpful suggestions to those that didn't enter the contest at all. They made even less effort than I to get the "free money". I'm sure their PM boxes are working and able to take incoming messages.

Again, I spent an hour on this, I wanted to challenge myself to pick a winning stratagy - I have 8 playing this weekend with a scenario that has me with 10 playing in the final week (if I get there). I truly enjoyed the process to see how I'd do going in blind and narrowing down possible scenarios in about an hour's time. I think I did OK, although I realize I'm probably not winning.

In the example you mention, if the lotto ticket was for the same amount as the winnings here, and there was an actual stratagy to picking the numbers (similar to picking games and then applying mathematical stratagies), then most likely I would rip up a free ticket that had no guarantee to win and I'd try my own numbers instead.

Now, if that ticket was for a substantial amount of money? You'd be damned sure I'd use every single piece of history and strategy that I could get my grubby little hands on.

I'm having fun, man. Let me be. :)

ETA - And Warrior, I think I do have a team capable to win it all. Probable? No. But in one scenario I have 10 playing. There's a chance (depending on the other teams I'm competing against). I'm not betting the house on it, though. If I had the time I could probably prove that I have no chance of winning (because someone picked the same teams as I did yet took more players from those teams), but it'll be fun to see what happens. I'm more interested in watching other's teams, to be honest. I want to see how they win, and why. What decisions did they make, who did they pick, and hopefully they'll post as to why they picked who they did, or if they just randomly picked a team and its players.
Mathematically, you didn't have a team capable of winning it all.

But I have no problem with that. Whatever floats your boat. I just generally take issue with the whole "I didn't pay anything therefore I don't lose anything by forgoing an opportunity to win $" approach.

 
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I seem to struggle with this contest every year, and spent less than 30 minutes setting my line up. My strategy was to pick an unlikely SB made of wild card round teams, and supplement with a couple studs from good teams. Focused on a Philly-San Diego SB, with a fall back of Green Bay. Any chance I can compete if the Chargers run the table, and face the Panthers? :o :moneybag:

Here's my line up. I figure very few went Chargers heavy.

Shane Vereen $9

Marvin Jones $10

Donald Brown $7

Jamaal Charles $16

Kansas City Chiefs $8

Philip Rivers $16

Ryan Mathews $8

Danny Woodhead $7

Eddie Royal $7

Nick Novak $6

Mike Tolbert $3

Brandon LaFell $7

Nick Foles $24

LeSean McCoy $18

DeSean Jackson $16

Brent Celek $6

Alex Henery $8

Philadelphia Eagles $7

Aaron Rodgers $17

James Starks $3

Jordy Nelson $11

Mason Crosby $6

Anquan Boldin $14

Jimmy Graham $16
You have 7 possible players in the bowl. Other teams remianing going into this weekend with a SD/CAR bowl have 14 (2), 13 (1), 12 (2), 11 (8), 10 (11), and 9 (20). You have zero chance of winning.

Honestly your entry had no chance the moment you select $37 worth of GB players after going Philly heavy and hit submit.

 

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