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Police union calls for boycott of Beyonce's world tour (1 Viewer)

timschochet

timschochet

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/19/us/beyonce-police-boycott/

CNN)Support for a national law enforcement boycott of Beyonce's world tour appears to be picking up steam, even as critics dismiss the action as unnecessary.

The Miami Fraternal Order of Police urged the boycott Thursday ahead of the tour's April launch at Marlins Park. But backlash against Beyonce started almost immediately after the superstar singer's release of her controversial "Formation" music video and Super Bowl 50 halftime show performance earlier this month.

Critics have objected to the #BlackLivesMatter themes in both, and specifically to her backup dancers at the halftime performance being outfitted in Black Panther-like costumes. 

In one portion of the music video, a young African-American boy wearing a hoodie dances before a line of police officers wearing riot gear before the words "Stop Shooting Us" appear in graffiti on a wall.

"To taint police officers globally in the Super Bowl is really wrong," said Sgt. Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association in New York City.

Mullins said the boycott, which he supports, would involve officers refusing to work paid off-duty security for the event, not refusing to perform regular law enforcement duties.
 
So one public union tries to make news and succeeds at the hands of tim. 

It's one union in one city calling for this. I'm sure Beyonce will be a survivor. 

(See what I did there?)

 
rockaction said:
So one public union tries to make news and succeeds at the hands of tim. 

It's one union in one city calling for this. I'm sure Beyonce will be a survivor. 

(See what I did there?)
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Hey it was featured on CNN. Apparently it started off with one union and has spread now. So yeah it's news. 

 
It's news only because our news media had morphed into celebrity driven newstorys.  Uber drivers going on shooting sprees is news.  Republicans refusing to approve Obama's Supreme Court Justice nomination is news.  This is TMZ garbage. 

 
General Malaise said:
It's news only because our news media had morphed into celebrity driven newstorys.  Uber drivers going on shooting sprees is news.  Republicans refusing to approve Obama's Supreme Court Justice nomination is news.  This is TMZ garbage. 
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I kind of disagree. 

Whats important about this story is that a lot of police are pissed off at the perception about them that they believe is being made by the media and by the black community. And this has already had repercussions for the coming election, with Hillary pointedly on the side of young blacks who have been shot and Republicans strongly supporting law and order. 

 
dickey moe said:
So you support both sides then?
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Seem to recall police serving as security for the KKK a number of times because it was part of their job and KKK has a freedom of speech.  Weird how they draw the line now and don't want to do their job 

But this is dumb.  Non-story and I'm already regretting opening and posting in this thread.

 
timschochet said:
I kind of disagree. 

Whats important about this story is that a lot of police are pissed off at the perception about them that they believe is being made by the media and by the black community. And this has already had repercussions for the coming election, with Hillary pointedly on the side of young blacks who have been shot and Republicans strongly supporting law and order. 
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Wake me up when Beyonce is without security and cancels all shows.  Til then....yawnnnnnnnn.

 
General Malaise said:
Seem to recall police serving as security for the KKK a number of times because it was part of their job and KKK has a freedom of speech.  Weird how they draw the line now and don't want to do their job 

But this is dumb.  Non-story and I'm already regretting opening and posting in this thread.
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The police will probably give her security as part of their job when she's giving a free concert  on public property.

 
timschochet said:
I kind of disagree. 

Whats important about this story is that a lot of police are pissed off at the perception about them that they believe is being made by the media and by the black community. And this has already had repercussions for the coming election, with Hillary Bernie pointedly on the side of young blacks who have been shot and Republicans strongly supporting law and order and Hillary on the side that wrote her the biggest check.
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General Malaise said:
Seem to recall police serving as security for the KKK a number of times because it was part of their job and KKK has a freedom of speech.  Weird how they draw the line now and don't want to do their job 

But this is dumb.  Non-story and I'm already regretting opening and posting in this thread.
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You're coming across as somewhat dense. The police will do their job. The boycott is to not volunteer for off-duty extra security hours. Beyoncé has freedom of speech but consequences are not prohibited. 

 
They've convinced me. I will not go see her in concert and I won't buy her CD (do people still do that?)

 
Beyonce is free to say what she wants about Black Lives Matter.

Police unions are free to encourage their members to boycott her.

Message board losers are free to argue about it.

 
14 US tour dates, including Baltimore, NO, Chicago.

NO happens to have (voluntarily) segregated police unions so I'm curious what happens here.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
That would leave only black folks shooting black folks, and the % reduction in deaths would be negligible. 
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36 unarmed blacks were killed by police in 2015.  Most of them were clearly justifiable or accidental (such as a person on the street being hit by an errant shot).  Only a handful of cases are even disputable as a potential overuse of force.  There is actually a higher percentage of whites killed by cops where it looks to be an unjustified shooting.  And this data supports the studies done recently suggesting that cops are more likely to exercise restraint with blacks for fear of the political repercussions.

Meanwhile the bigger problem, black on black violence, goes unaddressed.  6,400 blacks were killed overall in 2015, over 90% of them by other blacks.  10 children under the age of 10 were murdered in Baltimore alone last year.  Maybe Beyonce ought to to be using her influence to address that issue.

 
What a terrible look for the police.  You're civil servants.  Part of being a civil servant is dealing with people complaining about you.  Suck it up and deal with it.  You know, just like DMV employees and IRS employees and state utility regulators and pretty much everyone else on the public dime do every day even if people criticize them, often without a reasonable basis (and there's plenty of basis for criticism of the way police deal with black people). If it's too much for your fragile ego to handle, get another job.

 
Also find it odd that 19 year old college kids acting like whiny, oversensitive ninnies is treated as the potential downfall of our civilization, but fully grown adults who are armed and granted the authority to use force by the state acting like whiny, oversensitive ninnies is no big deal.

 
Higgs said:
36 unarmed blacks were killed by police in 2015.  Most of them were clearly justifiable or accidental (such as a person on the street being hit by an errant shot).  Only a handful of cases are even disputable as a potential overuse of force.  There is actually a higher percentage of whites killed by cops where it looks to be an unjustified shooting.  And this data supports the studies done recently suggesting that cops are more likely to exercise restraint with blacks for fear of the political repercussions.

Meanwhile the bigger problem, black on black violence, goes unaddressed.  6,400 blacks were killed overall in 2015, over 90% of them by other blacks.  10 children under the age of 10 were murdered in Baltimore alone last year.  Maybe Beyonce ought to to be using her influence to address that issue.
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This goes both ways.

Black on black violence attributes to the vast majority of deaths, yet black people focus on the police officers.

Likewise, white people kill cops FAR more often than black people, yet the police side focuses on black people.

 
T J said:
You're coming across as somewhat dense. The police will do their job. The boycott is to not volunteer for off-duty extra security hours. Beyoncé has freedom of speech but consequences are not prohibited. 
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Lol @"somewhat".

Like I said, this thread is garbage and this is not a story.  Wake me up when Beyonce can't perform because of lack of security.  Otherwise, leave this trash to TMZ.

 
General Malaise said:
Lol @"somewhat".

Like I said, this thread is garbage and this is not a story.  Wake me up when Beyonce can't perform because of lack of security.  Otherwise, leave this trash to TMZ.
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They can get back to me if and when she gets her boated thighs under control.  She is as appealing to me as week old tuna salad that has been left in the summer sun. 

 
FreeBaGeL said:
This goes both ways.

Black on black violence attributes to the vast majority of deaths, yet black people focus on the police officers.

Likewise, white people kill cops FAR more often than black people, yet the police side focuses on black people.
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In my admittedly limited experience black people don't talk that much about "black on black" violence any more than white people talk about white on white violence, nor should they IMO. But they talk all the time about violence in their communities.  They idea that they ignore it in favor of focusing on treatment by law enforcement is a lie.

The examples of black communities speaking up against violence in their communities are too numerous to count; people just don't hear about it because it's not controversial so it doesn't make it to the news. Here's Beyonce speaking out against gun violence, for the people asking why she's focused on police violence instead of whatever it is you think she should be focused on. And here's a ton of articles debunking the ridiculous "why don't black people care about black on black crime?" thing more generally.

 
I think trying to compare black on black crime and police conduct towards blacks is nonsense. I also disagree that the cops need to "suck it up" and do work for anyone they dont want to, outside of their civic duty. They arent obligated at all to do so. Beyonce (or anyone else that wants to openly criticize the cops) can easily hire their own, private security. 

 
Cjw_55106 said:
I think trying to compare black on black crime and police conduct towards blacks is nonsense. I also disagree that the cops need to "suck it up" and do work for anyone they dont want to, outside of their civic duty. They arent obligated at all to do so. Beyonce (or anyone else that wants to openly criticize the cops) can easily hire their own, private security. 
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I never said they were obligated to do it.  I said they should suck it up and stop acting like crybabies because it's a bad look and fielding criticism is part of the job of any civil servant. 

Imagine if DMV employees kept a list of anyone who made a joke about them in entertainment or on social media and refused to do anything for them or with them in any capacity outside the office.  Surely they have a "right" to do that, but it's incredibly oversensitive and whiny, wouldn't you agree?  Those DMV employees get paid to work at the DMV. Certainly they had to expect negative portrayals and complaints when they took the job.  Some of those complaints even make their jobs harder, since people generally respect them less and arrive in a bad mood due to that negativity, but that's part of the deal and they know it. When you make a decision to serve the public you make a decision to accept criticism, whether justified or not. If they can handle it without throwing hissy fits, shouldn't our police officers be able to do the same?

 
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If your neighbor talks #### about you and then asks you to shovel their driveway, are you being whiny and over-sensitive when you tell them to GTFO? 

 
Focusing on police violence against black kids is the issue du jour. It's good for business. SJW effect is an economic reality. 

 
I'm no lover of overly the authoritarian police state but lololololol at comparing this to a ####### DMV worker. Cops are doing just a weeeeeeeeeeeeee bit more for the public than a DMV worker. When's the last time violent protests were aimed at the DMV?  Have they been threatened, attacked, politicized?

This whole ####### mess is a combination of the 'good ol boy thin blue line' bull#### mentality of the cops combined with a false narrative that there is an 'epidemic' of cops killing black teens. 

Our 24 hours news cycle knows that 'cop shoots black person' will get huge ratings. So stories that would have primarily been regionally interesting at best are turning into OMGZ BREAKING NEWZZZZZ!!!!!!!!

 
mr roboto said:
I'm no lover of overly the authoritarian police state but lololololol at comparing this to a ####### DMV worker. Cops are doing just a weeeeeeeeeeeeee bit more for the public than a DMV worker. When's the last time violent protests were aimed at the DMV?  Have they been threatened, attacked, politicized?

This whole ####### mess is a combination of the 'good ol boy thin blue line' bull#### mentality of the cops combined with a false narrative that there is an 'epidemic' of cops killing black teens. 

Our 24 hours news cycle knows that 'cop shoots black person' will get huge ratings. So stories that would have primarily been regionally interesting at best are turning into OMGZ BREAKING NEWZZZZZ!!!!!!!!
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I think maybe you missed the point of the comparison. 

If it helps would you prefer I use IRS employees? 

 
No, I understand the comparison just fine. It's an apt one of you are comfortable equating two scenarios that are separated by multiple degrees of intensity. (Cops throwing hissy fits over cultural accusations that they like to murder kids = DMVs keeping track of who makes fun of them).

of course cops need to overlook a lot of public negativity. But a coordinated political, social and media campaign disparaging them, falsely accusing 'cops' as a whole of being murderers, no, that's not something they should have forseen and just get over because 'it's part of the job you signed up for.'

 
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