PONDER vs SUH AND FAIRLEY (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.Pleasant RidgeRoyal OakHuntington WoodsHere are websites for the cities-http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/about/inde…http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.Pleasant RidgeRoyal OakHuntington WoodsHere are websites for the cities-http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/about/inde…http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

No NFl player is going to live in Royal Oak. I grew up there.

 

[meatwad1]

Detroit is definitely one of the more dilapidated cities, undoubtedly there are nice places to live, but they need to compete with all of the other teams for free agents, so I would not bank on them getting too many good ones...once the flood gates open this year, it will be a frenzy.

 

[Ilov80s]

Detroit is definitely one of the more dilapidated cities, undoubtedly there are nice places to live, but they need to compete with all of the other teams for free agents, so I would not bank on them getting too many good ones...once the flood gates open this year, it will be a frenzy.

I don't think the players care too much about where they live. They care about 1. money, 2. playing time and 3. winning. Most players don't live full time in the city they play. Most of the Detroit players live in Oakland County which is in the top 10 in the nation for per capita income.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.

Pleasant Ridge

Royal Oak

Huntington Woods

Here are websites for the cities-

http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/

http://www.ci.royal-...i.us/about/inde…

http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/

I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

do a google maps search for Wabeek some garish abodes out there ( blomfield Hills area near where I grew up)ETA here is wabeek CC stellite satelite google, just look about anywhere near there

 

[hutchins929]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.

Pleasant Ridge

Royal Oak

Huntington Woods

Here are websites for the cities-

http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/

http://www.ci.royal-...i.us/about/inde…

http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/

I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

do a google maps search for Wabeek some garish abodes out there ( blomfield Hills area near where I grew up)ETA here is wabeek CC stellite satelite google, just look about anywhere near there

Personally I don't know those areas. I just googled nice places around Detroit. I have however stayed in Rochester Hills and I loved that area but it is more like a 40 - 50 min commute from Detroit. Not to far though.

 

[drater]

You Lions lovers are cracked!!! The Vikings and Bears are both teams that are filled with probowlers...the Lions? Not so many probowlers on that team.Unless of course, you are talking about imaginary/bizarro world pro bowl players!!! In that case, the Lions are brimming with incredible talent and will be knocking on the NFC championship door!!!Lets get something straight. Do not look at a teams schedule and assume that a close game means you could have or should have won. You can look at every team in the league and point out a few games where they might have won had they played just a wee bit better. The Lions do not belong in some special category that extrapolates them out to 10 wins if Stafford would have played....the fact is that he didn't, he was injured because his shoulder is made of glass. Guess what? There will be injuries next year too. Every team has them. Have fun with your five draft picks next year!!! That is how a real championship team does itYou are going to havwe amazing depth. Five picks! LOL.Seriously. Good luck to you. I am sure it must have been exhilerating to get those 6 wins last year after losing 20 something in a row, but lets be serious. I am a Packers fan, and that is a team with superlative depth. You are nowhere close. Nowhere. As far as the Vikings and Bears go, I am way more fearful to play either of those teams than I am to play your team, the Bears have tough players in all three facets of the game, the Vikings are similar. Is Ponder going to bust? Who knows? Just like we should not assume that Fairley is going to be anything special. If I were a betting man, I would say he is going to stink seeing that he was a one year wonder. Just to let you know, there are not many one year college wonders that amount to much in the NFL. Just telling you like it is. Sorry.

They beat your Super Bowl Packers with a Back up QB, a banged up running back and a below average secondary. Even with all of that they Beat the Packers, Vikings, Bears* and finished ahead of the Vikes in the division. The Lions aren't gonna win the Super Bowl or anything this year, but they are definitely on the rise. If I had the choice, I'd rather have the Lions roster right now over the Vikings or the Bears. They still have time to make some key additions in FA also. I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha. *they didn't technically beat the Bears but we all know they really did.

Plus second longest active winning streak in the NFL, behind the champs. Including 2 on the road that broke a long ### streak and got a huge monkey off their backs, mentally. Anybody that doesn't see the Lions as an up and comer didn't watch very many of their games last year. Sure, they still have holes. No, they may not make the playoffs this year. Yes, it's still easy to look down on them if you're a Packers fan, even though they split and almost swept last seasons matchups. But they've come a long way from 0-16 in just 3 years. And that 0-16 was the reverse apex of many years of utter ineptitude. Schwartz and Mayhew should be commended.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Cliff Avril is the best LE in the division and Vanden Bosch and Williams fill out a very good line in addition to Suh. Just based on the few times I saw the Lions play, I thought Williams looked better than he ever did with the Packers. I also think Sammie Hill could be a very good DT this season. As a Packer fan I'm afraid of Fairley / Suh for sure, but am still happy the Lions didn't take Amukamara or Jimmy Smith with that pick. They already had the best DL in the NFC North, but still don't have a corner who can cover worth a damn.

 

[Pauli Walnuts]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.Pleasant RidgeRoyal OakHuntington WoodsHere are websites for the cities-http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/about/inde…http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

No NFl player is going to live in Royal Oak. I grew up there.

:MatthewStafford:

 

[Sinrman]

Maybe I'm just a shell-shocked, poor, pathetic Lions fan, but let's not go anointing the Lions as playoff contenders just yet. I'm warming up to the Fairley pick. It

does indeed give us a potentially devastating D-line for years to come. But he's young, raw, and is known to take some plays off. He needs time to develop. I think it

will really help having Suh next to him though pushing to better himself, as well as veterans like VandenBosch.

Personally, I was hoping for Prince or a top O-lineman to try and keep Stafford upright. It seems the past few years, the Fords and the Lion staff are serious about

finally putting a quality product on the field. I really hope we make a run as Nnamdi.

 

[meatwad1]

You Lions lovers are cracked!!! The Vikings and Bears are both teams that are filled with probowlers...the Lions? Not so many probowlers on that team.Unless of course, you are talking about imaginary/bizarro world pro bowl players!!! In that case, the Lions are brimming with incredible talent and will be knocking on the NFC championship door!!!Lets get something straight. Do not look at a teams schedule and assume that a close game means you could have or should have won. You can look at every team in the league and point out a few games where they might have won had they played just a wee bit better. The Lions do not belong in some special category that extrapolates them out to 10 wins if Stafford would have played....the fact is that he didn't, he was injured because his shoulder is made of glass. Guess what? There will be injuries next year too. Every team has them. Have fun with your five draft picks next year!!! That is how a real championship team does itYou are going to havwe amazing depth. Five picks! LOL.Seriously. Good luck to you. I am sure it must have been exhilerating to get those 6 wins last year after losing 20 something in a row, but lets be serious. I am a Packers fan, and that is a team with superlative depth. You are nowhere close. Nowhere. As far as the Vikings and Bears go, I am way more fearful to play either of those teams than I am to play your team, the Bears have tough players in all three facets of the game, the Vikings are similar. Is Ponder going to bust? Who knows? Just like we should not assume that Fairley is going to be anything special. If I were a betting man, I would say he is going to stink seeing that he was a one year wonder. Just to let you know, there are not many one year college wonders that amount to much in the NFL. Just telling you like it is. Sorry.

They beat your Super Bowl Packers with a Back up QB, a banged up running back and a below average secondary. Even with all of that they Beat the Packers, Vikings, Bears* and finished ahead of the Vikes in the division. The Lions aren't gonna win the Super Bowl or anything this year, but they are definitely on the rise. If I had the choice, I'd rather have the Lions roster right now over the Vikings or the Bears. They still have time to make some key additions in FA also. I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha. *they didn't technically beat the Bears but we all know they really did.

Plus second longest active winning streak in the NFL, behind the champs. Including 2 on the road that broke a long ### streak and got a huge monkey off their backs, mentally. Anybody that doesn't see the Lions as an up and comer didn't watch very many of their games last year. Sure, they still have holes. No, they may not make the playoffs this year. Yes, it's still easy to look down on them if you're a Packers fan, even though they split and almost swept last seasons matchups. But they've come a long way from 0-16 in just 3 years. And that 0-16 was the reverse apex of many years of utter ineptitude. Schwartz and Mayhew should be commended.

Sorry pal, when I look at Detroit I see the classic case of a team that has been bad for a long time finally see a glimmer of hope, only to be slammed back to Earth when they realize that in the real world 6 - 10 is 6 - 10, a horrible record, not a spring board to respectability. To me they look exactly like the 2009 49ers, another team that was a 'good' 6 - 10. A team that had been so bad for so long that fans would grasp at straws to believe anything. A team that was led by an awesome coach, had a great draft with not one but two first round picks, and were destined to take the world by storm next year.I know the Lions played a lot of close games and were really close to being a winning team, but you could say that about all the losing teams this year, except for the Panthers, who truly were putrid. The Lions are not on that level, but in looking at their schedule with 5 tough games and 3 of them on the road, I could easily see a 1 - 4 start. If that happens the wheels will come off. Luckily for you, I am not always right, but that is what I expect to happen with this group.

 

[CharrdWood]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

You're all forgetting Grosse Point, which is REALLY nice and *right* outside Detroit proper. Having spent considerable time in both places, I actually prefer Detroit to Chicago, and that's coming from someone who lives in NYC. If it didn't hurt the Pistons it won't affect the Lions. You're giving these guys much too much credit for being cultured and seeking the finer things in life if you're knocking Detroit based on what it has to offer in terms of entertainment. They go to places like Dave & Buster's and The Cheesecake Factory and Applebees (confession: I'm a regular at my local Applefreaks!).

 

[freshly_shorn]

It *is* nice to have a pro football franchise back in the D!

 

[freshly_shorn]

I think the Lions will be a place that players will be attracted to playing, unlike in years past. They can see as well as a lot of other people that they (DET) are getting close and are on the right track. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they landed Nnamdi Asomugha.

Yeah. But those free agents would also realize they have to live in Detroit in order to play there.

This is true but does that stop people from playing in NE, NY, PIT, GB, MIN All of those places get cold. Ford Field might be in DET... But it's Ford Field, newer stadium with amazing facilities and it's a dome. So they wouldn't be playing in it.

It's not the cold that's the problem. And Ford Field is like lipstick on a pig.

Regardless of all of that. Just because you play in detroit doesn't mean you have to live in the slums. There are very nice places to live near Detroit. These places are anywhere from a 15 to 30 minute.Pleasant RidgeRoyal OakHuntington WoodsHere are websites for the cities-http://www.cityofpleasantridge.org/http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/about/inde…http://www.ci.huntington-woods.mi.us/I like Rochester Hills. That's a little farther away though.

No NFl player is going to live in Royal Oak. I grew up there.

WR Roy Williams built a huge mansion in a rather surprising area in Dearborn Heights, right on the border of Inkster (a very depressed burb of Detroit). I think it's sitting there vacant now.

 

[Donnybrook]

Fairley should wear corrective glasses/goggles during the game. Apparently, he is unable to see the ball after it leaves the QB's hand. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6xljcMJxJZg

 

[captbly]

I am actually grinning from ear to ear as a Lions fan right now!

Has that sentence been typed in the past 50 years?

Actually, it is typed almost every year. And almost every year it is disappointed. As a Viking's fan, let's just say that I can count on one hand how many times I remember the Lions beating us. And every year people project them to "break out" because there has to be a bad team break out and people always want it to be the Lions. Maybe this year they finally get lucky, but I wouldn't count on it.

The breaking you talk about will be that of ponders legs!!

 

[captbly]

They beat your Super Bowl Packers with a Back up QB, a banged up running back and a below average secondary.

And who was Green Bay's QB for most of that game?

Aaron Rodgers was knocked out of the game yes... That is part of my point though. The Lions defense put his ### on the bench!

Let's not get so dramatic. It was a routine tackle and Rodgers' own momentum caused him to bang his head on the turf.

Isnt that the point!

 

[Biabreakable]

I find your lack of faith disturbing Red.

As far as the Lions getting Fairley, good for them. It couldn't hurt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdPOMf4eu-Q

 

[hutchins929]

I am actually grinning from ear to ear as a Lions fan right now!

Has that sentence been typed in the past 50 years?

Actually, it is typed almost every year. And almost every year it is disappointed. As a Viking's fan, let's just say that I can count on one hand how many times I remember the Lions beating us. And every year people project them to "break out" because there has to be a bad team break out and people always want it to be the Lions. Maybe this year they finally get lucky, but I wouldn't count on it.

Last year1. Chicago

2. Green Bay

3. Detroit

4. Minnesota

 

[Biabreakable]

I am actually grinning from ear to ear as a Lions fan right now!

Has that sentence been typed in the past 50 years?

Actually, it is typed almost every year. And almost every year it is disappointed. As a Viking's fan, let's just say that I can count on one hand how many times I remember the Lions beating us. And every year people project them to "break out" because there has to be a bad team break out and people always want it to be the Lions. Maybe this year they finally get lucky, but I wouldn't count on it.

Last year1. Chicago

2. Green Bay

3. Detroit

4. Minnesota

I am not sure if anyone noticed but the Vikings had a disastrous season last year. If something could go wrong it did. Favre imploded and the team followed him. Worst performance from the Vikings I may have ever seen (I missed 1982). I wouldn't expect the Vikings to be as bad this year by any stretch of the imagination.However this is not the same Lions team as in the past either. It is true that people have been hoping the Lions would turn the corner for many years now but they would continue to suck anyways. I recall arguing with Anarchy and others about the Lions passing game and some lofty expectations that were never reached. That is not how I see the Lions today. I think they turned the corner last season and I expect them to do very well moving forward. If someone would have said that about the Lions 2 years ago I would have laughed. I am not laughing now. They are a much better team on defense now than they have been since the early 90's. They still have a long ways to go but I could see the Lions winning 9 games this season.

The division will be really tough. I see Chicago falling back in the standings with either the Lions or Vikings overtaking them. Green Bush obviously the favorite here.

 

[cvnpoka]

I am not sure if anyone noticed but the Vikings had a disastrous season last year. If something could go wrong it did.

well the lions had some pretty bad luck too. stafford played 2.5 games. 3rd stringer drew stanton played 4. calvin robbed on a game winner and suh missing an xp.