possible lengthy food, supply shortages coming to the US? Latest: start hiding Sriracha (1 Viewer)

[Zeppelin]

I'm near Detroit and things are pretty normal here. The only thing I have noticed here is a shortage of crackers. 

 

[Binky The Doormat]

I'm near Detroit and things are pretty normal here. The only thing I have noticed here is a shortage of crackers. 

well - you are in Detroit.

 

[stbugs]

Heading to Costco after work.  They haven't had Kirkland toilet paper the last 4 times I've been.  Time to panic?

Weird, they’ve had tons of toilet paper at ours. I did buy an pack of extra paper towels last time. Didn’t look at the chicken thighs as I accidentally bought a pack when I already had some in the freezer. I definitely am buying a bit extra especially if I see something that’s looking low. I bought two packs of the waffle/pancake mix when it was there because it wasn’t there two times and it wasn’t there last time either.

 

[rockaction]

well - you are in Detroit.

OMFUG LOL

 

[dino259]

I'm near Detroit and things are pretty normal here. The only thing I have noticed here is a shortage of crackers. 

I bet some footballguys could throw you some. 

 

[AAABatteries]

I deal in snacks and I bartend on the side.  I do know some about the liquor shortages - mostly from a shortage of glass bottles.  We couldn’t get Jack Daniels or Seagram’s 7 for a while.  The beer companies have had a lot of problems with glass also.  Champaign will be a big problem this holiday season.  

As kind of a whiskey snob I’d say that’s a good thing.   

 

[Mister CIA]

My local Sam's Club was nearly out of TP around noon today, and completely out of paper towels.  Wrapped up my shopping quickly and made my way five miles down the road to Costco.  TP and PT situation was better, but the lack was still noticable.  I think were in for a bumpy winter.

Luckily I'm a master of beans and rice and vegetables, and I'm overstocked on all sorts of chicken sausage.

 

[Terminalxylem]

With the looming paper product shortage and reliance on beans for survival, I'm investing in bidets.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

Crazy thing is based on the way they calculated inflation back in the 1980s, it’s currently running at 13%. The formula has been modified several times since then to make it appear less than it is. 

Wow, it's even worse than they say 

 

[DallasDMac]

Was at the grocery store yesterday. Tons of paper towels. The "shortages" seem odd. Like one pace has none of something where another has plenty of it. Almost makes me wonder if it is just a matter of the stores getting the shelves stocked more than anything?

 

[culdeus]

Was at the grocery store yesterday. Tons of paper towels. The "shortages" seem odd. Like one pace has none of something where another has plenty of it. Almost makes me wonder if it is just a matter of the stores getting the shelves stocked more than anything?

The truck driver situation may...drive this effect.

 

[FairWarning]

As kind of a whiskey snob I’d say that’s a good thing.   

Until the smaller distilleries can’t get them.  Let’s hope it doesn’t get to that.

 

[FairWarning]

Was at the grocery store yesterday. Tons of paper towels. The "shortages" seem odd. Like one pace has none of something where another has plenty of it. Almost makes me wonder if it is just a matter of the stores getting the shelves stocked more than anything?

It depends on the wholesalers.  Walmart and Meijer have their own, Kroger may have their own also.  If you are in a are where there are 3-4 different wholesalers, you should be ok.  

 

[rockaction]

Wing Stop is now centering an ad campaign around the wing shortage and offering up chicken thighs on their menu.

That's bad.

I don't think that ad campaign is going to work, frankly.

 

[FairWarning]

Wing Stop is now centering an ad campaign around the wing shortage and offering up chicken thighs on their menu.

That's bad.

I don't think that ad campaign is going to work, frankly.

Another restaurant food that has been in very short supply is calamari.

 

[AAABatteries]

Wing Stop is now centering an ad campaign around the wing shortage and offering up chicken thighs on their menu.

That's bad.

I don't think that ad campaign is going to work, frankly.

Thigh Stop is a place I would try at least once.

 

[rockaction]

Thigh Stop is a place I would try at least once.

I'll have the extra loamy, please.

 

[Dezbelief]

Thigh Gap is a place I would try at least once.

 

[Desert_Power]

Crazy thing is based on the way they calculated inflation back in the 1980s, it’s currently running at 13%. The formula has been modified several times since then to make it appear less than it is. 

Wow, it's even worse than they say 

Not really. Unless you buy the same basket of goods that someone in 1980 did. Just more misleading info from ShadowStats.

 

[fatness]

Another restaurant food that has been in very short supply is calamari.

Squid are notoriuosly insistent on vaccination proof before agreeing to be killed and eaten. They're finicky like that. There's no reasoning with a squid.

 

[stbugs]

Wing Stop is now centering an ad campaign around the wing shortage and offering up chicken thighs on their menu.

That's bad.

I don't think that ad campaign is going to work, frankly.

They did that months ago (maybe last year) when there was a wing shortage. I just got my son traditional wings at Zaxby’s on the way home from a trip yesterday. Zaxby’s didn’t have traditional wings for a while when Wing Stop had the ads many months ago.

 

[rockaction]

They did that months ago (maybe last year) when there was a wing shortage. I just got my son traditional wings at Zaxby’s on the way home from a trip yesterday. Zaxby’s didn’t have traditional wings for a while when Wing Stop had the ads many months ago.

Ah, okay. Thanks for the information. I just noticed it during football yesterday and was sort of blown away by it. Not that there's a shortage, just that they'd try and sell chicken thighs as a wing-related product. "Gross," I thought. They're such different cuts of meat with different textures and different reasons for being food products.

 

[massraider]

Was at the grocery store yesterday. Tons of paper towels. The "shortages" seem odd. Like one pace has none of something where another has plenty of it. Almost makes me wonder if it is just a matter of the stores getting the shelves stocked more than anything?

It's really not odd, because the items that are on shelves in any store, there are several steps for them to get there. And the steps for any item on any shelf is not the same for the same item on a shelf in a different location of the same store. 

There are so many different combinations of possible breakdowns that from week to week, a big box store might be like, 'no TP and popcorn this week', and next week it's 'no batteries and mayonnaise'. 

I wouldn't even bothering asking when something will be in. The chances that any manager would have accurate information about where the supplier breakdown occurred and when it will be fixed is laughable.

 

[massraider]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supply-chain-crisis-60-minutes-2021-11-14/#app

Interesting read, and you can see how there is really no sense to where and when things are out of stock 

 

[SFBayDuck]

For me, I paid sticker on mine - Ford F150. 

My friend at the dealership basically said the sticker was about 5K over what it would be in normal supply times. Considering a used one was only 5K less but had 45,000 miles made the decision easy.

And mine came with the really nice Ford fitted rubber floormats that cover all the inside carpet areas. Those alone gave me a boner.

But what are shovel prices doing now?  I know you've already stockpiled and all, but I'm sure you're still up on the market.

 

[ChiefD]

But what are shovel prices doing now?  I know you've already stockpiled and all, but I'm sure you're still up on the market.

They seem to be steady. But I'll pay whatever price is necessary when the time comes. Been on the lookout for a nice spade. 

 

[JaxBill]

just got back from Publix and picked up my turkey for Saturday. (My son the sportswriter is in town from Park City, so we're celebrating esrly)

Plenty available. Now if you go Saturday afternoon,  not sure what you'll get.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Long-Awaited Words on Supply Chain: 'Worst Is Behind Us'

Globally, at least 

Does that mean I have to eat all these cans of beans and Spam now?  

 

[BeTheMatch]

Long-Awaited Words on Supply Chain: 'Worst Is Behind Us'

Globally, at least 

Does that mean I have to eat all these cans of beans and Spam now?  

Bring on the Jimmy Dean!!!!!!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Long-Awaited Words on Supply Chain: 'Worst Is Behind Us'

Globally, at least 

Does that mean I have to eat all these cans of beans and Spam now?  

If there is one thing I have learned as a long time consumer, it's that Corporate America will eventually find a way to take my money for their overpriced goods.

 

[belljr]

just got back from Publix and picked up my turkey for Saturday. (My son the sportswriter is in town from Park City, so we're celebrating esrly)

Plenty available. Now if you go Saturday afternoon,  not sure what you'll get.

We got our free turkey breast from ShopRite yesterday. Don't seem to be hurting

 

[fatness]

How hoarding saved Black Friday

Retailers have been over-ordering for awhile now.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

not food or supply, per se, but affects mostly everything else at this point:

Why the (computer) chip shortage drags on and on… and on

 

[massraider]

not food or supply, per se, but affects mostly everything else at this point:

Why the (computer) chip shortage drags on and on… and on

Man, after something like this you might think the US might subsidize some American made chip factories. 

 

[fatness]

Interesting article on supply chain issues that (according to the author) are not going away because it's not profitable for the shippers and carriers to do anything about it.

It's a long read.

Apparently that author was not too far off.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/a-broken-supply-chain-isn-t-a-problem-for-the-logistics-industry-it-s-a-moneymaking-opportunity/ar-AARaoPb

Most imports come to the U.S. in shipping containers, and just nine shipping companies control 80% of all global container shipping. Those companies have further consolidated into three major alliances — 2M, Transport High Efficiency Alliance and the Ocean Alliance — in the last decade, giving them unprecedented power in the market.

"To a certain extent they've become a cartel," Tang said. "There's not that much competition, so they can jack up the price more."

How can having $100-million ships tied up at anchor be good for the bottom line? The shipping companies' financial reports show that they're finding a way.

The main source of this skyrocketing revenue is freight fees. In 2019, shipping a container from China to the West Coast cost less than $2,000, on average. At the height of the logistics crunch this summer, rates soared above $20,000 for that same container, before falling below $15,000 in the latter half of November. Demand went up, supply went down as backlogs grew, and prices surged.

Customers such as Liz Ross pay the shipping companies upfront. In previous years, those companies had a financial incentive to unload their ships as quickly as possible to free up capacity for more voyages. But the eight- to tenfold increase in prices means that a carrier can double its revenue even at 20% capacity. With that amount of money coming in, idle ships at ports such as those in Los Angeles and Long Beach barely scratch the bottom line — and in fact might prove good for business, if they mean that the companies can keep prices high, Tang said.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Kirkland toilet paper AND paper towels were there.  Jackpot!

No Kirkland but paid the extra 2 bucks for the shiney hiney brand.

 

[massraider]

Apparently that author was not too far off.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/a-broken-supply-chain-isn-t-a-problem-for-the-logistics-industry-it-s-a-moneymaking-opportunity/ar-AARaoPb

That first article is a must-read. 

 

[Gopher State]

Still looking for a thanksgiving turkey.  Local stores have been sold out for weeks.  Thinking ahead for next year!

 

[DallasDMac]

Bounce dryer sheets, the scentless ones in the white box. Unavailable at least the past two months in my local grocers. Along with frozen Chicken Fried Steaks (local or Tyson brand). WTH?

Turkeys on the other hand are spilling out of the freezer section.

 

[Zeppelin]

Still looking for a thanksgiving turkey.  Local stores have been sold out for weeks.  Thinking ahead for next year!

There were plenty here in southeast Michigan. 

You need to move. 

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

North American fertilizer shortage sparks fears of higher food prices

Higher food prices! Awesome!   <_<  

 

[Dr. No]

You don’t happen to run with the @Dentist by any chance?

Nothing like a steaming dump to warm your bum.

 

[shuke]

I'm sensing a pretzel shortage coming.  Already signs at my local Kroger.

 

[fatness]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/a-broken-supply-chain-isn-t-a-problem-for-the-logistics-industry-it-s-a-moneymaking-opportunity/ar-AARaoPb

"To a certain extent they've become a cartel," Tang said. "There's not that much competition, so they can jack up the price more."

Apparently they are a cartel. https://www.businessinsider.com/supply-chain-cartel-shipping-companies-white-house-inflation-price-growth-2021-11

"Price-gouging by the ocean shipping cartel" has fueled inconvenience and inflation for Americans, the Biden administration said in an email to reporters.

Some of the most prominent names in the industry include Maersk, COSCO, and Evergreen. Broadly, the shipping sector saw profits hit a record $48.1 billion in the third quarter of 2021. "The cartel of shipping companies that control the terms of global trade have never been more profitable," the White House said. "In the third quarter alone, they made $48 billion, which is nine times more than they made the year before."

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

FTC Launches Inquiry into Supply Chain Disruptions: Orders Walmart, Amazon, Kroger and other large wholesalers and suppliers to turn over information to help study causes of empty shelves and sky-high prices

https://www.newser.com/story/313930/ftc-orders-walmart-amazon-to-explain-sky-high-prices.html

The FTC's study will examine "whether supply chain disruptions are leading to specific bottlenecks, shortages, anticompetitive practices, or contributing to rising consumer prices." Companies, which have 45 days to respond to the order once received, must "detail the primary factors disrupting their ability to obtain, transport and distribute their products;" the impact on costs and prices; "the steps the companies are taking to alleviate disruptions; and how they allocate products among their stores when they are in short supply." The commission is also looking for internal documents related to pricing, marketing, profit margins, and market shares.

 

 

[urbanhack]

The free range chicken thighs I normally buy were $5.99 a pound. They are now $7.99/lb.  

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

The free range chicken thighs I normally buy were $5.99 a pound. They are now $7.99/lb.  

meat prices way up across the board here too

start hiding animals?

 

[beer 30]

meat prices way up across the board here too

start hiding animals?

Richard Gere would like a word with you

 

[GordonGekko]

meat prices way up across the board here too

start hiding animals?

Focus on long term storage and calorie density.

Societies that transition to the constant reality of scarcity usually has an exponential spike in work output.

If you work at home and telecommute as an accountant, what is your practical energy expenditure during your day to day life? Now imagine if you have to process all your own water. That means finding it, carrying it, filtering it, boiling it (including all that comes with finding fuel for that) and storing/maintaining it. And then having to rely on a "Victory Garden" for some of your food.

It's a math game. Are you burning more calories to source something than what those items will give you back? A constant deficit in a new world order of scarcity means death.

Algae grows fast. You don't need to do a lot of complex "farming" to make algae grow. It has a high amount of protein and minerals. It does have some limitations and drawbacks. The math for algae is exponential return. But is it palatable?

A practical food reserve is not a replacement system because it won't last forever. It's a supplement system for your own methodology for renewables.

For most people, a good start is microgreens.

Modern humans have a massive advantage in vitamin supplementation. A multi-vitamin just looks like future expensive urine. However if you are stuck living off of growing your own potatoes and that's 75 percent of your food base, those One A Days in a plastic bottle will save your life. Most people can make it day to day with deficiencies because they aren't pressed to have a heavy daily work output. As that labor intensity grows, so does your bodies ability to adapt and recover if you are massively short on something like magnesium or calcium.

Not starving long term for our ancestors was a giant math game. That's it. That was the deal. That's how it worked. That's how it always works.

A good beginner project is making a solar oven. You can do a rudimentary one with a cardboard box, foil and some plastic wrap. But the bigger key is it teaches the average person to maximize daylight hours in a practical manner. Nearly all of you take basic lighting in your homes for granted. Imagine if the power grid is gone.

Learn to be friends with your local library. Without a power grid, your local library is the new resource in town for everyone.

 

[BeTheMatch]

WE'RE GONNA NEED A THREAD-TITLE CHANGE!!!!

Solar Oven directions now included!!!!!