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if we got to 16.... I still hope we consider a format that is not week to week to week elimination and is still over the course of 3-4 weeks for lowest 4 teams or whatever....and no immunity or whatever
 
Heads up again. Draft beginning coming soon. So thankful for all the participation and interest, especially for all the good suggestions. Please look back at this thread later this morning for a summary of some of the changes made in this league.

I feel kind of like old Roger as I say "Welcome to the Kickoff the FootballGuy's Survivor Season". Please do not boo me, I am more sensitive than Old Roger, who like my wife, is actually several years younger than me.
 
League setup and invites sent. Elimination will be as follows:

1-3: 16
4-6: 13
7-9: 10
10-12: 8
13-14: 6
15-17: The final four teams play for the championship

No immunity
 
BassNBrew said:
League setup and invites sent. Elimination will be as follows:

1-3: 16
4-6: 13
7-9: 10
10-12: 8
13-14: 6
15-17: The final four teams play for the championship

No immunity
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👍 I think this is a good change. Every 3 weeks we’ll be watching closely.
 
Full MBSL1 draft order:

1.01 1 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Waiting For The Next Pick
1.02 2 rzrback77
1.03 3 Crippler
1.04 4 BassNBrew
1.05 5 Duckboy
1.06 6 Stinkin Ref
1.07 7 ryheaps2
1.08 8 Renesauz
1.09 9 Biabreakable
1.10 10 Bob Harris
1.11 11 nittanylion
1.12 12 Mr. Irrelevant
1.13 13 Minister of Pain
1.14 14 Old Milwaukee
1.15 15 -OZ-
1.16 16 Bro1ncos
 
rzrback77 said:

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@Biabreakable and @Ministry of Pain

Most of the scoring rules are provided at the MFL link above. However, we are reducing the TE to 1.5 ppr, adding an additional flex scorer (RB/WR/TE), and removing the PK position,

Everyone who joins will be linked to the new website shortly and have time to review scoring better
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@BassNBrew - just a heads-up that you've got the league set up to use 3 flex spots instead of 2 and DSTs included as a flex position.

I don't really care whether we roll with 2 flexes or 3, but DSTs as a flex looks like it's definitely, probably, maybe there in error.
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Code: 
Starting Lineup Setup
Total Starters:    11
Number of Starting QBs:    1
Number of Starting RBs:    2-5
Number of Starting WRs:    3-6
Number of Starting TEs:    1-4
Number of Starting Defs:   1-4
Use "Best Ball" Lineup:    Yes
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Bass and I discussed this and with the additional rounds, we agreed that the flex DST would increase their value and make drafting some more equivalent with the other positions.

And yes, we will have three flexes in this league.

The elimination schedule will also be posted on the MFL league site message board
 
Mr. Irrelevant said:
rzrback77 said:

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@Biabreakable and @Ministry of Pain

Most of the scoring rules are provided at the MFL link above. However, we are reducing the TE to 1.5 ppr, adding an additional flex scorer (RB/WR/TE), and removing the PK position,

Everyone who joins will be linked to the new website shortly and have time to review scoring better
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@BassNBrew - just a heads-up that you've got the league set up to use 3 flex spots instead of 2 and DSTs included as a flex position.

I don't really care whether we roll with 2 flexes or 3, but DSTs as a flex looks like it's definitely, probably, maybe there in error.
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Code: 
Starting Lineup Setup
Total Starters:    11
Number of Starting QBs:    1
Number of Starting RBs:    2-5
Number of Starting WRs:    3-6
Number of Starting TEs:    1-4
Number of Starting Defs:   1-4
Use "Best Ball" Lineup:    Yes
​
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I read three flex somewhere in this thread, but can change that if needed also was asked to include defenses of Plex. Will let you guys discuss and have Holloway make a final decision
 
@rzrback77 , assuming you are our connection to Bob Harris, who I'm a HUGE fan of, could you please encourage him to interact with us here in the Thread? I was so stoked to see him participating in last years' League, and was looking forward to his contributions through the draft, discussing picks, draft strategy, rosters, etc...I think I speak for everyone when I say that it would be super cool to have an respected analyst such as him be inolved with contributing to the discussion, which, I think, is the major benefit of all these Message Board Leagues, as the group discussions are what help all of us flesh out our thoughts and feelings about Players, situations, etc., which we then apply to the many competitive Leagues we individually participate in.

Thanks!
 
nittanylion said:
@rzrback77 , assuming you are our connection to Bob Harris, who I'm a HUGE fan of, could you please encourage him to interact with us here in the Thread? I was so stoked to see him participating in last years' League, and was looking forward to his contributions through the draft, discussing picks, draft strategy, rosters, etc...I think I speak for everyone when I say that it would be super cool to have an respected analyst such as him be inolved with contributing to the discussion, which, I think, is the major benefit of all these Message Board Leagues, as the group discussions are what help all of us flesh out our thoughts and feelings about Players, situations, etc., which we then apply to the many competitive Leagues we individually participate in.

Thanks!
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Bob was hands down the best FBG projector last year.
 
Love 3 Flex, and D/ST included in Flex

Do *not* love that there is not position limit on D/ST.

I don't think, especially in a 16-Team League drafting this early in the year (prior to knowing byes), that it helps to have that element added to this League. It adds an element of 'cuteness' to Draft strategy that I don't care for. I know 'cute' is a somewhat ambiguous term, but I think it's falls into the category of 'you know it when you see it.'

I would suggest just giving everyone the choice of drafting 1 or 2, but no more than 2, and keep D/ST as part of the flex. This way, there are enough D/ST for everyone who chooses to have 2, to go around, without having to deal with someone drafting 3-4, and screwing anyone out of drafting up to 2 if they choose, to potentially cover byes (although we're gambling here).

It's potentially penalizing enough for people to risk only drafting 1, or waiting until the pickings are slim, without having to worry about 'cute and clever' Drafters, drafting 3 or more Defenses and stressing the Draft.

I don't mind layers of strategy, ever, but for a League this size, drafitng this early, I think how it's currently set up regarding D/ST is an unneccesary PITA.

Just my two cents.
 
nittanylion said:
Love 3 Flex, and D/ST included in Flex

Do *not* love that there is not position limit on D/ST.

I don't think, especially in a 16-Team League drafting this early in the year (prior to knowing byes), that it helps to have that element added to this League. It adds an element of 'cuteness' to Draft strategy that I don't care for. I know 'cute' is a somewhat ambiguous term, but I think it's falls into the category of 'you know it when you see it.'

I would suggest just giving everyone the choice of drafting 1 or 2, but no more than 2, and keep D/ST as part of the flex. This way, there are enough D/ST for everyone who chooses to have 2, to go around, without having to deal with someone drafting 3-4, and screwing anyone out of drafting up to 2 if they choose, to potentially cover byes (although we're gambling here).

It's potentially penalizing enough for people to risk only drafting 1, or waiting until the pickings are slim, without having to worry about 'cute and clever' Drafters, drafting 3 or more Defenses and stressing the Draft.

I don't mind layers of strategy, ever, but for a League this size, drafitng this early, I think how it's currently set up regarding D/ST is an unneccesary PITA.

Just my two cents.
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I like having the DST flex, but to decrease DST impact, what about allowing only one flex score from DST, so you could score with two DSTs and allowing a maximum of three DSTs per drafter, so that you can't completely punt or you miss out altogether.

I am going to sit on my pick for a bit to allow more commentary on the DST flex
 
Pick #2 - Saquon Barkley - returned to superstar status last year after leaving the NY Giants for Philly. Their line is very good and Saquon is very good, so he goes as RB1 and pick #2. Only considered Chase and had really not made up my mind, but @bicycle_seat_sniffer made my choice easy.

Robinson RB goes 3rd and now @BassNBrew is OTC at pick 5

Speak up now if you support @nittanylion with his suggestion to remove the DST from flex or to limit DST to a max of two scores and three rostered.
 
Just to clarify, I *don't* suggest removing D/ST from the flex - I like that part just fine.

I just didn't like the idea of people being able to draft more than 2, due to the size of the League, best ball format and lack of info about Bye Weeks at this moment in time.

While I think it's OK for people to choose to draft only 1, I don't think anyone should not be able to Draft 2, if they choose. Allowing people to draft 3 (or more), stresses the Draft, and compromises the fair play of this particular League (16-Team, BB, very early Draft), IMHO.

To make it clear:

Defense as part of flex: yes;

Every Team leaving the Draft with either 1 or 2, but no more: yes.
 
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nittanylion said:
Just to clarify, I *don't* suggest removing D/ST from the flex - I like that part just fine.

I just didn't like the idea of people being able to draft more than 2, due to the size of the League, best ball format and lack of info about Bye Weeks at this moment in time.

While I think it's OK for people to choose to draft only 1, I don't think anyone should not be able to Draft 2, if they choose. Allowing people to draft 3 (or more), stresses the Draft, and compromises the fair play of this particular League (16-Team, BB, very early Draft), IMHO.
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Let's just kill the flex for them then. They score so little they really don't matter.
 
rzrback77 said:
allowing only one flex score from DST, so you could score with two DSTs and allowing a maximum of three DSTs per drafter, so that you can't completely punt or you miss out altogether.
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Completely agree here. Limiting to 2 creates a situation where many will just wait until the last round like some do in the playoff league with QB, K and D.
But also agree that 3 is a fair limit.
 
BassNBrew said:
Let's just kill the flex for them then. They score so little they really don't matter.
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I like having one flex from the D, adds a little value and other than bye weeks sets a floor on a flex position.

Edit - actually not a real floor as defenses have scored zero points. But most of the time they’ll score something.
 
nittanylion said:
Just to clarify, I *don't* suggest removing D/ST from the flex - I like that part just fine.

I just didn't like the idea of people being able to draft more than 2, due to the size of the League, best ball format and lack of info about Bye Weeks at this moment in time.

While I think it's OK for people to choose to draft only 1, I don't think anyone should not be able to Draft 2, if they choose. Allowing people to draft 3 (or more), stresses the Draft, and compromises the fair play of this particular League (16-Team, BB, very early Draft), IMHO.

To make it clear:

Defense as part of flex: yes;

Every Team leaving the Draft with either 1 or 2, but no more: yes.
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this gets kind of tricky.....cause you are basically saying if a team has two dst already......they have to "leave" a dst in the last round for the guy that only has one....and then that guy may choose to not even take a second dst and you would have a dst or two go undrafted.....and maybe the guy who didn't take a third "would have" instead of a 5th RB or something....
 
I'm totally ok with some D/ST going undrafted.

Everybody has to draft 1, and everyone has the option to draft another, up to and including waiting until the last round of the draft to make that choice...or not.

Just don't like the option of anyone drafting more than 2, which, by math, takes away someone else's choice to draft a second, should they so choose, no matter what round they choose to draft it in, or not.
 
nittanylion said:
I'm totally ok with some D/ST going undrafted.

Everybody has to draft 1, and everyone has the option to draft another, up to and including waiting until the last round of the draft to make that choice...or not.

Just don't like the option of anyone drafting more than 2, which, by math, takes away someone else's choice to draft a second, should they so choose, no matter what round they choose to draft it in, or not.
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We ditched th flex so now someone can hoard either defenses or QBs. At least you have 32 defenses, right now there may only be 30 QBs at best.
 
nittanylion said:
I'm totally ok with some D/ST going undrafted.

Everybody has to draft 1, and everyone has the option to draft another, up to and including waiting until the last round of the draft to make that choice...or not.

Just don't like the option of anyone drafting more than 2, which, by math, takes away someone else's choice to draft a second, should they so choose, no matter what round they choose to draft it in, or not.
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so you are basically saying "cap" the DST position but none of the other positions.....

I'm not necessarily against that....but it does take away a strategic option for drafters....and I'm not sure how I feel about that since other positions aren't capped...
 
also part of the strategy in these "elimination" leagues (or many leagues for that matter) is playing "keep away" and affecting other owners rosters and making them weaker (auto donuts some weeks or whatever) ...so you may "advance" over them...
 
Stinkin Ref said:
nittanylion said:
I'm totally ok with some D/ST going undrafted.

Everybody has to draft 1, and everyone has the option to draft another, up to and including waiting until the last round of the draft to make that choice...or not.

Just don't like the option of anyone drafting more than 2, which, by math, takes away someone else's choice to draft a second, should they so choose, no matter what round they choose to draft it in, or not.
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so you are basically saying "cap" the DST position but none of the other positions.....

I'm not necessarily against that....but it does take away a strategic option for drafters....and I'm not sure how I feel about that since other positions aren't capped...
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I ditched the flex so there's no reason why anyone should be stuck with zero defenses unless you're punting to the Mr. Ir pick in the draft. I suspect the viable QBs will all be gone before the first defense.
 
bro1ncos said:
-OZ- said:
renesauz said:
Might be the first time I ever went rookie in round 1
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He was my target at 15 so he wasn’t getting back to you. Probably a good pick.
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I would have been quite disappointed to see him drop that far and to have him go right before my turn.
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I would've taken him at 12 so FWIW neither one of you had to worry about it. Thought there was a decent chance he'd make it to me but I'm not shocked he went where he did.
 
RB - D.Achance -Miami went 1.12 to @Mr. Irrelevant, it was after 11:00 here on the East Coast, I passed out after the FL-TB hockey game

MoP takes Puka Nacua - WR LA Rams with the 1.13
-Just basically went chalk here
Top 5 projected WR on a lot of early boards

@OldMilwaukee you are OTC
 
Chase WR
Barkley RB
Robinson RB
Gibbs RB
McCaffrey RB
Jefferson WR
Bowers TE
Jeanty RB
St Brown, WR
Lamb, WR
Jacobs, RB
Achane, RB
Nacua, WR
14 - Old Milwaukee
15 - @-OZ-
16 - @bro1ncos

And that's your up to the minute as I have it, just trying to help
 
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Ministry of Pain said:
MoP takes Puka Nacua - WR LA Rams with the 1.13
-Just basically went chalk here
Top 5 projected WR on a lot of early boards

@OldMilwaukee you are OTC
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Your pick didn’t take on the site.
 
-OZ- said:
Ministry of Pain said:
MoP takes Puka Nacua - WR LA Rams with the 1.13
-Just basically went chalk here
Top 5 projected WR on a lot of early boards

@OldMilwaukee you are OTC
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Your pick didn’t take on the site.
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I tried (failed)
Created an account and it won't link
Hoping the Commish can enter it for now

🤷‍♂️
We made our pick, moving on to Cincinnati :wink:
 
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