Press conference with Belichick (1 Viewer)

[brady2moss]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

 

[Bankerguy]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and the are focusing on the jets this week"

That sounds like Bill.

 

[tomarken]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and the are focusing on the jets this week"

Can't get to the press conference here, is it official?If so, is it safe to drop Brady in redraft?

 

[Bankerguy]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and the are focusing on the jets this week"

Can't get to the press conference here, is it official?If so, is it safe to drop Brady in redraft?

Confirmed...yes.

 

[JGalligan]

Damnit.. I just spent 1 of 14 yearly waiver wire moves on Chris Simms..

 

[David Yudkin]

Damnit.. I just spent 1 of 14 yearly waiver wire moves on Chris Simms..

Was Cassel available?

 

[Sam Quentin]

They don't even want to bring in another backup?

 

[switz]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

 

[David Yudkin]

They don't even want to bring in another backup?

People need to take what the Pats say at face value. They said they HADN'T brought anyone in. They didn't say they WOULDN'T bring anyone in. There is no way they go very long with Cassel and O'Connell as their QBs.The wheels are in motion behind the scenes on this one. They are having a war room session on what to do and who may or may not be available, what it would cost them, and if that fits their plan.For now, they are saying they are reasy to roll with Cassel. They will probably get someone else to be a veteran backup to learn the play book just in case something happens to Cassel.But if the Pats are 1-3 when they face SD, someone else will be the QB.

 

[David Yudkin]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

 

[switz]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

 

[Parmcat]

Aside from Simms, and possibly (not) Culpepper, who else is avialable and coul be a decent fit?

 

[Parmcat]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

Really?Rea Re......Really?

 

[David Yudkin]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon. That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

 

[switz]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon. That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

 

[Irish]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

IMHO the Cowboys offensive system actually held Aikman back.

 

[David Yudkin]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon. That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

Actually, I lied. Damien Woody was a Pro Bowl center one season.The fact remains, their players (IMO) on offense were not record breakers or put up anything but average numbers for years until last year when Brady had gotten upgrades at the OL and WR.

 

[Todem]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon.

That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.

Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.

Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.

Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.

How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.

The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.

Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

I am speechless at your posts here.....speechless.System QB's? Those are 2 HOF's your talking about. You need to be super accurate and smart to be a great QB...Brady and Aikman fit both those things. These system arguments are a joke.

Michael Irvin is one of the all time great physical WR's and guy's like Boldin, and T.O. can thank Irvin for giving them a blueprint of how to be physical, run great routes and be PLAYMAKERS.

Wow just speechless.

 

[Buckgooner]

Just think if Favre hadn't unretired....

You think the Pats would have made a call to Green Bay? That could have been REALLY interesting.

 

[Statcruncher]

I for one would like to start the "Grossman to New England" rumor.

 

[switz]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon.

That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.

Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.

Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.

Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.

How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.

The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.

Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

I am speechless at your posts here.....speechless.System QB's? Those are 2 HOF's your talking about. You need to be super accurate and smart to be a great QB...Brady and Aikman fit both those things. These system arguments are a joke.

Michael Irvin is one of the all time great physical WR's and guy's like Boldin, and T.O. can thank Irvin for giving them a blueprint of how to be physical, run great routes and be PLAYMAKERS.

Wow just speechless.

Boldin and TO don't push off like Irvin did... they are physical in their RAC. Completely different. I don't believe Irvin caught a TD without pushing off... ok that's exaggeration. Still, WRs are no longer allowed to push off the way Irvin did.As for HOF QBs... so is Terry Bradshaw. Be on a good team and you're in the HOF at QB. Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them, but he's not a Favre, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Manning, etc.

 

[gianmarco]

Too bad Vick isn't available for a while. I heard his cousin Aaron Brooks is, though....

and lol@Brady being a system QB. I have no problem with differing opinions on most players and teams, but there's a couple guys in the league that simply don't fit that bill. Calling Brady a system QB is like calling LT a system RB or Tony Gonzalez a system TE or TO a system WR.

Brady is an elite, HOF QB and has more than proven this time and time again. With you saying that, I truly have to question if you've ever watched him play more than a couple games, and if you have, if you know what you're watching on the football field.

 

[Challenge Everything]

Just think if Favre hadn't unretired....You think the Pats would have made a call to Green Bay? That could have been REALLY interesting.

This would have been NFL Gold. Could have gone either way though since it is so late. Even Favre would have needed a couple of weeks to get the system down.

 

[gianmarco]

Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Todem]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon.

That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.

Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.

Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.

Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.

How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.

The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.

Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

I am speechless at your posts here.....speechless.System QB's? Those are 2 HOF's your talking about. You need to be super accurate and smart to be a great QB...Brady and Aikman fit both those things. These system arguments are a joke.

Michael Irvin is one of the all time great physical WR's and guy's like Boldin, and T.O. can thank Irvin for giving them a blueprint of how to be physical, run great routes and be PLAYMAKERS.

Wow just speechless.

Boldin and TO don't push off like Irvin did... they are physical in their RAC. Completely different. I don't believe Irvin caught a TD without pushing off... ok that's exaggeration. Still, WRs are no longer allowed to push off the way Irvin did.As for HOF QBs... so is Terry Bradshaw. Be on a good team and you're in the HOF at QB. Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them, but he's not a Favre, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Manning, etc.

Ok...Aikman I would not mention in the same breath as Favre, Marino, Elway, Manning, Kelly and Montana....but Brady I would without question. The guy worked with really average talent IMO and won 3 Super Bowls with them. Great teams no doubt and New England has been the model of team play. But I think Brady would be great on any team and elevate the level of play of anyone around him. I think he has that skill set. Strong arm, accurate and a great pocket presence.as far as the Pat's for the remainder of the year....I have to believe they are going to make a move for another QB.

I know there is a ton of Culpepper hate around these parts...and he has proven he is not a very good QB anymore...but you think they bring him in for a look? Or his is knee that bad and he has truly lost his mobility...because he seemed to have it last season at times and with all that talent around him he may be a decent option.

 

[Ned]

Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them

Wow. Just wow.

credibility going down the toilet with every post.

 

[Jeremy]

Well, if Cassell goes out there and throws for 4000 yards and 30+ TDs, it might give some credance to those who say Brady is more lucky (to be in BB's system) than good. We've been trained by ESPN to believe that the QB is the be all and end all to a team's success. Let's see if that's true or not. Should be interesting.

 

[Obie Wan]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I knew I shouldn't have asked, but since I did . . .Who did Brady have on offense besides himself? One year he had Dillon.

That's about it. Did he have a HOF RB? Nope.

Did he have a HOF WR? Nope.

Did he have perennial Pro Bowl linemen? Nope.

Did he have a Pro Bowl TE? Nyet.

How many Pro Bowl players (other than Brady) were on the Pro Bowl in all those years? Troy Brown was selceted as a kick returner. And Matt Light was an injury replacement to an injury replacement in 2006. That's it.

The Cowboys had several Pro Bowl lineman (Netwon, Stepnoski, Tuinei, Donaldson, Allen, Williams), many of which went to multiple Pro Bowls. Emmitt, Irvin, Novacek, and Moose Johnson all went to multiple Pro Bowls.

Aikman may have been a system QB, but the Pats have had average talent on offense until last year when Brady showed what he could do with a better pool of players on offense.

I guess we'll see. I tihnk the PAtriots players didn't get enough credit for how good they were to be honest. But that's a Belichick thing, no one should stand out. The Cowboys were totally different... they tried to be as flashy as possible. Brady has had an excellent OL, good WRs. Sure maybe they didn't have Michael Irvin (but heck, Irvin wouldn't be good in today's rules anyway)...

I am speechless at your posts here.....speechless.System QB's? Those are 2 HOF's your talking about. You need to be super accurate and smart to be a great QB...Brady and Aikman fit both those things. These system arguments are a joke.

Michael Irvin is one of the all time great physical WR's and guy's like Boldin, and T.O. can thank Irvin for giving them a blueprint of how to be physical, run great routes and be PLAYMAKERS.

Wow just speechless.

Boldin and TO don't push off like Irvin did... they are physical in their RAC. Completely different. I don't believe Irvin caught a TD without pushing off... ok that's exaggeration. Still, WRs are no longer allowed to push off the way Irvin did.As for HOF QBs... so is Terry Bradshaw. Be on a good team and you're in the HOF at QB. Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them, but he's not a Favre, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Manning, etc.

no other WR was allowed to push off when Irvin played either.America's TEam got special treatment

 

[T Bell]

I'm curious, did Belichick get testy at all during the presser or was he his usual cheerful self?

 

[switz]

Aikman was NOT a great QB - put it this way, Dilfer was better. I tihnk Brady is slightly better than them

Wow. Just wow.

credibility going down the toilet with every post.

Well, good thing I wasn't worried about my credibility in your eyes :(

 

[Obie Wan]

BB says they are "not working out any QBs from what people may have heard." "Cassel is the man and they are focusing on the jets this week"

Hate seeing anyone get hurt... but at least now we'll know if Brady is really good, or if it's just NE's system.

I don't even know why I am even asking this, but did Brady's perfromance from 2001-2006 not show you anything? Or was the system overshadowing his (IMO) so-so supporting cast on offense in all those years?

Well... I guess based on my statement, you should know I think the system had more to do with anything than Brady. :( Reminds me of Troy Aikman.

There could be something to your theory if it is a system of cheating to which you refer.Brady had a special ability to quickly process the stolen info he was fed thru his head set. Not everyone could have exploited that info like he could.Cassell is well versed in those same techniques which may be why the Pats are not running out get an outsider to play QB. Forget the video taping, the Pats cheating goes far beyond that entry level stuff to include electronic eavesdropping and use of multiple aduio frequencies- none of which was investigated, let alone stopped, by Goodell.

 

[JGalligan]

Damnit.. I just spent 1 of 14 yearly waiver wire moves on Chris Simms..

Was Cassel available?

No, he had just been taken.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I'm curious, did Belichick get testy at all during the presser or was he his usual cheerful self?

No, he won that round (if you look at it as reporters attempting to incite a sports figure into blowing up, which I do).For those who take enjoyment in watching reporters squirm due to lack of information, which I do, he was at his best.