My son's Legion baseball team is playing in the State Championship today. If they win, they advance to play in the Regionals next week. The only issue is that is 1200 miles away making it a long drive. It is a double elimination tournament starting Wednesday and ending Sunday so it makes it hard to buy an airline ticket since I don't know when they will be done. I have a friend who has a 4 seat private plane that offered me a ride but my wife thinks I am crazy to consider it for safety reasons. Have any of you flew on a small private plane?
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titusbramble
Footballguy
It's probably safer than car tbqh
Orange&Blue
Footballguy
have her look up aircraft fatality rates compared to cars
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
You're thinking of commercial aircraft. Private aircraft are much, much more dangerous than commercial carriers. I can't vouch for this source and apparently it's not easy to make this an apples-to-apples comparison, but it's not actually clear that driving is more dangerous than flying privately.
That said, yeah I'd probably fly. On a Danger Scale ranging from "riding a bicycle across an empty parking lot" to "going to the bottom of the ocean in a submersible built in some dude's garage," taking a flight on a private plane is a lot closer to the first thing than the second.
Chemical X
Footballguy
if the pilot isn’t instrument rated, hard pass.
johnnycakes
Footballguy
1200 miles in a 4-seater like a Piper Cherokee or a Cessna 172 will be a tough ride. I'd see about an airline ticket.
If you are not a professional pilot, you most likely have not logged hours on a flight simulator practicing what to do in various emergency situations. I'm sure your friend has had many successful flights, but it only takes one emergency in the air and if he's not prepared for it you're in serious trouble. I would rather deal with the hassle/cost of refundable airline tickets and dealing with their flight schedules than take the risk with an amateur pilot.
El Floppo
Footballguy
when I was 15, my club soccer team had a tournament near Sacramento, roughly 1.5hrs by car from where I lived. I also had a piano competition at the end of the 2nd day of the tournament.
we went to the finals of the soccer tournament, which then went into overtime, both of which put the piano competition at risk. my teammate's dad had a little plane they had flown up in- and offered to take me back- cutting the time in about half. I barely made it there in time, still in my uniform since I had expected to go home first... but I never would have without the plane ride home. it must have been a 2 seater- my dad gave his son a ride back and then picked me up.
the ride itself was amazing and never felt anything but safe.
my wife would never let that happen with our kids. ever. ever. ever.
we went to the finals of the soccer tournament, which then went into overtime, both of which put the piano competition at risk. my teammate's dad had a little plane they had flown up in- and offered to take me back- cutting the time in about half. I barely made it there in time, still in my uniform since I had expected to go home first... but I never would have without the plane ride home. it must have been a 2 seater- my dad gave his son a ride back and then picked me up.
the ride itself was amazing and never felt anything but safe.
my wife would never let that happen with our kids. ever. ever. ever.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'd always wondered about this... so looked it up. Bolded at the bottom seems to be the answer.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Yes, many times. If you know it is an experienced pilot if you look at stats and the way people drive today it is much safer to fly.
That being said there is one guy who is a pilot I know who I would not drive in a car with him let alone a plane, but he is 55 years old and flies 2-3 times a week for 25 years without any issues. Just a big boozer, but I know he does not drink 24 hours before flying.
Your own link indicates the #1 cause of accidents in GA is pilot error. So, I'd say the best thing you can do to minimize your risk of an accident is to ensure your pilot takes their flying seriously.
Not sure what you're basing this on but I can assure you that even GA pilots train for emergencies, and not in a simulator, but in a real plane. The amount of training one goes through before being granted a Private Pilot's License is extensive and includes emergencies.
rockaction
Footballguy
I wouldn't do it. I'd especially not let my children do it if I had any (I'm assuming that I'd be a normal parent whose throat would get a lump whenever their child did anything needlessly dangerous).
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Our CTO died in a private plane crash. I don’t like em personally. I’m talking the 2-4 seaters. Not a Gulfstream V
Unfortuntely we lost both games yesterday in the championship in the double elimination tournament so they won't be making the trip. They finished the season 50-8 and that was the first time they lost 2 games in a row all season. Bummer.
I still don't know if I would have driven or taken him up on his offer to go on his plane. Thanks for all of the replies.
I still don't know if I would have driven or taken him up on his offer to go on his plane. Thanks for all of the replies.
Zow
Footballguy
1. No, I've never flown in a private plane, but I almost went to a golf tournament this past weekend in one similar to what you described. So, yes, I'm open to it.
2. I miss legion ball. Loved the spring/summer where I played HS, legion, and amateur ball all at the same time. Must have played over 100 games that year.
2. I miss legion ball. Loved the spring/summer where I played HS, legion, and amateur ball all at the same time. Must have played over 100 games that year.
the moops
Footballguy
I know this doesn't matter now - but you could have just bought a one way ticket. Or bought a WED- SUN one and if you lost, just hang out for the duration
Galileo
Footballguy
In July of 2018, my family (4 of us) flew in a float plane as part of an Alaskan excursion to the Misty Fjord National Monument area near Ketchikan. It was a fantastic experience, one of the highlights of our trip. The pilot's name was Randy. He was a cool dude and a fantastic guide who seemed to be living his dream life. Less than a year later, I heard about mid air collision between two float planes in Ketchikan. Curious, I started looking for info on the incident, and my heart sank when I discovered the plane we flew in was involved in the crash. Randy and his 4 passengers all perished in the crash, along with a passenger in the second plane. Several others from the second plane were injured. My wife was hesitant to go on this excursion when I booked it. She was pretty shaken when she heard the news. I suspect we will never be traveling in such an aircraft again. Wiki write up of the incident
RIP and thanks for the experience, Randy.
RIP and thanks for the experience, Randy.
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