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One of the glaring snubs that nobody has mentioned yet. How about the guy in the AFC who leads in TD receptions not making it. Moss didn't have a Moss-like year, but still he should have been in the Pro Bowl seeing how the other AFC WRs ended up this year.
:bag: No way shouldn't Moss have made it over Welker and his 2 TDs and 10 yards-per-catch. I don't like Moss, but he is much more deserving than a possession receiver like Welker.
Why should he deserve it over a possession receiver?
Because he is better and so were his stats.
Yards and first downs? TD's? Which stats? Catches? Targets? 3rd down conversions?Kinda vague care to clarify which stat makes him better and which stats your talking about?I have added a few for you. Welker leads in catch %,Receptions, Yds, 1st downs, and Yds per game. Moss leads in TD's and Fumbles. Moss also appears to have a few more 20+ also.Stats Welker MossCatch Rate 76% 57%Recptions 102 66Yards 1,071 9081st Dwns 51 43Lng 64 6720+ 12 1440+ 1 2Fumbles 1 3Yds/Game 76.5 64.9Possession receivers are needed and Welker is a very good WR.
 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:bag:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
Rivers was probably hurt by his team's record, as well as the fact that he is a bit of a punk who appears to be disliked by a lot of players and fans.
Well, IMO it would be wrong for anyone to vote for Cutler over Rivers based on record. If not for Hochuli, both teams would be 7-7 and the Chargers would be leading the division over Denver based on that game.And it's unfortunate if people didn't vote for him because they dislike him. He isn't a punk. :lmao: As one example, Joey Porter is certainly worse, and he's starting.
 
my question marks:

NFC:

QB-Eli makes it?.....thought you could plug A.Rodgers or even M.Ryan here

RB-Portis?.............could make a strong case for D.Williams

WR-Steve Smith didn't have a Pro Bowl year.......Calvin Johnson CERTAINLY DID (note that TO didn't make it!)

AFC

QB-Farve????.......Rivers should have made it (Cassel should have gotten close, but just misses)

RB-Ronnie Brown???.....I like either MJD or Slaton here

WR-Reggie Wayne did not have a Pro Bowl yr..........but the problem is I can't think of a good replacement (maybe Moss or Bowe?)

TE-Gates????.........D.Clark had a Pro Bowl yr

Also noticed that no JAX player made the list.

Other teams w/o a player?

 
Cliff notes on my long post above.

Deserving props for Ratliff and Farrior.

Abraham and Cole >> Peppers

I'd have tried to squeeze in Dansby or Thomas Davis over Brooks.

Nick Collins seems crazy, but the crop is really thin in the NFC.

Haloti Ngata gets screwed by the talent at DT in the AFC, as does Kirk Morrison at ILB.

 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:thumbup:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
Manning was the only starter because of his name. I'm not sure I agree that Rivers SHOULD be the starter because of his team's record and because of his inconsistency from week to week but you could make a strong case for him if you look at the numbers.I wanted Rivers and Cutler to BOTH go because I know how close the two of them are.... I would really enjoy watching them swap stories and tell each other inside jokes that Peyton isn't privy to.Haha... no really!! How cool would that be to watch Peyton trying to keep those 2 separated during practice.
 
One of the glaring snubs that nobody has mentioned yet. How about the guy in the AFC who leads in TD receptions not making it. Moss didn't have a Moss-like year, but still he should have been in the Pro Bowl seeing how the other AFC WRs ended up this year.
:thumbup: No way shouldn't Moss have made it over Welker and his 2 TDs and 10 yards-per-catch. I don't like Moss, but he is much more deserving than a possession receiver like Welker.
Why should he deserve it over a possession receiver?
Because he is better and so were his stats.
Yards and first downs? TD's? Which stats? Catches? Targets? 3rd down conversions?Kinda vague care to clarify which stat makes him better and which stats your talking about?I have added a few for you. Welker leads in catch %,Receptions, Yds, 1st downs, and Yds per game. Moss leads in TD's and Fumbles. Moss also appears to have a few more 20+ also.Stats Welker MossCatch Rate 76% 57%Recptions 102 66Yards 1,071 9081st Dwns 51 43Lng 64 6720+ 12 1440+ 1 2Fumbles 1 3Yds/Game 76.5 64.9Possession receivers are needed and Welker is a very good WR.
The only stat on here that has much separation at all is the catch rate and receptions. Given Moss' role in the offense and Welker's it is plan as day as to why those numbers are as such. Ad the fact that Casel couldn't put the ball within 10 yds of Moss until recently. Nothing you posted here remotely makes up for this state: TDs, Moss 10, Welker 2.
 
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No Bengals, I don't think.

Anyone know where to find alternates?

I'm searching team sites, and have found some, but if there is a full list...

 
My post for our Roundtable column this week:

Offense, shomffense.

As was the case last season, the NFC was loaded at end. John Abraham, Aaron Kampman and Trent Cole all have legitimate arguments over Julius Peppers, particularly Abraham, who's been more consistent against better offensive lines than in recent memory. And it's hard not to see Cole as a better all-around player than Peppers. I'd have put either on my ballot ahead of Peppers. Nice to see Jay Ratliff get recognized. Usually we're banging on the Cowboys' undeserving pick(s). Ratliff absolutely belongs. No question about the two Minnesota tackles. Others have shown flashes (Rocky Bernard, both Giants starters), but these three were the best of the bunch.

Pretty weak OLB group in the NFC this season, so, though Derrick Brooks is getting in on name recognition mostly (he's not even an every-down player any more), it's hard to argue too much. I'd have found a way to recognize Karlos Dansby as an OLB or argue for Thomas Davis' quiet breakout season. Jon Beason is definitely deserving at the reserve ILB spot; there's a strong argument that he's played better than Patrick Willis. Bradie James and London Fletcher get honorable mentions and E.J. Henderson would have been right there had he stayed healthy.

Can't argue with the three cornerback selections. Chris Gamble, Charles Tillman and Corey Webster have all been pretty consistent, but none have a clearly stronger argument. At first glance, Nick Collins is a surprising selection. He's definitely played better this year, though, and O.J. Atogwe may have been his only real competition at FS in the NFC.

The AFC is much weaker at end than the NFC. Both Freeney and Mathis are solid players, but neither are close to the all-around talent that was left out in the NFC. It may have been nice to see a 3-4 end like Aaron Smith or Ty Warren recognized here. Awesome trio of tackles cost Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork, Jamal Williams and Tony Brown any chance at recognition. Ngata may be the best defender left off the team in either conference.

Very hard to argue with the three OLB selections, but Calvin Pace, Lamarr Woodley and Keith Bulluck all deserve honorable mention for their solid all-around contributions. Inside, Stephen Cooper and Kirk Morrison toil in silence in the AFC West and DeMeco Ryans battled admirably through injury for most of the season. Lewis and Farrior anchor the best defenses in the conference (along with Tennessee) and were most deserving.

At corner, there's Asomugha and everyone else. The everyone else could have been much different, though. There's an argument that Nick Harper may be a better corner than Cortland Finnegan, which is more praise for Harper than an indictment of Finnegan, who is deserving in his own right. Revis has had his ups and downs this season. Ike Taylor and Kelvin Hayden, as well as an injured Rashean Mathis were probably in the mix as well. Hard to argue with Troy Polamalu, Chris Hope and Ed Reed at safety. Gibril Wilson may not be in their class on the field, but is a solid player. Yeremiah Bell's breakout season could have been recognized as well.

With rare exception, this group looks very solid.
You lost me at Cooper.
 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:thumbup:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
Rivers was probably hurt by his team's record, as well as the fact that he is a bit of a punk who appears to be disliked by a lot of players and fans.
Well, IMO it would be wrong for anyone to vote for Cutler over Rivers based on record. If not for Hochuli, both teams would be 7-7 and the Chargers would be leading the division over Denver based on that game.And it's unfortunate if people didn't vote for him because they dislike him. He isn't a punk. :yawn: As one example, Joey Porter is certainly worse, and he's starting.
Without getting into the fact that Denver could have still gotten the ball back had Hochuli made the correct call (2 timeouts left and 1:20 on the clock), the bottom line is that the Chargers are looked at as a team that has greatly underachieved this year, and like it or not, Rivers' chances suffered as a result of that. And he hasn't been that great to where he was impossible to leave off. I think he should have been 3rd choice behind Manning and Cutler (both of whom have carried their teams to winning records), but he wasn't a no-brainer selection to most, obviously. He should have been there over Favre, though; that much is obvious. As for Porter, he is leading the league in sacks (or he might be 2nd or 3rd now...cannot recall), and is the most visible player on a defense of a team that has went from 1-15 to 9-5. That speaks volumes. As for Rivers being a punk, he does appear to be disliked by both fans and players, so take that for what is is worth.
 
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My post for our Roundtable column this week:

Very hard to argue with the three OLB selections, but Calvin Pace, Lamarr Woodley and Keith Bulluck all deserve honorable mention for their solid all-around contributions. Inside, Stephen Cooper and Kirk Morrison toil in silence in the AFC West and DeMeco Ryans battled admirably through injury for most of the season. Lewis and Farrior anchor the best defenses in the conference (along with Tennessee) and were most deserving.
You lost me at Cooper.
Yeah, I wouldn't say he's clearly deserving, just that he belongs in the conversation -- I could have and maybe should have listed Paul Posluszny and Gary Brackett, or maybe just left Morrison's name up there. Cooper is nowhere near the thumping ILB that Lewis or Farrior are, but I think he's a better all-around player than most give him credit for. He can cover and blitz and he supports the run pretty well.Edit to remove comment about Donnie Edwards and his non-existent many Pro Bowls. :thumbup:

 
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One of the glaring snubs that nobody has mentioned yet. How about the guy in the AFC who leads in TD receptions not making it. Moss didn't have a Moss-like year, but still he should have been in the Pro Bowl seeing how the other AFC WRs ended up this year.
:lmao: No way shouldn't Moss have made it over Welker and his 2 TDs and 10 yards-per-catch. I don't like Moss, but he is much more deserving than a possession receiver like Welker.
Why should he deserve it over a possession receiver?
Because he is better and so were his stats.
Yards and first downs? TD's? Which stats? Catches? Targets? 3rd down conversions?Kinda vague care to clarify which stat makes him better and which stats your talking about?I have added a few for you. Welker leads in catch %,Receptions, Yds, 1st downs, and Yds per game. Moss leads in TD's and Fumbles. Moss also appears to have a few more 20+ also.Stats Welker MossCatch Rate 76% 57%Recptions 102 66Yards 1,071 9081st Dwns 51 43Lng 64 6720+ 12 1440+ 1 2Fumbles 1 3Yds/Game 76.5 64.9Possession receivers are needed and Welker is a very good WR.
The only stat on here that has much separation at all is the catch rate and receptions. Given Moss' role in the offense and Welker's it is plan as day as to why those numbers are as such. Ad the fact that Casel couldn't put the ball within 10 yds of Moss until recently. Nothing you posted here remotely makes up for this state: TDs, Moss 10, Welker 2.
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?The big guy only had 3 more long yardage receptions than Welker also. I can easily see the Football case for Welker being in over Moss.
 
One of the glaring snubs that nobody has mentioned yet. How about the guy in the AFC who leads in TD receptions not making it. Moss didn't have a Moss-like year, but still he should have been in the Pro Bowl seeing how the other AFC WRs ended up this year.
:lmao: No way shouldn't Moss have made it over Welker and his 2 TDs and 10 yards-per-catch. I don't like Moss, but he is much more deserving than a possession receiver like Welker.
Why should he deserve it over a possession receiver?
To further his point, Welker came to play EVERY week where Moss cashed it in for the first 4 or 5 weeks after Brady went down. When he finally realized that Cassell could play.
 
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
To further his point, Welker came to play EVERY week where Moss cashed it in for the first 4 or 5 weeks after Brady went down. When he finally realized that Cassell could play.
Did I imagine Moss' big day the same GAME where Brady got hurt, of his big game in their 4th game of the season?
 
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Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:lmao:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
Rivers was probably hurt by his team's record, as well as the fact that he is a bit of a punk who appears to be disliked by a lot of players and fans.
Calvin Johnson has been the best wide receiver in the NFL this season. It's not his fault he plays for the Lions. Throw the guy a bone.
If they did, he'd probably catch it and take it to the house.
:goodposting: haha... nice
 
We might jus tbe able to construct an all snub team from the snubees of both conferences and be able to construct a better squad than either named.
This is a pretty good looking offense.QB: Rivers, Rogers, PenningtonRB: D. Williams, Westbrook, MJDFB: Tony RichardsonWR: R. Moss, Calvin Johnson, A. Bryant, G. JenningsTE: D. Clark, O. DanielsT: Jeff Otah, Ryan Clady, Levi Jones?G: Travelle Wharton, Logan Mankins?C: ???
 
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
To further his point, Welker came to play EVERY week where Moss cashed it in for the first 4 or 5 weeks after Brady went down. When he finally realized that Cassell could play.
Did I imagine Moss' big day the same GAME where Brady got hurt, of his big game in their 4th game of the season?
And Moss still managed to score 5x as many TDs.....Case closed.
 
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
yeah, and andre johnson is only a "possession receiver". Oh, and Larry Fitzgerald is only good because Boldin is such a deep threat :loco:
 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:loco:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
I think Philriv's Q score hurt him.Brett Favre is a national treasure, a household name, and people like him. He can also throw the ball more than four yards without looking like a little girl, which works in his favor. The perception that PhilRiv is the emotional equivalent of Boo Radley on meth probably cost him some fan votes. No father would point at PhilRiv and say, "Try to play and be like that guy, son. He seems to really have his head screwed on straight."PhilRiv is the kind of guy who, if you were playing tennis with him at a club, would argue the line calls and taunt you if you were losing. That is to say, he's not a gentleman.As I voted, I wanted to watch Brett Favre play one more time this season. I didn't want to see PhilRiv.
 
One of the glaring snubs that nobody has mentioned yet. How about the guy in the AFC who leads in TD receptions not making it. Moss didn't have a Moss-like year, but still he should have been in the Pro Bowl seeing how the other AFC WRs ended up this year.
:loco: No way shouldn't Moss have made it over Welker and his 2 TDs and 10 yards-per-catch. I don't like Moss, but he is much more deserving than a possession receiver like Welker.
Why should he deserve it over a possession receiver?
To further his point, Welker came to play EVERY week where Moss cashed it in for the first 4 or 5 weeks after Brady went down. When he finally realized that Cassell could play.
the ONLY reason welker made it is because of moss. You didn;t watch much of NE this year I am guessing, moss never cashed it in.
 
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
yeah, and andre johnson is only a "possession receiver". Oh, and Larry Fitzgerald is only good because Boldin is such a deep threat :loco:
what are you talking about?
 
Another snub I just noticed that seems awful bad to me, Josh Cribbs not making it as the AFC Special Teamer.
That's two you got wrong in the same thread.McKelvin & Washington both had better years; Josh missed a couple games and his averages are way down from last year (when he deservedly went).
 
I don't give two flips about the Pro Bowl but it's crazy that Jeff Faine and Barrett Ruud didn't make it. Particularly Faine.

 
I hate go against the grain of the Rivers-Lovefest, but he's at the helm of one of the league's most disappointing teams. He has as much talent as anyone in the league and he's not getting it done.

 
my question marks:NFC:WR-Steve Smith didn't have a Pro Bowl year.......Calvin Johnson CERTAINLY DID (note that TO didn't make it!)
What are you smoking??? Smith leads him in recpt and yardage in two fewer games. That's 20 more yards per game. God created Steve Smith in his image and then thought about some playmates for him.
 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:lmao:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
Rivers was probably hurt by his team's record, as well as the fact that he is a bit of a punk who appears to be disliked by a lot of players and fans.
Well, IMO it would be wrong for anyone to vote for Cutler over Rivers based on record. If not for Hochuli, both teams would be 7-7 and the Chargers would be leading the division over Denver based on that game.And it's unfortunate if people didn't vote for him because they dislike him. He isn't a punk. :lmao: As one example, Joey Porter is certainly worse, and he's starting.
Without getting into the fact that Denver could have still gotten the ball back had Hochuli made the correct call (2 timeouts left and 1:20 on the clock)
We don't need to go down a tangent here, but I felt compelled to post this:
Second there was still time left on the clock and Denver still had timeouts. So for everyone saying SD would of won that is not a fact. Denver could of made the stop (not very likely since they were not stopping anyone) but it could of happened.
It is theoretically possible they could have won. But San Diego would have had the ball with 1:17 remaining. If Denver held them without a first down and used its 2 remaining timeouts after first and second down, the Chargers would have punted, and Denver would probably have taken possession on the other side of midfield with about 10 seconds and no timeouts remaining. The odds of them scoring a TD if the fumble was ruled correctly are about as low as it gets.
 
the bottom line is that the Chargers are looked at as a team that has greatly underachieved this year, and like it or not, Rivers' chances suffered as a result of that.
I think this has to be the answer. I just don't agree with it. Certainly, while Rivers has been far from perfect, he is not one of the main reasons the Chargers have underachieved. So it doesn't seem right to me to punish him for it.
And he hasn't been that great to where he was impossible to leave off.
Does anyone know when the last time was the NFL leader in TD passes was healthy and did not make the Pro Bowl? How about the NFL leader in QB rating?
I think he should have been 3rd choice behind Manning and Cutler (both of whom have carried their teams to winning records), but he wasn't a no-brainer selection to most, obviously. He should have been there over Favre, though; that much is obvious.
LOL at saying Cutler is more deserving. :lmao:
As for Porter, he is leading the league in sacks (or he might be 2nd or 3rd now...cannot recall), and is the most visible player on a defense of a team that has went from 1-15 to 9-5. That speaks volumes.
I agree Porter is deserving. I was illustrating that great players aren't necessarily punished in the voting for being punks.
 
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not taking anything away from Moss. Fact is that Welker is also a very good WR or he would not be putting up the numbers he is.
 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:scared:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
I think Philriv's Q score hurt him.Brett Favre is a national treasure, a household name, and people like him. He can also throw the ball more than four yards without looking like a little girl, which works in his favor. The perception that PhilRiv is the emotional equivalent of Boo Radley on meth probably cost him some fan votes. No father would point at PhilRiv and say, "Try to play and be like that guy, son. He seems to really have his head screwed on straight."PhilRiv is the kind of guy who, if you were playing tennis with him at a club, would argue the line calls and taunt you if you were losing. That is to say, he's not a gentleman.As I voted, I wanted to watch Brett Favre play one more time this season. I didn't want to see PhilRiv.
Clearly Q score was higher for Manning and Favre. But your description of Rivers just shows you don't really know much about him. His reputation is overblown and undeserved.
 
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not taking anything away from Moss. Fact is that Welker is also a very good WR or he would not be putting up the numbers he is.
Both are good WRs, we can all agree on that. Moss drives the success of that passing offense in a lot of peoples minds though. On top of that, his stats were actually very good in relation to that of the other AFC WRs. Place him in the NFC and I'd say outright he has no business being in the Pro Bowl. Heck, keep Welker in if you like. Take out Wayne then. Moss had better numbers than both of them.
 
So catching the ball more consistently for more yardage, more first downs, and more yds per game means nothing since Moss got the end result of the hard work with TDs?
You do know that coverage constantly being rolled to Moss is why Welker is able to get open for so many short passes, right? Moss is such a dangerous deep threat, and NE is so efficient at running their system, that just about any good possession receiver could do what Welker is doing. He is a good possession receiver; nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not taking anything away from Moss. Fact is that Welker is also a very good WR or he would not be putting up the numbers he is.
Both are good WRs, we can all agree on that. Moss drives the success of that passing offense in a lot of peoples minds though. On top of that, his stats were actually very good in relation to that of the other AFC WRs. Place him in the NFC and I'd say outright he has no business being in the Pro Bowl. Heck, keep Welker in if you like. Take out Wayne then. Moss had better numbers than both of them.
Welker's the most valuable player on that offense this year.
 
my question marks:

NFC:

WR-Steve Smith didn't have a Pro Bowl year.......Calvin Johnson CERTAINLY DID (note that TO didn't make it!)
What are you smoking??? Smith leads him in recpt and yardage in two fewer games. That's 20 more yards per game. God created Steve Smith in his image and then thought about some playmates for him.
First of all, CJ plays for the Lions and did incredible in spite of being on an 0-14 team where the offense had nearly 5 different QBs during the year. 2nd: CJ didn't have the benefit of a running game and the other team could try to stop him. CAR 4th in rushing....DET 31st

and lastly, Why is it that S.Smith missed those 2 games?????????

Answer: Because he was a punk and cheap shot'd one of his OWN teammates. IMO, this clearly should have been the deciding factor for choosing CJ over Steve Smith.

 
As a Packer fan, I'm not sure I'd consider Nick Collins as a Pro Bowl player.
First half of the year? Yes.Since then? Nope.And whoever said Rodgers over Eli...no, not right now.Tough for Jennings being in a conference with some damn good WRs.
 
Taken from another site....

Jake Long - 14 Starts - 5 Penalties for 40 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 15.5 yards

Joe Thomas - 14 Starts - 6 Penalties for 35 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 11.5 yards

Jason Peters - 13 Starts - 8 Penalties for 55 yards - 11.5 sacks allowed for 106.5 yards

How did Peters get in over Long?

 
[Chargers post]

LOL. Do the voters even watch the games?

The only Chargers who should be going are Rivers and Scifres -- and they didn't make it.

Gates and (especially) Dielman shouldn't be going anywhere near the Pro Bowl this year.

Rivers should have been a shoe-in. He leads the NFL in touchdown passes, QB rating, and adjusted yards per attempt. Jay Cutler got in over him? That's worse than leaving LT out in 2003.

I guess Lechler got in over Scifres because he had more total punt yards.

And how did Cromartie make second alternate ahead of Jammer? Ridiculous.

 
Rivers getting left off might be the biggest snub of all time. Favre my ###
:lmao:Not only should Favre not have made it ahead of him, no AFC QB should have made it ahead of him, Manning and Cutler included. Rivers should be the AFC starter.
I think Philriv's Q score hurt him.Brett Favre is a national treasure, a household name, and people like him. He can also throw the ball more than four yards without looking like a little girl, which works in his favor. The perception that PhilRiv is the emotional equivalent of Boo Radley on meth probably cost him some fan votes. No father would point at PhilRiv and say, "Try to play and be like that guy, son. He seems to really have his head screwed on straight."PhilRiv is the kind of guy who, if you were playing tennis with him at a club, would argue the line calls and taunt you if you were losing. That is to say, he's not a gentleman.As I voted, I wanted to watch Brett Favre play one more time this season. I didn't want to see PhilRiv.
I can't believe that there are people out there who actual believe stuff like this. Philip Rivers is EXACTLY the kind of kid you want your son to grow up to be. He's a virtual coach on the field, with a competitive streak. Rivers doesn't curse when he talks trash. He's a family man with 3 kids married to his high school girlfriend. He doesn't go out to the clubs, doesn't party, doesn't do anything illegal. He's competitive and talks back when the defense trash talks him. He is the epitome of exactly what anyone would hope their son to turn into.
 
Poor DeAngalo Williams. He is 4th in the NFL in rushing, first in YPC with an obscene 5.5, 2nd in rushing touchdowns with 14, first in total TDs with 16, and he didn't make it. Ouch.But as always, fast starters always get the nod over those who start slow and finish strong.
Just one a many reasons why Pro Bowl voting is a joke. It's done way to early.
Always funny when people seems shocked with, "How did he make it?!?" or "It's a travesty that he isn't going!"Doesn't matter when they vote, for a large part the Pro Bowl has been and always will be a popularity contest as long as the fans are allowed to vote for it. Some big market teams get to stuff the box with a large fan base and players with big name recognition (see Farve and Gates) without the production get to go.Deserves and stats got nothing to do with it. It's a popularity contest, plain and simple.
 
Calvin Johnson should have gotten in on pity alone.

Produced given the worst QB situation in recent memory.

 
Regarding Rivers out and Cutler in due to record.

With one certain official's correct call, both teams would be 7-7 (with the Chargers having a better division record currently).

So, Cutler's better record isn't all that more impressive than Rivers.

And both should be in over Favre.

 
The Pro Bowl is the biggest joke all-star game in pro sports and it begins every year with the selection process.

Favre? LMAO.

Ronnie Brown? WOW.

 
Taken from another site....

Jake Long - 14 Starts - 5 Penalties for 40 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 15.5 yards

Joe Thomas - 14 Starts - 6 Penalties for 35 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 11.5 yards

Jason Peters - 13 Starts - 8 Penalties for 55 yards - 11.5 sacks allowed for 106.5 yards

How did Peters get in over Long?
:thumbup: I have a feeling Jake will make many trips - he's getting the rookie snub here.Ronnie Brown getting in is a joke

Favre over Pennington is a bigger joke.

 
I hate go against the grain of the Rivers-Lovefest, but he's at the helm of one of the league's most disappointing teams. He has as much talent as anyone in the league and he's not getting it done.
He has the NFLs best passer rating, most TDs, highest yards/completion average, best TD/int ratio, and he's 5th in yards/game. What exactly is he supposed to do? You want him to play RB and ILB too?
 
Taken from another site....

Jake Long - 14 Starts - 5 Penalties for 40 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 15.5 yards

Joe Thomas - 14 Starts - 6 Penalties for 35 yards - 2.5 sacks allowed for 11.5 yards

Jason Peters - 13 Starts - 8 Penalties for 55 yards - 11.5 sacks allowed for 106.5 yards

How did Peters get in over Long?
:goodposting: I have a feeling Jake will make many trips - he's getting the rookie snub here.Ronnie Brown getting in is a joke

Favre over Pennington is a bigger joke.
Pennington? Pennington? How do you mention him before RiversAnd Ryan Clady has been just as good if not better than Long

 
Another snub I just noticed that seems awful bad to me, Josh Cribbs not making it as the AFC Special Teamer.
That's two you got wrong in the same thread.McKelvin & Washington both had better years; Josh missed a couple games and his averages are way down from last year (when he deservedly went).
Reading comprehension down? See the bold portion.
No he read that right and so did you - Cribbs had an abbreviated year - Washington had an outstanding year on Special teams as did McLovin. I would have put Cribbs in over McLovin, but I don't think this is that out of whack.I still can't get past Gates over Clark. Hell, Zach Miller and Dustin Keller were more useful than Gates has been. That'sthe biggest joke I have seen in the voting. Favre is a close second but at least you could argue he's made a huge impact as a Jet and been a big part of why they are where they are.

I wouldn't make that argument (and I'm a jet fan) but I could see a well crafted discourse on it.

Gates though. WTF?

 

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