Pro Bowl SNUBS (1 Viewer)

[Phurfur]

I am surprised people still pay attention to the Pro Bowl. Will any of you watch?

 

[duaneok66]

I am surprised people still pay attention to the Pro Bowl. Will any of you watch?

they still televise it???

 

[Bronco Binkley]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Wallace 57 1152 9td'sBowe 67 1094 15td'slloyd 72 1375 10td's Bowe and LLoyd are both better statistically.

 

[Jason Wood]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Wallace 57 1152 9td'sBowe 67 1094 15td'slloyd 72 1375 10td's Bowe and LLoyd are both better statistically.

Agreed. There were snubs, but Lloyd and Bowe were HIGHLY deserving.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Wallace 57 1152 9td'sBowe 67 1094 15td'slloyd 72 1375 10td's Bowe and LLoyd are both better statistically.

Agreed. There were snubs, but Lloyd and Bowe were HIGHLY deserving.

Agree too. I might agree with Wallace over Reggie Wayne though.

 

[Jason Wood]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Wallace 57 1152 9td'sBowe 67 1094 15td'slloyd 72 1375 10td's Bowe and LLoyd are both better statistically.

Agreed. There were snubs, but Lloyd and Bowe were HIGHLY deserving.

Agree too. I might agree with Wallace over Reggie Wayne though.

That's closer IMHO, but Wayne does have 102 receptions, while Wallace has the edge in TDs.

 

[Truman]

no idea how matt ryan makes this team with his 89 passer rating. i feel like only falcons fans voted

Aaron Rodgers had 200,000 more fan votes than Ryan. It was the players and coaches who voted for Ryan. The Falcons offense is better than that of the Packers and much better than the Saints as well - of course no one has a problem with Drew Brees going with his 21 INTs. That's more than Rodgers and Ryan combined.If passer rating took sacks into account Rodgers numbers wouldn't look so inflated every year.

Didn't look like it Monday night buddy

No, Michael Turner fumbled the ball for the first time in 400 carries and Todd McClure snapped the ball into his own ###. The Saints didn't get lucky like the Falcons do every week though, this victory proved they are the better team.

 

[Truman]

no idea how matt ryan makes this team with his 89 passer rating. i feel like only falcons fans voted

Aaron Rodgers had 200,000 more fan votes than Ryan. It was the players and coaches who voted for Ryan. The Falcons offense is better than that of the Packers and much better than the Saints as well - of course no one has a problem with Drew Brees going with his 21 INTs. That's more than Rodgers and Ryan combined.If passer rating took sacks into account Rodgers numbers wouldn't look so inflated every year.

Rodgers was sacked 29 times, Ryan 22. I do not know how 7 sacks would make up the 12 point difference in passer rating. Just looking at the stats I was stunned to see that Ryan need nearly 100 additional pass attempts to achieve less statistically than Rodgers did. Especially given the vast superiority of the running game that Ryan has supporting him and Rodgers superior running skills. I do not believe that many fans out side of the Atlanta area believe that Ryan deserves the nod over Rodgers but I could be mistaken perhaps a poll is in order.

29 sacks is a career low for Rodgers and 22 a career high for Ryan. If a QB releases the ball quicker on short routes rather than getting sacked he will have a lower YPA. Rodgers and Brees both also manage to throw about a third more INTs/attempt than Ryan

 

[Breesisdaman]

Rogers has carried the Packers this year and like Drew Brees, there was not much of a running game to bail him out. There is no way Rogers is not a Pro Bowl QB. I'd put him second to Vick. As far as Ryan goes he has the third best passer rating in his division behind Freeman and Brees and without Turner he would be much worse. We saw a bit of that Monday night when Turner was taken out of the mix. Ryan couldn't put the thing on his shoulders like Rogers and Brees have done all season.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfo...QB/standard/ytd

 

[Truman]

Turner couldn't get it going against the Ravens either, so Ryan put up a (all-important) passer rating of over 100, threw for 3 TDs and led a game-winning drive inside 2 minutes.

Turner struggled against the 49ers, again Ryan bailed out the Falcons with a drive that started with 1:06 remaining at the 8 yard line and led to a FG with 2 seconds left.

Aaron Rodgers gets injured....and the Pack almost win in New England. The Packers have the best defense in the NFC, that's what's carrying them as much as Rodgers.

 

[a_troll00]

Champ Bailey?

Absolutely, Champ definitely should have been in the Pro Bowl this year.

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

already mentioned but I think Kyle Williams and Brent Grimes not only were snubbed, but had All-Pro years.

 

[Shawnky]

no idea how matt ryan makes this team with his 89 passer rating. i feel like only falcons fans voted

Aaron Rodgers had 200,000 more fan votes than Ryan. It was the players and coaches who voted for Ryan. The Falcons offense is better than that of the Packers and much better than the Saints as well - of course no one has a problem with Drew Brees going with his 21 INTs. That's more than Rodgers and Ryan combined.If passer rating took sacks into account Rodgers numbers wouldn't look so inflated every year.

Didn't look like it Monday night buddy

No, Michael Turner fumbled the ball for the first time in 400 carries and Todd McClure snapped the ball into his own ###. The Saints didn't get lucky like the Falcons do every week though, this victory proved they are the better team.

Hate to hijack, but why are Falcons fans sooo bitter this year?

 

[Bad_Mo]

no idea how matt ryan makes this team with his 89 passer rating. i feel like only falcons fans voted

Aaron Rodgers had 200,000 more fan votes than Ryan. It was the players and coaches who voted for Ryan. The Falcons offense is better than that of the Packers and much better than the Saints as well - of course no one has a problem with Drew Brees going with his 21 INTs. That's more than Rodgers and Ryan combined.If passer rating took sacks into account Rodgers numbers wouldn't look so inflated every year.

Didn't look like it Monday night buddy

No, Michael Turner fumbled the ball for the first time in 400 carries and Todd McClure snapped the ball into his own ###. The Saints didn't get lucky like the Falcons do every week though, this victory proved they are the better team.

Hate to hijack, but why are Falcons fans sooo bitter this year?

Probably because Vick is getting league MVP hype and wonder where this play was when he was in ATL...?

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Probably because Vick is getting league MVP hype and wonder where this play was when he was in ATL...?

There is no wondering, Vick has admitted that he didn't prepare himself in his Atlanta days. Not that it was a big secret, you could tell he wasn't prepared for what defensives where doing to him and just trying to out athletic people.Personally not bitter anyway, Falcons are in the playoffs and are still in control of a division title and 1 seed.

 

[Quez]

Rogers has carried the Packers this year and like Drew Brees, there was not much of a running game to bail him out. There is no way Rogers is not a Pro Bowl QB. I'd put him second to Vick. As far as Ryan goes he has the third best passer rating in his division behind Freeman and Brees and without Turner he would be much worse. We saw a bit of that Monday night when Turner was taken out of the mix. Ryan couldn't put the thing on his shoulders like Rogers and Brees have done all season.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfo...QB/standard/ytd

Freeman > Ryan

Blount > Turner

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Kyle Williams should have made it.

True, but it's kind of hard to fault Pro Bowl voters for snubbing a lineman on the worst run defense in the NFL.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Kyle Williams should have made it.

This one might be the worst in my opinion. How the other players got in ahead of him is rediculous. Not even just stat wise, but the guy controlled games at times. His effect on games was obvious when you watched him. I hope one of the guys voted in doesn't go and Kyle gets brought in. He deserves to be there.

 

[jetmonkey]

Brent Grimes over DeAngelo Hall

As a Skins fan, Hall is terrible. They probably shouldn't have sent anyone.

 

[Clorox]

Lots of good names here. I personally think Mike Wallace is underappreciated, but that will change next year.

 

[thatguy]

Champ Bailey?

Agreed.

 

[thatguy]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Um, no.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Kyle Williams, Tamba Hali, Trent Cole, Aaron Rodgers, Antoine Winfield, Kareem McKenzie . . . I don't remember a year with worse Pro Bowl voting than this.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Maurkice Pouncey is going to be a good player for a long time, but there's no way in the world he should have made the Pro Bowl this season over Matt Birk (or Jeff Saturday or Brad Meester or Dan Koppen or . . . it's a pretty long list that deserved it over Pouncey this season, IMO).

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

MJD had a fine season, but I would have given Peyton Hillis the nod over him. And Jamaal Charles should be starting.

 

[Bri]

The top of page 1 with Lions and Chiefs and Raiders fans....welcome to winning and competing guys, it's so cool to watch the fans attitudes change.

Cassell better than Rivers is laughable, but it's so cool that a Chiefs fan would say that.

BTW "no one" at FBGs ever votes for these things

 

[Bri]

Maurkice Pouncey is going to be a good player for a long time, but there's no way in the world he should have made the Pro Bowl this season over Matt Birk (or Jeff Saturday or Brad Meester or Dan Koppen or . . . it's a pretty long list that deserved it over Pouncey this season, IMO).

Yeah but isn't it fascinating how the Steelers always have an awesome C? What is it 30-40 years? 2-3 HOFers?

 

[Bri]

First year in 5? a Titans T didn't make it?

McCourty from NE...not a fan of that pick on there. Impressive rook and all, but there's been better CBs.

I think it was Ohara that got a slew of votes once he got hurt. I don't think he's played well this year.

Osi not on there is ridiculous. He is having a best ever type year if you want to talk about a guy being disruptive. His sacks are probably like 10 and that's all anyone looks at. I'd bet he has just as many forced fumbles and maybe that many tipped passes too. He has been a game changer so much so teams are just running away from him (the ultimate DE compliment) to avoid him and....grr that one bugs me.

I want to complain about Lewis but old timers do get votes in these things.

Kudos to "nobody" Marc Mariani on making it. Hope he gets a chance to play WR next year.

 

[delusional]

Trent Cole...i never seen a player get snubbed so much. He don't even get respect on the field from refs even.

Shady McCoy is another one...1500+ total yards, 5.2 ypc, 200+ carries...thats decent in a reid offense...78 receptions, 9 TDs too

 

[super sleeper]

I would have liked to see Hakeem Nicks make it over Desean Jackson. As good as Jackson is, alot of his contributions are on kick returns. He has disappeared in several games this season.

 

[Quez]

I would have liked to see Hakeem Nicks make it over Desean Jackson. As good as Jackson is, alot of his contributions are on kick returns. He has disappeared in several games this season.

Mike Williams has been more consistent than both of those guys.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I would have liked to see Hakeem Nicks make it over Desean Jackson. As good as Jackson is, alot of his contributions are on kick returns. He has disappeared in several games this season.

Mike Williams has been more consistent than both of those guys.

I don't think I'd go that far. Williams' 10 TDs are a huge plus in his favor, but he is only 12th among NFC WRs in receiving yards, has only one 100-yard game, and has had under 60 receiving yards in eight of his 15 games this year. Nicks and Jackson are both far more deserving. Nicks probably would have made it, had he not gotten hurt and missed a few weeks.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

MJD had a fine season, but I would have given Peyton Hillis the nod over him. And Jamaal Charles should be starting.

I can't argue with MJD over Hillis, but a big reason for Hillis' emergence was the play of Eric Steinbach. He definitely should have gotten in over Mankins. Mankins is awesome but he should be held accountable for voluntarily holding out the first 8 games.

 

[5Rings]

LT Donald Penn deserves the nod over any of the Pro Bowl NFC tackles IMHOI would've put in Rodgers over Ryan, McCoy over S. Jackson, definitely Vernon Davis over Tony Gonzalez, and Barry Cofield and Sedrick Ellis over Smith and Ratliff.

nice list. ratliff has no business in hawaii....and gonzo and sjax were reputation selections.

 

[nlgb1]

Brent Grimes over DeAngelo Hall

there are too many falcons on the team as it is

 

[hauser42]

Chad clifton is the biggest joke on either team. He almost lost his job earlier this season, and now is a Pro Bowler??

Personally i have not watched this game for almost 15 years. Most of the players dont go, how they get there is a joke, and they have rules in play so that it is a offensive game. Worse than watching a week 4 preseason game.

 

[bulger2holt]

LT Donald Penn deserves the nod over any of the Pro Bowl NFC tackles IMHOI would've put in Rodgers over Ryan, McCoy over S. Jackson, definitely Vernon Davis over Tony Gonzalez, and Barry Cofield and Sedrick Ellis over Smith and Ratliff.

nice list. ratliff has no business in hawaii....and gonzo and sjax were reputation selections.

Put SJax behind an o-line that can run block, and this wouldn't even be a discussion. The dude is a monster.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Tony Gonzalez should not be there. Cooley, Winslow, Pettigrew, Davis. Take your pick. All were more impressive.

 

[Bri]

Osi not on there is ridiculous. He is having a best ever type year if you want to talk about a guy being disruptive. His sacks are probably like 10 and that's all anyone looks at. I'd bet he has just as many forced fumbles and maybe that many tipped passes too. He has been a game changer so much so teams are just running away from him (the ultimate DE compliment) to avoid him and....grr that one bugs me.

Osi two sacks and two forced fumbles today. He's gotta get in as an alternate.

 

[Choke]

RT Flozell Adams.

 

[krsone21]

Chad Greenway should have easily been selected over Lance Briggs.Greenway had 136 tackles, 1 sack and 1 forced fumble.Briggs had 80 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 FF, and 2 INT.

This

 

[Kenny Powers]

Mike Wallace over Brandon Lloyd or Dwayne Bowe

Wallace 57 1152 9td'sBowe 67 1094 15td'slloyd 72 1375 10td's Bowe and LLoyd are both better statistically.

Agreed. There were snubs, but Lloyd and Bowe were HIGHLY deserving.

Agree too. I might agree with Wallace over Reggie Wayne though.

As a Steeler homer, I dont think Wallace got snubbed, but I think he had deserving stats - as did the 4 guys who actually got in....Funny thing is, the 1 guy who made it that Wallace has more TDs and Yards than is Andre Johnson, and no one even brought Dre up. I think he made it on reputation. He did miss 3 games, but since when does pro bowl voting really factor in per game numbers?!? Wallace had 40 more yds and 2 more TDs than AJ, but I think you also have to give Wallace credit for being 2nd in the NFL in YPR behind only DeSean Jackson, who had less catches, yards, and TDs than Wallace but did make the pro bowl.