Pryor could be pickup of the year....... (1 Viewer)

[grouse]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

 

[Bobby Guano]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

I saw a little of his game vs the Colts and was impressed........you talked me into it, I'm picking him up.

 

[Judge Smails]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

Excellent posting. I shied a bit because I already own one Raider (McFadden), but he could be that next big running QB. High upside guys should never be discounted.

 

[ponchsox]

He could be very good in a QBBC if your starter is someone like Wilson or Eli. Tasty schedule.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

Very well put.

As a QB, his running ability is at least on par with Kaep, Vick, RG3. Unlike Tebow, his passing ability has actually improved.

He should be rostered in every league, imo. Top running QBs consistently put up decent-outstanding fantasy games.

Upside-to-cost ratio is excellent.

 

[ponchsox]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

Very well put.

As a QB, his running ability is at least on par with Kaep, Vick, RG3. Unlike Tebow, his passing ability has actually improved.

He should be rostered in every league, imo. Top running QBs consistently put up decent-outstanding fantasy games.

Upside-to-cost ratio is excellent.

He should be 100% owned in leagues that reward 4 points for a passing TD, 6 for rushing. In 6 point leagues it's more debatable.

 

[LawFitz]

In start 2 QB leagues with 4 pt pass TDs, he is already. Or at least one of, along with Anquan and maybe a couple TEs. These are the types of value plays that win leagues when combined with non-busty early rounders.

 

[Michael Brown]

Whether you believe in Pryor and think he can ascend into QB1 territory or you don't, the relative cost of taking the gamble on Pryor is for the most part, incredibly cheap and potentially massively rewarding. If you're like me and drafted him with your last pick, or you grabbed him on waivers etc., I fail to see why anyone would take issue with rostering him at this point, or even consider playing him depending on the match ups.

Haters will always hate, but at least come to the table with some data and real observations. You don't like his mechanics, fine, say it, explain it. You don't like his one-read and takeoff style, fine, say it. But coming in here and saying 'oh, the Raiders suck and so will Pryor' kinda thing is beyond lame, it's lazy and a waste of everyone's time.

Did you watch Pryor play last week? I did. And man was he impressive. Did his mistakes cost his team the game? You bet. But I also know that Raiders team never comes within a sniff of winning it, if it wasn't for Pryor's overall excellent display and wide array of talent. Yes, wide array of talent. He does not get nearly enough credit for his arm or his accuracy. If all you do is look at the boxscore and think he's the next Tim Tebow, quite frankly, you didn't watch him play. Tebow can only wish he had the passing ability of Pryor.

But set aside what he's doing on the field for a moment. Set aside the 2 pro starts Pryor now has under his belt and the two 20+ fantasy point days to go along with it. Set that aside and listen to Pryor talk about the Raiders, his role as a leader, his hunger to win, his incredibly mature and honest self-evaluation of his mistakes, and most of all, of his burning desire to soak up knowledge and study and learn like the best in the game do. And not just say it, but do it, by putting in the time. Pryor is doing all of that. Not just words for him. He's living it. Cam Newton could learn a thing or two from Pryor already.

Maybe defenses will figure him out, maybe Pryor's running will get him killed, maybe Pryor will be drop-fodder within weeks. All certainly possible. But how anyone in the fantasy community can so quickly cast aside or turn a blind eye to this kid and ignore his massive fantasy upside, is absolute negligence at best or pure stupidity at worst. Yes, the Raiders stink. But Pryor, most definitely does not.

(excellent, actually...particularly the bolded)

 

[bakes]

Short bench with QB slots filled by RG3, Bradford, and Dalton. 3/pass, 6/rush TD. Worth dropping any of them for Pryor?

 

[Eights]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

 

[ponchsox]

Put it this way, if he puts up a 250/1 passing and 80/2 rushing stat line against Jax, he will cost you a #1 waiver priority or a big FAB to get him.

People may bash him as an NFL QB, but he has the potential to be a better fantasy version of Tim Tebow which would be gold for teams who are stacked at RB/WR and waited on a QB.

 

[cstu]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Short bench with QB slots filled by RG3, Bradford, and Dalton. 3/pass, 6/rush TD. Worth dropping any of them for Pryor?

I am not sure I see the upside with Dalton, He is a safer QB but what you see is pretty much what you get with him. Are his numbers ever going to cause you to bench RGIII or Bradford?

 

[Hawk Fan]

Short bench with QB slots filled by RG3, Bradford, and Dalton. 3/pass, 6/rush TD. Worth dropping any of them for Pryor?

I would love to add him but would have to drop one of Vick (nope), Bradford, or Schaub (though he's a little less appealing in 6 pt/passing TD league). To go a little Assistant Coach here, I'd drop Bradford for him even though I am high on Bradford this year (though I won't in my league).

 

[Breesisdaman]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

Long term its probably Manuel but Pryor could be a very quick study from the sounds of it.

 

[Bob Barker]

Pryor is only 24 and is apparently a very hard worker and has already greatly improved his passing since coming into the league. He still may not be very good but if he keeps working at it and keeps improving he should be able to become at least a decent passer. With his size and speed his running ability is already one of the best if not the best of all the running QBs in the NFL. The sky is the limit for this kid fantasy wise. I think he has a higher ceiling than Manual but he also has the risk he never develops as a passer and doesnt make it as an NFL QB

 

[JohnnyUtah007]

Should I start Pryor over Luck this week? 6 point per passing TD league. Some "experts" swearing the Dolphins D is solid and Luck won't have a great week. I'm only considering because the Raiders have the lowly Jags in Oakland.

 

[Eights]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

I have been here a few years and I know your posts and respect your opinion on this. I was leaning the same way myself which is why I grabbed him over Pryor, I'm in a keep 3 keeper league, it's going to be tough to only keep 3 next year. Cheers and thanks!

 

[Chaka]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

I see it the other way. I think that, along with Kaepernick, Pryor may be the best running QB in the league* and I don't think Manuel could even come close to either of those guys. I also don't see why everyone assumes Manuel will be a better passer, they both are 66% on the season so let's see how that plays out.

*RGIII is probably the most athletically gifted but after two ACLs I don't see his upside as a runner. Cam is certainly the best goal line threat but in the open field I don't think he comes close to Pryor and Kaep.

 

[LOCO]

I remember Cam had a good first game and passed on him thinking: rookie, will be easily defense against, overrated etc. Well he finished w crazy stats. Now I am not saying Pryor is the next Cam but why not take a chance. Worst case he is better Tebow. Well I remember Tebow having some pretty good freaking fanasty stats.

 

[cstu]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

I see it the other way. I think that, along with Kaepernick, Pryor may be the best running QB in the league* and I don't think Manuel could even come close to either of those guys. I also don't see why everyone assumes Manuel will be a better passer, they both are 66% on the season so let's see how that plays out.*RGIII is probably the most athletically gifted but after two ACLs I don't see his upside as a runner. Cam is certainly the best goal line threat but in the open field I don't think he comes close to Pryor and Kaep.

Manuel looked really, really good to me for a rookie in his first game. It's taken Pryor 3 years to get to this point throwing the ball.

In terms of running the ball Pryor is one of the best, if not the best at the moment.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Short bench with QB slots filled by RG3, Bradford, and Dalton. 3/pass, 6/rush TD. Worth dropping any of them for Pryor?

Of course drop Bradford

 

[Chaka]

I'm sitting on the fence right now between Pryor and EJ Manuel, I actually picked up Manuel in a 4pt passing 6 pt rushing TD league. I'm scouring all threads and articles to see which QB is the better answer long term but I'm really not finding much discussion on this, would love to hear some feed back and thoughts.

I believe Pryor's ability to run the ball makes him more valuable however Manuel can also run although we did not get to see this in his first start and I believe he is the better passer of the two.

It's not close IMO - Manuel.

I see it the other way. I think that, along with Kaepernick, Pryor may be the best running QB in the league* and I don't think Manuel could even come close to either of those guys. I also don't see why everyone assumes Manuel will be a better passer, they both are 66% on the season so let's see how that plays out.*RGIII is probably the most athletically gifted but after two ACLs I don't see his upside as a runner. Cam is certainly the best goal line threat but in the open field I don't think he comes close to Pryor and Kaep.

Manuel looked really, really good to me for a rookie in his first game. It's taken Pryor 3 years to get to this point throwing the ball.

In terms of running the ball Pryor is one of the best, if not the best at the moment.

Pryor looked really, really good too. But I don't see how the bolded makes a lick of difference for this season. They looked about the same throwing the ball and Pryor is the better runner. Manuel might have the better career, he might be better this season, while I prefer Pryor for his sheer athleticism (I would personally take him six days/week and twice on Sunday) I don't see it as some sort of slam dunk in favor of one or the other.

 

[Chaka]

Short bench with QB slots filled by RG3, Bradford, and Dalton. 3/pass, 6/rush TD. Worth dropping any of them for Pryor?

Of course drop Bradford

I have him and Bradford on my team (super flex) and am starting Pryor, and Matt Ryan, over Bradford this week but I wouldn't necessarily drop Bradford for him just yet. Bradford is a much more polished passer and has the best supporting cast of his career, I would wait and see on him at this point in the season.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I'd hate to drop Bradford, but if push came to shove in a short bench league, I'd dump Bradford to pick up Pryor. This kid is no bubble headed dimwit athletic headcase that some people try to compare to Vince Young. Kid's got heart, works his ### off, passionate about the game and improving. He's come a long way. I was among the doubting thomases, openly declaring he'd never amount to anything. I guess I had my own embedded "hate" of young developing Raider QBs. We have had a string of bad luck and embarrassments thru the years. The last first round pick the Raiders had was another typical embarassment, Rolando McClain. He was a blue chip LB who was supposed to be the next Patrick Willis. But all he did was come into Oakland with his loser ghetto style and no heart or will to improve.

People still don't know about this kid, but he's becoming a fan favorite. It's a crime that Pryor wasn't developed last season when the season was mathematically over. He's still raw, and the offense is learning to adapt to his style of play. The O-linemen have to block for up to 10 seconds to accomdate his scrambling and the receivers need to break off routes to put themselves in position to make a play. Cardio conditioning is a must, but the Pryor effect wears down and gasses defenses. This kid isn't going away anytime soon. I'll take Terrelle Pryor over your EJ Manual 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

 

[McGarnicle]

Well I guess I'm all in, just dropped $23 for him and starting him over Romo in a 2QB league (other QB is Peyton). The matchup differential between Romo and Pryor is too great, factoring in Pryor's rushing yards, home vs. away, and Romo's bruised ribs. Now that I own him I predict he's this year's RG3 and will be the reason I win my league. <-- Kool-Aid.

 

[just_want_2_win]

50 yards on the ground and another 126 in the air today for Mr. Pryor. No TDs throwing or running. Are people holding or already going to move on and look at EJ Manuel?

 

[3quinox]

I would say hold. He played mistake free football and did exactly what the team and situation needed him to do.

 

[Chaka]

Seems like a hold to me but Manuel looked pretty solid today.

 

[McGarnicle]

I ####### hate fantasy football.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

fantasy wise, don't play Pryor when the Raiders are favored, which is not going to be a big issue moving forward. He's better when he's forced into garbage time mode. I'm happy if Pryor continues to throw up fantasy stinkers and wins. But it's apparent the game plan when they get up is to shorten the game and go into snooze fest mode. Pryor isn't yet trusted to go into pinball machine Mike Vick mode. But against better competition, he'll be forced to make plays that feed the statline. Still wouldn't trust him against Denver next week though.

 

[DoubleG]

I'll say this for Pryor - he sure makes his non-RB teammates pretty FF useless. Sure makes it easy not to think about starting any Raider receivers. Pryor might have some value as bye-week fill in, but good Lord, you couldn't start a WR on that team unless you had 3 WRs on a bye and one on IR. 3-42, 3-32, 2-12 and 2-10. If you add all 4, that's still only 10-94. :X

 

[cstu]

I ####### hate fantasy football.

You were warned.