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QB Aaron Rodgers, Free Agent (5 Viewers)

sho nuff said:
CletiusMaximus said:
Faust said:
Report: Packers are “disgusted with” Aaron Rodgers, they’re “done with him”
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I listened to the entire 51 minute podcast earlier today so you don’t have to. I’m a big fan of McGinn but would warn anyone reading a summary of his comments to take it with a massive grain of salt. He’s clearly obsessed and has a major axe to grind with Rodgers. He talks about a source for this but uses some cagey words and admits it’s also just his gut feeling. He goes through every single season ending game and details how poorly Rodgers played (other than the superbowl win which he says was Rodgers best game and one of the best ever superbowl QB performances.) Just as an example, he derisIvely mocks the suggestion that Rodgers is a first ballot HoF player. He also says if Rodgers comes back and collects the $60m first day cash he would still be the backup to Love this season. Bob is 70 years old, long retired and hasn’t been a credentialed beat reporter for probably at least a decade.
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McGinn used to be great. He had a decent network of scouts where he got most of his information. Problem is, I think most have moved on and he doesn't have the sources he once did. While he has always been pretty critical...lately it almost seems as if he is just angry and yeah has an axe to grind with Rodgers from very early on. Not sure the last time he got something right.
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All one has to read when considering the validity of McGinn's take is that he says that even if Rodgers comes back, he will be the backup to Jordan Love.
 
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
 
osubuckeyeman said:
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
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Rodgers was MVP 2 times since Love was drafted.
 
Terpman22 said:
osubuckeyeman said:
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
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Rodgers was MVP 2 times since Love was drafted.
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I think he's referring to the wasting of Love's rookie contract. They did the same thing with Dillon, Jones has had 2 contract extensions since they drafted Dillon. Now if Rogers leaves, the Packers have one year of Love before needing to extend him and really didn't get much of the benefit of having quality QB play on a rookie contract. Which admittedly might not have happened anyway, but that's usually what a team is hoping for when they draft a QB in the first.
 
Willy said:
Terpman22 said:
osubuckeyeman said:
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
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Rodgers was MVP 2 times since Love was drafted.
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I think he's referring to the wasting of Love's rookie contract. They did the same thing with Dillon, Jones has had 2 contract extensions since they drafted Dillon. Now if Rogers leaves, the Packers have one year of Love before needing to extend him and really didn't get much of the benefit of having quality QB play on a rookie contract. Which admittedly might not have happened anyway, but that's usually what a team is hoping for when they draft a QB in the first.
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Oh fair enough, misread that. Yeah GB operates a little differently than other teams, maybe due to it being publicly owned? I dunno, but with that said NOW is the time you must make the move or you're gonna be stuck w ZERO QBs.
 
Willy said:
I think he's referring to the wasting of Love's rookie contract. They did the same thing with Dillon, Jones has had 2 contract extensions since they drafted Dillon. Now if Rogers leaves, the Packers have one year of Love before needing to extend him and really didn't get much of the benefit of having quality QB play on a rookie contract. Which admittedly might not have happened anyway, but that's usually what a team is hoping for when they draft a QB in the first.
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Yeah the whole point of rookie contracts is getting cheap starters so you can afford other players. GB seems to love overlapping players, even going back to Favre/Rodgers.
 
Terpman22 said:
osubuckeyeman said:
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
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Rodgers was MVP 2 times since Love was drafted.
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A first-round pick to sit? One year maybe and that is questionable. The point is you decided to move on when you made the pick. There is no way I can be convinced they drafted Love to sit him. They wanted to groom Love one season and Rodger's won the MVP and took them to the NFC championship and they felt like they might have been a bit quick on sending Rodgers packing. It's too late at that point. Trade him then and get more value for him. I would not trade for Rodgers myself. He is too expensive. He is a headache to deal with. He is getting old. You are going to have to replace him and rebuild soon enough. A big pass for me. I suppose if you have a lame-duck QB and you think you have a super bowl team just missing only the QB then maybe but not for me. I do not see a team in that situation that can afford him. The Jets think they are that type of team. I do not feel that way but you never know. They basically MOVED up in the first round to groom Love for another team if they do not move on from Rodgers. It's a cluster-buster of a situation and Love is ready for the Packers or another team.

Love has handled this very well and kudos to him but his agent needed to get in the Packer's ear last season. You are not doing your client service at all in today's NFL if you permit your client to sit out the whole length of his rookie contract. F- for the agent and if the agency is the same for both Love and Rodgers then Love needs new representation. They can not afford to tag Love and have Rodger's under contract. This is going to come to a head for Rodgers or Love. It would not even be a question for me. Love would be taking over but I would have already moved on. I'm rooting for a full meltdown out of the darkness.
 
Terpman22 said:
osubuckeyeman said:
It's time to move on. It was time when they drafted Love. You make a move like that you live with it good or bad but instead they milked the whole situation and doubled down on their mistake and here we are. How many years can Rodgers give? Who is going to take on the contract and what kind of trade value can you get the bottom line it's time to move on.
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Rodgers was MVP 2 times since Love was drafted.
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Right, I mean the Packers were 26-6 with Rodgers starting in 20-21.

Sticking with Rodgers wasn't a mistake. The only mistake may have been drafting Love in the first place. I've never understood the idea of maximizing trade value, when your team is the #1 seed in your conference. Probably a better than 50-50 shot, if GB goes with Love in 2020, Matt LaFluer is an OC somewhere right now, and GB has a new HC.
 
Yeah, best I can tell is that they wasted a first-round pick on a guy that they absolutely didn't need.

One thing about that, though. Is it possible that Rodgers has been a headcase for a long time? Like, threatening behind closed doors to retire but the team keeps it on the down low? How much power did he want in the organization?

All these things are likely to remain unknown until he leaves and/or retires. We'll never be in the front office's shoes when they decided to draft Love, so we can't be privy to all the relevant information.

So I pause when assigning blame here to either party. Because we just don't know.
 
Rogers to Commanders is the most logical spot, Or Indy.
I wouldnb't go to SF because Shanny jr can't win a damn meaningful game never has never will.
 
I realize this might have been mentioned earlier, but don't you think the Drafting of J Love in the 1st Round was a point to Rodgers - It's time to step up or step away?
And he Stepped up in MVP way! Now, that could have been an expensive lesson and they neglected to compensate for the move by trading Love the next year for value.

Today, I agree, move on from Headcase Diva Rodgers. Discover what Love can actually do with a real off season and coaching to his strengths. Then decide.
 
Buckna said:
Imagine Green Bay with all that draft capital from Denver had they traded Rodgers last year instead of Denver ending up with second choice Wilson? They had Love already and could have put some very nice pieces around him with those picks.
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With 20/20 hindsight, yes - 100% should have traded a year ago. But the GM doesn't have the luxury of foresight. The Packers went 8-9 with Rodgers. If they'd traded away a 4 time MVP coming off two consecutive MVP seasons and finished with the same 8-9 record under Jordan Love? Gutekunst would be mocked, ridiculed, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. There's a cliche I believe attributed to former Packers GM Ted Thompson or maybe Ron Wolf - its better to trade a guy a year too early than a year too late. It sounds good and I think I agree, but fans will never accept it.
 

ESPN's Xuan Thai reports Aaron Rodgers has returned from his "darkness retreat".​

Scott Berman, the owner of Sky Cave Retreats in southern Oregon, reported to Thai that Rodgers left the facilities on Wednesday. Ordinarily, this would be non-news, but Rodgers is on record saying he hopes to have a decision on his playing future soon after the conclusion of his retreat. With the Packers reportedly ready to move on from Rodgers, and several teams interested in acquiring him, it seems unlikely Rodgers will be playing in Green Bay in 2023. However, before any trades can be entertained, Rodgers first needs to confirm his intent to play next season. The 39-year-old quarterback is entertained retirement over the last several offseasons, but it wouldn't surprise anybody if he opts to return for another run.
SOURCE: ESPN
Feb 23, 2023, 9:57 AM ET
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Faust said:

ESPN's Xuan Thai reports Aaron Rodgers has returned from his "darkness retreat".​

Scott Berman, the owner of Sky Cave Retreats in southern Oregon, reported to Thai that Rodgers left the facilities on Wednesday. Ordinarily, this would be non-news, but Rodgers is on record saying he hopes to have a decision on his playing future soon after the conclusion of his retreat. With the Packers reportedly ready to move on from Rodgers, and several teams interested in acquiring him, it seems unlikely Rodgers will be playing in Green Bay in 2023. However, before any trades can be entertained, Rodgers first needs to confirm his intent to play next season. The 39-year-old quarterback is entertained retirement over the last several offseasons, but it wouldn't surprise anybody if he opts to return for another run.
SOURCE: ESPN
Feb 23, 2023, 9:57 AM ET
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Kids these days don't commit to darkness retreats like they used to. 4 days huh....
 
massraider said:
Raise your hand if you don't care about this blackout retreat, don't think it's nearly as crazy or interesting or funny as some people do, and are a bit concerned by how people are worked up about it.
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It did interest me and to the point, and I'm sure a lot of people did this, I got to reading and watching about it. Not crazy at all but when a famous multiple MVP QB is taking psychedelic fueled trips to Peru and sitting in a dark hut for a few days it's off the norm. Especially when it seems he's putting off the notion when he comes out of his darkness he'll be making a decision. Seems almost white smokeish.

Rodgers attitude does rub me the wrong way but frankly I'm a little envious he has the means to take these journey's to explore and open up his mind.
 
massraider said:
Raise your hand if you don't care about this blackout retreat, don't think it's nearly as crazy or interesting or funny as some people do, and are a bit concerned by how people are worked up about it.
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After reading what it was like, it made me think he decided on the Jets and just wanted to get used to living in a NYC apartment.

The room in which Aaron Rodgers spent his time is a partially underground, Hobbit-like structure with 300 square feet of space, devoid of light, with a queen bed, a bathroom and a meditation-like mat on the floor
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menobrown said:
It did interest me and to the point, and I'm sure a lot of people did this, I got to reading and watching about it. Not crazy at all but when a famous multiple MVP QB is taking psychedelic fueled trips to Peru and sitting in a dark hut for a few days it's off the norm.
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You're absolutely right of course, maybe I was surprised how many viewed it negatively. That's definitely tied into how punch-able Aaron Rodgers is.
 
Dr. Octopus said:
massraider said:
Raise your hand if you don't care about this blackout retreat, don't think it's nearly as crazy or interesting or funny as some people do, and are a bit concerned by how people are worked up about it.
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After reading what it was like, it made me think he decided on the Jets and just wanted to get used to living in a NYC apartment.

The room in which Aaron Rodgers spent his time is a partially underground, Hobbit-like structure with 300 square feet of space, devoid of light, with a queen bed, a bathroom and a meditation-like mat on the floor
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LOOK AT ME, I HAVE ROOM FOR A YOGA MAT
 
menobrown said:
massraider said:
Raise your hand if you don't care about this blackout retreat, don't think it's nearly as crazy or interesting or funny as some people do, and are a bit concerned by how people are worked up about it.
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It did interest me and to the point, and I'm sure a lot of people did this, I got to reading and watching about it. Not crazy at all but when a famous multiple MVP QB is taking psychedelic fueled trips to Peru and sitting in a dark hut for a few days it's off the norm. Especially when it seems he's putting off the notion when he comes out of his darkness he'll be making a decision. Seems almost white smokeish.

Rodgers attitude does rub me the wrong way but frankly I'm a little envious he has the means to take these journey's to explore and open up his mind.
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I learned a long time ago, like many others, that multi millionaires behavior is often unusual. Nothing to see here and frankly the retreat sounds ideal (as I look at my 5 kids)
 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
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NFL combine: Jets, Raiders, Packers stuck in holding pattern as league awaits Aaron Rodgers' decision
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Them and me both! I’m waiting to know before offering the Love owner some draft picks.

Cmon Aaron, tick tock, pal!
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For what its worth, highly regarded Packers beat writer Tom Silverstein has more or less gone all-in on his expectation that Love will start for the Packers next season. But of course one never knows for certain with this ####-show.

Silverstein: There's no mistaking it, the Packers are trying to move on from Aaron Rodgers
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Brunell4MVP said:
Am I the only person that didn't realize Arron Rodgers was a ZERO star recruit out of HS? Just saw that he played for Butte College before going to Cal.
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The only reason I knew that is he's been saying "Butte Community College" in the network position announcement vids for years now.
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Early on in his career I had a Butte Community College Tshirt I had ordered after he was drafted.
 
CletiusMaximus said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Faust said:
NFL combine: Jets, Raiders, Packers stuck in holding pattern as league awaits Aaron Rodgers' decision
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Them and me both! I’m waiting to know before offering the Love owner some draft picks.

Cmon Aaron, tick tock, pal!
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For what its worth, highly regarded Packers beat writer Tom Silverstein has more or less gone all-in on his expectation that Love will start for the Packers next season. But of course one never knows for certain with this ####-show.

Silverstein: There's no mistaking it, the Packers are trying to move on from Aaron Rodgers
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Based on the most recent interview, the beat writer (Zach Jacobson) now says he believes it will be a return to the packers or retirement.


And since I agree with those who’ve said he won’t walk away from 50 million dollars (because who would) I’m hesitant to make an offer.

Also since the owner wants Love as the starter price for him, it really doesn’t cost me anything to wait & see.
 

The Packers dead money charge would jump from $40 million this year to $60 million if they move on from QB Aaron Rodgers next offseason.​

The Packers would need to restructure Rodgers if he returns. Green Bay's contract with Rodgers was made to be trade friendly, giving them an option clause that can be exercised before the start of the year. With Jordan Love in the final year of his rookie deal and a massive 2024 dead cap charge, a Rodgers trade this offseason is the most likely outcome. Rodgers returning in 2023 may force the Packers to trade Love.
SOURCE: Sports Illustrated
Mar 2, 2023 at 10:10 AM ET
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
And since I agree with those who’ve said he won’t walk away from 50 million dollars (because who would)
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Yeah he's not retiring and leaving that money on the table - and although it's 100% just speculation/opinion on my end, I don't see an ego-maniac like Rodgers wanting to go into the Hall of Fame in the same class as Tom Brady. It would be considered "Brady's class".
 
Dr. Octopus said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
And since I agree with those who’ve said he won’t walk away from 50 million dollars (because who would)
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Yeah he's not retiring and leaving that money on the table - and although it's 100% just speculation/opinion on my end, I don't see an ego-maniac like Rodgers wanting to go into the Hall of Fame in the same class as Tom Brady. It would be considered "Brady's class".
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50 million not to play second banana makes sense.
 
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