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QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (4 Viewers)

Think that broncos defense is going to feast on him today. Tough environment to play in and a tough defense to play against. This will be Rosgers' first really bad game in a long time and the Packers' first loss of the season. Could be an ugly one.
I'm a Broncos fan and I'm not on board with this.

I believe Rodgers has a bad game for Aaron Rodgers, which is still a good game. I believe the Broncos disrupt, antagonize and push the pace, but Rodgers is so good at sensing the rush - moving in the pocket with as little effort and the most effectiveness of any QB I've ever seen. His release is quick and he can throw to anywhere on the field from anywhere on the field.

I can see the Broncos winning, but I struggle to see Rodgers with a 'really bad game' unless he gets injured.
Someone was very right and someone was very wrong here.

Rodgers was very bad last night but I think that was in part to how ferocious that Denver D is unbelievable how fast and dominate they are. I hope people know better than to think Rodgers is not capable of turning it on at any point.
Cris Collinsworth said it best last night ... any lesser QB would have been sacked 10 times against that defense last night. I don't think there's team in the league that could have beat the Broncos.

That said, GB definitely needs to implement some Patriots scheme with the rubs and picks... MMQB described it the best, go read this week's article.
I don't see what Benoit is describing at all. In the handful of GB games I have watched this season, they are running rubs and picks to the trips side more often than not.

 
Regardless of the Broncos last night, something's just not right with the Packer's offense lately. I don't know if it's the lack of Jordy or inconsistent run game or McCarthy not calling the plays, but they've struggled since Week 3.

 
Regardless of the Broncos last night, something's just not right with the Packer's offense lately. I don't know if it's the lack of Jordy or inconsistent run game or McCarthy not calling the plays, but they've struggled since Week 3.
They're really kind of boring to watch on offense.
 
Regardless of the Broncos last night, something's just not right with the Packer's offense lately. I don't know if it's the lack of Jordy or inconsistent run game or McCarthy not calling the plays, but they've struggled since Week 3.
They're really kind of boring to watch on offense.
No one getting open last night except Cobb. And with him, it looked like the DBs were fine with letting him get "open" then immediately crushed him and held to a minimal gain. McCarthy will have to scheme some moving forward. Carolina is no Denver, but they have some pop on defense also.

 
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Regardless of the Broncos last night, something's just not right with the Packer's offense lately. I don't know if it's the lack of Jordy or inconsistent run game or McCarthy not calling the plays, but they've struggled since Week 3.
Week 3? The Bears kept them in check most of week 1. The Bears...Detroit's only win. Green Bay put up fewer points against the Bears than the Lions did. Think about that for a minute.

No, the Packers offense has struggled most of the season.

 
As a Rodgers/Cobb stack owner, I have paid close attention.....It seems like every single game Rodgers has missed Cobb on an easy TD, most of which were going to be long ones like the one he threw over his head last night after the PI.

 
As Michael Irvin pointed out on NFLN's wrap-up show... GB receivers could not get open, and Aaron Rogers noticed (said it in his presser).

A "lesser" QB would have been sacked 10 times? Yes, if they were planning to hang on to the ball as long as Rogers tried to last night.

That looked like a bad game plan with a receiving corps that was tremendously over-matched last night. I expected a lot more quick routes to get the ball out of his hands fast.

Also, sign me up for the Randall Cobb = Alvin Harper theory. Without Jordy drawing coverage, he is looking very ordinary.

 
Cobb was never great. Just in a great situation. Once the situation changed he has been exposed as an average slot receiver. There are 40 players in the league like Cobb.

 
It all started with the loss of Jordy. Think about how much more condensed the field is for the defense when they don't have to worry about Jordy taking the top off. Next is Lacy, who is doing nothing to help relieve pressure. He keeps running east to west like he's 50 lbs lighter, essentially doing the defense's work for them. Cobb is the only "scary" piece left on that offense and between the bum shoulder/extra attention he's not very scary at all. The schedule does open up some however but this offense is much less potent then what we're used to.

 
I heard a stat on the radio today that Aaron Rodgers is 0-5 in his last 5 games vs top-five defenses.

Something like 5 TD - 7 int during that span.

 
SameSongNDance said:
It all started with the loss of Jordy. Think about how much more condensed the field is for the defense when they don't have to worry about Jordy taking the top off. Next is Lacy, who is doing nothing to help relieve pressure. He keeps running east to west like he's 50 lbs lighter, essentially doing the defense's work for them. Cobb is the only "scary" piece left on that offense and between the bum shoulder/extra attention he's not very scary at all. The schedule does open up some however but this offense is much less potent then what we're used to.
This pretty much nails it.

They likely would have been okay with a healthy Cobb/Adams and Jones. But Cobb messed up his shoulder. He said weeks ago that it would likely affect him all year. They targeted Adams 8 times in week 1, then started heavily targeting him again in the early going of week 2 before he sprained his ankle.

Essentially, Rodgers has had to work without 2 of his top 3 WRs for most of the season, and the one that has played has been far less than 100%. Its unfortunate that Adams couldn't get his feet wet again against a team other than the Broncos. I'm sure some of the timing etc has been impacted by missing the last month. Last night was not a good chance to get back in a groove with Rodgers.

Lacy just hasn't been very good this year. I know he's had a bad ankle, but I think his weight is very likely an issue this year as well. I bet he shows up next year 20lbs lighter, and we'll hear all about a leaner meaner Eddie Lacy.

 
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
Throwing to who?

Did people not notice that there is no where to go with the ball really? Add that to a couple drops and your looking at an offense stuck in the mud.

The difference is Brady doesn't win that game off a bye Bellichek wins that game. I have had it with the new play calling at this point.

 
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
Throwing to who?

Did people not notice that there is no where to go with the ball really? Add that to a couple drops and your looking at an offense stuck in the mud.

The difference is Brady doesn't win that game off a bye Bellichek wins that game. I have had it with the new play calling at this point.
Whom

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.

 
You guys aren't giving the Denver "D" enough credit... That and a rejuvenated offense (read that ball control) shortened the game and Rodgers never got un-tracked.

 
You guys aren't giving the Denver "D" enough credit... That and a rejuvenated offense (read that ball control) shortened the game and Rodgers never got un-tracked.
Agreed. Nobody was going to beat the Broncos last night, with the way the defense played. That was the best defensive game I've ever seen by a Broncos defense in my 30 years of being a fan.

 
You guys aren't giving the Denver "D" enough credit... That and a rejuvenated offense (read that ball control) shortened the game and Rodgers never got un-tracked.
Agreed. Nobody was going to beat the Broncos last night, with the way the defense played. That was the best defensive game I've ever seen by a Broncos defense in my 30 years of being a fan.
It was great... but a qb with Rodgers talent should be able to manage more than 77 yards.

 
At Carolina this week. Worth benching for a better option imo. Don't know that I have a better option.
If I can scoop Carr off the waiver wire, I'll seriously consider sitting Rodgers this week.
I have Carr and he sat on my bench putting up 40 points and it cost me a win this week. I am seriously thinking about plugging him in this week vs Pitt. And letting Rodgers take a seat vs another stiff defense. While I think Rodgers will be fine long term. Carr is showing he has turned a major corner and is a legit top 5 QB this season.

 
Todem said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Buck Bradcanon said:
At Carolina this week. Worth benching for a better option imo. Don't know that I have a better option.
If I can scoop Carr off the waiver wire, I'll seriously consider sitting Rodgers this week.
I have Carr and he sat on my bench putting up 40 points and it cost me a win this week. I am seriously thinking about plugging him in this week vs Pitt. And letting Rodgers take a seat vs another stiff defense. While I think Rodgers will be fine long term. Carr is showing he has turned a major corner and is a legit top 5 QB this season.
I think top 10 moving forward is more realistic

 
Looking ahead to his fantasy playoff matchups:

14- home against Dallas

15- at Oaklend

16- at Arizona

All three teams have the ability to put up points, so hopefully he can out up decent numbers. That Arizona matchup could be ugly

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
threw

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
Sorry, but the stats, records, wins vs. losses and eye-witness accounts just don't support your statements about Rodgers. You're basing everything on ONE bad game, which is ridiculous.

Brady is also one of the greatest, for sure, but I don't know if I'm ready to call him THE greatest ever.

 
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Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
Sorry, but the stats, records, wins vs. losses and eye-witness accounts just don't support your statements about Rodgers. You're basing everything on ONE bad game, which is ridiculous.

Brady is also one of the greatest, for sure, but I don't know if I'm ready to call him THE greatest ever.
Stats support brady for greatest ever. and Rodgers isn't the same on the road. I sound like a new england homer when i live in philly and love the rams but facts point to brady easily better than rodgers. Also the fact that this was off a bye and still had one of the worst games I've ever seen. Rodgers is just not good against high rated defenses and it is what it is.

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
Sorry, but the stats, records, wins vs. losses and eye-witness accounts just don't support your statements about Rodgers. You're basing everything on ONE bad game, which is ridiculous.

Brady is also one of the greatest, for sure, but I don't know if I'm ready to call him THE greatest ever.
Stats support brady for greatest ever. and Rodgers isn't the same on the road. I sound like a new england homer when i live in philly and love the rams but facts point to brady easily better than rodgers. Also the fact that this was off a bye and still had one of the worst games I've ever seen. Rodgers is just not good against high rated defenses and it is what it is.
He did look like TB against the Gmen for sure.

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
Sorry, but the stats, records, wins vs. losses and eye-witness accounts just don't support your statements about Rodgers. You're basing everything on ONE bad game, which is ridiculous.

Brady is also one of the greatest, for sure, but I don't know if I'm ready to call him THE greatest ever.
Stats support brady for greatest ever. and Rodgers isn't the same on the road. I sound like a new england homer when i live in philly and love the rams but facts point to brady easily better than rodgers. Also the fact that this was off a bye and still had one of the worst games I've ever seen. Rodgers is just not good against high rated defenses and it is what it is.
Glad to see you based your claims on ONE game. Oh wait..it even comes after a bye week? Well, sound evidence for sure.

 
Should probably go ahead and change the title.
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would probably say off a bye brady wins that game and atleast puts up better numbers. :shrug:
I would say Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowl rings if Bill Bellichek was his coach.
Mike McCarthy's record coming off of a bye. 8-2. Including last night.

Bill Belichick's record coming off of a bye 11-4. (including 2 losses in the last 4 years)

Over reaction central. Wonder how many remember the Patriots and Brady being left for dead in week 4 last year after a blow out loss to the Chiefs. Left them 2-2 to start the season.
Rodgers through for a TOTAL of 77 yards..... i don't think its a over reaction. Even that game brady got his ### beat and BENCHED 4th quarter he still through for 167 and 1td. Rodgers is nowhere near the best qb to ever play. Brady is the GOAT and will go down as the GOAT to ever play the game at his position.
No way! Rodgers is the best!!!

 
Stats support brady for greatest ever. and Rodgers isn't the same on the road. I sound like a new england homer when i live in philly and love the rams but facts point to brady easily better than rodgers. Also the fact that this was off a bye and still had one of the worst games I've ever seen. Rodgers is just not good against high rated defenses and it is what it is.
All-time, yes, Brady is ahead of Rodgers right now, but Rodgers has played the QB position as well as it has ever been played. Even with his struggles lately, he is still on pace for 34 touchdowns and 5 interceptions, which, by his standards, would be a down season, I guess. :lol:

 
My god, can we ever get through one thread that doesn't bring up Brady and the Pats and this is from a Pats fan.
The title of this thread is going to bring out people in support of the dude with 4 rings, who could very well end the year with his second 50 td season. QBR and QB rating are stupid stats. Both are great qbs, the title of this thread isnt so great.

 
My god, can we ever get through one thread that doesn't bring up Brady and the Pats and this is from a Pats fan.
The title of this thread is going to bring out people in support of the dude with 4 rings, who could very well end the year with his second 50 td season. QBR and QB rating are stupid stats. Both are great qbs, the title of this thread isnt so great.
It was written in November of 2014.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Buck Bradcanon said:
At Carolina this week. Worth benching for a better option imo. Don't know that I have a better option.
If I can scoop Carr off the waiver wire, I'll seriously consider sitting Rodgers this week.
You guys are freaking crazy. 300/3 is a lock this week.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Buck Bradcanon said:
At Carolina this week. Worth benching for a better option imo. Don't know that I have a better option.
If I can scoop Carr off the waiver wire, I'll seriously consider sitting Rodgers this week.
You guys are freaking crazy. 300/3 is a lock this week.
Not saying its impossible but he has gone over 300 yards once this year. I'll take the under.

 

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