QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (3 Viewers)

[gruecd]

Look at the heat Beasley, Cousins and Hopkins got for saying they were unvaxed.  The heat on Rodgers for who he is would’ve been much worse.  And it’s not necessarily saying no because it truly is not the public’s business

That's the thing.  I think he's selfish and a bad leader for not getting vaccinated, but I'd respect him a hell of a lot more if he'd just said "no" or "no comment" when asked directly if he was vaccinated.  Instead, the first word out of his mouth was "yeah."  It was a deliberate attempt to deceive, which is what really frosts my ###.

 

[gruecd]

Nah Kyrie is unapologetic in his stance. Rodgers seemed to want to not be bothered. Which is fine too. People will kill him though because of his personality. 

Then say "no comment," or just say that it's a personal matter and you don't wanna get into it.  Don't say "yeah" when asked directly if you're vaxxed.

 

[Mark Football]

Also I'd like to know if he got his flu shot. The flu typically kills around 50,000 Americans anually. I bet he hasn't. Jerk.

 

[Deamon]

Also I'd like to know if he got his flu shot. The flu typically kills around 50,000 Americans anually. I bet he hasn't. Jerk.

Oh god, not this.

 

[Deamon]

Lolz

Carter Donnick

@CDonnick3

Rodgers heard the vaccine could help protect his family and he wanted no part of it

12:54 PM · Nov 3, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Might be the best tweet I've ever seen.

 

[massraider]

Rodgers also said when he initially lied that, "he wouldn't criticize unvaccinated teammates"

Truly awesome

 

[jhib]

I think getting the vaccine for most folks is the right call but we can't force people to eat healthy and exercise even though it would save tens of millions of lives so that should probably reveal my feelings on any kind of forced mandates even though that is exactly what they are doing across the country. 

I've see you post this same kind of argument in the past.  Do you still really not see the societal difference between a contagious disease and personal nutrition in regards to potential mandates? 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I've see you post this same kind of argument in the past.  Do you still really not see the societal difference between a contagious disease and personal nutrition in regards to potential mandates? 

Let's replay the tapes friend-o 

"I think getting the vaccine for most folks is the right call"

-Did I say something wrong?

Just staaaaaaaahp, aim your internal social hate at Rodgers not MOP, wife works in a hospital, can't even pick her up for lunch unless I follow protocol which includes being vaccinated not immunized so why don't you take a big step back buddy, thanks a bunch. We have good exchanges on players, lets not try and paint each other as the enemy. 

FTR: Since i get the data first hand and not thru websites, 50% of the deaths attributed to CV-19 which the hospital receives an automatic $25,000 from the Federal Government for every toe tag(in case you didn't know) but 50%, yes 50% were diabetics and there are some thin diabetics for sure but most of these that filled up the hospital halls were unfortunately out of shape, many were 100+lbs over weight. They didn't all enter this world as diabetics. And I can pull that data for most hospitals in the State of Florida where I live and the data is similar if not worse. I don't know for sure what they numbers are in other States but I've heard they are very similar, 40% minimum in most areas.  

I understand why you want to stab at me but you are barking up the wrong tree. I cannot understand why folks are so irate at professional athletes. To my knowledge we haven't lost a single NFL player, maybe I am completely wrong but I haven't heard of an NFL player falling to their death from Covid, that seems like a miracle since we now know that some of these athletes are lying about their vaccination status. 

What exactly are you so angry about? My PM box is open if you need to take it off the forum, I'm not taking your post lightly but how far do you really want to take this? I would let it go.  

Cheers!

 

[Soulfly3]

this guy got absolutely ANNIHILATED by the tv media today.... stephen A went absolutely off (which isnt rare, but rare for him to be anti-rodgers, he loves him), but i havent seen a single anyone stand up in his defense.

the league is gonna have to cave and absolutely lay a slap down on him and the team.

this will be wild

 

[sho nuff]

this guy got absolutely ANNIHILATED by the tv media today.... stephen A went absolutely off (which isnt rare, but rare for him to be anti-rodgers, he loves him), but i havent seen a single anyone stand up in his defense.

the league is gonna have to cave and absolutely lay a slap down on him and the team.

this will be wild

Cave to what?   People being upset that he misled the media and fans.  Yeah...ok.  He did and they are all free to be pissed about that.

Doesn't make it against any league rules outside of instances of not wearing a mask or other violations that seem to be happening on other teams as well.  Is the league going to take massive action against multiple teams?

 

[jhib]

Let's replay the tapes friend-o 

"I think getting the vaccine for most folks is the right call"

-Did I say something wrong?

Just staaaaaaaahp, aim your internal social hate at Rodgers not MOP, wife works in a hospital, can't even pick her up for lunch unless I follow protocol which includes being vaccinated not immunized so why don't you take a big step back buddy, thanks a bunch. We have good exchanges on players, lets not try and paint each other as the enemy. 

I'm not sure where you are getting the impression that I am in any way angry/hating on anyone/treating anyone with disrespect here, and am sorry if I came across that way enough for you to jump to that friend-o, buddy, etc routine. 

Ok, I guess I can see where you'd get defensive from my response, but it wasn't anger/hate/disrespect that I was showing, just frustration.  I am just frustrated when I see comparisons like the one you made between vaccine mandates and hypothetical nutrition/exercise mandates and am flabbergasted that some people can't see the huge difference.

Did you say anything wrong?  I think so.  You said a lot and I purposely only quoted one part I had an issue with.  I like the part you quoted ("I think getting the vaccine for most folks is the right call" ), but I didn't think it right to cut you off mid-sentence in my quote and chop that off when it's the rest - you know, after the "but" that I was referring to.  It's always the "but..." where people go wrong. 

And the rest of your response frustrates me as well, because your going on about diabetics dying from Covid gives me a hint that you don't realize the point I was trying to make and really don't see the difference.

 

[trader jake]

this guy got absolutely ANNIHILATED by the tv media today.... stephen A went absolutely off (which isnt rare, but rare for him to be anti-rodgers, he loves him), but i havent seen a single anyone stand up in his defense.

Anything other than Aaron Rodgers owning his intentionally misleading statements and apologizing will absolutely backfire on him.  If he gets into Covid talk or his health regimen before doing that...he'll lose the people still listening before he even gets going.

 

[eighsse]

Oh god, not this.

Lordy, not that old "recognizing the massive gulf between the extremely hyperbolic response to this new issue, and the sensible, measured response to a similar issue" bit again!

 

[Deamon]

Lordy, not that old "recognizing the massive gulf between the extremely hyperbolic response to this new issue, and the sensible, measured response to a similar issue" bit again!

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing here.  Either way, this isn't the thread to discuss "Covid is just a flu"

 

[GreenNGold]

the league is gonna have to cave and absolutely lay a slap down on him and the team.

for what, following the unvaccinated player protocol? 

 

[eighsse]

Lordy, not that old "recognizing the massive gulf between the extremely hyperbolic response to this new issue, and the sensible, measured response to a similar issue" bit again!

ETA: Sarcasm above! "Recognizing the massive gulf between the extremely hyperbolic response to this new issue, and the sensible, measured response to a similar issue" is a reasonable thing to do.

Also, Aaron Rodgers, football, passes and blitzes and such, etc.

Also ETA: Sorry, did this edit the wrong way.

 

[Pipes]

Might be the best tweet I've ever seen.

There was a tweet during the draft about the front office really trying to piss Aaron off by drafting a member of his family (after they drafted Amari Rodgers).  I'm not doing the tweet justice it was much funnier than I'm describing.  

 

[Soulfly3]

for what, following the unvaccinated player protocol? 

 you think he did that?  

 

[GreenNGold]

 you think he did that?  

 you think he did something that warrants the league to "lay a slap down on him and the team?   

 

[Deamon]

 you think he did something that warrants the league to "lay a slap down on him and the team?   

Yes, he absolutely did not follow protocol by unvaxxed players.  He was unmasked during pressers.... there's one right there.

 

[Deamon]

ETA: Sarcasm above! "Recognizing the massive gulf between the extremely hyperbolic response to this new issue, and the sensible, measured response to a similar issue" is a reasonable thing to do.

Also, Aaron Rodgers, football, passes and blitzes and such, etc.

Also ETA: Sorry, did this edit the wrong way.

Even more confused now.

 

[Soulfly3]

 you think he did something that warrants the league to "lay a slap down on him and the team?   

i dont think. i know. as does everyone who watches and is paid to comment on the nfl.

 

[Soulfly3]

what do you think happens when the nfl gets the security footage (which it has apparently requested) from GB showing rodgers coasting all willy nilly thru the team facilities like he's already received his booster dose? 

 

[GreenNGold]

i dont think. i know. as does everyone who watches and is paid to comment on the nfl.

what do you know that he did that warrants further action?  it seems like everyone is just screaming protocol without knowing what the protocol is or saying what he violated.  

The only thing I've seen so far is being unmasked in a press conference, so maybe a fine is in order?  What warrants some big slap down to both Rodgers and the team? 

 

[Soulfly3]

Stephan A goes off.

I usually laugh at/with this guy, but he nailed it on this one. 

 

[Insein]

Yes, he absolutely did not follow protocol by unvaxxed players.  He was unmasked during pressers.... there's one right there.

Actually I'm going through the Covid document now for the NFL 2021 and it doesn't really spell out the protocol for an unvaccinated player when dealing with the media. It does dictate that the media (tier 2 individuals) must be vaccinated in order to get close to the team. Post game interviews or question sessions must have the media members maintain 10 feet of distance from the players indoor or outdoor according to this. 

So I doubt anything comes from it. GB and the NFL seemed to know he wasn't vaccinated and have been following procedures. 

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/health-and-wellness/covid-19/nfl-nflpa-covid-19-protocols-for-the-2021-regular-season

 

[Deamon]

what do you know that he did that warrants further action?  it seems like everyone is just screaming protocol without knowing what the protocol is or saying what he violated.  

The only thing I've seen so far is being unmasked in a press conference, so maybe a fine is in order?  What warrants some big slap down to both Rodgers and the team? 

I know you're an unbiased NFL fan who is impartial on the Packers but....

oh wait.

 

 

[Deamon]

Actually I'm going through the Covid document now for the NFL 2021 and it doesn't really spell out the protocol for an unvaccinated player when dealing with the media. It does dictate that the media (tier 2 individuals) must be vaccinated in order to get close to the team. Post game interviews or question sessions must have the media members maintain 10 feet of distance from the layers indoor or outdoor according to this. 

So I doubt anything comes from it. GB and the NFL seemed to know he wasn't vaccinated and have been following procedures. 

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/health-and-wellness/covid-19/nfl-nflpa-covid-19-protocols-for-the-2021-regular-season

I'm pretty sure SOMETHING will come from it.  The media was just one thing... again, there's many things he likely broke.  And sure you can say "prove it then", and I hope the NFL does, but if your common sense actually believes this guy was not eating with the team, masked in all meetings, etc.... then I doubt your common sense.  But we will see.

 

[GreenNGold]

I know you're an unbiased NFL fan who is impartial on the Packers but....

oh wait.

 

I am pretty unbiased (despite my screen name I don't really root that hard for any team anymore although the Packers are still my favorite -- I root for my fantasy teams and DFS lineups the most) and you are taking my comments out of context.  I didn't say Rodgers didn't do anything wrong or that he's not an idiot.  I was saying I don't think there is anything that warrants some massive further punishment against both the team and Rodgers.  I guess if there is anything out there we will find out eventually.  

The team could also be lying but they claim he always wore a mask in meetings. 

 

[Soulfly3]

stephen a specifically recounts an unmasked AR on the field w players after the game, face to face/mouth in ear (in specific w kyler etc)

anyways... no chance in hell he was following protocol at the facilities. none. guy dunt care

 

[Insein]

I'm pretty sure SOMETHING will come from it.  The media was just one thing... again, there's many things he likely broke.  And sure you can say "prove it then", and I hope the NFL does, but if your common sense actually believes this guy was not eating with the team, masked in all meetings, etc.... then I doubt your common sense.  But we will see.

I mean I'm already coming from the angle that the NFL Covid policies are stupid and nonsensical anyway. I'm just  waiting for the ####### statement Goodell makes about it. Either way it's going to be hilarious.

 

[menobrown]

stephen a specifically recounts an unmasked AR on the field w players after the game, face to face/mouth in ear (in specific w kyler etc)

anyways... no chance in hell he was following protocol at the facilities. none. guy dunt care

Agreed, no chance he was following protocols inside the building.

I feel like the question is who is going to pay for ignoring protocol?  Rodgers, the franchise, or both?

 

[Deamon]

I am pretty unbiased and you are taking my comments out of context.  I didn't say Rodgers didn't do anything wrong or that he's not an idiot.  I was saying I don't think there is anything that warrants some massive further punishment against both the team and Rodgers.  I guess if there is anything out there we will find out eventually.  

I think the OP said "lay a slap down on the team and him".... which you interpreted as "massive".  The classic game of telephone.  I think it's somewhere in the middle.  Do I think the league should do something about it?  Yes.  But I never said or implied "massive" punishments.

 

[Soulfly3]

rogers suspended 2-3 games. team fine. maybe a loss of a pick or 2... that's what i expect. 

nfl can't do nothing, they have to give the impression they care, even if they really dont.

 

[GreenNGold]

rogers suspended 2-3 games. team fine. maybe a loss of a pick or 2... that's what i expect. 

nfl can't do nothing, they have to give the impression they care, even if they really dont.

I highly doubt that, if anything something like the $250k-$350k fines the Ravens and Titans received last year. 

 

[Insein]

rogers suspended 2-3 games. team fine. maybe a loss of a pick or 2... that's what i expect. 

nfl can't do nothing, they have to give the impression they care, even if they really dont.

 

[Soulfly3]

this isnt what i want.. or what i think is deserved.

i think with the spotlight on it, it's what'll happen. just speculating

eta: this is ONLY assuming that rodgers is found to be completely ignoring protocol at the facilities

 

[menobrown]

rogers suspended 2-3 games. team fine. maybe a loss of a pick or 2... that's what i expect. 

nfl can't do nothing, they have to give the impression they care, even if they really dont.

Truth probably likes somewhere in the middle. A little to heavy above,  way light below.

I highly doubt that, if anything something like the $250k-$350k fines the Ravens and Titans received last year. 

 

[Deamon]

Truth probably likes somewhere in the middle. A little to heavy above,  way light below.

Glazer just said on pregame that a full investigation is going on but it will just be about fines and no suspensions will happen. Probably the right call, but hope they get fined. 

 

[The Frankman]

https://dailysnark.com/2021/11/04/aaron-rodgers-may-be-in-more-hot-water-for-new-state-farm-commercial-that-breaks-nfl-rules/
 

It’s not just Rodgers contracting COVID, but rather his vaccination status. When asked if he was vaccinated prior to the start of the season, Rodgers said “Yeah, I’m immunized,” implying he has gotten the shot.

Everything since then seemed to also imply he had the shot, including Rodgers not having to wear a mask on the sideline during games or all the time in team facilities, as well as shooting and promoting commercials with his title sponsor, State Farm.

Only problem? If a player isn’t vaccinated, they are explicitly banned from engaging in sponsorship activities, a ploy implemented by the NFL in attempt to persuade all their players to get the shot.

Rodgers appeared in State Farm’s newest commercial, ‘Game show’, which was released in early October.

Protocols for vaxxed/unvaxxed

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm not sure where you are getting the impression that I am in any way angry/hating on anyone/treating anyone with disrespect here, and am sorry if I came across that way enough for you to jump to that friend-o, buddy, etc routine. 

Ok, I guess I can see where you'd get defensive from my response, but it wasn't anger/hate/disrespect that I was showing, just frustration.  I am just frustrated when I see comparisons like the one you made between vaccine mandates and hypothetical nutrition/exercise mandates and am flabbergasted that some people can't see the huge difference.

Did you say anything wrong?  I think so.  You said a lot and I purposely only quoted one part I had an issue with.  I like the part you quoted ("I think getting the vaccine for most folks is the right call" ), but I didn't think it right to cut you off mid-sentence in my quote and chop that off when it's the rest - you know, after the "but" that I was referring to.  It's always the "but..." where people go wrong. 

And the rest of your response frustrates me as well, because your going on about diabetics dying from Covid gives me a hint that you don't realize the point I was trying to make and really don't see the difference.

And my apologies if I made you feel you needed to reach out and get my attention 

Cheers!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

this guy got absolutely ANNIHILATED by the tv media today.... stephen A went absolutely off (which isnt rare, but rare for him to be anti-rodgers, he loves him), but i havent seen a single anyone stand up in his defense.

the league is gonna have to cave and absolutely lay a slap down on him and the team.

this will be wild

 I was asking @Pipes about this last night and i think the Shark Pool was out in front of this asking or perhaps even assuming that there could be real consequences for lying to the officials and the NFL although it seems the Packers had full knowledge. Still, Goodell has full authority to do almost anything he wants as Commissioner and has exhibited the desire to show others what may happen if they do the same things. 

I won't be shocked if Rodgers gets a 1 or even 2 game suspension just because Goodell might ant to send a message. He suspended Tom Brady over deflate-gate without much hard evidence.  

 

[The Kerminator]

 I was asking @Pipes about this last night and i think the Shark Pool was out in front of this asking or perhaps even assuming that there could be real consequences for lying to the officials and the NFL although it seems the Packers had full knowledge. Still, Goodell has full authority to do almost anything he wants as Commissioner and has exhibited the desire to show others what may happen if they do the same things. 

I won't be shocked if Rodgers gets a 1 or even 2 game suspension just because Goodell might ant to send a message. He suspended Tom Brady over deflate-gate without much hard evidence.  

How was Rodgers lying to the officials and the NFL? He went through this homepathic therapy and petitioned them for a couple of weeks to accept it as being immunized.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

How was Rodgers lying to the officials and the NFL? He went through this homepathic therapy and petitioned them for a couple of weeks to accept it as being immunized.

I understand what you're saying. 

 

[Mark Football]

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing here.  Either way, this isn't the thread to discuss "Covid is just a flu"

Oh no I wasn't saying that. I was just pointing out what a self focused selfish human being Rodgers is by suggesting  that he probably couldn't even do something as simple as getting a  flu shot to save people's lives. I think we can all agree he is the worst.

 

[fatness]

FTR: Since i get the data first hand and not thru websites, 50% of the deaths attributed to CV-19 which the hospital receives an automatic $25,000 from the Federal Government for every toe tag(in case you didn't know) but 50%, yes 50% were diabetics

I'd appreciate a link for this.

And there's a chance you're wrong.

Impact on the general population with diabetes has been similarly dire, as overall mortality rates were 50% higher than historical trends

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/44/9/1916

Or you may be referring to the study that showed 40% of COVID deaths were diabetic. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/40-percent-of-people-whove-died-from-covid-19-had-diabetes-researchers-say

Since you're getting your data first hand, how many of those 40% who were diabetic would have died without COVID? Seems to be pretty relevant here.

 

[jhib]

And my apologies if I made you feel you needed to reach out and get my attention 

Cheers!

I wasn't really trying to get your attention per se, but just responding to an idea I saw posted.

But my initial response should have simply been more along the lines of, "There's a big difference between..." rather than "You really can't see the difference between...?"  I'm sorry that my way of expressing it came off as way more of an attack than I intended.

 

[Deamon]

 I was asking @Pipes about this last night and i think the Shark Pool was out in front of this asking or perhaps even assuming that there could be real consequences for lying to the officials and the NFL although it seems the Packers had full knowledge. Still, Goodell has full authority to do almost anything he wants as Commissioner and has exhibited the desire to show others what may happen if they do the same things. 

I won't be shocked if Rodgers gets a 1 or even 2 game suspension just because Goodell might ant to send a message. He suspended Tom Brady over deflate-gate without much hard evidence.  

They already said suspension wouldn't be at play here.  I expect it will just be a fine. 

 

[fatness]

Actually I'm going through the Covid document now for the NFL 2021 and it doesn't really spell out the protocol for an unvaccinated player when dealing with the media. It does dictate that the media (tier 2 individuals) must be vaccinated in order to get close to the team. Post game interviews or question sessions must have the media members maintain 10 feet of distance from the players indoor or outdoor according to this. 

So I doubt anything comes from it. GB and the NFL seemed to know he wasn't vaccinated and have been following procedures. 

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/health-and-wellness/covid-19/nfl-nflpa-covid-19-protocols-for-the-2021-regular-season

I think this is the link you want: https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1635965965/league/fmq0qpr18ehrlk8nmvib.pdf

Rodgers is not Tier 1 since he is not vaccinated. He's Tier 3, subject to all the restrictions starting on the bottome of page 8 of that pdf.

Tier 3. Individuals who perform essential facility, stadium or event services but
do not require close contact with Tier 1 Individuals are eligible for Tier 3 access September 28, 2021

(collectively, “Tier 3 Individuals”). Tier 3 Individuals must avoid close contact
with Tier 1 Individuals and Tier 2 Individuals, must wear PPE at all times when in
the Club facility and are only permitted to access Restricted Areas when Tier 1
and Tier 2 Individuals are not present

 

[voiceofunreason]

They already said suspension wouldn't be at play here.  I expect it will just be a fine. 

We all know the nfl isn't suspending an MVP candidate unless it's forced to.