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QB Baker Mayfield, TB (4 Viewers)
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
has a bit of Phillip Rivers type fire/bravado to him
I like him - the kind of guy always doubted, always questioned .... CLE might be a great place for him, another impossible challenge to overcome
I like him - the kind of guy always doubted, always questioned .... CLE might be a great place for him, another impossible challenge to overcome
If he's on my fantasy team, he's awesome. If he's on someone else's then he's a ####.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Mayfield has been told he can't do it since middle school. I rarely put much stock into willpower because it's mostly about talent, but Mayfield has an insatiable desire to prove people wrong.
No doubt he'll go in the 1st round, probably top-15. I wouldn't bet against Mayfield being a top NFL/FF QB if he lands in a decent situation.
No doubt he'll go in the 1st round, probably top-15. I wouldn't bet against Mayfield being a top NFL/FF QB if he lands in a decent situation.
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I'm thinking he could be a Menzel level flop in the pros. And his personality and his showboating are going to get him killed on the next level. He's not going to have a bunch of college girls screaming for him. He's going to have a bunch of angry men wanting to rip his head off
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
What is he doing after they score?....shooting like a cowboy?....pulling money out of his pockets?.....just curious
Soulfly3
Footballguy
I dont get the "showboating" thing.
He's animated. He's hungry. He's a stud.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I just couldn't figure out what he was doing ... looked goofy to me ... just curious.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The next Ryan Leaf.
Ryan Leaf was considered a legit NFL prospect. By the time the draft rolls around, no one will consider Mayziel one.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I really can't stand the Manziel comparisons. He may take the competitiveness a little overboard once in a while but I'd rather have that mentality leading the team and galvanizing the locker room than a dead fish like Eli, for instance.
Manziel was a silver spoon, spoiled #######. Mayfield may be a different breed of showman #######, but he scraped and clawed for every opportunity.
He was a walk-on who worked his ### off to get where he is. He's improved his mechanics every year and gone from a stereotypical college playmaker who didn't seem to project well into an NFL offense to a legitimate early round NFL QB prospect.
He's not perfect, and I'd prefer Rosen and consider Lamar. But he's a gamer in the vein of Russ and Watson, not Manziel or Tebow imo. He's a legitimate NFL starting QB prospect.
To me, it's understandable to not be into Mayfield's personality or his tape. I don't agree, but I can see the criticisms and the flaws. But it's not fair to lump him in with Manziel because he's a bit of an irreverent, arrogant showboat. That comparison is lazy. And I don't say that in an insulting way, a lot of people are using that comparison. Its just bad.
I would love to have a guy like Mayfield leading a locker room. I did not feel that way about Manziel. Most locker room cultures could use a personality like Mayfield to energize it imo. Somebody to rally behind, with the type of personality that demands winning and holds teammates accountable. Someone with fire, who gives a ####.
Manziel was a silver spoon, spoiled #######. Mayfield may be a different breed of showman #######, but he scraped and clawed for every opportunity.
He was a walk-on who worked his ### off to get where he is. He's improved his mechanics every year and gone from a stereotypical college playmaker who didn't seem to project well into an NFL offense to a legitimate early round NFL QB prospect.
He's not perfect, and I'd prefer Rosen and consider Lamar. But he's a gamer in the vein of Russ and Watson, not Manziel or Tebow imo. He's a legitimate NFL starting QB prospect.
To me, it's understandable to not be into Mayfield's personality or his tape. I don't agree, but I can see the criticisms and the flaws. But it's not fair to lump him in with Manziel because he's a bit of an irreverent, arrogant showboat. That comparison is lazy. And I don't say that in an insulting way, a lot of people are using that comparison. Its just bad.
I would love to have a guy like Mayfield leading a locker room. I did not feel that way about Manziel. Most locker room cultures could use a personality like Mayfield to energize it imo. Somebody to rally behind, with the type of personality that demands winning and holds teammates accountable. Someone with fire, who gives a ####.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Chad Kelly and Mayfield competing for the same spot? That just might be worth the price of admission all on its own.
It's a lazy comparison based mainly on height. Manziel isn't tough like this guy. He also is not interested in learning the game. I believe Mayfield is, simply based on how he got to where he is. manziel simply wanted to party. This guy wants to win. That's not saying he flops. He might but he's not Manziel. Height can be an issue on some passes. I think you have to game plan around that. Brees has no issues so it's not a problem to design plays that work. If he can hit people in stride and on the deep ball, he should be fine.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Ryan Leaf was the #2 pick and someone who was "can't miss", this is a horrific comparison.
But good luck, guy.
If he is a student of the game at this level. Like Wentz is. That's why he is so good already.
Mayfield is a total ########, but I think he'll be a good pro. He poise, arm and leadership is going to carry him in the NFL for a long time.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
petekrum said:
It’s absolutely a valid opinion. It may not prove out in actual game play at the NFL level, but if one professes to have some level of expertise and has actually watched this year’s QB crop play, that expert would have to acknowledge that this is a very real possibility.
You seem like a pretty knowlegable guy. I’m trying to figure how that squares with your absolutist attitude.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
It was pretty much a tongue in cheek comment. He didn’t get fired because of that opinion. I just am adamantly of the opinion that Mayfield at BEST ends up being a middle of the bell curve QB in the NFL and at worst a total flop.
Eassssy big fella, you guys might want to just try to have a two win season first. Baby steps.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Man In The Box
Footballguy
If he’s there at 11 (probably not) I would love to see him in Miami.
I believe what I believe, and that’s BS by the way, I’ve dialed my opinions back considerably these past few months to try and not step on so many toes, but on some topics (Baker Mayfield) I remain adamant.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I doubt you'll find much agreement on that. But you be you.
Truly, it's not offensive. But it is aggressive.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Will BM still be on the board at 11 ?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
for Baker I think it really depends on landing spot. Denver or perhaps a team later in the draft like Pitt or the saints where he can sit and learn for two season might be beneficial.
If he is thrown to the dogs in NYJ or Cleveland....might be rough on the kid.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
This is true I can’t get Pete to hop on this train Lord knows I gave up trying! LMAO
TEX
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Reminds me of when Manziel called Cleveland and told them to Hurry up and draft him but I do believe Baker is a much better QB.
Tex
