QB Baker Mayfield, TB (1 Viewer)

[Grahamburn]

No idea what an extension would cost, but a franchise tag would currently be about 30M. 

Cheap for an above average starter.  More likely Mayfield will continue to be an average to below average starter and not someone teams will want to commit to long term as their starter.  He's just good enough to get you beat in the playoffs if the roster around him is great. 

But, maybe he's Drew Brees?  I'd want to wait a season or two to find out though. 

 

[Ghost Rider]

Mayfield also said in that podcast that he'd like to go to someone's cubicle and yell at them so see how they like it. 

Amazing what a doofus this guy is.  He has the maturity of a 5-year old.  Whatever team eventually takes him on, good luck.  

 

[Faust]

Baker Mayfield speaks on looming divorce from Browns: 'I feel disrespected'

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Geno Smith isn’t even on the Seattle roster - and Pete Carroll says a lot of stuff most people know isn’t true. Geno Smith is horrible and starting him would only be optimal if they decided to tank the season.

I’m just sayin what I heard. I know Carroll is FOS. 

Like I said - they’re stalling to get him as cheaply as possible. That’s the take-away from my post, not that I legitimately thought he was enamored with Geno Smith.

I know the G-word can be triggering for Jets fans. Apologies. lol

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I’m just sayin what I heard. I know Carroll is FOS. 

Like I said - they’re stalling to get him as cheaply as possible. That’s the take-away from my post, not that I legitimately thought he was enamored with Geno Smith.

I know the G-word can be triggering for Jets fans. Apologies. lol

If they really liked Geno Smith, he’d be on the team. It’s not like they’re in a bidding war against other teams.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If they really liked Geno Smith, he’d be on the team. It’s not like they’re in a bidding war against other teams.

Same can be said about Baker Mayfield. That’s my point. They’ll wait until the Browns are desperate to get rid of him, knowing the Browns won’t cut him & has no other legitimate suitors.

And FWIW, I’ve heard Carroll actually does like Lock. Maybe he thinks he can fix him, if the Browns aren’t willing to eat that much of his contract. 

It’ll be interesting to see it play out. 

 

[travdogg]

Same can be said about Baker Mayfield. That’s my point. They’ll wait until the Browns are desperate to get rid of him, knowing the Browns won’t cut him & has no other legitimate suitors.

And FWIW, I’ve heard Carroll actually does like Lock. Maybe he thinks he can fix him, if the Browns aren’t willing to eat that much of his contract. 

It’ll be interesting to see it play out. 

I think there are probably several teams who are interested, but want to see what the draft brings, as a rookie obviously will be much cheaper. That said, if some surprises happen and teams who aren't expected to be in the rookie QB market are (which happens every year) somebody is going to be left short a QB, and Mayfield, and maybe Jimmy G, will be on their radars. 

I think there are about 6-10 teams I'm expecting to either draft a QB, or add Mayfield or Jimmy G. There aren't 10 rookie QBs, and depending on how the NFL feels about Carson Strong's knee, there may not even be 6. 

I still think Carolina makes a ton of sense for Mayfield, they have the most cap space in the NFL right now, have a HC who is #1 on the hotseat, and only 1 pick in the top-100. 

 

[Cjw_55106]

Seattle is signing Geno to a one year, 7M contract...so there's that. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Same can be said about Baker Mayfield. That’s my point. They’ll wait until the Browns are desperate to get rid of him, knowing the Browns won’t cut him & has no other legitimate suitors.

And FWIW, I’ve heard Carroll actually does like Lock. Maybe he thinks he can fix him, if the Browns aren’t willing to eat that much of his contract. 

It’ll be interesting to see it play out. 

Seahawks re-signed QB Geno Smith to a one-year contract worth 'around $4 million.' 

If Smith hits all his incentives, it could be worth up to $7 million. The Seahawks have been rumored to be looking at the available quarterbacks, but if they don't draft one, they'd enter camp with a three-man battle between Drew Lock, Jacob Eason, and Smith. That's as Down Bad of a depth chart at the most important position in football as we can recall in recent memory. Smith hasn't started more than three games since 2014, but posted a career-best 68.4% completion rate and five touchdowns in said three starts with Seattle last year. 

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Baker Mayfield nails it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Baker Mayfield nails it.

Poor guy lost his job and his dog is dead.

 

[Faust]

SHOULD BAKER MAYFIELD FEEL 'DISRESPECTED' BY BROWNS?

 

[Faust]

Jeremiah: Baker Mayfield 'deserves' a starting QB job in 2022

 

[Faust]

Speaking on the Ya Never Know podcast, Baker Mayfield noted that he tore his labrum in Week 2 and fractured a bone in his shoulder in Week 6 of the 2021 season. 

“So I tore my labrum completely, like full front and like basically 90 percent in the back. That was Week Two. I did that in the first half. Played the rest of the game, I was fine. ... Four weeks later, we were playing the Cardinals, and I dislocated my shoulder again. But I dislocated it so bad and at a different angle that the bone, like the humerus that goes up into your shoulder socket, like the big bone right here [that] comes up into your ball and socket and it forced its way out. And I fractured the bone because it wasn’t gonna be a clean exit. So I fractured the bone. So when I had the labrum done and that fracture, the inflammation and everything, I had no function in my left shoulder," Mayfield elaborated. As much as we poke fun at Mayfield, it's not hard to empathize with him for playing through this and being irked that the Browns went out and got a new quarterback. 

SOURCE: Pro Football Talk on NBCSports.com

Apr 14, 2022, 1:08 PM ET

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wow. Geno & Lock over BM. I’m actually a little bit shocked by that. 
 

what are the chances Seattle carries three quarterbacks?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think there are probably several teams who are interested, but want to see what the draft brings, as a rookie obviously will be much cheaper. That said, if some surprises happen and teams who aren't expected to be in the rookie QB market are (which happens every year) somebody is going to be left short a QB, and Mayfield, and maybe Jimmy G, will be on their radars. 

I think there are about 6-10 teams I'm expecting to either draft a QB, or add Mayfield or Jimmy G. There aren't 10 rookie QBs, and depending on how the NFL feels about Carson Strong's knee, there may not even be 6. 

I still think Carolina makes a ton of sense for Mayfield, they have the most cap space in the NFL right now, have a HC who is #1 on the hotseat, and only 1 pick in the top-100. 

Is BM willing to be a back-up?

Carolina, famously needs a quarterback, & has straight up said they have no interest.

what other teams do you see as possibilities for him starting? 

 

[matuski]

Go to AZ when Murray holds out.

 

[travdogg]

Is BM willing to be a back-up?

Carolina, famously needs a quarterback, & has straight up said they have no interest.

what other teams do you see as possibilities for him starting? 

I don't trust anything any team says about anyone right now. Its misinformation season. Carolina could be being honest, they could just as likely be trying to lower the price, or make people think they are taking a QB at #6 in order to trade down with someone who wants to move up. Nobody really knows, and frankly, I'm not sure the Panthers even know, though that is more of a comment about that organization than anything else. 

I think Mayfield would absolutely be open to being a backup for a year, just not in Cleveland. He (understandably) feels betrayed by them. I think he's mostly right to feel that way, after playing through injuries that would have landed many QBs on IR, he toughed it out, and his reward was being replaced. I don't think that animosity carries over to a different franchise. 

I think any of Atlanta, Carolina, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Seattle (Geno re-signing doesn't prevent anything) or Washington, could be willing to bring him in to at least compete for the starting job if they don't address the position in the draft.

That's 10 teams, and there are maybe 6 QBs in the draft, depending on how the NFL feels about Carson Strong's knee. So 4 teams who will likely be left out in the cold, and will see Mayfield and Garoppolo as options. Personally, I think Mayfield is a much more attractive option than Garoppolo, since he's younger, cheaper to acquire, and in my opinion, just plain better. 

I could see a deal happening during the draft probably on late day 2 or day 3, depending on who goes and when. I think the Browns will also be motivated to get him off the books, either by accepting a far below value draft pick, or by essentially buying a draft pick, and agreeing to pay much of Mayfield's salary.  

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport believes the Panthers are the most likely landing spot for Baker Mayfield. 

In Carolina, we could see Mayfield compete with Sam Darnold in training camp -- the battle America needs and deserves. Rapoport also mentioned Tampa as a potential destination for the disgruntled Cleveland quarterback. With the Bucs, Mayfield could pull a Mitch Trubisky and serve as a backup until more appealing starting gigs open up in 2023. Whether he's good enough to seize those starting jobs is another question entirely. Mayfield struggled through various injuries in 2021 -- including a torn labrum -- and regressed from his solid 2020 campaign. His days as the Browns QB are over after the team sold out to acquire Deshaun Watson from Houston last month. The Seahawks have been linked to Mayfield too, though the team continues to pretend they're OK with Drew Lock as their Week 1 starter. 

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SOURCE: Pat McAfee on Twitter

Apr 15, 2022, 12:54 PM ET

 

[Faust]

The Athletic's Joe Person said Baker Mayfield is "not the only guy on the list" for the Panthers.

Person didn't cite any inside sources, but he is almost certainly referring to Jimmy Garoppolo. The Panthers have also done their homework on the rookie quarterbacks this offseason as well. There is also the issue of Mayfield's contract. If Carolina trades for Mayfield, they would also inherit his $18.8 million salary. As Person noted, the Browns would have to take on some of that hit to make a deal with the Panthers work. With how desperate the team is to move Mayfield, Cleveland would likely eat a hefty amount of that cap hit. Now that most teams are set at quarterback, Mayfield looks on track to play in Seattle or Carolina in the upcoming season. Because the Browns have little leverage in the situation, acquiring Mayfield won't cost much for either squad. 

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SOURCE: Joe Person on Twitter

Apr 17, 2022, 9:56 AM ET

 

[Faust]

Browns have ‘no leverage’ in trading Baker Mayfield, ESPN analyst says

 

[Faust]

WHERE WILL BAKER MAYFIELD LAND? GAUGING PANTHERS, SEAHAWKS, MORE

Steelers would sign Baker Mayfield 'next day' if Browns cut him, per report

 

[Godsbrother]

WHERE WILL BAKER MAYFIELD LAND? GAUGING PANTHERS, SEAHAWKS, MORE

Steelers would sign Baker Mayfield 'next day' if Browns cut him, per report

Just want to point out this another reporter expressing an opinion the Steelers would sign Mayfield "next day" if cut by the Browns.  It is not based on any source inside the Steelers organization and while they might talk to Mayfield if/when that happens there is no guarantee he would want to sign for what the Steelers might offer.

 

[Faust]

An NFC executive told Fansided’s Matt Lombardo the Seahawks are still “very much in the mix” to trade for Baker Mayfield.

Mayfield’s market “has started to intensify,” according to Lombardo, with the Browns looking to move Mayfield ahead of next week’s draft. Seattle has been the top landing spot for Mayfield, but with $15.7 million in cap space, Cleveland would need to cover part of Mayfield's $18 million salary to get a deal done. The Panthers plan to wait until after the draft before considering Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo trades, while the Steelers are expected to have Mayfield interest if the Browns grant his release. Whichever team passes on drafting a quarterback could ultimately be where Mayfield ends up.

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SOURCE: Fansided

Apr 22, 2022, 6:20 PM ET

 

[travdogg]

I don't recall it ever happening, but say for the sake of argument the Steelers really did want Mayfield, and the Browns are adamant about not trading him there, is there anything that stops say, Seattle from trading a day 3 pick for Mayfield, and then instantly trading him to the Steelers for a similar pick?

 

[nightmare]

I don't recall it ever happening, but say for the sake of argument the Steelers really did want Mayfield, and the Browns are adamant about not trading him there, is there anything that stops say, Seattle from trading a day 3 pick for Mayfield, and then instantly trading him to the Steelers for a similar pick?

Players come and go but GM's want to keep a good relationship with other teams.

A team would not be good for long with a "screw everyone else" mentality.

 

[MAC_32]

I don't recall it ever happening, but say for the sake of argument the Steelers really did want Mayfield, and the Browns are adamant about not trading him there, is there anything that stops say, Seattle from trading a day 3 pick for Mayfield, and then instantly trading him to the Steelers for a similar pick?

If the Steelers are really interested I think the Browns would work with them. Same division be damned. 

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Cameron Wolfe reports the Browns' asking price for Baker Mayfield "could come down" after the NFL Draft. 

"There hasn't been as much interest in Baker," Wolfe said. The Panthers, he added, could pursue Mayfield if they forgo a quarterback in the draft. It's no surprise there isn't much interest in acquiring Mayfield for top dollar after his catastrophic 2021 season in Cleveland. His solid 2020 campaign -- in which he had the NFL's ninth highest expected points added (EPA) per drop back and the eighth highest completion rate over expected -- has been long forgotten. The Seahawks, without a viable starting QB on their roster, are reportedly interested in Mayfield. In Carolina, he would compete with Sam Darnold for the Week 1 starting job -- a competition that should make for decent punchlines on Twitter. 

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SOURCE: Cameron Wolfe on Twitter

Apr 25, 2022, 8:58 AM ET

 

[Faust]

Panthers not expected to trade for Browns QB Baker Mayfield prior to first round of 2022 NFL Draft

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Brandon Little@BrandonLittleSI

According to one NFL writer, #Browns QB Baker Mayfield to the Seattle #Seahawks is a lock

>>> NFL writer calls Baker Mayfield to Seattle a lock

...the Browns trading Mayfield to Seattle, for a fourth-round pick. Ideally, this would be a 2022 draft pick. Though it could be a fourth that could turn into a third next year, depending on how Mayfield works out for Seattle.

..., the Browns will likely have to pay some of the nearly $19 million that Mayfield will make 

 

[ffmail4me]

Why would Seattle do that? There appears to be ZERO market for him. I said the same thing about Washington giving up any pics for Wentz. Just wait...he'll hit waivers soon enough. 

 

[Bracie Smathers]

... Just wait...he'll hit waivers soon enough. 

Browns have zero incentive to cut him since they'd have to pay his full salary.  

Teams have signed FA QB and are evaluating potential rookie QBs so options appear available, the market will change.

Starting QBs get injured, the Browns will hold him into the regular season if they have to.

There isn't any expenditure to keeping a sunk cost whose value will increase so he will not be cut soon.  

 

[Godsbrother]

Browns have zero incentive to cut him since they'd have to pay his full salary.  

Teams have signed FA QB and are evaluating potential rookie QBs so options appear available, the market will change.

Starting QBs get injured, the Browns will hold him into the regular season if they have to.

There isn't any expenditure to keeping a sunk cost whose value will increase so he will not be cut soon.  

No incentive at the moment but eventually they will want to get rid of a malcontent and distraction. 

If they can't trade him you may be right that they won't cut him but I'm betting they would rather keep him away from the rest of them team.  

 

[Bracie Smathers]

No incentive at the moment but eventually they will want to get rid of a malcontent and distraction. 

If they can't trade him you may be right that they won't cut him but I'm betting they would rather keep him away from the rest of them team.  

If Baker violates the terms of his contract he forfeits his salary and diminishes his market and he knows that.

He's injured and still in recovery and wasn't/isn't expected back for months.  He won't be involved in any team activities and wasn't expected to even before the Browns signed Watson.  

They will place him in bubble wrap and prevent him from getting an injury where he could receive a settlement or harm his trade value.  

I don't think anything will happen for months so I'd be surprised if he got moved during or soon after the draft.  

 

[amnesiac]

He's injured and still in recovery and wasn't/isn't expected back for months.  He won't be involved in any team activities and wasn't expected to even before the Browns signed Watson.  

You are correct and I think a lot of people forget about this point.

They can excuse him from team activities while he is doing rehab from surgery.  And they can likely drag that out as long as they'd like to.

 

[Godsbrother]

You are correct and I think a lot of people forget about this point.

They can excuse him from team activities while he is doing rehab from surgery.  And they can likely drag that out as long as they'd like to.

Yes and I can see it going down that way.   The one thing I don't see happening in any scenario is Baker Mayfield ever taking another snap for the Cleveland Browns.

 

[amnesiac]

Yes and I can see it going down that way.   The one thing I don't see happening in any scenario is Baker Mayfield ever taking another snap for the Cleveland Browns.

I think you are in the vast majority with that take, for sure.

 

[Faust]

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports Baker Mayfield's trade market is heating up and a move possible in the "next few days," with the Panthers one potential destination. 

Mary Kay Cabot reports the Seahawks "might possibly be another" interested party. Per Cabot, "there are a couple of teams that haven’t yet been identified who could come forward over the weekend depending on how the draft falls." It's that final point that is least surprising. Mayfield's market will almost certainly come unjammed once the first 32 picks are announced on Thursday evening, with a move becoming a real possibility by Friday afternoon. Of course, it is also possible the potentially interested parties get one more swing at a quarterback in the early picks of Round 2. Either way, this saga should soon be coming to an end. 

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SOURCE: Cleveland Plain Dealer 

Apr 28, 2022, 1:48 PM ET

 

[amnesiac]

no QBs taken yet.  
 

may bode well for the Browns to move him soon. 

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Might need a new title for this thread.

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Scott Petrak ct@ScottPetrak

He's talking about #Browns trading Baker Mayfield to Panthers.

Steve Smith Sr.@CutToIt

What I'm hearing is not making me feel good.... my stomach hurts

LINK to vid

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Kimberley A. Martin reports the "Panthers' pursuit of Baker Mayfield continues to heat up."

Martin adds Mayfield "*COULD*" end up traded to Carolina as early as Friday night. This echoes a Thursday report from Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer. With absolutely zero leverage, the Browns will likely have to accept bottom dollar for the embattled quarterback. 

SOURCE: Kimberley A. Martin on Twitter

Apr 29, 2022, 8:24 PM ET

 

[Bracie Smathers]

ESPN's Kimberley A. Martin reports the "Panthers' pursuit of Baker Mayfield continues to heat up."

Just cooled.

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David Newton@DNewtonespn

The Panthers select Ole Miss quarterback Matt Corral with the 94th pick.

 

[ex-ghost]

Seahawks, maybe.

 

[Faust]

Panthers GM Scott Fitterer confirmed the team is out of the running for a veteran quarterback after drafting Ole Miss' Matt Corral. 

Aka Baker Mayfield needs an NIL deal. Pro Football Network's Aaron Wilson reported earlier Friday that the Panthers went in the Corral direction after trade talks broke down with the Browns. Save for Seattle, Mayfield is essentially out of places to go, something that will further drag out trade talks even if the Seahawks are actually interested. There is no reason for urgency on any interested team's part at this point. Playing hurt in 2021, Mayfield did himself no favors, while his attitude has quite apparently not endeared him to rival front offices. 

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SOURCE: David Newton on Twitter 

Apr 29, 2022, 11:35 PM ET

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

With Baker and JimmyG homeless effectively, this game of musical QB chairs is about to end badly for one or both.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

With Baker and JimmyG homeless effectively, this game of musical QB chairs is about to end badly for one or both.

I don’t see why anyone would trade for either. Neither are going to take bad teams to the playoffs. Baker to Seattle would make some sense since as Seattle isn’t that bad of a roster and can maybe sneak into the playoffs in a weaker NFC.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I don’t see why anyone would trade for either. Neither are going to take bad teams to the playoffs. Baker to Seattle would make some sense since as Seattle isn’t that bad of a roster and can maybe sneak into the playoffs in a weaker NFC.

Agree

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Baker's new home

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said his "sense" is the Seahawks' interest in Baker Mayfield is "lukewarm at best."

"They like to stretch the field vertically," Rapoport said. "It doesn't seem like Baker really fits what they are gonna want to do." With the Panthers out of the running and the Seahawks seemingly not interested -- or at least acting that way to drive down the asking price -- the possible landing spots for Mayfield are dying up quickly. Rapoport said keeping Mayfield until training camp might be Cleveland's only option. 

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Apr 30, 2022, 5:13 PM ET

 

[Faust]

The NFL Draft Is Over and Baker Mayfield Remains a Brown; Now What?

Could the Browns need Baker Mayfield for 2022?