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QB Baker Mayfield, TB (1 Viewer)

Hankmoody said:
These are scheduled interviews that each team requests from the players.  It's why the players are invited, and it's one of their obligations to attend.  It's 15 freaking minutes of one's life, he can act like an adult and deal with the challenge and not some petulant child that doesn't get his TV time in before bedtime.

You're not "professional" anything if you're "calling people out".  Professionals are courteous and graceful in getting themselves extricated from difficult situations with minimal wasted resources. 
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Earlier in the article it quotes Mayfield saying that the interviews he had with the Saints, Bills, Dolphins, and Jets were more important than his 3 years in college when it comes to his future. He clearly cares deeply about the interviews, with teams that actually matter. It never stated that this was a scheduled interview, or an obligation of his, in the article. So if it was, I missed that part. It just stated that the scout wanted 15 minutes of his time. And that's time that he could be spending with a team that might actually draft him.  He told the guy politely he'd see what he could do but he had a busy night, and the guy wouldn't let it go. He could have responded in a more professional manner, that is true, but I'm not going to hold it against the kid. 

And maybe "calling people out" was a poor choice of words (not yelling it across the office), but letting someone know that something is a waste of time is the professional thing to do, because it minimizes wasted resources in the future. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Want to know why Mayfield planted the Sooner flag on OSU?

Ohio State players sang their fight song on Oklahoma's field following a 45-24 victory over the Sooners the year before. Bunch of punks.

Everyone knows why he grabbed his junk versus Kansas.

I'm totally okay with his sorry/not sorry apologies in both cases.
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On the sideline, gathered up with their fans, as they do at every game, they sang their alma mater.  Not the fight song and not on the field.  Many schools celebrate with their fans after games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9qUIDPo6Y

Not that I blame Mayfield at all for what he did, all OSU had to do to prevent it was not get their asses handed to them at home and he's not planting anything.

 
Hankmoody said:
On the sideline, gathered up with their fans, as they do at every game, they sang their alma mater.  Not the fight song and not on the field.  Many schools celebrate with their fans after games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9qUIDPo6Y

Not that I blame Mayfield at all for what he did, all OSU had to do to prevent it was not get their asses handed to them at home and he's not planting anything.
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Oh. Kinda cool, actually.

 
If I'm Cleveland I think I try to get Barkley and Mayfield, they need to be smart enough to trade back to get them both. Or just stand pat, Take Barkely at 1 and play poker that no one else wants Mayfield at 2 and 3 with Darnold, Rosen and Allen there.

 
Bronco Billy said:
I’m not the one making the claim.  The scout in the article did.  He’s making a claim that there are NFL decision makers who have Mayfield at 1.01.  I have not heard of one.  Have you?  
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The article you first questioned said this

"The scout tells Bleacher Report that, “I like Baker. We like Baker. But fans wanting him drafted first overall are off their rocker. I do think he’ll go top 10 because he’s a quarterback."

So...I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
The article you first questioned said this

"The scout tells Bleacher Report that, “I like Baker. We like Baker. But fans wanting him drafted first overall are off their rocker. I do think he’ll go top 10 because he’s a quarterback."

So...I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.
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I thought I made it clear that I feel Mayfield won’t be drafted 1.01 - not when football people are making that decision (and not fans - thanks for correcting me, I didn’t go back to read it again.  Doesn’t change my message)

 
He's considering sitting out pro day. Too many Bradford comparisons. Bradford had best day ever, impossible to beat, will only impact negatively.  His advisors don't like that all 32 teams will be present and have no intention of drafting him- the negativity from a team with no intention of drafting him could cost him. Loves the idea of invites to personal workouts with individual teams. Tried to learn Tai chee(spelling?) but wound up dancing and messing around, not for him. Plans to travel often. Advisors concerned with his rest between offseason activities want him on a beach as much as possible. Loves poker and the theories the pros use, reading books on it, advisors worried he'll show in vegas or AC. They're setting up games for him in private because they know he'll have to test what he's learned. Advisors would prefer he doesn't speak to press til after the draft. Incident about not being allowed to shoot or go mudding, he's been doing both since he was little kid. Roughly seven advisors trying to change him, protect him, and monitor him- family member, local businessman, former OU coach, his BFF, and former OU players.

 
Bri said:
He's considering sitting out pro day. Too many Bradford comparisons. Bradford had best day ever, impossible to beat, will only impact negatively.  His advisors don't like that all 32 teams will be present and have no intention of drafting him- the negativity from a team with no intention of drafting him could cost him. Loves the idea of invites to personal workouts with individual teams. Tried to learn Tai chee(spelling?) but wound up dancing and messing around, not for him. Plans to travel often. Advisors concerned with his rest between offseason activities want him on a beach as much as possible. Loves poker and the theories the pros use, reading books on it, advisors worried he'll show in vegas or AC. They're setting up games for him in private because they know he'll have to test what he's learned. Advisors would prefer he doesn't speak to press til after the draft. Incident about not being allowed to shoot or go mudding, he's been doing both since he was little kid. Roughly seven advisors trying to change him, protect him, and monitor him- family member, local businessman, former OU coach, his BFF, and former OU players.
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Where are you getting all of this information? Seems like almost too much to be completely accurate, unless you know him personally...?

 
Bri said:
He's considering sitting out pro day. Too many Bradford comparisons. Bradford had best day ever, impossible to beat, will only impact negatively.  His advisors don't like that all 32 teams will be present and have no intention of drafting him- the negativity from a team with no intention of drafting him could cost him. Loves the idea of invites to personal workouts with individual teams. Tried to learn Tai chee(spelling?) but wound up dancing and messing around, not for him. Plans to travel often. Advisors concerned with his rest between offseason activities want him on a beach as much as possible. Loves poker and the theories the pros use, reading books on it, advisors worried he'll show in vegas or AC. They're setting up games for him in private because they know he'll have to test what he's learned. Advisors would prefer he doesn't speak to press til after the draft. Incident about not being allowed to shoot or go mudding, he's been doing both since he was little kid. Roughly seven advisors trying to change him, protect him, and monitor him- family member, local businessman, former OU coach, his BFF, and former OU players.
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This entire thing is a red flag.

 
BlueDredSo said:
Where are you getting all of this information? Seems like almost too much to be completely accurate, unless you know him personally...?
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I covered the Sooners for a bit years ago. Some is from reporter friends but most is public knowledge you could get from any Sooners board. Mayfield and his people are extremely outspoken. It's his personality- this is me, accept me

 
petekrum said:
This entire thing is a red flag.
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I think it's all wonderful. A lot of honesty in dealing with a personality like his. Do you think all these college guys are choir boys? They need to be told to stay away from XYZ. To no longer do this or that because their bod is worth millions now. They have zero experience with buying homes or moving and probably food shopping and...they all gotta grow up superfast. Everyone has advisors. Just think it through and imagine from their perspective. You'll see it's a good thing

 
Bri said:
I think it's all wonderful. A lot of honesty in dealing with a personality like his. Do you think all these college guys are choir boys? They need to be told to stay away from XYZ. To no longer do this or that because their bod is worth millions now. They have zero experience with buying homes or moving and probably food shopping and...they all gotta grow up superfast. Everyone has advisors. Just think it through and imagine from their perspective. You'll see it's a good thing
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And yet I don’t see seven advisors trying to change Darnold, and Jackson and Josh Allen. 

 
Bri said:
He's considering sitting out pro day. Too many Bradford comparisons. Bradford had best day ever, impossible to beat, will only impact negatively.  His advisors don't like that all 32 teams will be present and have no intention of drafting him- the negativity from a team with no intention of drafting him could cost him. Loves the idea of invites to personal workouts with individual teams. Tried to learn Tai chee(spelling?) but wound up dancing and messing around, not for him. Plans to travel often. Advisors concerned with his rest between offseason activities want him on a beach as much as possible. Loves poker and the theories the pros use, reading books on it, advisors worried he'll show in vegas or AC. They're setting up games for him in private because they know he'll have to test what he's learned. Advisors would prefer he doesn't speak to press til after the draft. Incident about not being allowed to shoot or go mudding, he's been doing both since he was little kid. Roughly seven advisors trying to change him, protect him, and monitor him- family member, local businessman, former OU coach, his BFF, and former OU players.
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Bri said:
I think it's all wonderful. A lot of honesty in dealing with a personality like his. Do you think all these college guys are choir boys? They need to be told to stay away from XYZ. To no longer do this or that because their bod is worth millions now. They have zero experience with buying homes or moving and probably food shopping and...they all gotta grow up superfast. Everyone has advisors. Just think it through and imagine from their perspective. You'll see it's a good thing
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Assuming it's all accurate, having advisors isn't the problem.

The bolded are all red flags to some degree. But that's the thing with Baker. He doesn't have one incident that screams "do not draft" like mixon or others did before the draft. His is all personality.  If a kid can't be trusted to go shoot or mudding before the draft, that's somewhat of a problem. If he can't be trusted to act somewhat mature in Vegas or AC, that's a bigger flag. 

I guess the good thing here is Oakland isn't going to draft him. But NYC doesn't seem ideal either. 

Fwiw, I'd like the kid to succeed, he's fun to watch on the field. But you really can't read all that and think "that's great! No problems here"

 
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-OZ- said:
Assuming it's all accurate, having advisors isn't the problem.

The bolded are all red flags to some degree. But that's the thing with Baker. He doesn't have one incident that screams "do not draft" like mixon or others did before the draft. His is all personality.  If a kid can't be trusted to go shoot or mudding before the draft, that's somewhat of a problem. If he can't be trusted to act somewhat mature in Vegas or AC, that's a bigger flag. 

I guess the good thing here is Oakland isn't going to draft him. But NYC doesn't seem ideal either. 

Fwiw, I'd like the kid to succeed, he's fun to watch on the field. But you really can't read all that and think "that's great! No problems here"
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They don't want him in those places/activities because of the publicity.  He's got a ton to lose just from chatter.  They are more concerned about what the press and petekrum will be stirring up the first moment he's seen in Vegas.  "MANZIEL ALL OVER AGAIN ZOMG".

 
Hankmoody said:
They don't want him in those places/activities because of the publicity.  He's got a ton to lose just from chatter.  They are more concerned about what the press and petekrum will be stirring up the first moment he's seen in Vegas.  "MANZIEL ALL OVER AGAIN ZOMG".
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I realize my view differs from most GMs, but if we know he's inclined to go to Vegas when we sign him, I'd rather see him in Vegas a couple times now. 

Assign him a handler, a trusted agent who doesn't leave his side. Someone like a friend if he has one adults trust, or just someone a couple years older, a mentor but not one that looks like he's hanging with his dad, to ensure he doesn't do something stupid or gamble away his future earnings. 

If they see him in these settings acting maturely, that means a lot more to me than forcing him to avoid these places.

 
Bri said:
I covered the Sooners for a bit years ago. Some is from reporter friends but most is public knowledge you could get from any Sooners board.
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So pretty much the same level of credibility as any other message board or reporters - that is to say a whole lot of speculation colored by personal bias and very little to no first hand information.

 
Bri said:
He's considering sitting out pro day. Too many Bradford comparisons. Bradford had best day ever, impossible to beat, will only impact negatively. 
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I don't get why Bradford's pro-day would have any affect on Mayfield. So what if Bradford had a better showing? Mayfield is "competing" with Darnold, Rosen and Allen, not Bradford.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I don't get why Bradford's pro-day would have any affect on Mayfield. So what if Bradford had a better showing? Mayfield is "competing" with Darnold, Rosen and Allen, not Bradford.
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It's all anyone talks about in OK this time of year. I didn't live here then but apparently it was ADP and Barry before. Probably stroking their my team has the best player ego. I don't know. It's not just fans, you pick up a paper where they mention Mayfield's day and they'll point out how Bradford was amazing at his. I grew up in NJ and college basketball would be big here n there, college football never was. Being a sooner fan is like a religion or cult or something in OK. I enjoy it and thoroughly enjoy the Texas high school games when I get to go too. I guess it's hard to explain why. I do assume Ohio State, Michigan and the other big schools have a similar climate with fans being obsessed. 

 
Bri said:
It's all anyone talks about in OK this time of year. I didn't live here then but apparently it was ADP and Barry before. Probably stroking their my team has the best player ego. I don't know. It's not just fans, you pick up a paper where they mention Mayfield's day and they'll point out how Bradford was amazing at his. I grew up in NJ and college basketball would be big here n there, college football never was. Being a sooner fan is like a religion or cult or something in OK. I enjoy it and thoroughly enjoy the Texas high school games when I get to go too. I guess it's hard to explain why. I do assume Ohio State, Michigan and the other big schools have a similar climate with fans being obsessed. 
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Pro Days are for scouts, not the fans. I'm still not seeing why he would not attend because of what Bradford did.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Pro Days are for scouts, not the fans. I'm still not seeing why he would not attend because of what Bradford did.
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fans get in but yeah it is for scouts, GMs, and anyone that works for a team. There's several thousand, well I'm no good at looking at a group and guessing a number. There's a lot and it's not just scouts. I mentioned previously that even if he did very well, if he wasn't amazing, it'd be viewed as lesser than Bradford. Tried to explain the culture. It's difficult to word, sorry it's not coming across.

 
-OZ- said:
Assuming it's all accurate, having advisors isn't the problem.

The bolded are all red flags to some degree. But that's the thing with Baker. He doesn't have one incident that screams "do not draft" like mixon or others did before the draft. His is all personality.  If a kid can't be trusted to go shoot or mudding before the draft, that's somewhat of a problem. If he can't be trusted to act somewhat mature in Vegas or AC, that's a bigger flag. 

I guess the good thing here is Oakland isn't going to draft him. But NYC doesn't seem ideal either. 

Fwiw, I'd like the kid to succeed, he's fun to watch on the field. But you really can't read all that and think "that's great! No problems here"
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I guess I see your point. I think the disconnect is that people don't realize a lot of this is routine. It's just not often said who a players advisors are or what they want him to avoid. 

 
petekrum said:
And yet I don’t see seven advisors trying to change Darnold, and Jackson and Josh Allen. 
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they have em'. No doubt. I don't know four, seven, twelve, or however many but there's no doubt. They might even have a mother telling them to put clean underwear on before they go to the podium. 

Imagine a brother or best friend about to make millions at age 22 and he says to you, "don't let me screw this up." I know having a friend that is about to make millions isn't likely but just imagine that please. That's about what every draftee goes through. Moms tell them do this, Dads tell them don't do that. They employ a trainer maybe a nutritionist. What do they do with that much money? They employ a financial guy. There are all sorts of OMG what do we do reactions and changes to be made. A ramen eating beer drinking college guy is about to make million dollar decisions. Changes have to happen

 
From the horse’s mouth.  A little different story.

http://m.newsok.com/mayfield-says-hell-fully-participate-in-nfl-combine/article/5582449




NORMAN — Baker Mayfieldmade an appearance on local airwaves again, hopping on with 107.7 The Franchise on Tuesday afternoon.

Mayfield told Jerry Ramsey and former OU players Gabe Ikard and Kelly Gregg that he planned to fully participate in this month's NFL Combine.

“I'm doing it all,” he said. “It's just who I am. It's why I went down to the Senior Bowl, to participate in everything. If people want to sit out, that kind of shows where their head's (at), where their character is. They might think they're good enough to not do everything. I know I haven't made it yet.

“I'm still working to be the best that I possibly can be, and I want to show exactly what I can do. I'm going to do everything at the Combine and, based on how I run, we'll see what I do at (OU's) Pro Day. But I'm definitely throwing at Pro Day as well.”
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Soulfly3 said:
LOL, well that BS story didnt last long. 
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He said that last week Tuesday too.  It’s been out there for a little bit.  It was easy to find on the net.  Yet here we are relying on completely contradictary commentary from “sources” so that some can keep driving nails into his coffin.

I’m not here to be a Mayfield advocate.  I see what could be some very real risks to go with what I also see as some very appealing potential upside.  But some of the crap people are posting here without vetting it is discouraging.  The kid has made himself a bit of a lightning rod.  I get that.  But geez, some of this stuff is just ridiculous.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Pro Days are for scouts, not the fans. I'm still not seeing why he would not attend because of what Bradford did.
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You clearly are not a Buckeye fan haha.  In Columbus this is an official self-stroking holiday (one of a few dozen annually).

 
Bronco Billy said:
From the horse’s mouth.  A little different story.
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No it's not 

How is he saying that he may not run at his proday contradictory to me telling you his advisors are considering against it?

I noticed how you snipped part of the article and left out the part about Cali. Have you not seen the pics of him on the beach on social media? Surely I didn't mention that. 

I also noticed how you said I used the word sources. I didn't. You were too lazy to go look at sooners message boards and/or contact reporters yourself.

Enjoy Brooke. She moved from the carolinas a year or two ago and isn't usually given access. A more intelligent person would have noticed she got her story by listening to the radio not being there. I never met her but hear she's awfully nice. Maybe ask her to come post Sooner news or what she hears.

I won't be

Every thread you comment on too. If I see you and I know reporters in that city, I won't share a word.
I'll click on your profile and when you stop coming here, then maybe I will start again. I'm absolutely sick of what flamers like you did to wreck this board. Do you realize how many people your hear on the radio and see on TV used to come here?

Keep flaming me and watch what happens

 
Bri said:
No it's not 

How is he saying that he may not run at his proday contradictory to me telling you his advisors are considering against it?

I noticed how you snipped part of the article and left out the part about Cali. Have you not seen the pics of him on the beach on social media? Surely I didn't mention that. 

I also noticed how you said I used the word sources. I didn't. You were too lazy to go look at sooners message boards and/or contact reporters yourself.

Enjoy Brooke. She moved from the carolinas a year or two ago and isn't usually given access. A more intelligent person would have noticed she got her story by listening to the radio not being there. I never met her but hear she's awfully nice. Maybe ask her to come post Sooner news or what she hears.

I won't be

Every thread you comment on too. If I see you and I know reporters in that city, I won't share a word.
I'll click on your profile and when you stop coming here, then maybe I will start again. I'm absolutely sick of what flamers like you did to wreck this board. Do you realize how many people your hear on the radio and see on TV used to come here?

Keep flaming me and watch what happens
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Did you or did you not say the following in response to being asked where you got your information:

I covered the Sooners for a bit years ago. Some is from reporter friends but most is public knowledge you could get from any Sooners board. Mayfield and his people are extremely outspoken. It's his personality- this is me, accept me
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I’d comment on the rest of your post, but it’s so juvenile that it isn’t worth the time.  I guess I must have hit some kind of nerve.  You said you were a reporter, but you report 2nd and 3rd hand information and message board speculation as fact - by your own admission - and then can’t handle anyone questioning it when confronted with contradictory material coming directly from the person in question?  How does that work?

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