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i actually made that point earlier.
I must have missed your point earlier. I'm just not seeing the disrespect here.
Same here. Looks like he could be a good one. But I'm already tired of his act. Hoping he matures quickly.
What "act"? He's just being real and having fun. And being good at football. Good for him.
The cocky, grab his D, stare at coaches, put flag in opposition's symbol punk act. Like I said, I hope he grows out of it. I'm sure some people like it. I just personally can't stand people like that. A little too full of themselves. I will keep his age in mind before fully judging though.
this isnt the NHL, and this is beyond far fetched.
Well that simple not true.
Lol. He's always been so spot-on with Josh Gordon. He's basically The Onion of football analysis.
QBs have a bounty on their head?
Rookie of the year? If he takes the Browns to a winning season after not even starting the first games he should be freaking MVP. No joke.
They tied the Steelers with Tyrod. Yes they're better with Baker (a lot) but they were already improving.
1-33-1 (4-46-1 if you go back another season) before him. 7-5 with him. If the Browns knock the Ravens out of the playoffs Baker should be in the MVP conversation. Rookie of the year should be a slam dunk.
Only thing going in Saquan's favor is the semantics the title of the award can bring about. It's call Offensive Rookie of the Year. It's not necessarily the rookie "MVP". Offensive player of the year is generally stats driven. Offensive rookie of the year? No idea really. I tend to want to think of it more like I think of the MVP (Brees) award as opposed to offensive player of the year (Mahomes).
Nobody is going to argue whether Baker made the team better, he clearly did. I'm just saying the 2018 browns were better even outside the QB.
You are the one advocating intentionally trying to hurt someone. It's very child-like.
I'll go with the award that sounds the most similar.
Are you working at not getting it?
I'm not a Browns fan! Even worse for me! Redskins! I wish I was a Browns fan. Oh man. See that? No one had ever uttered those words until Baker Dangerously was there.
Young players take a while to gain confidence. Are you pretending that Mayfield is the only talent on that team? They have been hoarding draft picks for years. And Dorsey nailed it this year. Everyone in the world knew they were going to be much improved this year.
The team was regressing as the season went on. Getting rid of the problems was step one. But step two was not supposed to be an instantaneous one. It takes time to go from being that bad to this good. Unless you have a special character like this guy to lead.
Cleveland made a great pick in taking him first overall. No one is denying that. Even the ROY talk is warranted. I'd personally have him second, but wouldn't be shocked if he won it. It was the MVP mention that was mind boggling. Kind of thought someone was joking.
Oh god no. I'm just a Baker fan. Grabbed him in dynasty and just on board in general. I like the way he plays and carries himself. Reminds of Drew Brees if Drew didn't give a ####. The only thing I'm really worried about with him is The SoulCurse.
It really isnt. This team won one game in two years. And I'll only give this team credit for one win before October 29 this year. Because the Jets win was all Baker. That game was over until he came in and said this one is ours. The coaching staff simply didnt have the opportunity to poison him yet. And despite all of that we are a win tomorrow away from finishing above 500.
He has less losses than Andrew Luck and people are talking about him as a MVP candidate.
Mayfield is 18th in quarterback rating. 18th. I know it's been a while since Cleveland was competitive, but my God. Get into the top half of quarterbacks before talking MVP.
First of all, qb rating is not a good metric.
As a guy who is a fan of a team who was 0 for 51 in attempts to get a ring (Eagles), I truly appreciate and understand your excitement. This year's improvement is just the beginning. Anyone knowledgeable about football can see that Cleveland is going to be even better next year and has a very bright future. A 500 record is kind of like Super Bowl for a team that had one win in two years. And that's not meant as a dig. Going from hopeless to on the verge of playoff caliber is awesome. Especially when it's not a fluky season. It's legitimate improvement and built around a young quarterback. I find myself rooting for Cleveland in most games. And I will be again against the Ravens on Sunday. Football is going to be fun for you again. And for a long time. I'm going to bow out because I don't want my outsider opinion to seem like I'm trying to douse that excitement. Good luck on Sunday. And in 2019.
Exactly. They had gotten a bunch of talent and getting rid of a terrible head coach sure did help. Getting a good rookie QB has obviously helped as well, but to pretend that this 7-7-1 season is all Baker Mayfield is a bit of a reach.
No they aren't. Delusional Browns fans do not count. Almost no one with any objectivity considers Baker Mayfield a legitimate MVP candidate.
i think he was saying that people are considering Luck for MVP, and comparing the two QBs.
MVP talk is not real but he is a rookie playing the most difficult position so improvements tend to be judged over years and in fits and spurts meaning up-and-down performances. Mayfield is the only rookie QB who had a coaching change which tend to be disruptive to any rookie but his numbers significantly improved.
