This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Obviously he was exaggerating but there were some Browns fans that were certainly aboard the Baker Mayfield wagon only a few months ago.
And that is different from 'some' Steeler fans who on-board with Rudolph or Trubisky or who would turn the second a much better QB option comes aboard?
I guess I see AB and Stefanski as stand up guys (though Haslam not so much). They say what they mean straight out. If something must be left unsaid, that's what they do. They're not going to engage in "leaked" backstabbing.
If you are saying that there is a specific poster (or more) who fits the description, a name would help. Most times, I have found that it isn't "the same people", but rather a different voice that is now atop the soapbox. You hear a different message because that's what the climate warrants. Personally, I think Baker remains talented enough to run an offense. Further, I agree with much he has said since the season ended. Watson's on-field talent is superior, IMO, but that doesn't create a need to bash Baker.
I'm confused about Trubisky. Can you help? Aren't the other guys good enough to bridge the situation? Why sign MT for that purpose? Are they hopeful of catching lightning in a bottle, but reluctant to say so? If that's the case, will they still spend a #1 on a QB?
I’m also wondering about that. Mitch might be better than the others, but it’s marginal. And if he’s truly a “bridge guy”, aren’t they just hurting their own draft by potentially winning more games?
Haslam is a part of organization though, frankly the biggest part. I guess after trading for Watson, integrity isn't a word I would use to describe the Browns right now. That's their trade off, they have a better QB, but they aren't getting the benefit of the doubt on any moral/integrity issues.
fair enough.
At this point the Seahawks can literally get paid to take him.
Division rival trades are exceedingly rare. I would be shocked. Unless the Browns think Mayfield is so toxic that he’d actively hurt the Steelers, I just can’t see that happening. And with no leverage, it would be a mighty tough pill to swallow to have to pay say, half the salary of a division rival’s starting QB.
You think CAR is a playoff team with Mayfield?
I wouldn't say they are a playoff team for sure with Mayfield, but it would certainly bring them closer. The NFC is really open after the top few teams, I could see a scenario where the Panthers make the playoffs with a QB upgrade, and if CMC stays healthy. The Panthers started 3-0 last year, and while 2 wins were over NYJ and Hou, they also easily beat NO.
He's also significantly less professional than JimmyG, which seems important.
100% of the Lance talk is media generated. They created this narrative. They run with it. And now they're using the premise they created as the story. The team has consistently said they're happy with Lance's development. Moreover, JimmyG's press conference sure sounded like a dude who was done with the 49ers, so I very much doubt he stays regardless.
They clearly don't view him as their QB so get something while you can. He's also clearly not happy. I know I would not be happy if I were in his shoesHot Sauce Guy said:
Did the media draft Lance in the 1st, though?He's also significantly less professional than JimmyG, which seems important.
100% of the Lance talk is media generated. They created this narrative. They run with it. And now they're using the premise they created as the story. The team has consistently said they're happy with Lance's development. Moreover, JimmyG's press conference sure sounded like a dude who was done with the 49ers, so I very much doubt he stays regardless.
Maybe Mayfield goes to the Niners to back up Lance.
No, but that’s a silly argument. the media is responsible for the “Lance isn’t ready” narrative.
He was going to be the starting QB of the Browns until he & his agent started tweeting.
Has he done unprofessional stuff throughout his career, or are you just referring to his tweet when Cleveland went after Watson. I can't say that I follow Cleveland very closely, but I had never had a negative impression of him.
There’s been rumors that he’s been immature for years.
Ah, ok. Like I said, I haven't followed them that closely. I'm probably basing my thoughts too much on his commercials.
OJ made commercials, too.Ah, ok. Like I said, I haven't followed them that closely. I'm probably basing my thoughts too much on his commercials.
The things he said after the season ended were accurate, IMO. He said that expecting a 5th round rookie to block TJ Watt without help wasn't likely to succeed. He also said some of the stuff written by beat writers was "click bait". True, also! You can say that he should be mature enough to keep those things to himself, but like I keep telling people, adulthood starts at 30.
It’s more the goodbye Cleveland tweet thanking the fans, followed shortly by his agent’s letter citing Mayfield and the team having “irreconcilable differences” - all after CLE had publicly stated they were out on Watson.
TB is interesting. Bruce Arians was a Mayfield fan, and was said to be very interested in him if Brady had stayed retired.
Based on recent comments, I’m not sure Carroll sees Mayfield as that much of an upgrade to Geno Smith that it’s worth a 2nd. I could see them paying a 3rd.
Geno Smith isn’t even on the Seattle roster - and Pete Carroll says a lot of stuff most people know isn’t true. Geno Smith is horrible and starting him would only be optimal if they decided to tank the season.
I don’t really see it. They spent a 2nd round pick on Trask. They re-signed Gabbert. Mayfield is a free agent after the season. If Tom retires after 2022 they can just pursue Baker then if they want him.
I agree with doubtful but I also disagree that they can pursue him after the season if they want. People’s opinion of Mayfield aside, if/when he gets traded, I would imagine a new contract is also signed.
What type of contract extension do the Bucs sign Mayfield to right now if he's an obvious backup in 2022? If Carolina or Seattle want to sign him to average starter money and extend him more power to them. 2nd contract QB money is kind of wild right now. If they wanted to trade for him and start him I'd want to see how he does as my starter in 2022 before I did that. Wouldn't you?
I already agreed TB was not a likely option. The second part is a bit tougher. Why would you trade for a guy you plan to start and if he does well, has the option to walk away at the end of the year?
I also think in these situations IF the player comes in and revives his career he'd want to mutually agree with the organization on an extension. If he went to the Panthers, played great, and made the playoffs I'd think he'd want to stay there to build on the success.
No idea what an extension would cost, but a franchise tag would currently be about 30M.
