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Seahawks don’t want to win this year, though.-jb- said:
Detroit has Jared Goff as their starting QB. The Lions took on Goff's contract that balloons to $30 million next year.
Can the lions dump Goff? I didn’t think so, but if they can then maybe. Otherwise they’re almost a lock to look for a QB next draft. Unfortunately for them, they’ll probably be picking outside the top 5. (Which I suppose makes Baker a more viable option)
But Goff played well & DET seems happy with him as a “bridge” QB.
Except again, Seattle appears to want to have a high pick in ‘23.
Any idea what salary cap moves would need to be made to do some sort of Goff / baker swap? Assuming the lions have interest.
Probably right. Not sure if they need him in CLE though - I’d expect run-1st offense in CLE regardless. Brissett can hand it off as well as Mayfield.
They’d only make the deal if they think Baker can reach his potential. I don’t think it happens, just thinking on the page.
Baker could be very good in Seattle. Not RW by any stretch but good enough to be competitive in a good division.
I would be okay with Baker in Seattle but only if they can get him without blinking first in the staring contest with Cleveland.
As a fan, I think I would rather Seattle just lose than pay whatever fair is (if those are the two choices). If the price is right however, I think he's vastly superior to what they have on the roster right now. He's still young, has experience and has been good in stretches. I'm way less bearish on Mayfield than Wentz.
It makes literally zero sense for the Panthers to trade for a one year rental of baker.
It does if Rhule thinks hes going to get fired and doesn't think Darnold will help him keep his job.
I agree but that doesn’t really mean anything. Teams do things that make zero sense all the time. I stopped a long time ago trying to logically justify football moves.
Sure, but wiser heads must prevail in that situation. Giving up more assets to keep throwing crap against the wall trying to save your job is insanity. The exact definition of insanity. Rhule traded for Darnold, has talked up darnold, has said darnold is a starting QB in this league. Now go make it work rhule or else but for Gods sake lets keep our draft capital
It isn't going to cost much in draft capital to acquire Baker and a healthy motivated Baker with a chip on his shoulder is substantially better than Darnold. There are a lot of good reasons to be skeptical sustained success can be attained with Baker as we've seen him to this point, but that doesn't matter to decision makers that need to win now and lack the resources to do it.
Giving up anything is stupid IMO because its a one year rental. Say Baker does win 8-10 games, then what do the panthers do?
That's a (good) problem for Matt Rhule, among others (from their perspective), to visit 6-8 months from now because the regime survived another year.
I mean maybe I guess, but its not a good problem for the franchise. Hitching your wagon to a guy like Mayfield is a great way to get your entire front office fired. And I dont think 8-10 wins necessarily saves his job. Furthermore I think with the Panthers roster and their schedule that this is another 5 win team. There is literally no depth at any position outside of maybe cornerback.
The problem for the franchise was giving Rhule another year. They and their fans now have to deal with the consequences of leadership that has given no reason to believe they are the answer and have to win to save themselves. It happens every year throughout the league - the Bears with Nagy and Jets with Gase immediately come to mind. Will Rhule be able to persuade management & ownership to make this move?
But they created the environment for him to try by not pulling the plug on him 6 months ago.Trust me brother I am well aware that Rhule is in over his head. Well aware. I just hope his parting gift isnt giving up more assets from the draft from a nincompoop like Mayfield and then giving that dummy a 5 year dealThe problem for the franchise was giving Rhule another year. They and their fans now have to deal with the consequences of leadership that has given no reason to believe they are the answer and have to win to save themselves. It happens every year throughout the league - the Bears with Nagy and Jets with Gase immediately come to mind. Will Rhule be able to persuade management & ownership to make this move?
