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QB Brock Purdy, SF (7 Viewers)

This might not be the right place, but I will ask anyway! Would you give Rhamondre for Purdy in a start-two QB, start-12-players dynasty? It's a TRUE start two QB league, no superflex. QBs are GOLD in this format. Thoughts?
I love Rhamondre, probably more than most, and I think I would do this in a heartbeat. I don't have nearly the same history with SF as I do start 1 leagues, but this feels like a steal value wise. I don't see any reason SF would move on from Purdy anytime soon. And with the team they have, I don't see them even having a high enough pick in the near future to take a swing at anyone that could even reasonably challenge him.
Especially since he has never lost a game when he has not blown out his elbow. I own this guy nowhere, but it is so obvious that he is the real deal.
My only SF leagues are redraft until we convert my longest running dynasty to SF this offseason. I can tell you right now, Purdy will be a sneaky target of mine. I'm hoping rookie fever sweeps through my league and I can snag guys like him, Goff, Love (yes even after that miserable performance lol) for less than they should be going for because of it.
Agreed. I've been kicking myself for not getting Purdy while he was cheap this offseason. My bets were on Lance, and it blinded me. Purdy is 100% propped up by the talent around him, but he's making the most of it and proving he's legit regardless.
 
Through 4 games, Purdy has completed 72.3% of his passes, throwing for 1,019 yards, 7 total touchdowns (5 pass, 2 rush), and zero interceptions.
 
Many folks are going to keep doubting this guy all the way to the NFC championship, and maybe beyond. He may not be the most physically gifted/athletic guy, but that doesn't have to be/shouldn't be part of the job description. He's doing what he is asked to, and then some, in a very complicated offense. I can't imagine they'd be anywhere close to where they are had they continued to let Lance run with it.
 
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Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.

SF IMO is the frontrunner to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Who knows on the elite question. He’s so young and seems to have a great mind. He’s in the perfect system and has insane talent around him. Since getting the starting gig he has been a strong value in fantasy. Pretty much free this year and the last. It’s hard for me to believe he’ll ever be dud because of the offense he runs. I’ll take my 20/week and be happy because rolling with him allows me to be very strong everywhere else. Purdy is currently the 11th ranked QB. He has presented great value at the position along with guys like Cousins, Love, Russ and Stroud.
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.

SF IMO is the frontrunner to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Who knows on the elite question. He’s so young and seems to have a great mind. He’s in the perfect system and has insane talent around him. Since getting the starting gig he has been a strong value in fantasy. Pretty much free this year and the last. It’s hard for me to believe he’ll ever be dud because of the offense he runs. I’ll take my 20/week and be happy because rolling with him allows me to be very strong everywhere else. Purdy is currently the 11th ranked QB. He has presented great value at the position along with guys like Cousins, Love, Russ and Stroud.
He’s been a heck of a start every week at QB2 at a very cheap price in SuperFlex leagues.

I have Cousins, Purdy and Mayfield as depth who were all relatively inexpensive in auction, and they are returning good/great value.
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.
Not saying he's the next Brady, but wouldn't everyone have said the same thing about Brady in his second year? He didn't totally shed the "game manager" label and emerge as an elite QB until 2007.

Again, not saying he'll follow Brady's path. Just that we still don't know what the finished product will look like
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.
Not saying he's the next Brady, but wouldn't everyone have said the same thing about Brady in his second year? He didn't totally shed the "game manager" label and emerge as an elite QB until 2007.

Again, not saying he'll follow Brady's path. Just that we still don't know what the finished product will look like

Going by Pro Football Reference, Brady was outside the Top 10 during his first three full seasons staring. Then finished second, sixth and first during 2005-2007.
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.
Not saying he's the next Brady, but wouldn't everyone have said the same thing about Brady in his second year? He didn't totally shed the "game manager" label and emerge as an elite QB until 2007.

Again, not saying he'll follow Brady's path. Just that we still don't know what the finished product will look like
I agree with you on how Brady was viewed for much of his early career. I'm not ready to put Purdy in that category (no one rational would) but every game I've watched him play I've come away impressed. He understands the game, his offense, and what defenses are trying to do. Could he become much more than a game manager? Of course, he already is IMO, but just like Brady it will take time to overcome the game manager title due to his draft position and pre-season expectations. If he keeps this up, everyone will be forced to recognize not only the results, but the overall package of talent.
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.
Not saying he's the next Brady, but wouldn't everyone have said the same thing about Brady in his second year? He didn't totally shed the "game manager" label and emerge as an elite QB until 2007.

Again, not saying he'll follow Brady's path. Just that we still don't know what the finished product will look like

Going by Pro Football Reference, Brady was outside the Top 10 during his first three full seasons staring. Then finished second, sixth and first during 2005-2007.
I definitely wasn't aware of any advanced stats at the time, so my only frame of reference is that I was playing fantasy back then, and IIRC he was generally a mid-round pick during those years. Looking at his stats, his high in TDs prior to 2007 was 28, he only topped 4K yards once, and he had double-digit INTs every year.

Of course, he was playing in a much-less pass-happy league, and during those years he never had anything close to the weapons Purdy has now
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB, but he's perfect for what SF wants to do. And all he does is win games.
Not saying he's the next Brady, but wouldn't everyone have said the same thing about Brady in his second year? He didn't totally shed the "game manager" label and emerge as an elite QB until 2007.

Again, not saying he'll follow Brady's path. Just that we still don't know what the finished product will look like
I agree with you on how Brady was viewed for much of his early career. I'm not ready to put Purdy in that category (no one rational would) but every game I've watched him play I've come away impressed. He understands the game, his offense, and what defenses are trying to do. Could he become much more than a game manager? Of course, he already is IMO, but just like Brady it will take time to overcome the game manager title due to his draft position and pre-season expectations. If he keeps this up, everyone will be forced to recognize not only the results, but the overall package of talent.
Yes, this is exactly the point I was trying to make. A year ago, no one knew anything about him. Now we view him as a solid QB who's doing well in the context of an offensive genius coach and amazing weapons. Our views of him may continue to evolve, positively or negatively.
 
This kid’s off to an amazing start of an NFL career. It’s a real shame he got injured early in the NFC Championship Game. It would have be interesting to see if he could’ve won that game and the Super Bowl. Now we’ll never know.
 
Jack Hammer
Kyle Shanahan’s response to those who say that Brock Purdy is still largely a product of the system:“That's pretty ridiculous. You’ve just got to watch the tape. He plays at a high level every time he is been out there. And he's done it in a lot of different situations versus a lot of different defenses, on the road, at home, playoff games, when injured. You can't do all that stuff, he's been out there too long. It's on tape
”Great question by
@sportslarryk
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB

How do you know?
Well, he doesn't run the ball that much, for starters.

Maybe I should rephrase. Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB given this situation in SF. The best player SF has on offense is CMC, so the offense will go through him. As long as SF has CMC and a good defense.....Purdy will never need to take over the game.

That said, Purdy is a still a good fantasy QB in that he's consistent and doesn't turn the ball over. He's a great QB2 in superflex.
 
Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB

How do you know?
Well, he doesn't run the ball that much, for starters.

Maybe I should rephrase. Purdy will never be an elite fantasy QB given this situation in SF. The best player SF has on offense is CMC, so the offense will go through him. As long as SF has CMC and a good defense.....Purdy will never need to take over the game.

That said, Purdy is a still a good fantasy QB in that he's consistent and doesn't turn the ball over. He's a great QB2 in superflex.
I think that's fair. Without that rushing equity, that's definitely going to cap his upside even if the defense falls off and Purdy is forced to air it out more. Think about Brady's 2020 season, in which he had 4600 yards and 40 TDs - he was still only #8 among QB scoring that year. In the next year, Brady upped that to 5300/43, but that still only made him neck and neck with Josh Allen for #1 QB overall. Nowadays, you need that rushing equity at the position to elevate fantasy wise.

But as mentioned, he's a terrific QB2 in Superflex if you have a strong #1.
 
49ers QB Brock Purdy admits he still has roommate, splits rent.

"So, I still have a roommate, one of the offensive linemen here," Purdy recently revealed on the TODAY Show. "So he and I are still splitting rent. I still drive my Toyota Sequoia and other than that, it's pretty simple."

Purdy’s salary is $870,000, and the Bay Area isn't necessarily the most affordable place to live. Sure, the quarterback probably could find his own place to live, but like on the football field, Purdy is being smart with his finances.

That is until he's able to negotiate a new contract in another two years or so.

 
49ers QB Brock Purdy admits he still has roommate, splits rent.

"So, I still have a roommate, one of the offensive linemen here," Purdy recently revealed on the TODAY Show. "So he and I are still splitting rent. I still drive my Toyota Sequoia and other than that, it's pretty simple."

Purdy’s salary is $870,000, and the Bay Area isn't necessarily the most affordable place to live. Sure, the quarterback probably could find his own place to live, but like on the football field, Purdy is being smart with his finances.

That is until he's able to negotiate a new contract in another two years or so.


He sounds smart off the field too.
 
Barnwell the other day. Figured I'd dismantle a paywall and post this for public consumption. This is the quarter-season MVP rankings. Tua was number one.

2. Brock Purdy, QB, 49ers

I don't think it's possible to have McCaffrey and Purdy in the top three for MVP balloting, but one of them has to be in the mix given how consistent and dominant the 49ers have been on offense. I've already made the argument for McCaffrey as Offensive Player of the Year and would have no qualms about anybody picking him as the best MVP candidate on the roster as well.
What I keep coming back to with Purdy, though, is how much of our opinion has been formed by how he entered the league. Since Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant and the third choice for the 49ers at quarterback, it's easy to write him off as a product of his surroundings, a passer blessed to fall into a lineup with McCaffrey, Deebo Samuel, George Kittle, Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams, and to throw for the league's best playcaller in Kyle Shanahan. And obviously, there's nobody arguing against the idea Purdy is in a great situation.

Purdy has now started 12 games between the regular season and postseason, though. One of them ended when his right elbow exploded. The other 11 have been 49ers wins. Jimmy Garoppolo & Co. weren't winning 100% of the time. Purdy's numbers are superior to what Garoppolo was doing in San Francisco. He has outplayed Trey Lance, Nick Mullens, C.J. Beathard and all of the other various quarterbacks the Niners have had in the Shanahan era. And while they didn't have McCaffrey, Josh Johnson did play in the NFC Championship Game, and he wasn't able to recreate what Purdy has done or come close.

The scary thing for people doubting Purdy is he has taken a significant leap forward through four games this season. His completion percentage (72.3%) has jumped five points. He's averaging a full yard more per throw (9.1). His success rate as a passer is up from 50% to 57.1%. After throwing for first downs on just under 39% of his attempts last season, he is north of 48% this season, which is the best mark in football. He also has yet to throw an interception this season, one of just three four-game starters to avoid throwing a pick alongside C.J. Stroud and Joshua Dobbs.
Purdy has gotten away with a couple of dropped picks, and he has fumbled four times, losing one. Interceptions are inevitably going to start popping up. The only real hole you can poke in his performance, relative to other quarterbacks, is he just hasn't needed to throw often. He's averaging 28 pass attempts per game, while Herbert's up at 36.3 and our No. 1 passer is at 34.
Given that Purdy is leading the league in QBR and adjusted yards per attempt and has had the 49ers in position for double-digit leads in the fourth quarter of each of their first four games, should we be blaming him for killing off games before the final few drives? He's tied for 32nd in passes thrown in the fourth quarter because the job has been done, not because the 49ers don't want him to throw. Even with some sort of Shanahan/McCaffrey discount, Purdy has been one of the league's best quarterbacks.
 
The scary thing for people doubting Purdy is he has taken a significant leap forward through four games this season. His completion percentage (72.3%) has jumped five points. He's averaging a full yard more per throw (9.1). His success rate as a passer is up from 50% to 57.1%. After throwing for first downs on just under 39% of his attempts last season, he is north of 48% this season, which is the best mark in football. He also has yet to throw an interception this season, one of just three four-game starters to avoid throwing a pick
I said all offseason I thought he would take a step forward this season, while so many predicted regression. And if he keeps getting better? Scary.

He hasn't even really had any growing pains yet, other than a few throws that coulda/shoulda been picked. It's pretty remarkable.
 
Is he at best Alex Smith or do some see him more then a smart game manager? I didn't mean the Alex comparison as a negative.
 
The 49ers are one of the teams that made the playoffs last season that I think can miss the playoff this year.

You have to live in a fantasy world if you think the 49ers QB room has anyone in it that can lead them to the Superbowl.

Update?
I'm in the top percentile of Purdy supporters but it's early for victory laps.
Victory laps. Lol.

I just asked if his opinion has changed.
 
The 49ers are one of the teams that made the playoffs last season that I think can miss the playoff this year.

You have to live in a fantasy world if you think the 49ers QB room has anyone in it that can lead them to the Superbowl.

Update?
I'm in the top percentile of Purdy supporters but it's early for victory laps.

I still don't think he's that good. His deep balls are pretty meh. He doesn't have NFL arm strength for the sideline throws. He's asked to throw the ball in short and intermediate routes and allow the skill position talent around him to do the rest. As far as the playoffs go, I under-estimated how completely mediocre the NFL is this year.
 
The 49ers are one of the teams that made the playoffs last season that I think can miss the playoff this year.

You have to live in a fantasy world if you think the 49ers QB room has anyone in it that can lead them to the Superbowl.

Update?

Will probably make the playoffs. Won't win Superbowl.
So you don't think he's capable of leading his team to the Superbowl. Got it.
 
The 49ers are one of the teams that made the playoffs last season that I think can miss the playoff this year.

You have to live in a fantasy world if you think the 49ers QB room has anyone in it that can lead them to the Superbowl.

Update?
I'm in the top percentile of Purdy supporters but it's early for victory laps.

I still don't think he's that good. His deep balls are pretty meh. He doesn't have NFL arm strength for the sideline throws. He's asked to throw the ball in short and intermediate routes and allow the skill position talent around him to do the rest. As far as the playoffs go, I under-estimated how completely mediocre the NFL is this year.
Even if he wins a SB you won't be a believer, so theres no point in discussing it further. Good day.
 
The 49ers are one of the teams that made the playoffs last season that I think can miss the playoff this year.

You have to live in a fantasy world if you think the 49ers QB room has anyone in it that can lead them to the Superbowl.

Update?
I'm in the top percentile of Purdy supporters but it's early for victory laps.

I still don't think he's that good. His deep balls are pretty meh. He doesn't have NFL arm strength for the sideline throws. He's asked to throw the ball in short and intermediate routes and allow the skill position talent around him to do the rest. As far as the playoffs go, I under-estimated how completely mediocre the NFL is this year.
Even if he wins a SB you won't be a believer, so theres no point in discussing it further. Good day.

You asked my opinion, I gave it, you don't like it. I pointed out the areas that I think he's not very good in. You've pointed out...well...nothing actually. See a discussion is when one person says something and another person replies.
 

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