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QB C.J. Stroud, HOU (1 Viewer)

I guess the one thing that could have changed is teams started to meet with him and didn't care for his personality
It’s weird that it never came up once in his entire college career. All I’d ever heard from coaches was what a hard worker and dedicated kid he was.
Sure but what are the coaches going to say? They have to hype their guys.
Sure but teammates too?

Someone woulda said something.
 
I am so confused by the CJ Stroud "narrative"
IKR?

What’s changed since he lit up the Peach Bowl?

I just don’t get it.
How can anyone be more excited about Levis than Stroud? I don't get it.
Much bigger arm, better mobility, possibly better interview. Not saying Levis is a better prospect, but if those are what you value, I can see preferring Levis or Richardson. Personally, I have all 3 in the same tier.
 
Much bigger arm, better mobility, possibly better interview. Not saying Levis is a better prospect, but if those are what you value, I can see preferring Levis or Richardson. Personally, I have all 3 in the same tier.
Better mobility is the part I challenge. Levis is disaster without a pocket. If there is pressure, he finds it.
 

Ohio State QB C.J. Stroud is visiting with the Falcons.​

Stroud's visit with the Falcons, who have the eighth pick in the upcoming NFL Draft, comes as Bryce Young has become the overwhelming favorite to be taken as the first player off the board and the Texans -- who have the second overall pick -- seem hesitant to take Stroud or any other QB that early. In such a scenario, Stroud could call to Atlanta. The Falcons would be foolish to pass on Stroud unless the front office and Arthur Smith truly believe Desmond Ridder is the answer under center. Ridder had the league's seventh worst completion rate over expected in last season's final five weeks.
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That would be a great landing spot. Historically successful franchise, elite talent on offense with London/Pitts.

ATL would likely have to jump to 3.
Lipstick on a pig. :-)
 
I am so confused by the CJ Stroud "narrative"
IKR?

What’s changed since he lit up the Peach Bowl?

I just don’t get it.
How can anyone be more excited about Levis than Stroud? I don't get it.
Upside. Pure upside. Stroud is a reasonable bet to be a mid tier starter but unlikely to be elite. Levis has that elite upside but not likely to hit. 🤷
I agree. Stroud falls on the Goff-Stafford spectrum (with better run capability), and I would rate him highly were I a GM who thought they could build a 3 or 4 year Super Bowl run on the back of a rookie QB contract. Donovan McNabb II, maybe

Levis feels like 80/20 - Bust/Roethlisberger.
 
I am so confused by the CJ Stroud "narrative"
IKR?

What’s changed since he lit up the Peach Bowl?

I just don’t get it.
How can anyone be more excited about Levis than Stroud? I don't get it.
Upside. Pure upside. Stroud is a reasonable bet to be a mid tier starter but unlikely to be elite. Levis has that elite upside but not likely to hit. 🤷
Stop it. When Levis was Stroud's age, he was riding the pine.
 
Much bigger arm, better mobility, possibly better interview. Not saying Levis is a better prospect, but if those are what you value, I can see preferring Levis or Richardson. Personally, I have all 3 in the same tier.
Better mobility is the part I challenge. Levis is disaster without a pocket. If there is pressure, he finds it.
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
 
I agree. Stroud falls on the Goff - Stafford spectrum (with better run capability), and I would rate him highly were I a GM who thought they could build a 3 or 4 year Super Bowl run on the back of a rookie QB contract. Donovan McNabb II, maybe

Levis feels like 80/20 - Bust/Roethlisberger
That is fair. Goff and Stafford have made Pro Bowls and Super Bowls. However, Levis isn't worthy of watching Ben highlights on Youtube.
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the run and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
 
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I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
Sure, but your QB1 is 2’9”, 87 LBs. Rumor has it he was in jeopardy of being stepped on & crushed by Mina Kimes immediately after that photo was taken of them.
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
Bolded --> Is it possible Fields/Stroud are more products of the OSU Coaching to "limit" the free range running QB?
-to prevent injury to QB
- running QB is not the OC plans/strength
- to prevent loss of Offense game plan
- simple to "control" things

Inquiring minds want to know if it was more OSU staff vs QB decisions to not run when opportunity presented?
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
Bolded --> Is it possible Fields/Stroud are more products of the OSU Coaching to "limit" the free range running QB?
-to prevent injury to QB
- running QB is not the OC plans/strength
- to prevent loss of Offense game plan
- simple to "control" things

Inquiring minds want to know if it was more OSU staff vs QB decisions to not run when opportunity presented?
I believe so. Why run when you have JSN, Harrison, Wilson, Olave, McLaurin, etc ?
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
I’m seeing Hooker as a media propped up QB like basically all of last years class.
 
okay this might be the reason. not sure of the validity of said twitter user but...

Shane P. Hallam
@ShanePHallam


S2 Cognition test results per
@BobMcGinn
: Bryce Young - 98% Jake Haener - 96% Will Levis - 93% Jaren Hall - 93% Clayton Tune - 84% Anthony Richardson - 79% Hendon Hooker - 46% CJ Stroud - 18%


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Are the S2 scores all officially ever released somewhere, or is it up to the players to release them? I know Young's and Levis' were reported, but can see why Stroud wouldn't release his if this is accurate. Seems crazy to me that a player at his success level in college would score an 18.

Oh, and bump Jake Haener.
 
I meant mobility as in as a rushing threat.

As far as mobility as in pocket movement, I'd honestly say both Levis and Stroud are iffy. That's the part where I think Young really separates from the pack. Richardson is pretty good there as well, though that is mostly because he can outrun anybody chasing him more than anything else.

ETA: Both Levis and Stroud are better at pocket movement than Hooker at least, who is the guy who I'd call a disaster if there is pressure.
Levis was sacked on like 1/3 of the times he was pressured, worst of this group. And he's the oldest. Stroud didn't run much but against Northwestern when there were 60+ mph winds, he ran an RPO offense pretty well, ran for 78 yards. Against Georgia, he threw off the ran and ran for yards consistently.

I agree, I don't see it with Hooker. I bet he falls to the 4th.
As much as certain parts of his tape, and age/injury situation may call for it, I'd be shocked if Hooker fell out of round 2 at this point. But yeah, I really don't get it with him at all, hell I like McKee more than him even.

Its possible Stroud is more mobile than I'm giving him credit for, after all Ohio State kept Justin Fields in the pocket too, and while Stroud is obviously nowhere near that mobile, he could be used in that manner more in the pros.

A-F prospect scale, I've had Stroud as a B all along. I think Levis and Richardson have higher ceilings, but a lot more work to do to get there, especially Levis. Really comes down to how much a GM/HC believe in their developmental process. But to me, that is why I've never gotten Stroud to Carolina, just doesn't seem right to trade up to #1 giving up 2 1sts and a pro bowl caliber WR, for a lower ceiling guy. Young always made sense, and honestly Richardson even makes more sense (maybe sitting behind Dalton for a little) than Stroud to me, though it feels less likely.
Bolded --> Is it possible Fields/Stroud are more products of the OSU Coaching to "limit" the free range running QB?
-to prevent injury to QB
- running QB is not the OC plans/strength
- to prevent loss of Offense game plan
- simple to "control" things

Inquiring minds want to know if it was more OSU staff vs QB decisions to not run when opportunity presented?
I believe so. Why run when you have JSN, Harrison, Wilson, Olave, McLaurin, etc ?
IMO the Peach Bowl answered any remaining questions about Stroud’s mobility & willingness to use his legs.

It’s pretty apparent that OSU didn’t want him to run.
 
Are the S2 scores all officially ever released somewhere, or is it up to the players to release them? I know Young's and Levis' were reported, but can see why Stroud wouldn't release his if this is accurate. Seems crazy to me that a player at his success level in college would score an 18.

Oh, and bump Jake Haener.
The entire history of success of this test is that Brock Purdy did well on it, and he looked good for half a season. It may well prove to be worth something, check back in 2035.

“I’ve been told that he committed to [the Manning Passing Academy] the night before, [and] just kind of ghosted them, didn’t show up,” Quinn said. “That’s football royalty. And when you do that, that’s going to set off some alarms for people like, ‘Hey man, that’s not how you conduct yourself, especially around the Manning family, or just in general if you’re going to be a franchise quarterback.’”
Can you imagine: You have been working to be a pro QB, there are millions you can never make back with every draft slot you might fall, and Brady freaking Quinn is questioning whether you behave like a franchise QB because he "heard" you ghosted a football camp run by the Mannings, and how dare you do this to the Mannings?

It wasn't true, and Stroud hadn't committed, and wound up spending the time working out with teammates . This is a negative story on about Stroud. Absolutely crazy.

Moral of the story, question negative narratives that "appear" before the draft.

And don't follow Dov Kleinman.
 
Can you imagine: You have been working to be a pro QB, there are millions you can never make back with every draft slot you might fall, and Brady freaking Quinn is questioning whether you behave like a franchise QB because he "heard" you ghosted a football camp run by the Mannings, and how dare you do this to the Mannings?

It wasn't true, and Stroud hadn't committed, and wound up spending the time working out with teammates . This is a negative story on about Stroud. Absolutely crazy.

Moral of the story, question negative narratives that "appear" before the draft.

And don't follow Dov Kleinman.
Every year people fall for this bull****.

Every year reporters stenographers dutifully spread this bull**** around, without once questioning the validity.

Remarkable.
 
Also, big fan of:

Stround scouting report: Oh sure he has pinpoint accuracy, but what can he do when the play breaks down? Might be a deal-breaker.

Anthony Richardson scouting report: Oh sure he makes magic when a play breaks down, but where's the pinpoint accuracy? Might be a deal-breaker.
 
okay this might be the reason. not sure of the validity of said twitter user but...

Shane P. Hallam
@ShanePHallam


S2 Cognition test results per
@BobMcGinn
: Bryce Young - 98% Jake Haener - 96% Will Levis - 93% Jaren Hall - 93% Clayton Tune - 84% Anthony Richardson - 79% Hendon Hooker - 46% CJ Stroud - 18%


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Are the S2 scores all officially ever released somewhere, or is it up to the players to release them? I know Young's and Levis' were reported, but can see why Stroud wouldn't release his if this is accurate. Seems crazy to me that a player at his success level in college would score an 18.

Oh, and bump Jake Haener.
46 and 18 aren't good scores. These are impactful, right? How much will these scores affect Hooker and Stroud?
 
Found this ... S2 Cognitive Test

It appears the Panthers GM Fritter's on board: "it is just another tool we use, something we believe in though"

Example: "the test seeks to find out how many objects an athlete can keep track of at the same time. In another, there are 22 figures on the screen and the athlete must locate a specific one as quickly as possible. The object might be a red triangle embedded in other shapes that are also red."
 
Stroud's fall seems linked to the S2, right or wrong...

“The S2 people will say, ‘Hey, guys that graded high on this test don’t always play well,’” one club executive said, “’But, we’ve never had somebody grade low and play well.’

That’s hard-hitting stuff right there. :oldunsure:

I guess they mean “other than his entire HS & college career?”

According to S2, the 30-to-45 minute exercise is conducted on what The Athletic’s Matt Barrows in February described as a “specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds.” It measures how players process and make split-second decisions. “Anticipating, reading, reacting and adapting to the game are measurable skills,” the website offers.

Here’s my thought on this: Stroud has more than proved his football acumen, quick decision-making, and twitch reflexes on the field.

Going by this test to knock him from 1.01 to apparently off some teams draft boards seems ludicrous.

If I’m drafting a dude to play Madden, Young absolutely aced this test.

If I’m drafting a dude to be a franchise QB, gimme the comparable arm at 6’3”, 218.

I know Brock Purdy bumped the stock price for this company a lot, but if this test is what is tanking Stroud’s draft stock, folks are putting way too much into it.
 
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REPORT: “Stroud scored 18,” an #NFL executive said: “That is like red alert, red alert, you can’t take a guy like that. That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that’s ever done it in the league.”

When another executive was informed that Stroud scored extremely low, he said that it confirmed what he had seen on tape, per and via @BobMcGinn:

“That was my concern with him,” the scout said. “His personality is just sort of calm and mellow and laidback, and that’s the way he plays. You look at how Bryce Young plays and how Stroud plays, I don’t see how anyone can look at those two play football and you’d want that guy (Stroud) over Young. Bryce’s mind is so quick and he processes so fast. Whereas with Stroud, everything is much, much more programmed.”

One NFC executive described the S2 as a “great test.” Said an AFC executive: “For quarterbacks, it’s been pretty good,” another executive said S2 made inroads early in its existence testing hitters for major league baseball clubs.

“Then they started doing it in football,” the executive said. “If you get a high score as a quarterback it’s not saying you’re going to be a great player. But if you get a low score, it’s 100% — none of the quarterbacks that got a low score became good players.

 
What year was it when “processing speed” became the “think outside the box” of the NFL draft?

Last couple of years for sure, this is very new.
 
What year was it when “processing speed” became the “think outside the box” of the NFL draft?

Last couple of years for sure, this is very new.

‘Ability to operate out of structure’ is another one I feel like I have heard so much, only in the last few years. But perhaps I just wasn’t paying as much attention before that, and that’s the real reason
 
If CJ is not gone by 5, Seattle would be more than happy to roll out the carpet. He's a total gamer, loves football, has risen above a dismal childhood with his dad serving 30yrs since he was in grade 8.....and now he's got the football world slagging him for some video game test.
 
Found this ... S2 Cognitive Test

It appears the Panthers GM Fritter's on board: "it is just another tool we use, something we believe in though"

Example: "the test seeks to find out how many objects an athlete can keep track of at the same time. In another, there are 22 figures on the screen and the athlete must locate a specific one as quickly as possible. The object might be a red triangle embedded in other shapes that are also red."
It is surely a step up from that dumb wonderlic, but there is not enough data for me to even consider that yet. How long has this been around? 3-4 years?
 
REPORT: “Stroud scored 18,” an #NFL executive said: “That is like red alert, red alert, you can’t take a guy like that. That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that’s ever done it in the league.”

When another executive was informed that Stroud scored extremely low, he said that it confirmed what he had seen on tape, per and via @BobMcGinn:

“That was my concern with him,” the scout said. “His personality is just sort of calm and mellow and laidback, and that’s the way he plays. You look at how Bryce Young plays and how Stroud plays, I don’t see how anyone can look at those two play football and you’d want that guy (Stroud) over Young. Bryce’s mind is so quick and he processes so fast. Whereas with Stroud, everything is much, much more programmed.”

One NFC executive described the S2 as a “great test.” Said an AFC executive: “For quarterbacks, it’s been pretty good,” another executive said S2 made inroads early in its existence testing hitters for major league baseball clubs.

“Then they started doing it in football,” the executive said. “If you get a high score as a quarterback it’s not saying you’re going to be a great player. But if you get a low score, it’s 100% — none of the quarterbacks that got a low score became good players.

Interesting for sure. Tough tojudge without the data but also a bunch of anonymous people holds little weight with me.
 
If CJ is not gone by 5, Seattle would be more than happy to roll out the carpet. He's a total gamer, loves football, has risen above a dismal childhood with his dad serving 30yrs since he was in grade 8.....and now he's got the football world slagging him for some video game test.
Right. I will take my chances on a QB with prototypical size, above average athleticism, good arm, excellent accuracy, elite college production and his one flaw being he scored poorly on this new test.
 
https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-pro-execs-scouts-coaches-rank-and-evaluate-the-qb-class

The Buckeyes lost just four of Stroud’s 25 starts, though two of those defeats came against rival Michigan. Stroud took the S2 Cognition test multiple times and posted low scores, but coaches who have watched the tape and put Stroud on the board were impressed with his processing ability. He has displayed toughness, starting all 12 games in 2021 despite separating the AC joint in his right (throwing) shoulder in the season opener. And as pure passers go, Stroud is one of the best in this class.



“You saw in the Georgia game he’s probably more athletic than people gave him credit for,” another NFC coordinator said. “Good arm talent. I think he’s good mechanically. And demeanor-wise, he’s a lot more likeable than I thought he was going to be. You watch his game-day demeanor -- he seems real standoffish, no personality. And he was like the exact opposite in person. Cool as hell, great communication skills, good recall. He can process. Ball kind of comes easy to him.”
 

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