They wouldn't. Which is why Deshaun won't get traded until his legal matters/league status are settled and teams know exactly whether Deshaun will be available to play for them.Why would any team offer multiple first round picks for a guy being accused of sexual misconduct by 22 different women?
So last year the Texans were in a position to get an enormous return on Deshaun Watson before the sexual allegations came out. Two of the main teams interested in Deshaun were the Dolphins and Jets. They both had high 1st round picks, they both had multiple first round picks, they both were places Deshaun wanted to go, and they played in the same division so there was motivation to get Deshaun so the other team in the division wouldn't. Of course that all went away with the sexual allegations.
If we look forward to next off season and assume all legal matters have been resolved (not necessarily a safe assumption but go with me on this), a similar dynamic may be occurring. The Giants and Eagles both have multiple first round picks. Both should end up below .500 so their picks will be in the top half of the first round. The Giants own the Bears 1st round pick so that could be a fairly high pick. Both teams have QB's who they may not want to continue with after this season, depending on how they play the rest of the season. They obviously play in the same division so that gives each incentive to not let the other team get him. The only snag in this (other than the legal matters not being concluded or penalties relating to the legal matters being severe) for the Texans could be that apparently per unknown sources, Deshaun would veto a trade to Philadelphia. I just found it interesting that a once in a lifetime scenario, if you have to trade your young, top 5 franchise QB, is possibly lining up to happen again.
Where there's 22 separate accusers, there is fire. We'll see how it plays, but your base assumption seems like a long shot from where we sit right now.
Exactly. If Watson were released by the Texans tomorrow (won't happen, but just go with it for now) I think it would be tough for teams to take the PR hit of signing him. This isn't Kareem Hunt, where he was accused of doing one bad thing and then apologized for it. He has continued to deny the accusations, which is understandable because, if they're true, he's an incredibly creepy sexual predator. It's one of those things where, even if he admitted it, it would be incredibly difficult for people to get past.Why would any team offer multiple first round picks for a guy being accused of sexual misconduct by 22 different women?
Based on the Texans willingness to keep Watson inactive and eat his contract, and the reported asking price, I do not think it is likely that he plays this year.The one and only question I'm interested in, is will Watson be able to play this year or not? What is the best guess about this?
Based on the Texans willingness to keep Watson inactive and eat his contract, and the reported asking price, I do not think it is likely that he plays this year.
An obvious fit is PITT and it would fit their pattern of starting an alleged sexual assault offender at QB.
As much I like this possibility, what are the realistic probabilities of him playing this year or next?I think he gets traded to Miami or Philadelphia and plays right away.
Some recent Trade Rumor being "day to day"I’ve started shopping for him in 2qb leagues where my team isn’t strong and I’m playing for next year. He’ll be back under center next year at the latest. He’s worth the gamble.
When asked what's going to happen with Watson, McNair made it clear that general manager Nick Caserio is in charge of that, but he also added that it's a "day-to-day" situation.
Unconfirmed reports that owner Stephen Ross has demanded that the front office make a trade for DeShaun Watson immediately.
Dan Sileo is reporting this and he is saying that on Monday obviously today that Miami is going to make their offer to Houston.
What's odd is that it seems to be leaking out, I would think these two teams have already spoken, the way this is being reported, it sounds like Miami is telling the media before they ever speak to Houston which is ridiculous.
Still, it feels like Miami is desperate and needs to do something.
This may be a move for next year. I have to imagine he immediately goes on the commissioner's exempt list the moment any team activates him.How ready could Watson be to play?
How ready could Watson be to play?
I wonder what the trade would be. Most likely Tua and probably a 1st with some guarantee if he never plays again
Can't see the NFL letting him step on a field with all these legal issues. I'd be shocked if he played 1 snap this season (unless he settles.)I imagine he'll be starting within 2 weeks of any trade.
This may be a move for next year. I have to imagine he immediately goes on the commissioner's exempt list the moment any team activates him.
Yup.Agreed. I thought the sentiment all along was that HOU was being proactive in keeping him off the field and that was the only thing keeping him off the exempt list. Legal proceedings scheduled for Q1 2022 IIRC?
Tua could be reunited with Fitzmagic. That would actually be pretty great for them though, as its not shaping up to be a great draft class, and they likely won't pick high enough to have their choice of guysThis could be a wild multiple team trade or set of trades but serious rumors are that Denver might get Tua. ETA-and now Washington rumored to be in the mix.
My best guess of what is going on now is that Houston and Miami are close to a deal but Miami wants to move Tua first and sounds like they are working on it now.
If you have Will Fuller, keep him for one more week, just in case he comes back next week from IR and Watson comes to Miami.The NFL has never put a player on exempt list that was not facing criminal charges and multiple reports have continued to come out during course of this that they plan to do nothing with Watson until at least the criminal investigation is complete.
He's going to get traded and he's going to play for his new team this year.
I think its more that Watson is a top-5 player in the NFL. Doesn't matter if Tua is decent or not. Watson is basically Mahomes with off field issues.How are the Dolphins giving up on Tua in less than 2 years? He really that bad, or an injury liability? lol
Well, Miami has no shortage of beautiful women in a variety of parlors lolI think its more that Watson is a top-5 player in the NFL. Doesn't matter if Tua is decent or not. Watson is basically Mahomes with off field issues.
How are the Dolphins giving up on Tua in less than 2 years? He really that bad, or an injury liability? lol
I think the 1st round capital that Tua possesses means a lot more to GM's than the late 2nd round capital that Hurts possesses. Eagles do have amazing first round picks last year (maybe not the Colts). They get Watson for next year they could be back in business as a NFC east contenderTo those that say it's to early to give up on him I would ask what's the trait you've seen from him that is special or elite? I just don't think it's to early to say that while Tua might have some intangibles and leadership ability that makes him a solid NFL starting QB he's just not elite and when you get a shot to get a proven young elite QB you take it. I think he's always going to be in that QB20+ range myself.
If this is all true of sending Watson to Miami, and I think it is, I'm less surprised that Miami is moving on from Tua as I am that Philly did not make the winning offer due to the capital they possess. How much Watson's trade veto power played a part in that is something I'd be curious to find out in time.
I heard 3-team deal with WFT involved and Tua going to D.C.John McClain saying deal could be done this week with Dolphins:
https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/1450909383429349382
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Another team's potential involvement in another potential trade, not involving Deshaun Watson, is a factor in this situation, per league sources
I heard 3-team deal with WFT involved and Tua going to D.C.
Same things we're talking here?
Tua looks like he can be great to me. Great accuracy, very good pocket awareness and mobility to take advantage of it, good enough arm strength, and somehow hasn't gotten worse despite being in a terrible situation for a young QB with respect to protection, scheme and weapons.To those that say it's to early to give up on him I would ask what's the trait you've seen from him that is special or elite? I just don't think it's to early to say that while Tua might have some intangibles and leadership ability that makes him a solid NFL starting QB he's just not elite and when you get a shot to get a proven young elite QB you take it. I think he's always going to be in that QB20+ range myself.
If this is all true of sending Watson to Miami, and I think it is, I'm less surprised that Miami is moving on from Tua as I am that Philly did not make the winning offer due to the capital they possess. How much Watson's trade veto power played a part in that is something I'd be curious to find out in time.
Is it Hou-Mia-Den, Hou-Mia-WasI think so. . Benjamin Allrbight and a few others are saying Denver is engaged, Allbright also said Washington was in the mix. And yes that's what I think the tweet about other teams potential involvement means.
I personally couldnt care less what a person does off the field WHEN I'm looking at fantasy football. Only thing that matters is if he is good or not.Redraft......Do we need to pick Watson up, or doesn't he get to play..........and can we stomach what he is accused of doing?
I picked him up. We'll see what happens. I already feel dirty. I'm going to go home and hug my wife.I personally couldnt care less what a person does off the field WHEN I'm looking at fantasy football. Only thing that matters is if he is good or not.
With that said I can still not like him as a person
Would have to think Miami knows way more than the general public knows to be pursuing this, I doubt he's suspended at all, until something legally actually happens.Redraft......Do we need to pick Watson up, or doesn't he get to play..........and can we stomach what he is accused of doing?
I snagged him. I've got Brady and a bye coming up. If Watson comes out firing and putting up points this could be a free top 5 QB.Would have to think Miami knows way more than the general public knows to be pursuing this, I doubt he's suspended at all, until something legally actually happens.
I have no real care fantasy wise, if my players are good people or not. I'm also not a judge or jury, so its really not my problem what anyone has done off the field. I personally won't be picking Watson up, but in my only redraft, I've got Dak and Burrow.