JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m a little behind, so what is his act?
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QB Gardner Minshew II - LV (1 Viewer)
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Deamon
Footballguy
Really? Well maybe act is the wrong word, maybe just his hyped personality. Not saying it's bad, he just was known for his personality more than his play. And once his play finally did the talking last year, it was not good. He's a good dude but don't think he's a very good qb.
Bridge to the 1.1 next year
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Caleb Williams would be nice
That is the Colts way
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Cool beans
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Explain further
barackdhouse
Footballguy
When Gardner Minshew goes swimming, he doesn't get wet. The water gets Gardner Minshew.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think he’s saying that maybe the Colts and Cardinals already have a deal worked out for the Colts to move up to 3 to get their QB if the one they want doesn’t go Top 2.
Or maybe he’s saying the Cards new HC told the Colts HC they’re not taking a QB or trading out so stand pat. The former seems more likely.
Yes trade up to 3 if their guy is there
Minshew's upside is meh. He needs to go elsewhere to start was a mindset years ago but he's pretty firmly entrenched as a backup in the league now. Maybe he can get hot again and change that but all in all I think he's simply a good backup from here on.
Once he gets his opportunity is loaded though. We've seen how Eli stunk or Malik Willis stunk despite his athleticism and how Rodgers rocked from day one.
Ya gotta see how Richardson does in preseason. The Colts are not going to do anything stupid like put him out there to be sacked ten times a game or after an awful preseason play him more and wreck his confidence.
What do you think of their targets?
I've thought of this and don't have enough confidence in them to do this. I like this WR for this and that WR for that but all in all I don't feel like they've put it together yet. Pittman has more catches with "nice play call there" or "defense was sleeping" then just lets rely on him as a #1. I don't see an IT factor from him yet but also would be fine saying this is his year. Imo he still needs a bit more to be the alpha. Last year's rookie was decent. I'm sick of their TEs. For a long long time, I've thought the Colts have no clue how to use a TE. They always seem to have nice athletes there but refuse to let them be the QBs panic option or have them simply body a defender and fire it in. A TE should have X number of tough catches in traffic. There's always something off with how they use em versus how the rest of the league does
MTskibum
Footballguy
You are talking real life upside, however I see fantasy upside with him. I started him last year in a deep league where my QB's went down and he held his own, he was the #6 scoring QB in fantasy the 2 weeks he started.
I could see a 5,000 yard 30 TD 20 INT 5 fumble season out of him if you give him reins of the right team. Assuming he could survive from getting benched.
I think there is a greater than 50% chance that Minshew is the next Fitzmagic, a few good games that gives people hope but also the 4 turnover games that gets him benched. He is already on team 3, I bet he gets up to 7-8 nfl teams before his career is over.
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MTskibum
Footballguy
The WR's are irrelevant for this strategy, Richardson will get all his points from running and Minshew will be getting most of his points in garbage time. In the best balls I do i have been taking Minshew in the 20th round and anytime you are in the 20th round of a draft that does not include kickers/defense you are down to the scrubs.
I think handcuffing Richardson makes sense.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agreed.
That said, I see the Colts giving ARich every possible chance, limiting the possibility of Minshew taking the reins.
IMO the path to FF relevance is with an ARich injury. If that should come to pass Minshew will be FF gold in SF leagues, making him a must draft late round flier.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As soon as I’d decided to draft ARich in SF I dealt a 2025 3rd for Minshew to a rebuilding team.
Going after GM seems like the shark move for anyone drafting ARich.
grateful zed
Footballguy
(fantasypros) Gardner Minshew II put on a solid performance in Week 2, leading his team to a 31-20 victory over the Houston Texans after starter Anthony Richardson went down with an injury.
Analysis: Minshew was thrown into the game unexpectedly when starter Anthony Richardson went down with a concussion. He completed 19 of his 23 passing attempts, racking up 171 yards and a touchdown, while keeping his slate clean with zero interceptions. He also added a modest 3 yards on the ground from 2 attempts. It's unclear if Richardson will have to miss any real time while recovering from his injury, but Minshew could be a solid streaming option against the Ravens if the rookie will be out for Week 3.
Analysis: Minshew was thrown into the game unexpectedly when starter Anthony Richardson went down with a concussion. He completed 19 of his 23 passing attempts, racking up 171 yards and a touchdown, while keeping his slate clean with zero interceptions. He also added a modest 3 yards on the ground from 2 attempts. It's unclear if Richardson will have to miss any real time while recovering from his injury, but Minshew could be a solid streaming option against the Ravens if the rookie will be out for Week 3.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Glad I dealt for Minshew as soon as I knew I was drafting ARich.
Would rather have ARich in the SF slot, but Minshew should be a fine replacement
Would rather have ARich in the SF slot, but Minshew should be a fine replacement
Birdie048
Footballguy
I am wondering if this will be a Pass heavy game plan for Indy. Might even see life in Alec Pierce?
Yeah, too much dreaming there....
bolldpt
Footballguy
Wonder also weather issues as well
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Eh, a little rain never hurt anyone.
grateful zed
Footballguy
hoping he is still starting in week 10.
desperately need a qb to cover mahomes bye.
desperately need a qb to cover mahomes bye.
Be a little interesting to see the offense with Minshew long-term. Probably more run heavy with play action. Could maybe be a benefit for the fantasy values of Taylor (less vulturing) Pittman, and Downs, but probably makes it harder overall for the Colts to win games.
Having said that, the Colts schedule is great the next 5 games. Its very possible they could go 5-0 during this stretch as the Jags this week is the toughest game in this stretch, and that game was 50-50 in week 1.
Having said that, the Colts schedule is great the next 5 games. Its very possible they could go 5-0 during this stretch as the Jags this week is the toughest game in this stretch, and that game was 50-50 in week 1.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
As a Pittman owner. I just want to see some consistency at the QB position.
So I’m all for Minshew hanging around.
Dez
Footballguy
You must have been listening to Jeff Mans rant and rave all week (before the Browns game) that Minsehw would lose his job by week 9.
Not sure what he is smoking because while Minshew has those bad turnovers he actually moves the offense. I guess if you are on a big stage you can pretty much spout off anything to the public.
Josh Hayes was giving people the advice to drop Burrow for Dobbs about 3 or 4 weeks ago and then was citing Dobbs schedule in weeks 14-16 as if Murray wasn't coming back.
These "experts" who get paid for a living really do give a lot of bad advice. Josh Hayes has been at the top of the XM terrible advice guy list this year.
Some of his biggest hits were "drop Burrow for Dobbs" and "Hall is a 9th round pick and Cook a 4th" and "Hall is 1 of the top handcuff RBs this year"
I am pretty sure we all seen the Ehlinger experience last year and no one wants to go back to that.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He has had 15 turnover worthy plays in three starts. He's played six games, some of his relief stints were lengthy, but for whatever reason he had zero TWPs in his 3 g as a reserve.
His TWP % is the highest in the league, but in the starts alone, it's over 10%. That would be the highest since they started tracking it in 2014. Now obviously not every TWP actually is a turnover, so if he's got a n upside down horseshoe ring stuck up his butt, then everything should be seashells and balloons.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
His fantasy points have been all over the place too. He seems to have a high ceiling… but boy does his floor seem low.
I’d be cautious if I had to start him.
Faust
MVP
Next Gen Stats
A look at areas where Gardner Minshew exceled in the Colts' 30-13 win over the Steelers:
vs. 4-Man Rush: 15/18, 186 yds, 2 TD
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TampaMike19
Footballguy
Super flex god!
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Gardner Minshew II added to Pro Bowl
Smh
Not trying to be a hater. But. Smh
Smh
Not trying to be a hater. But. Smh
Pretty much the biggest compliment Shane Steichen can get. I truly wonder if Anthony Richardson doesn't get hurt, if the Colts don't easily win the AFC South. Minshew was managed almost perfectly this season.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He performed admirably.
And
bigger names dropped out like they do every year.
Good for Minshew. He seems like a good dude. I can only be happy for him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’d love to see it.
Why do you expect a rookie would do well?
Minshew was fine. He always fills his role well and I appreciate that. He should get veteran backup pay whatever that rate is.
I think Richardson brings more to the offense, and I think Steichen has proved he uses players to their best abilities, both with Minshew and with Hurts, and I don't think Richardson would be different, and he likely would have improved the more experience he got.
Very small sample size admittedly, but Richardson had a slightly higher YPA and higher passer rating than Minshew, while obviously adding more to the ground game than Minshew, and he never got to play with Taylor, who likely also would have been much more effective with Richardson at the helm.
Every AFC West team would love to see it too.
