QB J.J. McCarthy, MIN (2 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well... I couldn't be more 180 on this chap.

From pre season diss to Week 1 add.

Seeing is believing. Grabbed him and Penix, now I get to decide between them on Sunday night.

Really, huh? He had a -.45 EPA and was 13-20 for 143 yards. Not for a half. For the game. He did have 2 passing TDs and a rushing TD to go with a pick-six. I don't know. His aDOT was around a 5.8, which is 27th in the league. When he threw, he didn't throw it that far, even. The thing that won MN the game was Mason's running, really.

I certainly think we all have the right to draw our own conclusions, but I think I'd like to see a little bit more from the young man. Just me.

I saw him make the throws he'll need to make in the KOC offense which I didn't know if he could make coming in so thats my reason for optimism

We've seen KOC spin gold with Darnold, I'll take the guy with an upgrade in mobility and now a true run balance to things.

I'm investing in the unknown of JJ versus the known mediocrity of in this specific case, Trevor Lawrence. But there's a few guys you could bucket there.

Discussion about JJM is limited to those of us who waited on QB though, if he's ever a top 10 QB it will be right about 10.

But considering I thought he'd totally flop, I'm intrigued. I may be likewise betting into fools gold since it was the bears he carved up

No, that's great. I was actually higher on him out of college than what I wound up seeing but giving him no time wouldn't be fair on my end. In addition to the stats I just gave, he had a good passer rating and success rate. He was bottom-third in aggressiveness and completion rate, but he tended to throw the ball close to the sticks (to a first down) when he did throw. Considering how that game started, it could have been a complete disaster. He fought through some embarrassment, sucked it up, and made all the throws and the decisions when he had to. This should be an interesting year. I wish him the best.

You really should take a bit and watch JTO break that game down. The video link is upthread.

You’re putting way more on JJM than is warranted here.

 

[rockaction]

Well... I couldn't be more 180 on this chap.

From pre season diss to Week 1 add.

Seeing is believing. Grabbed him and Penix, now I get to decide between them on Sunday night.

Really, huh? He had a -.45 EPA and was 13-20 for 143 yards. Not for a half. For the game. He did have 2 passing TDs and a rushing TD to go with a pick-six. I don't know. His aDOT was around a 5.8, which is 27th in the league. When he threw, he didn't throw it that far, even. The thing that won MN the game was Mason's running, really.

I certainly think we all have the right to draw our own conclusions, but I think I'd like to see a little bit more from the young man. Just me.

I saw him make the throws he'll need to make in the KOC offense which I didn't know if he could make coming in so thats my reason for optimism

We've seen KOC spin gold with Darnold, I'll take the guy with an upgrade in mobility and now a true run balance to things.

I'm investing in the unknown of JJ versus the known mediocrity of in this specific case, Trevor Lawrence. But there's a few guys you could bucket there.

Discussion about JJM is limited to those of us who waited on QB though, if he's ever a top 10 QB it will be right about 10.

But considering I thought he'd totally flop, I'm intrigued. I may be likewise betting into fools gold since it was the bears he carved up

No, that's great. I was actually higher on him out of college than what I wound up seeing but giving him no time wouldn't be fair on my end. In addition to the stats I just gave, he had a good passer rating and success rate. He was bottom-third in aggressiveness and completion rate, but he tended to throw the ball close to the sticks (to a first down) when he did throw. Considering how that game started, it could have been a complete disaster. He fought through some embarrassment, sucked it up, and made all the throws and the decisions when he had to. This should be an interesting year. I wish him the best.

You really should take a bit and watch JTO break that game down. The video link is upthread.

You’re putting way more on JJM than is warranted here.

I’ll run the risk. I’m not really worried about their competency. I’m still amused the sort of almost ire Biabreakable treats the suggestion. They dropped back ten times in the first half. They were 5-8 with two sacks.

We will figure out how they play this soon enough.

 

[Jail]

Well... I couldn't be more 180 on this chap.

From pre season diss to Week 1 add.

Seeing is believing. Grabbed him and Penix, now I get to decide between them on Sunday night.

Really, huh? He had a -.45 EPA and was 13-20 for 143 yards. Not for a half. For the game. He did have 2 passing TDs and a rushing TD to go with a pick-six. I don't know. His aDOT was around a 5.8, which is 27th in the league. When he threw, he didn't throw it that far, even. The thing that won MN the game was Mason's running, really.

I certainly think we all have the right to draw our own conclusions, but I think I'd like to see a little bit more from the young man. Just me.

I saw him make the throws he'll need to make in the KOC offense which I didn't know if he could make coming in so thats my reason for optimism

We've seen KOC spin gold with Darnold, I'll take the guy with an upgrade in mobility and now a true run balance to things.

I'm investing in the unknown of JJ versus the known mediocrity of in this specific case, Trevor Lawrence. But there's a few guys you could bucket there.

Discussion about JJM is limited to those of us who waited on QB though, if he's ever a top 10 QB it will be right about 10.

But considering I thought he'd totally flop, I'm intrigued. I may be likewise betting into fools gold since it was the bears he carved up

No, that's great. I was actually higher on him out of college than what I wound up seeing but giving him no time wouldn't be fair on my end. In addition to the stats I just gave, he had a good passer rating and success rate. He was bottom-third in aggressiveness and completion rate, but he tended to throw the ball close to the sticks (to a first down) when he did throw. Considering how that game started, it could have been a complete disaster. He fought through some embarrassment, sucked it up, and made all the throws and the decisions when he had to. This should be an interesting year. I wish him the best.

You really should take a bit and watch JTO break that game down. The video link is upthread.

You’re putting way more on JJM than is warranted here.

I wanted to watch it, but when I clicked and saw it was 41 minutes long I quickly closed the window.

Is it really worth a full watch?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is it really worth a full watch?

I thought so. I skipped around a little to plays I wanted to know more about, but I watched the breakdown of the first half in its entirety.

 

[Schmeabs]

Nothing changed in my opinion of him after his first outing. I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

 

[Gally]

I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

We must have watched a different game. I thought he had rookie nerves and protection (conservative play calls) early but improved as the game went along and showed he can make all necessary throws and had enough speed/elusiveness to be a positive from the QB position. While Jefferson might not be top 5 at the WR position for FF this year he will still be startable and have top 5 games sprinkled in.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

We must have watched a different game. I thought he had rookie nerves and protection early but improved as the game went along and showed he can make all necessary throws and had enough speed/elusiveness to be a positive from the QB position. While Jefferson might not be top 5 at the WR position for FF this year he will still be startable and have top 5 games sprinkled in.

Likewise. His protection was rough, and his receivers didn’t help him out by being out of synch, slipping, or getting bumped at the line throwing off their timing.

Purely from a FF perspective, dude put up 27 points in basically 1/4 of play. I can only imagine his production will rise as he is trusted more and the passing game gels with the OL & receivers. Especially after week 3 when he gets Addison back (a significant upgrade from Thielen & Nailor, IMO)

 

[Smack Tripper]

Is it really worth a full watch?

I thought so. I skipped around a little to plays I wanted to know more about, but I watched the breakdown of the first half in its entirety.

I missed this where is the link to it

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is it really worth a full watch?

I thought so. I skipped around a little to plays I wanted to know more about, but I watched the breakdown of the first half in its entirety.

I missed this where is the link to it

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[Dizzy]

Nothing changed in my opinion of him after his first outing. I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

You know that SEP is the new pre-season right? Offenses are a hot mess until OCT rolls around.

 

[Manster]

I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

We must have watched a different game. I thought he had rookie nerves and protection early but improved as the game went along and showed he can make all necessary throws and had enough speed/elusiveness to be a positive from the QB position. While Jefferson might not be top 5 at the WR position for FF this year he will still be startable and have top 5 games sprinkled in.

Likewise. His protection was rough, and his receivers didn’t help him out by being out of synch, slipping, or getting bumped at the line throwing off their timing.

Purely from a FF perspective, dude put up 27 points in basically 1/4 of play. I can only imagine his production will rise as he is trusted more and the passing game gels with the OL & receivers. Especially after week 3 when he gets Addison back (a significant upgrade from Thielen & Nailor, IMO)

For the moment I’m pretty stoked. Seems like the coach, and supporting cast are there for him to shine

 

[ponchsox]

After JJM gets a few games under his belt and gets Addison back, I think he’s going to ball out for fantasy.

 

[Faust]

Vikings not surprised by J.J. McCarthy's eye-opening NFL debut

 

[massraider]

For the moment I’m pretty stoked. Seems like the coach, and supporting cast are there for him to shine

If a person is of the opinion that long term fantasy success for a QB is impacted dramatically by situation/organization, that person should be optimistic/excited by JJ McCarthy.

I am such a person.

 

[Runkle]

"Threw a pick-six, had a TD toss, and his wife had a baby all in the same week: the Philip Rivers Hat Trick"

 

[skol asylum]

I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

We must have watched a different game. I thought he had rookie nerves and protection early but improved as the game went along and showed he can make all necessary throws and had enough speed/elusiveness to be a positive from the QB position. While Jefferson might not be top 5 at the WR position for FF this year he will still be startable and have top 5 games sprinkled in.

Likewise. His protection was rough, and his receivers didn’t help him out by being out of synch, slipping, or getting bumped at the line throwing off their timing.

Purely from a FF perspective, dude put up 27 points in basically 1/4 of play. I can only imagine his production will rise as he is trusted more and the passing game gels with the OL & receivers. Especially after week 3 when he gets Addison back (a significant upgrade from Thielen & Nailor, IMO)

Addison also looked locked in from clips I saw in camp. I think he's going to get a lot of targets.

 

[Faust]

Falcons vs. Vikings: Atlanta keeps J.J. McCarthy, Minnesota out of end zone in strong 22-6 victory

 

[The Frankman]

J.J. McCarthy completed 11-of-21 passes for 158 yards and two interceptions while running 5 times for 25 yards in the Vikings’ 22-6, Week 2 loss to the Falcons.

McCarthy and the Vikings were unable to replicate their fourth quarter magic from Week 1 after struggling to move the football for three quarters, managing just six points before the break and being held off the scoreboard entirely in the final two frames. The second-year effective rookie also put the ball on the ground three times, losing one fumble, as the Vikings gained just 198 total yards of offense on a modest 23:28 time of possession. The early-season returns are less than adequate to sustain viable fantasy production for managers that invested in Kevin O’Connell’s offense, something the team will look to correct ahead of a Week 3 meeting with a Bengals team without quarterback Joe Burrow.
- Rotoworld

I'm still stunned they played him so little in the preseason. He's had a rough start to the season.

 

[Schmeabs]

Nothing changed in my opinion of him after his first outing. I am still glad I avoided all skill players on Minn offense as he looks terrible.

Good Call