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On the sideline, no boot, no crutches.
Out for 4 weeks, don't ask no questions
Out for 4 weeks, don't ask no questions
Vikings looked hopeless against Atlanta, who just got drilled by Carolina 30-0. A lot of good things came together yesterday to make that 48-10 score what it was, but I’m still not super confident we can sustain itAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
Browns are tough. Steelers are a paper tiger 2-1.
It is very possible they go 3-0.
Vikings looked hopeless against Atlanta, who just got drilled by Carolina 30-0. A lot of good things came together yesterday to make that 48-10 score what it was, but I’m still not super confident we can sustain itAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
Browns are tough. Steelers are a paper tiger 2-1.
It is very possible they go 3-0.
Not sure I would call playing in Dublin & London home gamesAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
On the sideline, no boot, no crutches.
Out for 4 weeks, don't ask no questions

I'll ask the question, what does it matter who the Vikings face? They just ripped the Bengals 50-3 at home, they're a lot more than just a. QBAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
Can't go 3-0 if you don't go 1-0Vikings looked hopeless against Atlanta, who just got drilled by Carolina 30-0. A lot of good things came together yesterday to make that 48-10 score what it was, but I’m still not super confident we can sustain itAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
Browns are tough. Steelers are a paper tiger 2-1.
It is very possible they go 3-0.
Yeah. I was cautioning our friend that the Browns are going to be a freaking slog. I do not have the Vikings winning that game and didn’t.
The Steelers are paper tigers, but if Watt/Highsmith/Herbig/Sawyer get going then that paper can turn feral in a minute.
I was really telling the OP that 3-0 with Wentz seems unlikely. I was just saying it nicely.
I don't want to go too far off the ledge with you but yes I'll join you in agreement that the Vikings might not be able to sustain getting ahead 50-3 vs some of their future opponentsVikings looked hopeless against Atlanta, who just got drilled by Carolina 30-0. A lot of good things came together yesterday to make that 48-10 score what it was, but I’m still not super confident we can sustain itAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
Browns are tough. Steelers are a paper tiger 2-1.
It is very possible they go 3-0.
If the offense is performing well and the team is winning under Wentz but not McCarthy, then that’s a problem. Moreover, that’s more likely to happen if Wentz is playing bad teams, whereas McCarthy is playing good teams.I'll ask the question, what does it matter who the Vikings face? They just ripped the Bengals 50-3 at home, they're a lot more than just a. QBAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
If JJMc starts in a couple weeks and he looks terrible the 1st Half, much easier to bring Wentz in relief of him and then decide what you want to do on a more week to week basis
At some point, the training wheels have to come off fully
I think I understand your POV but to be clear I would not take JJMc out just to avoid a gun fight, otherwise why do the Vikes have him at all as their starting QB?If the offense is performing well and the team is winning under Wentz but not McCarthy, then that’s a problem. Moreover, that’s more likely to happen if Wentz is playing bad teams, whereas McCarthy is playing good teams.I'll ask the question, what does it matter who the Vikings face? They just ripped the Bengals 50-3 at home, they're a lot more than just a. QBAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
If JJMc starts in a couple weeks and he looks terrible the 1st Half, much easier to bring Wentz in relief of him and then decide what you want to do on a more week to week basis
At some point, the training wheels have to come off fully
You basically answered your question later on when you said that it would make the decision to bench McCarthy a lot easier. Indeed, that was the entire point of my post.
I agree with you. It’s way too soon to give up on McCarthy and a QB controversy carries long-term developmental risk.I think I understand your POV but to be clear I would not take JJMc out just to avoid a gun fight, otherwise why do the Vikes have him at all as their starting QB?If the offense is performing well and the team is winning under Wentz but not McCarthy, then that’s a problem. Moreover, that’s more likely to happen if Wentz is playing bad teams, whereas McCarthy is playing good teams.I'll ask the question, what does it matter who the Vikings face? They just ripped the Bengals 50-3 at home, they're a lot more than just a. QBAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
If JJMc starts in a couple weeks and he looks terrible the 1st Half, much easier to bring Wentz in relief of him and then decide what you want to do on a more week to week basis
At some point, the training wheels have to come off fully
You basically answered your question later on when you said that it would make the decision to bench McCarthy a lot easier. Indeed, that was the entire point of my post.
They will do some serious phychologiical damage if they convey to him they only want him to start vs the easier teams in the NFL, that's not a good plan
As soon as McCarthy is healthy they have to start him, otherwise it's back to the Draft and maybe you feel that way already but I need to see a lot more of JJMc
He was one fo the QBs in last year's draft class that I had reservations about, just didn't feel he was a huge difference maker for the Wolverines when they won the title
It wasn't as bad as when the Colts took ARich #4 overall, just IMHO JJ was not on the same level as some going in the 1st round
You can't be afraid of the opposition or avoid a confrontation, either he can play Quarterback in the NFL or he can't
I agree with you. It’s way too soon to give up on McCarthy and a QB controversy carries long-term developmental risk.I think I understand your POV but to be clear I would not take JJMc out just to avoid a gun fight, otherwise why do the Vikes have him at all as their starting QB?If the offense is performing well and the team is winning under Wentz but not McCarthy, then that’s a problem. Moreover, that’s more likely to happen if Wentz is playing bad teams, whereas McCarthy is playing good teams.I'll ask the question, what does it matter who the Vikings face? They just ripped the Bengals 50-3 at home, they're a lot more than just a. QBAs I mentioned a few pages back, Wentz is gonna have the Steelers + Browns after this game and both are at home. So, he’s likely going to be 3-0.
McCarthy is projected to come back during a brutal stretch in their schedule (Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens). Even if they hand him back the reins, there will be a lot of pressure on him to perform...
If JJMc starts in a couple weeks and he looks terrible the 1st Half, much easier to bring Wentz in relief of him and then decide what you want to do on a more week to week basis
At some point, the training wheels have to come off fully
You basically answered your question later on when you said that it would make the decision to bench McCarthy a lot easier. Indeed, that was the entire point of my post.
They will do some serious phychologiical damage if they convey to him they only want him to start vs the easier teams in the NFL, that's not a good plan
As soon as McCarthy is healthy they have to start him, otherwise it's back to the Draft and maybe you feel that way already but I need to see a lot more of JJMc
He was one fo the QBs in last year's draft class that I had reservations about, just didn't feel he was a huge difference maker for the Wolverines when they won the title
It wasn't as bad as when the Colts took ARich #4 overall, just IMHO JJ was not on the same level as some going in the 1st round
You can't be afraid of the opposition or avoid a confrontation, either he can play Quarterback in the NFL or he can't
But people are imprudent and the media likes to stir the pot. I mean, we already had pundits and fans saying that he was benched with a phantom injury, and now they’re pointing at yesterday’s win. This will only get worse if McCarthy struggles when he returns (presumably against the Eagles after the bye).
Is that the take away?New Question Mark Headlines for this week:
Is Carson Wentz in danger of losing his backup job?!?
Can JJ McCarthy come back soon enough to save the Vikings season?
Did every McCarthy injury truther undergo a lobotomy, or just some of them?
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There are no takeaways.Is that the take away?
Young career for JJM.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Thats not a take. Except for the part where i said Wentz looked terrible, actually that was a take. The other part was just a fact.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Ok fair. I’d be willing to bet Wentz has thrown a lot more Ints than JJM too.Thats not a take. Except for the part where i said Wentz looked terrible, actually that was a take. The other part was just a fact.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
If you own Jefferson, Addison et al, you’re praying that Wentz keeps the starting gig. Unfortunately, it doesn’t looks like that’s gonna happen.Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I think Wentz also has more career TDs than McCarthy.
Like, a LOT more
I took it as a joke but I could be wrong.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
He was pointing out that McCarthy had 301 yards in two starts, whereas Wentz just put up 350. From a purely fantasy perspective, who do you want throwing to your players? Redraft, of course.I took it as a joke but I could be wrong.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Had he said "in one game" versus "in two games" I would have taken it as pointing out a fact. But phrasing it as versus "his career" made it seem like it was trying to be comical. But some of both is also possible.He was pointing out that McCarthy had 301 yards in two starts, whereas Wentz just put up 350. From a purely fantasy perspective, who do you want throwing to your players? Redraft, of course.I took it as a joke but I could be wrong.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
Eh, I kinda did too.’I took it as a joke but I could be wrong.Nominated: most disingenuous take in forum history.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I dunno - with the OL getting a little healthier I think JJM is plenty capable of getting the ball to those guys.If you own Jefferson, Addison et al, you’re praying that Wentz keeps the starting gig. Unfortunately, it doesn’t looks like that’s gonna happen.Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I think Wentz also has more career TDs than McCarthy.
Like, a LOT more
Who cares.I’m absolutely being serious when I said that Wentz is likely better for fantasy purposes
What are we basing this on? Did you see something from his first two games that suggested he’s ready to support a WR1 in Jefferson, a WR2 in Addison, and a TE1 in Hockenson? Or, are we just going off his pedigree?I dunno - with the OL getting a little healthier I think JJM is plenty capable of getting the ball to those guys.If you own Jefferson, Addison et al, you’re praying that Wentz keeps the starting gig. Unfortunately, it doesn’t looks like that’s gonna happen.Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I think Wentz also has more career TDs than McCarthy.
Like, a LOT more
I see. Well, there were a few people who were pushing the phantom injury conspiracy. I wasn’t one of them.Who cares.I’m absolutely being serious when I said that Wentz is likely better for fantasy purposes
No one was arguing against that, which is certainly a valid short term argument.
It was the genius take that the Vikings were going to secretly bench JJ behind a trumped up injury, to let Wentz take over.
Does Wentz get to play CIN every week?
I did see something in those games. It was JJM throwing the football to JJ, and also engineering a huge comeback win with a horrific OL.What are we basing this on? Did you see something from his first two games that suggested he’s ready to support a WR1 in Jefferson, a WR2 in Addison, and a TE1 in Hockenson? Or, are we just going off his pedigree?I dunno - with the OL getting a little healthier I think JJM is plenty capable of getting the ball to those guys.If you own Jefferson, Addison et al, you’re praying that Wentz keeps the starting gig. Unfortunately, it doesn’t looks like that’s gonna happen.Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I think Wentz also has more career TDs than McCarthy.
Like, a LOT more
Nope on the 2024 preseason games, and yep on the ones from the 2025 regular season. Regarding the latter, I saw nada from him that made me feel good about my Jefferson and Hockenson shares.I did see something in those games. It was JJM throwing the football to JJ, and also engineering a huge comeback win with a horrific OL.What are we basing this on? Did you see something from his first two games that suggested he’s ready to support a WR1 in Jefferson, a WR2 in Addison, and a TE1 in Hockenson? Or, are we just going off his pedigree?I dunno - with the OL getting a little healthier I think JJM is plenty capable of getting the ball to those guys.If you own Jefferson, Addison et al, you’re praying that Wentz keeps the starting gig. Unfortunately, it doesn’t looks like that’s gonna happen.Can't argue with this logic people.Carson Wentz looked terrible but still threw for more yards in one game than McCarthy has in his career.![]()
I think Wentz also has more career TDs than McCarthy.
Like, a LOT more
Addison wasn’t playing yet, nor was their best OL, so… I also saw him throwing a pretty deep ball in the preseason last year.
Did you not see those games?
With that OL I don’t think it matters who the QB is. But I do think the sample size is way too small to make these sort of sweeping conclusions.But now, I think he’s gonna be a game manager type this season, at best.
I mean...Book it.Oh gosh please tell you aren't thee poster who thinks that one random NFL journeyman is about to be the Vikings saviorHe is essentially a rookie but he isn't which does make me nervous for him. I think fans will have higher expectations just because it is year 2 but also because of how well Darnold did. It creates this perception that any QB can step in and throw 30+ TDs in this offense and if he struggles with typical rookie growing pains, the rumblings that Vikings messed up choosing him over Darnold are going to start.
Agree. Don't even think he is the starter for long.lol I rewrote my post so I agree.. my real flag plant is he stinks overall and lost a development year. The line and the coach may offer some lift but not as much as he is an anchor
You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Or was he benched?You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Status says injured.Or was he benched?
Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Said he wouldn't be starting for long. And was right.Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Just take the L buddy. You said he wouldn’t be their starter. He was their starter. Bad take.Said he wouldn't be starting for long. And was right.Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry you thought JJ was good. Bad take.
Brett would have won the job easily had they not let him go find a better situation for himself.Just take the L buddy. You said he wouldn’t be their starter. He was their starter. Bad take.Said he wouldn't be starting for long. And was right.Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry you thought JJ was good. Bad take.

Seriously? If "will not be the starter for long" is the prop, then the answer should be "not determined yet". You're neither right nor wrong yet. I mean sure if you meant he will soon be literally not starting a game then yes, but that's almost never what someone means when they say a player is "the starter".Brett would have won the job easily had they not let him go find a better situation for himself.Just take the L buddy. You said he wouldn’t be their starter. He was their starter. Bad take.Said he wouldn't be starting for long. And was right.Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry you thought JJ was good. Bad take.
Enjoy your day, it will get better![]()
It’s a schtick. The sooner you accept that it’s a schtick, the less frustrated you’ll be with their nonsensical goalpost moving takes.Seriously? If "will not be the starter for long" is the prop, then the answer should be "not determined yet". You're neither right nor wrong yet. I mean sure if you meant he will soon be literally not starting a game then yes, but that's almost never what someone means when they say a player is "the starter".Brett would have won the job easily had they not let him go find a better situation for himself.Just take the L buddy. You said he wouldn’t be their starter. He was their starter. Bad take.Said he wouldn't be starting for long. And was right.Sorry you were wrong about JJ not starting the year. You’re not very good.Sorry about your JJ luck. He's not very good.Nope. You’re wrong here.Nope. You're wrong here.You never predicted he’d get hurt. The second he started the 1st game of the season you were wrong. Sit down.I mean...
Sorry you thought JJ was good. Bad take.
Enjoy your day, it will get better![]()