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QB Joe Burrow, CIN (2 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
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Not sure what to make of this rookie. Being on Cincinnati can't exactly help.
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The Frankman
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I'm really happy for him (for reasons my avatar may make obvious). I've been worried Cincinnati's O line would get him killed (and I'm not done being concerned about that) but the skill position situation was and is good and he's showing out. Hoping the team can build around him.
The Frankman
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zamboni
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Indeed. They were playing with fire all year long with that OL and it finally bit them big time.
Just hope he’ll be ready by week 1 next year and shows no ill effects. We saw what happened to Wentz once he tore his ACL a few years ago - hasn’t been the same since.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Feel for Burrow, feel for Cinci fans. Good kid, hell of a QB. He’ll be back and he’ll be good - that’s the good news.
Moe Green
Footballguy
Teams with a franchise QB can't afford to allow for poor OL play anymore. It's too dangerous for their top asset.
Ministry of Pain
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Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Man, I hate to see that kind of injury Burrow sustained today. Give him credits for lasting this long while taking pounding due to his porous OL.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Already planning on releasing Higgins in redraft this week.
Party's over for Bengals WR and the folks who play them weekly.
MRI revealed more damage than anticipated: Bengals’ QB Joe Burrow tore his ACL, MCL, and suffered other structural issues in his knee as well, per @Ben_Baby and me.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1330950466692378628
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1330950466692378628
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Like I said about Lawrence going to the Jets - the NFL shouldn't allow bad franchises to ruin great QBs. Just totally forbid them from drafting these guys until they prove they can protect the asset.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Not surprised. Looked awful. Hyperextended from the front and another guy hitting him from the side as the leg was trapped.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The tiniest of silver lining is that it wasn't his plant leg.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
My fear all along was that it was much more than just an ACL. I'm not a doctor but I wouldn't let him touch the field in 2021. This was a major setback, not a clean ACL tear. My heart goes out to the fan base of Cinci, it's with a heavy heart that I say Cinci will have to start over as painful as it sounds right now. They ruined him by not getting the OL set right and I don't think that coach has any business walking the sidelines. He might be ready by 2022 but by that point you only have that season to keep him on his rookie contract, all the top QBs get anew deal in the off season between Year 3 and Year 4...they've all gone this way unless the QB isn't any good or folks have doubts like Winston but most felt Burrow was an instant success. If I were Joe I would ask for a trade and that would be my only communication to the franchise until they choke on it. I would announce that i will not be taking the field again at QB and will simply rehab and bide my time.
Joe Burrow will never be the same QB
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Dr. Octopus
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That type of injury shouldn't be devastating for a QB - hope he recovers quickly and well.
Dr. Octopus
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Nathan R. Jessep
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I have to disagree with the last part. I know the psychological impact of an injury of this nature can be an issue, but watched every snap he played last year at LSU and this kid is one of the toughest I have ever seen play QB. Physically and mentally. If anyone has the fortitude to overcome something like this, I think it's Joey B.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Go watch the tackle again and again a few times, after you're done throwing up, tell me how'd you approach it.
God Bless JB for getting on Twitter and maybe he had a family member do that just to calm folks down. But he's no doctor either and he didn't know the extent of the damage but he did say he was gone for a year.
He is likely to get killed again if he trots out behind that OL, and the coaching did nothing to protect him, NOTHING IMHO and I would fire every single one of them today. But it's Cinci so the GM and coach will likely get an off season extension.
Cinci fans cannot be mad that I am angry with the FO/Coach and Owners, they've been the pits of the NFL for as long as I can remember AND I rooted for Kenny Anderson vs Montana in Detroit '81and again in Miami in '89, I've always wanted them to do well. I felt bad for Burrow being drafted there and I'm not surprised this happened. This event is what goes thru the mind of future greats coming into the NFL like when Eli would not go West, didn't feel the Chargers were ver going to get him to a Super Bowl, maybe he was right since he notched 2 in New York and so maybe the next time a QB signals he won't go the worst franchise in the NFL, maybe fans should stand up and cheer, support the college player that hasn't cashed a paycheck yet for speaking out about how they really feel.
I wish I wasn't this fired up about it but it was hard to watch.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Marino was never the same after his achilles tear in '93 vs Cleveland I believe. He was all there between the ears but he could no longer shuffle around the pocket like he could earlier.
Burrow is going to lose some mobility, look at Carson Palmer who was never super mobile but turned more statue like after. I hope you are right Nathan and I appreciate you disagreeing and posting with me.
I hope you're right.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
What does how the injury looked matter if we know the results? Yes, it looked bad.
This seems like an extreme over-reaction - but we'll see how it plays out.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Sucks that Burrow got injured. I think he has a bright future.
ACL:+MCL is more serious than just an ACL injury but we have seen many players recover from these injuries and play at a high level. The success rate of recovery for QBs is higher than it is for RB. The younger the player is the better their chances at recovery as well.
Hopefully Burrow will be fine.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah Peterson had a combination injury like this IIRC
I haven't looked into the gory details so no idea how severe his injury might be compared to others in the past.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
This does seem like the same level of injury as Adrian Peterson had and that is part of why it was exceptional for Peterson to recover in only 9 months as well as he did. The recovery time is expected to be longer than that.
I think the injury Teddy Bridgewater had was more severe than Burrows. I don't hear anyone saying he is at risk to recover from it at all.
I think the injury Teddy Bridgewater had was more severe than Burrows. I don't hear anyone saying he is at risk to recover from it at all.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Yeah Schefty just said on SNF "Torn ACL & MCL, Meniscus and PCL damage as well." Jeez. Most likely looking at 2022, I'd think. That said, he's the franchise QB. Gives them time to shore up the OL.
How would you like to be the backup QB going in with that OL right now?
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Does this tank Burrow's dynasty value? Time to buy low?
Some may want to get out for what they can due to the risk he doesn't recover, but I imagine most will just hang onto him as his price was fairly high a few days ago. Probably will be cheaper to acquire sometime in the next 6~9 months once it sinks in that he'll probably be missing games in 2021.
Bigger question to me is what does this do to the value of Higgins, Boyd and Mixon. Ryan Finley for the rest of the season and who knows to start next season?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And let's go back to MOP posting right after this happened. People thought I was overreacting but the more we are hearing the less likely this kid should play in 2021, that's YEAR 2 of the rookie QB Playbook that all teams must follow and Cincinnati is being stripped of almost half of what a rookie QB brings to the table coming into the NFL. 6 Full Games this year, likely another 6-8 next year if it takes a full 12 months, that's a big pill to swallow and very bitter I might add. They would have been better off not winning a game and being a player in the Trevor sweepstakes whether they needed him or not. It's time to think outside of the box.
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Ministry of Pain
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I am 100% with the first article
I hope Burrow will be back but I have my doubts we will ever see the same QB we saw when he left the field. I hope I'm wrong.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Willis McGahee was never the same after his knee was shredded in the Title game vs OSU, think most who followed him would agree that the guy who was drafted in Buffalo was not the same guy who was ripping it up prior to the Fiesta Bowl.
The Bengals will be picking No 1 in the 2022 Draft, I'd like to be on record for that, thanks!
The Bengals will be picking No 1 in the 2022 Draft, I'd like to be on record for that, thanks!
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styleride85
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Don't really see the point in having him back next year. He would likely be able to come back midway through next years season. Why throw him in there when the Bengals are 2-6? I could see them throwing him in for the last few games, but I don't think they're going to rush this at all.
styleride85
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Quite possibly, yes. SOmeone will want to trade up for Howell so they could get a lot of picks in return for that top pick.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Bengals fan. I don’t see him taking the field in 2021. The team has to bring in a decent vet to bridge that period.
How does this injury compare to Prescott’s? That one seemed pretty devastating as well.
How does this injury compare to Prescott’s? That one seemed pretty devastating as well.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
My heart goes out to the Cincinnati fan base, you all deserve better than this and should be celebrating Burrow, that plan is now up in the air.
The only thing I was hoping when Tua was in Denver was that he wouldn't get hurt. He took at least 6 sacks in the game and he got his ankle or leg caught towards the end of the game, could have been really bad but it appeared he was OK, replay didn't look that good to me.
Cinci and Miami both were wretched last year but Miami started to show some signs of life and the Front Office and coaches started building before the QB got here, I just don't see what Cinci did leading up to drafting Joe Burrow. You invest that kind of selection/money whatever you want to protect your investment, it's possible he shouldn't have started until they got the OL somewhat assembled, let Finley be the one who pays the price. Miami was running Fitz out there but if he was injured, oh well, he knows Miami was using him a bit to cover up a shoddy OL.
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zamboni
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I think that article is a bit disingenuous to the Bengals. Every QB gets sacked from time to time and it only takes one awkward hit to create that devastation. It’s a brutal game and knees are not meant to withstand that pressure.
Having said that, the Bengals were clearly pushing their luck more than any other team with how much pressure Burrow was under all year. It seemed only a matter of time - and sadly it happened.
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