QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (2 Viewers)

[rustycolts]

God I hope the Bucs draft Mariota. I have been a fan since their inception,We havn't had a decent QB since

Doug Willams.I know most experts are saying draft Winston,but if they do that I am going to have to give up on them and revert back to being a Dolfan.I believe there are a lot of us who feel the same.

For fans like you I hope you get Mariota. I'm jaded by all the awful FSU Bucs fans who want Winston and have said they deserve him, but that's not fair to all the decent Bucs fans.

Guess you are referring to Cap you guys seem to be having a feud right now.I don't hold it against him that he is probably a Free Shoes University fan.I have read a lot of the stuff he posts over the years and he is usually spot on when it comes to the Bucs.Its just I really disagree with him on this and hope he iswrong.I think a persons character is going to become more and more important in todays NFL.As far as I am concerned Winston has no character and we should steer clear.I would like to see Mariota if we have to

draft a QB 1st.However I think there are other options available to us.Possibly trade the pick or go for

another position all together.Of course I am not a GM and don't pretend to have a clue on how to judge a

players talent other than what I see and hear.You guys continue the good fight I enjoy reading what you

both post.

 

[cstu]

You guys continue the good fight I enjoy reading what you both post.

It's been an eye opening experience to me. Prior to Capella's awful comments about a potential rape victim I was actually leaning towards giving Winston the benefit of the doubt. Now after reading/watching interviews I've done there virtually no chance that it was consensual sex.

 

[Soulfly3]

The amount of Chaos it's going to cause when Mariota goes #1 will be amazing to watch unfold, live, on thursday.

So much antici................

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pation

 

[Insein]

The amount of Chaos it's going to cause when Mariota goes #1 will be amazing to watch unfold, live, on thursday.

So much antici................

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pation

Whoa there we ain't got a time warp to next Thursday.

 

[Tool]

The amount of Chaos it's going to cause when Mariota goes #1 will be amazing to watch unfold, live, on thursday.

So much antici................

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pation

There's very little chance of this happening IMO. The talent differential is just too great.

 

[Faust]

Mayock: Jets should 'sprint' to pick Marcus Mariota No. 6

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000487702/article/mayock-jets-should-sprint-to-pick-marcus-mariota-no-6

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mariota had workout and visit with New York Jets

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000487807/article/marcus-mariota-had-workout-and-visit-with-new-york-jets

 

[Faust]

Eagles should 'mortgage future' for top QB:

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/11654/eagles-should-mortgage-future-for-top-qb

 

[cstu]

The amount of Chaos it's going to cause when Mariota goes #1 will be amazing to watch unfold, live, on thursday.

So much antici................

..............

pation

There's very little chance of this happening IMO. The talent differential is just too great.

Saved for posterity.

 

[Faust]

The Mariota Sweepstakes:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/53675/59/the-mariota-sweepstakes

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Ducks

Nashville Tennessean beat writer Jim Wyatt "won't be surprised" if the Titans pick Oregon QB Marcus Mariota No. 2 overall.

"The Titans are turning over every stone to make sure they don't let a potential franchise player slip away," Wyatt wrote. He reported a belief that the Titans originally didn't give much thought to popping Mariota -- preferring to stick with Zach Mettenberger and net an assured ransom in draft equity to move down the board -- but thinking within the team has apparently begun to change. With so many teams reportedly making offers for the No. 2 pick, it's also very possible that the Titans floated this change-in-thinking rhetoric to increase trade interest. One way or the other, Tennessee has masked their intentions as masterfully as Jacksonville did last year, when they stunned the football world by taking Blake Bortles.

Source: Nashville Tennessean

Apr 23 - 9:44 PM

 

[Tool]

The amount of Chaos it's going to cause when Mariota goes #1 will be amazing to watch unfold, live, on thursday.

So much antici................

..............

pation

There's very little chance of this happening IMO. The talent differential is just too great.

Saved for posterity.

Don't really love either guy.

 

[Faust]

NFL draft: Q&A with Oregon QB Marcus Mariota

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline reports both the Chargers and Eagles are "exploring the possibility" of trading up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota "through the Browns."

The Browns have two first-rounders, ammunition needed for the Chargers or Eagles to leapfrog into the top-two picks. (The Browns are also believed to be interested in Mariota, complicating matters.) A league source confirmed to Pauline that the Browns "hold the most powerful position in the draft," and "the ability to dictate" whether any team can pull off a trade up for Mariota.

Related: Eagles, Chargers, Browns

Source: TFY Draft Insider
Apr 23 - 11:58 AM

 

[cstu]

Marcus Mariota - QB - Player

In a poll of 19 NFL personnel executives asked to identify the top quarterback in this year's draft, Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston finished in a near-dead heat.

10-of-19 execs voted Winston as this year's top QB, while Mariota received nine first-place votes.

Eight predicted Winston would bust or "disappoint," however, while Mariota was only predicted to bust or disappoint by two personnel men.

In the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's points system based on the voting by scouts, Baylor's Bryce Petty finished as this year's No. 3 quarterback, with UCLA's Brett Hundley as the No. 4 and Colorado State's Garrett Grayson as the No. 5.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

Apr 24 - 1:01 AM

 

[cstu]

Why is there so much concern about Mariota adjusting the NFL when Derek Carr played in a similar spread offense with almost no snaps under center and rarely played against ranked teams?

Here is Carr against #4 Oregon and #24 Boise St.

Those are the only ranked teams he faced his last two years.

 

[cstu]

His last two years Mariota faced:

2014 - #5 Ohio State (nat'l championship), #2 Florida State, #8 Arizona, #20 Utah, #18 UCLA, #7 Michigan St.

2013 - #6 Stanford, #12 UCLA, #16 Washington

 

[Freelove]

Why is there so much concern about Mariota adjusting the NFL when Derek Carr played in a similar spread offense with almost no snaps under center and rarely played against ranked teams?

Here is Carr against

Concern among whom?NFL guys don't sound worried, given the results of those polls, and the consistent rumors that half the teams in the league are interested in making a huge move to acquire him.

The people who sound concerned are the ones who get their info primarily from Kiper, Mayock, and the rest of the crew whose professional credentials are based entirely on their insistence that they possess some.

"Don't draft system QB's," was a good rule of thumb in the 80's, when it essentially meant, "don't draft a QB from BYU or Houston, because the run and shoot props those guys up."

These days, rafts of info exist that can separate the wheat from the chaff, irrespective of system. The guys who earn their living making decisions for NFL teams don't seem at all concerned. The guys relying on their rules of thumb from the Robbie Bosco era do. Armchair draftniks mostly tune into the guys with websites and blogs. There's little value in that practice, IMO.

 

[bigmarc27]

I like Mariota as the top QB, but his downfield throws do concern me.

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mariota could be quick fantasy contributor

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Oregon QB Marcus Mariota is "a great athlete with all the measurables to be a success at any level even if he were a tailback in the old single wing offense," notes Frank Cooney of NFLDraftScout.com.

"The concern about soft-spoken, easy-going Mariota is his ability to be an assertive leader among men," Cooney wrote. The analyst points out that all the best NFL quarterbacks -- Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck -- didn't graduate from primarily run or option college offenses, while Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III, Cam Newton and Tim Tebow did. We aren't overly concerned about Mariota's transition to the pros. He's a dynamic talent and an elite prospect.

Source: CBS Sports
Apr 25 - 8:39 PM

 

[Faust]

Is Marcus Mariota, whom Jon Gruden and others believe can be great, worth the Browns 12 and 19 -- and more?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Player

Marcus Mariota "took fewer than 10 snaps under center" during his three years at Oregon.

The Heisman Trophy winner admitted he "hasn't huddled in a while," though Tennessee head coach Ken Whisenhunt liked what he saw from Mariota in a private workout. "Theyre athletes, high-functioning athletes," he said. "They can do it. You naturally think [Mariota] could make that transition." The knock on Mariota from the beginning has been that he doesn't have experience in a pro style offense. Oregon quarterbacks haven't had much success in the NFL in recent years (Joey Harrington and Kellen Clemens come to mind) but Mariota has the versatility and football IQ to buck that trend. Mariota won't need to adjust much if the Eagles trade up to draft him as some are expecting.

Source: Akron Beacon-Journal

Apr 26 - 11:14 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Ducks

NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock explained on Thursday why he ranks Oregon QB Marcus Mariota No. 1 on his position rankings.

The analyst is a bit spooked after missing on Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel prior to last year's NFL draft ("I have to put my hand up and say I missed that last year with Manziel, and I'm upset with myself," Mayock said.) and vows not to ignore character concerns again. "I've got (Marcus) Mariota one, because I believe in Mariota, but the other piece of that is, with Jameis Winston I've got trust issues both on and off the field. Do I trust him with the football on the field, given the way he turned the ball over, especially this year with 18 interceptions? It could have been 40 very easily," Mayock said. "Can I trust him with the ball, which is the most important thing during an NFL game. And two, can I trust him off the field? To me, those red flags are significant enough that my answer is, I would go the other way with Mariota."

Source: NFL.com

Apr 26 - 5:55 PM

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Ducks

NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock explained on Thursday why he ranks Oregon QB Marcus Mariota No. 1 on his position rankings.

The analyst is a bit spooked after missing on Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel prior to last year's NFL draft ("I have to put my hand up and say I missed that last year with Manziel, and I'm upset with myself," Mayock said.) and vows not to ignore character concerns again. "I've got (Marcus) Mariota one, because I believe in Mariota, but the other piece of that is, with Jameis Winston I've got trust issues both on and off the field. Do I trust him with the football on the field, given the way he turned the ball over, especially this year with 18 interceptions? It could have been 40 very easily," Mayock said. "Can I trust him with the ball, which is the most important thing during an NFL game. And two, can I trust him off the field? To me, those red flags are significant enough that my answer is, I would go the other way with Mariota."

Source: NFL.com

Apr 26 - 5:55 PM

Not just Manziel but Jamarcus too.

 

[Faust]

Former NFL QB coach Ted Tollner a believer in Marcus Mariota:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488264/article/former-nfl-qb-coach-ted-tollner-a-believer-in-marcus-mariota

 

[Tool]

Is Marcus Mariota, whom Jon Gruden and others believe can be great, worth the Browns 12 and 19 -- and more?

Gruden on manziel last year...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2014/04/18/johnny-manziel-jon-gruden-houston-texans/7857409/

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Player

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Browns "covet" Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

Rapoport reported earlier this evening that the Browns were exploring a trade into the top 10 and have talked with the Redskins about a move to No. 5 overall. That's unlikely to land Cleveland Mariota, who will likely be a top-two pick, and at the very least come off the board at No. 3 overall where the Jaguars would probably love to trade back. The Browns have ammo at their disposal.

Related: Redskins, Browns

Source: Around the NFL

Apr 27 - 7:26 PM

 

[cstu]

"Every single day he's not too high, he's not too low," senior receiver Keanon Lowe said. "He's a consistent person and treats everyone with respect. He comes to work every day and he works the hardest out of everyone. It's definitely inspiring. You want to to try to outwork Marcus, but you're not going to."

"You see the way he handles his business," senior linebacker Derrick Malone said. "That's natural leadership, and I think it rubs off on each and every one of us."

"Whenever he opens his mouth he has something good to say," said center Hroniss Grasu, one of Mariota's closest friends on the roster. "Marcus is the type of guy who won't just open his mouth to talk to hear himself talk. When he has to say something, that means he really means something — you better stop what you're doing to listen to whatever he's got to say."

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/12/how_oregons_marcus_mariota_and.html

 

[cstu]

Winston vs. Mariota as the top QB

Gruden: Who is Tampa going to take? Who should they take?

Kiper: Winston. That redshirt freshman season, what he did leading that team to a national title, never losing in his career until the Oregon game in the Rose Bowl last season, where it wasn't his fault. The refuse-to-lose mentality that he had even without two of his top three receivers and his running back, he still went out this year and led them to an undefeated season.

What about those interceptions? Well, how about the second halves of those games when he had to be flawless, and he was? All that stacks up to a quarterback who should be the No. 1 pick by a wide margin. The reason he is not is because of the off-field issues. Mariota has questions going from Oregon to the NFL. I will lean toward Winston as the No. 1 quarterback but in no way, shape or form am I convinced he can be an effective CEO of a football team.

Gruden: As much as I like Winston, I am taking Mariota. Athletically, he is incredible. The guy needs an S on his chest. Kryptonite can't slow down Mariota. You ever see Superman? Mariota allows you to call any play. You want to run a zone-read, you want to run quarterback-driven runs, you want to run a West Coast offense, you want to run anything, he can run it. He doesn't need great support around him at all these offensive line positions. Winston is a helluva quarterback. But you'd better get some protection for him. You'd better have a system in place with some audibles ready, because he is going to need them.

Kiper: Can Mariota be a great player in the league?

Gruden: I think he can get into the NFC South and be a championship quarterback if he is handled properly. He can create some of the problems Russell Wilson creates for defenses. Now I've got a few questions for you, Mel. Who is the better athlete? You got the times?

Kiper: Mariota.

Gruden: Who is the better decision-maker on the field when it comes to taking care of the football?

Kiper: Mariota.

Gruden: And who won when they played head-to-head?

Kiper: Mariota, but I don't care about that.

Gruden: I'm just saying, it seems to me that everything adds up to Mariota.

 

[cstu]

First Mariota Nike promo.

 

[cstu]

Asked if Mariota is the greatest Oregon quarterback ever, Fouts does not hesitate.

“No question,” he says. “You can’t argue with his numbers, and the person that he is. It’s just a real joy to watch him play. I couldn’t be happier for him. He’s so deserving of this honor. I’m looking forward to watching him at the next level.”

Fouts calls Mariota the “whole package,” noting that he consistently makes good decisions, which is crucial in Oregon’s fast-paced spread attack.

“He’s a bright young man, considerate, compassionate, and he’s a cool leader,” Fouts says. “By that I mean he always seems to keep his cool when everything else is falling around him.”

Fouts led the NFL in passing yards four straight years from 1979 to 1982, and he became the first player in league history to throw for 4,000 yards in three consecutive seasons. One of the most prolific NFL passers of the ’70s and ’80s, he made six Pro Bowls and in 1993 was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame

At Oregon in the early 1970s, Fouts set 19 school records, including those for career passing yardage (5,995) and total offense (5,871 yards). Mariota now holds those Oregon records — with 10,115 career passing yards and 12,261 yards of total offense — and many more.

So, if Mariota is the best ever quarterback at Oregon, is Fouts a close second?

“No, I don’t think so,” Fouts says. “After what he’s done in his career, I think there’s a big gap between him and whoever is second.”

 

[bucsbaby]

Is Marcus Mariota, whom Jon Gruden and others believe can be great, worth the Browns 12 and 19 -- and more?

Gruden on manziel last year...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2014/04/18/johnny-manziel-jon-gruden-houston-texans/7857409/

Gruden gushes about absolutely everyone. Can't take him seriously at all. Horrible analyst. Also don't get the love for him as a coach tbh.

 

[cstu]

Is Marcus Mariota, whom Jon Gruden and others believe can be great, worth the Browns 12 and 19 -- and more?

Gruden on manziel last year...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2014/04/18/johnny-manziel-jon-gruden-houston-texans/7857409/

Gruden gushes about absolutely everyone. Can't take him seriously at all. Horrible analyst. Also don't get the love for him as a coach tbh.

This is a time I think the broken clock is actually right.

 

[Grahamburn]

Is Marcus Mariota, whom Jon Gruden and others believe can be great, worth the Browns 12 and 19 -- and more?

Gruden on manziel last year...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2014/04/18/johnny-manziel-jon-gruden-houston-texans/7857409/

Gruden gushes about absolutely everyone. Can't take him seriously at all. Horrible analyst. Also don't get the love for him as a coach tbh.

He's just about the last person I'd listen to regarding talent evaluation. His drafts are one of the major reasons the Bucs haven't been to the playoffs in 10 years.

 

[Soulfly3]

ESPN says Browns has offered their 12+19 for the #2 pick

if he's on the board at 2, this may get done

 

[cstu]

ESPN says Browns has offered their 12+19 for the #2 pick

if he's on the board at 2, this may get done

If the Titans do that they will look back and

 

[B-Deep]

ESPN says Browns has offered their 12+19 for the #2 pick

if he's on the board at 2, this may get done

If the Titans do that they will look back and

I was thinking Mariota would look back and

 

[Soulfly3]

Andrew Hawkins may become an effing PPR monster w Mariota

Being very serious here

 

[mr roboto]

Please not the Browns. I have the 1.01 in a 2QB and I'm thinking MM is the pick but the Browns might scare me off.

 

[cstu]

ESPN says Browns has offered their 12+19 for the #2 pick

if he's on the board at 2, this may get done

If the Titans do that they will look back and

I was thinking Mariota would look back and

H-he can turn the Browns around...

 

[Boone22]

Andrew Hawkins may become an effing PPR monster w Mariota

Being very serious here

Or Hartline

 

[Freelove]

In this particular draft, I'd much rather have two picks in the 10-20 range than the #1 or #2 overall. I don't think there's any real talent discrepancy between the best players in the draft, and the next couple tiers. And I don't think the guys most likely to go #1 and #2 overall are anywhere near the best players in the draft in the first place.

 

[cstu]

Jim Rome ‏@jimrome 25m25 minutes ago

When asked about Jameis Winston, Mike Mayock told me “There’s a reason I’ve got Marcus Mariota number 1.”

 

[cstu]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 2h2 hours ago

Report: Mariota's camp believes Chargers, Eagles trying to trade up to pick him http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Lc6

 

[cstu]

In this particular draft, I'd much rather have two picks in the 10-20 range than the #1 or #2 overall. I don't think there's any real talent discrepancy between the best players in the draft, and the next couple tiers. And I don't think the guys most likely to go #1 and #2 overall are anywhere near the best players in the draft in the first place.

Now imagine your QB choices are McCown and Manziel.

 

[Freelove]

In this particular draft, I'd much rather have two picks in the 10-20 range than the #1 or #2 overall. I don't think there's any real talent discrepancy between the best players in the draft, and the next couple tiers. And I don't think the guys most likely to go #1 and #2 overall are anywhere near the best players in the draft in the first place.

Now imagine your QB choices are McCown and Manziel.

This is irrelevant to me when my team is full of needs, there will be good players to fill them at #12 and #19, and I rate the QB prospects available in the 2nd round and beyond as equal to or better than the guys going at the top of the first.

I do like Mariota. I think he's a very safe pick, but I don't think he can carry a franchise, and that's the kind of value you need to merit a high first selection as a QB. I'd be infinitely happier seeing CLE or TEN take two strong players at other positions, then any of Petty/Grayson/Hundley, if I were a fan of either franchise.

I think Mariota carries very strong value from the mid-first on, for a team with lots of building blocks in place, who needs a guy that won't lose games for them and has plenty of tools in his toolbox.

ETA: I do not think Winston merits a first day selection at all.

 

[Soulfly3]

I'm ALL about the Browns taking Mariota.

Keeping my hopes tempered... but please happen

 

[cstu]

In this particular draft, I'd much rather have two picks in the 10-20 range than the #1 or #2 overall. I don't think there's any real talent discrepancy between the best players in the draft, and the next couple tiers. And I don't think the guys most likely to go #1 and #2 overall are anywhere near the best players in the draft in the first place.

Now imagine your QB choices are McCown and Manziel.

This is irrelevant to me when my team is full of needs, there will be good players to fill them at #12 and #19, and I rate the QB prospects available in the 2nd round and beyond as equal to or better than the guys going at the top of the first.

I do like Mariota. I think he's a very safe pick, but I don't think he can carry a franchise, and that's the kind of value you need to merit a high first selection as a QB. I'd be infinitely happier seeing CLE or TEN take two strong players at other positions, then any of Petty/Grayson/Hundley, if I were a fan of either franchise.

I think Mariota carries very strong value from the mid-first on, for a team with lots of building blocks in place, who needs a guy that won't lose games for them and has plenty of tools in his toolbox.

ETA: I do not think Winston merits a first day selection at all.

Mariota has everything you want in a WCO QB.

Rivers was a Pro Bowl QB and completed just shy of 70% of his passes while only taking 3 snaps a game under center - under Whisenhunt in 2013.

I find it difficult to believe Mariota can't do the same once he learns the offense.

 

[Freelove]

In this particular draft, I'd much rather have two picks in the 10-20 range than the #1 or #2 overall. I don't think there's any real talent discrepancy between the best players in the draft, and the next couple tiers. And I don't think the guys most likely to go #1 and #2 overall are anywhere near the best players in the draft in the first place.

Now imagine your QB choices are McCown and Manziel.

This is irrelevant to me when my team is full of needs, there will be good players to fill them at #12 and #19, and I rate the QB prospects available in the 2nd round and beyond as equal to or better than the guys going at the top of the first.

I do like Mariota. I think he's a very safe pick, but I don't think he can carry a franchise, and that's the kind of value you need to merit a high first selection as a QB. I'd be infinitely happier seeing CLE or TEN take two strong players at other positions, then any of Petty/Grayson/Hundley, if I were a fan of either franchise.

I think Mariota carries very strong value from the mid-first on, for a team with lots of building blocks in place, who needs a guy that won't lose games for them and has plenty of tools in his toolbox.

ETA: I do not think Winston merits a first day selection at all.

Mariota has everything you want in a WCO QB.

Rivers was a Pro Bowl QB and completed just shy of 70% of his passes while only taking 3 snaps a game under center - under Whisenhunt in 2013.

I find it difficult to believe Mariota can't do the same once he learns the offense.

I do not think Mariota's college offense will hurt his pro ability. I question his upside based entirely on his combination of physical skills and personality/character.

Those same factors are why I think he has a very high floor. I see him as careful nearly to a fault. Even when he was in situations where his supporting cast clearly and utterly overwhelmed their opposition, he still played the game in a very cautious manner. That observation goes hand in hand with everything you hear about his personality, as well as what you hear from him directly in interviews. This is a guy with at least a bit of introvert in him.

That ain't bad. I'd say the same of Russ Wilson. And that style of play will probably be very similar to what best-case Mariota could bring, although I think Mariota has slightly better physical skills. He's going to be at his best managing a fairly conservative offense, only taking risks when they come with very little downside.

I do not see him as a similar prospect to Rivers at all. Just not ideal for a franchise in lead of leadership and identity. I wouldn't say he'd bust, even if taken first. I simply wouldn't feel he's an ideal fit for any teams in that first part of the draft, and think there are probably better values for their specific situations.

Of those with a chance to get him, the Bucs and the Rams, IMO, would be the best fits. But far from ideal.