QB Matt Stafford, LAR (2 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

I haven't seen any Lions fan argue Stafford is elite for years. He's the best QB the team has seen in 55 years, but we're talking about a franchise that has had one (1) Pro Bowl QB during that span (Landry, 1972).

Going into last season Stafford had a 1-23 record against teams that finished the regular season with a winning record.

http://basketfootball.com/matthew-stafford-is-1-23-vs-teams-with-a-winning-record/

2013: lost to @ ARI, @ GB, CIN, beat GB.

2-26 coming into this year.

2014: Beat GB, lost BUF, beat MIA. The Packers are likely to finish above .500, the Bills & Dolphins, not so much.

4-27 ATM

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TBD: NYG (3-6) W, @ CAR (3-5-1) L, NO (4-5), @ATL (3-6) W.

 

[matuski]

His talent is undeniably elite.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

His talent is undeniably elite.

That last throw to Riddick was a thing of beauty.

 

[RBM]

His talent is undeniably elite.

That last throw to Riddick was a thing of beauty.

Throw and catch were impressive. Gorgeous play.

 

[jurb26]

His talent is undeniably elite.

That last throw to Riddick was a thing of beauty.

The throw to Calvin before that in the back of the end zone was even more impressive. Too bad it was dropped or knocked away by the defender. The guy has an elite arm. When he's on, it's amazing to watch some of the throws he can make.

 

[zamboni]

His talent is undeniably elite.

That last throw to Riddick was a thing of beauty.

The throw to Calvin before that in the back of the end zone was even more impressive. Too bad it was dropped or knocked away by the defender. The guy has an elite arm. When he's on, it's amazing to watch some of the throws he can make.

And that one was on Calvin. He kind of laid back waiting for the ball to come to him instead of coming forward to get it. With his size and strength, would have been another TD.

 

[TartanLion]

He's always had the basic physical tools to become something really really good but it was always a question of whether

A) We could build a good enough O line and set of weapons around him to give him the best chance to succeed

And

B) Whether or not, with said team around him, he then could begin to hone the mental aspects of the game through experience and also receive the correct help to iron out some of his mechanical flaws.

There is a chance for Stafford to mature like a fine wine and become an elite quarterback if those things occur. There is a chance we have managed A right now and there is a chance we could be entering the second one but only time will tell.

 

[BobbyLayne]

The Detroit Lions quarterback has broken Dan Marion's record as the fastest man to 20,000 passing yards in NFL history.

Yeah.

 

[Ladsud]

Below average

 

[Smack Tripper]

Caldwell sucks

 

[RBM]

Sucks. Destroyed my season two years in a row.

 

[mbuehner]

 

[BobbyLayne]

Single digit handicap. Gonna crush the Celebrity Golf Tour when his mediocre career ends.

 

[mbuehner]

Didnt help that he had two touchdowns dropped, but I have no idea why this offense is so bad. So much for the theory that they were winning games so throttle back the offense.

 

[mullenium]

####, he's killing my team, locked into playoffs but I'm scared to keep trotting him out

 

[mbuehner]

####, he's killing my team, locked into playoffs but I'm scared to keep trotting him out

Same here. Meanwhile every stiff in the league is posting 300 and 2. Stafford is matchup proof- he blows regardless of who hes playing. What to do, what to do.

 

[drfeelgood]

####, he's killing my team, locked into playoffs but I'm scared to keep trotting him out

He would have had a nice fantasy day had his receivers not dropped several passes, including two touchdowns. His OL isn't giving him much time either. He has a nice schedule ahead, and I would hang on to him.

 

[joffer]

terrible

 

[BobbyLayne]

BEFORE Waddle got hurt the line has been subpar. Swanson did OK in relief a few weeks ago but has had two bad games. LT Reilly Raiff went down on the first snap and his replacement is a UDFA rookie (Cornelius Lucas). RG Rob Sims has been bad all year. Raiola is retiring this year. Warford missed time due to injury. Even when healthy this group is solidly below average.

Stafford has consistently feasted on bad teams. He is 0-16 v. teams with a winning record during his career. Not much better at home (around 4-11 lifetime).

Is what it is.

 

[HughHoney]

His feet first slide on 4th and 10 that was short of the marker was the most gutless play I've seen all season. Easily could have made the first down by diving head first or taking on the defender.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

####, he's killing my team, locked into playoffs but I'm scared to keep trotting him out

He would have had a nice fantasy day had his receivers not dropped several passes, including two touchdowns. His OL isn't giving him much time either. He has a nice schedule ahead, and I would hang on to him.

Yes, he can still do things but not on the road against good defenses. Starting to remind me of Jeff George.

 

[zamboni]

Used to be a no-brainer that if you owned Stafford, you'd start him on Thanksgiving Day and enjoy the big offensive production.

Can't say I feel that way this year/week and am looking for other options.

 

[Gvindy]

Used to be a no-brainer that if you owned Stafford, you'd start him on Thanksgiving Day and enjoy the big offensive production.

Can't say I feel that way this year/week and am looking for other options.

Sanchez in over Stafford for my Turkey Day enjoyment. Stafford can't do much even in garbage time. This new system might be partially to blame. He is now being consistently outscored by guys like Mettenberger. Virtually droppable in 1qb leagues IMO.

 

[georg013]

Starting Stafford WITH CONFIDENCE this week at home against the Bears. The worst is behind and I anticpate a huge 4 week stretch to make owners forget about the past 12. Go ahead and save this post. I've been wrong before.

 

[lod01]

So far Ebron stinks. He's not helping the offense.

'Slightly overrated' with the potential for 'way overrated'.

 

[georg013]

I whiffed on Ebron BIG TIME. Ready for it? Spent the 1.04 for him. I pick before OBJ. Got Watkins with the 1.01.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Matthew Stafford has been sacked 33 times this season, just three off his career-worst mark from 2011.
Only Colin Kaepernick has been sacked more times this season (34). Stafford is getting taken down once every 12.6 dropbacks, a preposterous number that's helped contribute to his recent anemic play. Things may not get any better in Week 13, as there's a good chance the Lions will be missing LT Riley Reiff (knee) on a short week.

Source: MLive.com
Nov 25 - 6:52 PM

 

[Futz]

Starting Stafford WITH CONFIDENCE this week at home against the Bears. The worst is behind and I anticpate a huge 4 week stretch to make owners forget about the past 12. Go ahead and save this post. I've been wrong before.

Let me say this as a dedicated Lion's homer, he MAY put up a good game against the Bears this week but there's no way anyone should have confidence in that. He's hearing footsteps after 33 sacks and can't wait to get rid of the ball even when he doesn't need to which translates into incompletion after incompletion. This is happening while he has the best WR in the game and now a potential pro bowler in Tate lining up outside. The offensive line is an absolute wreck right now and the TEs in this offense are non existent. Add in the fact that his starting LT and best linemen Riley Reiff is injured and possible out for this game and all bets are off.

He never was accurate. Go back and check his completion % in college. It was 57 % THEN and that's college where receivers run wide open on every play. I don't dislike Stafford. I think he's a tough kid with one of the strongest arms in the game but the surrounding cast has to completely support him for him to succeed. He doesn't make the players around him better, it's the other way around.

He's thrown 13 TDS this season. That puts him 19th in the league in that category with a defense that's giving him the ball wayyyyyyy more than often in the past and with wayyyyyy better field position than he's ever known in his career. It's just my .02 but his days are numbered as the Lion's QB.

If you are pinning your hopes to him down the playoff stretch (despite his enticing schedule), you are throwing darts in the dark.

 

[DoubleG]

Starting Stafford WITH CONFIDENCE this week at home against the Bears. The worst is behind and I anticpate a huge 4 week stretch to make owners forget about the past 12. Go ahead and save this post.

Oh thank God!! As a Bears fan I was really afraid Stafford was going to have a BIG day - but you went and posted this.

 

[georg013]

Starting Stafford WITH CONFIDENCE this week at home against the Bears. The worst is behind and I anticpate a huge 4 week stretch to make owners forget about the past 12. Go ahead and save this post.

Oh thank God!! As a Bears fan I was really afraid Stafford was going to have a BIG day - but you went and posted this.

Started with confidence.

 

[Gvindy]

Will lure enough owners to start him against Tampa and he will crush their playoff hopes.

 

[georg013]

Right. At home against Tampa Bay. I see it. They are a better team than the Bears. Continue to play scared if you like. I'm all in on Stafford through the playoffs!

 

[Gvindy]

Right. At home against Tampa Bay. I see it. They are a better team than the Bears. Continue to play scared if you like. I'm all in on Stafford through the playoffs!

Exactly my point. They'll go up by 2 td and run, run, run. Would rather start Orton v Denver, pass, pass, pass.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Staff had 17.00 at the half; finished with 21.60. Sat him for Brady per usual.

 

[georg013]

Started him with confidence two weeks in a row! Lol. Like my chances next week too at home against the Vikings. He has looked efficient and confident. Amazing what home cooking will do!

 

[cstu]

####ing Bledsoe, er.., Stafford.

 

[lod01]

Stafford can go hang with Dalton.

 

[mbuehner]

Consistently disappointing.

 

[Steed]

Bigger coach killer? Staff or Cutty? Factor in time in the league

 

[msudaisy26]

Bigger coach killer? Staff or Cutty? Factor in time in the league

Cutler and it isn't even close.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Matthew played well today. He wasn't part of the reason they lost today. I'm not a huge fan of his but this one isn't on him.

 

[cstu]

Matthew played well today. He wasn't part of the reason they lost today. I'm not a huge fan of his but this one isn't on him.

He fumbled on the last two drives of the game.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Matthew played well today. He wasn't part of the reason they lost today. I'm not a huge fan of his but this one isn't on him.

He fumbled on the last two drives of the game.

Neither of which impacted the game. The first fumble was negated by the Dallas defender fumbled it right back - first down Lions. The last turnover came when protection broke down and he was sacked [on 4th down]. Game over even if he doesn't fumble.

 

[IHEARTFF]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

 

[IHEARTFF]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

Oh I misread the boxscore, but their offense sputtered after the 1st q. Even then they were bailed out by a running into the punter.

 

[Tool]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

Oh I misread the boxscore, but their offense sputtered after the 1st q. Even then they were bailed out by a running into the punter.

well, they would have likely scored more points if it weren't for the reverse of the PI. And they may have been bailed out by the running into the kicker but they also started that drive at the 6 inch line.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

Oh I misread the boxscore, but their offense sputtered after the 1st q. Even then they were bailed out by a running into the punter.

All season. Partly the line play, no third option, lack of RB production, virtually no TE involvement. Mostly I think it's on Lombardi - it's his scheme, his play calling.

He deserves another year, Stafford cut his turnovers way down under him. But you look at the balls out go for jugular play calling from Kubiak yesterday, and you just know Lombardi has never shown that kind of trust. Not a deep receiving corps ATM but most OCs would kill to have these kind of weapons.

 

[cstu]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

Oh I misread the boxscore, but their offense sputtered after the 1st q. Even then they were bailed out by a running into the punter.

All season. Partly the line play, no third option, lack of RB production, virtually no TE involvement. Mostly I think it's on Lombardi - it's his scheme, his play calling.

He deserves another year, Stafford cut his turnovers way down under him. But you look at the balls out go for jugular play calling from Kubiak yesterday, and you just know Lombardi has never shown that kind of trust. Not a deep receiving corps ATM but most OCs would kill to have these kind of weapons.

He cut his INT's down but that was partially due decreasing his attempts. His INT rate (2.0) wasn't much lower than 2011 and 2012 (2.4 and 2.3).

His fumbles (8) are down from 2013, but still the 2nd highest of his career.

His 45 sacks was a career high, despite the fewest attempts he's had since playing a full season.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They scored 6 points in the last 52 minutes, so I don't think he did so well after all.

48 minutes but good point regardless.

Oh I misread the boxscore, but their offense sputtered after the 1st q. Even then they were bailed out by a running into the punter.

All season. Partly the line play, no third option, lack of RB production, virtually no TE involvement. Mostly I think it's on Lombardi - it's his scheme, his play calling.

He deserves another year, Stafford cut his turnovers way down under him. But you look at the balls out go for jugular play calling from Kubiak yesterday, and you just know Lombardi has never shown that kind of trust. Not a deep receiving corps ATM but most OCs would kill to have these kind of weapons.

He cut his INT's down but that was partially due decreasing his attempts. His INT rate (2.0) wasn't much lower than 2011 and 2012 (2.4 and 2.3).

His fumbles (8) are down from 2013, but still the 2nd highest of his career.

His 45 sacks was a career high, despite the fewest attempts he's had since playing a full season.

Interception rate 2013: one every 33.3 pass attempts

Interception rate 2014: one every 50.1 pass attempts

Lost Fumbles by year:

2012 - 4

2013 - 4

2014 - 3

The O-line was a point of weakness all year, in part due to injury, but mostly because it's a collection of UDFA and old guys who regressed.

LT - Riley Reiff - probably the most consistent lineman. Not saying a lot, and was horrendous on the last drive of the season (every pressure was his guy).

LG - Rob Sims - good news is the 9 year vet played every snap for the season; bad news, regressed badly in pass protection.

C - Dom Raiola - graded out as one of the worst centers in the league, needs to retire, was dominated often.

RG - Larry Warford missed 4-5 games; Travis Swanson was pleasant surprise, as was Garret Reynolds.

RT - LaAdrian Waddle - one of two UDFA who started the right side last year, missed half the year. Cornelius Lucas (another UDFA) was terrible at times but made progress.