QB Patrick Mahomes II, KC (2 Viewers)

[Soulfly3]

Imagine Mike Evans was available at the trade deadline?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Has this offense become too Nagy-fied to be effective?

 

[Drake Hater]

Rice may be their best WR but he needs reps

Yes. Their WR usage is baffling, and not in the good "fool the defense" kind of way. Let this guy loose.

 

[Drake Hater]

Has this offense become too Nagy-fied to be effective?

Probably Reid centered but Nagy is a downgrade from EB.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

This team is in trouble this year. Their WRs can't catch. Mahomes did Mahomes things last night but his WRs let him down, again. Does anyone really think this is going to change? Rice may be their best WR but he needs reps. This team may need to spend a first rounder on a WR next season and should aggressively pursue someone like Tee Higgins in FA.

As another poster smartly pointed out in the game thread, this is circa 2006 when Hoodie left Brady to figure things out with Reche Caldwell being his top WR.

Reid and Veach failed to address it, and the results are obvious. They have a top D and it's going to be wasted by this dreadful decision.

They failed, I agree, but not due to lack of effort. Rice looks like a good pick in round 2 in what appears to be a relatively weak WR draft class. Moore seems like another round 2 receiver that could be something with development. Toney looks great with the ball in his hands but has the football IQ of a rock. They're not going to win throwing to Watson and MVS with them dropping passes, so why keep them in there? They will drop important passes in the playoffs, just like the regular season, that's what they do and a bad drop in January can send you home.

So why not give the other guys more reps? Is a bad route here or there any worse than MVS dropping a game winning TD? Or Watson killing a final drive letting a pass go right through his hands? Figure out what you have. You only need one reliable WR along with Kelce, Pacheco and that nasty defense to win in January/February. Might as well see if you have on your roster.

Bottom line, they need to spend some money and real draft capital on pass catchers next year. There is some great talent coming in 2024, both in free agency and the draft, it's time to get a little more aggressive. Kelce's getting a little long in the tooth and he and his brother's retirement talk is starting to heat up. If one calls it quits, my bet is both call it quits. Ride off into the sunset with their podcast and TV deals. Both guys are intelligent, charismatic, and really understand the game. There would be jobs waiting for either at any major network should they choose to go that route.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Has this offense become too Nagy-fied to be effective?

Probably Reid centered but Nagy is a downgrade from EB.

I don't really see a problem with play-calling, but outside of the drops on the final drive, Watson had a couple place where he simply went to the wrong place on the field for the play called. MVS had another deep pass where he got all turned around and let the ball hit the ground where he had a defender beat, again killing a drive. I just don't see the point of having these guys in the game. They're not executing. Rep allocation appears questionable, but I say that from the outside looking in having no idea what really goes on W-Sa each week.

 

[crushedspirit]

Whatever they thought they had is not what it is. Kelce is aging and looks slow, plus they could have kept JJSS, but let him walk out the door with his 78 catches for 933 yards.

No deep threat, and no safety valve once Kelce is bracketed. Big failure and it will cost them a long playoff run.

 

[Drake Hater]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

 

[jobarules]

I don't know why people are laughing at my post. He's obviously still the best QB in football but he's no longer a fantasy stud. 1st qb taken in 2nd round and he's 8th qb is not good.

Watch what he does with his schedule the next 2 months...........

I'm waiting

So am I

424 and 4 work for you?

How about 9 pts vs denver?

He's had 1 good week, that's it.

Guy above had the nerve to say I TOLD YA SO after one good game in 7 weeks. Today he looked AWFUL.

Following up on this

 

[jobarules]

I don't know why people are laughing at my post. He's obviously still the best QB in football but he's no longer a fantasy stud. 1st qb taken in 2nd round and he's 8th qb is not good.

Watch what he does with his schedule the next 2 months...........

QB8
QB1
QB30
QB10 with Herbert still to play

QB13

 

[Ray_T]

hey failed, I agree, but not due to lack of effort.

true. the effort was there.

it was the brutal drops that killed this team. (that and the turnovers)

there are at least 4 drops that I can count that would have made a huge difference in the game (and probably a couple I missed while I was downstairs tending to dinner in the early part of the game). some of those drops absolutely killed the momentum of the team.

the one in the endzone was an absolute killer. thats a game winning TD.

that last drive by the chiefs had more drops than catches and in my opinion many of those were catchable balls. Brutal. If I was a KC fan I'd be choked.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

 

[Ray_T]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

I'm not sure he's durable and/or tough enough for a Deebo role but I see what you're saying. Get the ball in this guy's hands and good things seem to happen. You don't even have to be a decent route runner to do what we're suggesting. Toney reminds me a lot of Percy Harvin.

 

[ChiefD]

Has this offense become too Nagy-fied to be effective?

Has this offense become too Nagy-fied to be effective?

Probably Reid centered but Nagy is a downgrade from EB.

Nagy is a downgrade but not in the way you think.

Bienenemy was the enforcer. He was the guy at practice who was meticulous about all the little things. The crisp route running. Everyone knowing their assignments. Playing smart football without the penalties. And he would get up in people's grills in practice and games when they weren't doing things the right way. And he was not afraid to speak his mind to the players AND Andy Reid.

Nagy is another yes man. Reid is typically a players coach.

Bienenemy was the a-hole. And THAT's what they are missing.

 

[Football Jones]

A generational QB, nice OL, decent running game, & an elite D should win some more Super Bowls.

You didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see how this was going to play out with their WR corps. My guess is they bite the bullet & go after a dawg in FA. I don’t think they can take a chance in the draft.

 

[leftcoastheel]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

I'm not sure he's durable and/or tough enough for a Deebo role but I see what you're saying. Get the ball in this guy's hands and good things seem to happen. You don't even have to be a decent route runner to do what we're suggesting. Toney reminds me a lot of Percy Harvin.

I think Rice is more of their Deebo player. Toney is a knucklehead and a gadget player.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

I'm not sure he's durable and/or tough enough for a Deebo role but I see what you're saying. Get the ball in this guy's hands and good things seem to happen. You don't even have to be a decent route runner to do what we're suggesting. Toney reminds me a lot of Percy Harvin.

I think Rice is more of their Deebo player. Toney is a knucklehead and a gadget player.

Toney isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but he's an athletic freak and an extremely dangerous player with the ball in his hands. Defenses must account for him at all times regardless of his low football IQ. There's a place for him in this offense, but I don't believe he will ever be a true #1. The Percy Harvin comp is pretty good at this stage in his career IMO. Being a gadget player isn't a bad thing if you're only asked to do what you're good at. Toney has strengths, and also a lot of weaknesses.

Rice is not Deebo, Deebo-lite or anything close. No one is. Deebo is Deebo because he's extremely physical and runs like an angry Derek Henry when they give him the ball. I won't take credit for the comp, but Waldman's Aiyuk comparison for Rice is about as spot on as you can get for the guy and his career trajectory could also be similar if he refines his route running, just a little, and above all takes the time and effort to get on the same page as Mahomes.

 

[jobarules]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

I'm not sure he's durable and/or tough enough for a Deebo role but I see what you're saying. Get the ball in this guy's hands and good things seem to happen. You don't even have to be a decent route runner to do what we're suggesting. Toney reminds me a lot of Percy Harvin.

I think Rice is more of their Deebo player. Toney is a knucklehead and a gadget player.

Rice is a slot guy. He's nothing like deebo

 

[Todem]

I don't really see a problem with play-calling,

Agreed. It's the personnel usage that's on Nagy and Reid, not play calling.

How long before McKinnon vaults up the reception charts?

Moore and Rice can actually catch. Toney is hard to get on the ground with the ball in his hands. Why not just throw Moore and Rice on the outside with Toney in the slot running quick outs, screens, end arounds and drags? Let them try to get on the same page as Mahomes and better understand how NFL defenses function and attack their strengths and weaknesses. It can't be worse than guys flat dropping balls. The Chiefs will be a quick out in the playoffs with MVS and Watson on the outside and that's just sad considering they have the best QB in football, maybe the best TE to ever play the game, and a plus RB that can do it all including wear down a defense. If anyone can figure it out and do what's necessary here, it's Andy Reid. Chiefs should have won last night easily, but ended up taking the L, some hard truths are going to have to be acknowledged and addressed in the coming weeks.

you know, at one point in the game Toney had a couple carries in a short period of time and I got to thinking..... geez, he looks a bit like Deebo in terms of how they are using him and that got the wheels spinning. he did seem to show that knack to find the hole when running the football. maybe they should try this out a little more. a Deebo type player could be a very nice addition to this offense and if Toney can improve on the receiving side, you got a poor mans Deebo.

Toney is a total turd. 2 cent head, highly injury prone.....and questionable hands.

The Chiefs will move on from him. Next draft and free agency they gotta address the WR room.

Tee Higgins would be a beast in this offense.

 

[massraider]

Toney is a total turd. 2 cent head, highly injury prone.....and questionable hands.

The Chiefs will move on from him. Next draft and free agency they gotta address the WR room.

Tee Higgins would be a beast in this offense.

If we assume Higgins is re-signed, Tyler Boyd would make a ton of sense.

Hollywood Brown would be a lot of fun.

 

[crushedspirit]

They need an X type WR, and Higgins followed by Pittman Jr fit that easily.

They could then draft a quality speed type to stretch the field.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

They need an X type WR, and Higgins followed by Pittman Jr fit that easily.

They could then draft a quality speed type to stretch the field.

Sutton might fit the bill as well but I'm not sure I like his work ethic and effort. Higgins would be the guy I threw everything at to bring to KC. There is elite talent coming into the NFL in 2024 that should be able to be had at any stage of round 1 or 2. Pick up a solid FA and draft a WR. It has to be done. If Kelce unexpectedly retires, this team is a hot mess on offense unless they shore up their pass catching sitution.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Toney is a total turd. 2 cent head, highly injury prone.....and questionable hands.

The Chiefs will move on from him. Next draft and free agency they gotta address the WR room.

Tee Higgins would be a beast in this offense.

If we assume Higgins is re-signed, Tyler Boyd would make a ton of sense.

Hollywood Brown would be a lot of fun.

Can the Bengals afford Higgins? I mean, I guess that "can" if needed, but will they want to pay that much to a #2 WR? My bet is he goes elsewhere. Chase is the man there and they're going to have to throw a ton of cash at him, maybe as soon as next season to keep him happy. They can find a Tee replacement in the draft.

 

[massraider]

Can the Bengals afford Higgins? I mean, I guess that "can" if needed, but will they want to pay that much to a #2 WR? My bet is he goes elsewhere.

70 mill in cap space. They are fine

 

[Ray_T]

Toney is a total turd. 2 cent head, highly injury prone.....and questionable hands.

The Chiefs will move on from him. Next draft and free agency they gotta address the WR room.

Tee Higgins would be a beast in this offense.

If we assume Higgins is re-signed, Tyler Boyd would make a ton of sense.

Hollywood Brown would be a lot of fun.

he would be a lot of fun and probably affordable.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

He is what he has been... a roster clogger.

Can't start. Can't trade. Can't cut.

But legit league winner upside, rather him
On my roster than someone else’s

Precisely why he falls into the Can't Cut category. Still, this situation with wily McDaniel apt to do who knows what any given week is a recipe for extreme . Roster is clogged - can only hope now for some draino soon.

Can the Bengals afford Higgins? I mean, I guess that "can" if needed, but will they want to pay that much to a #2 WR? My bet is he goes elsewhere.

70 mill in cap space. They are fine

I said they can, but I guess I should have asked whether or not they want to pay him as a #1 which his talent command, especially considering they will have to extend Chase next year if they’re smart, two years if they must? This team has other needs to fill. I don’t believe he stays in Cinci.

 

[Buckna]

He is what he has been... a roster clogger.

Can't start. Can't trade. Can't cut.

But legit league winner upside, rather him
On my roster than someone else’s

Precisely why he falls into the Can't Cut category. Still, this situation with wily McDaniel apt to do who knows what any given week is a recipe for extreme . Roster is clogged - can only hope now for some draino soon.

Can the Bengals afford Higgins? I mean, I guess that "can" if needed, but will they want to pay that much to a #2 WR? My bet is he goes elsewhere.

70 mill in cap space. They are fine

I said they can, but I guess I should have asked whether or not they want to pay him as a #1 which his talent command, especially considering they will have to extend Chase next year if they’re smart, two years if they must? This team has other needs to fill. I don’t believe he stays in Cinci.

Lots of speculation Higgins would get the Franchise Tag for 2024 if they can’t make #’s for an extension work. Any team looking to acquire would probably have to trade a 1st + and give a big $ extension. Seems doubtful Chiefs would do that. Davante Adams would be cheaper to acquire and wouldn’t need a new extension but the Jets seem likely to go after him (as they apparently tried to acquire him prior to the trade deadline.)

Ridley, Mike Evans, (Pittman probably gets resigned), and Marquis Brown are all names that may be available as FA’s. Chiefs have space (most of which will probably go to a Chris Jones extension) but can create a bunch more space as multiple players have big base salaries and surely they are going to cut MVS’ worthless butt.

 

[crushedspirit]

Saw a stat somewhere that 21% of his incompletions have been drops LOL

 

[LawFitz]

Saw a stat somewhere that 21% of his incompletions have been drops LOL

 

[Fezza]

Do I consider dropping Mahomes for someone like Stafford or Love.. someone who is playing well.

I'm so torn and I honestly didn't think QB would be a problem spot for me this year. I'm guaranteed play offs but he could end up costing me.

 

[TampaMike19]

Do I consider dropping Mahomes for someone like Stafford or Love.. someone who is playing well.

I'm so torn and I honestly didn't think QB would be a problem spot for me this year. I'm guaranteed play offs but he could end up costing me.

Never drop Mahomes- try to trade him. There has to be someone else to drop on your roster- you can start someone else but you need to ask yourself what's worse- not starting him, or watching an opponent start him against you in the playoffs and he blows up?

 

[Drake Hater]

Terrible fantasy season from this guy. Won't be going early QB in next year's redraft.

 

[jobarules]

Do I consider dropping Mahomes for someone like Stafford or Love.. someone who is playing well.

I'm so torn and I honestly didn't think QB would be a problem spot for me this year. I'm guaranteed play offs but he could end up costing me.

I can see dropping him for Love

 

[jobarules]

I traded for Mahomes this week. Other owner also had Tua and was 1-3. Wanted to pounce when Mahomes had an iffy game as he did vs the Jets. Chiefs schedule the next 2 months is ridiculous. All green vs the pass against sieve defenses. Traded Ekeler and Dak for Mahomes and Pacheco. 6 point TD league.

I don't know why people are laughing at my post. He's obviously still the best QB in football but he's no longer a fantasy stud. 1st qb taken in 2nd round and he's 8th qb is not good.

Watch what he does with his schedule the next 2 months...........

Since this post:

Week 6: Mahomes QB8, Dak QB3
Week 7: Mahomes QB1, Dak BYE
Week 8: Mahomes QB30, Dak QB3
Week 9: Mahomes QB10, Dak QB2
Week 10: Mahomes BYE, Dak QB1
Week 11: Mahomes QB13, Dak QB15
Week 12: Mahomes QB9, Dak QB3
Week 13: Mahomes QB17, Dak QB3

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Saw a stat somewhere that 21% of his incompletions have been drops LOL

If true why is he ranked higher than Stroud this week? I get it Texans are playing Jets but Tua threw all over them..is it because Jets are at home? If Mahomes has a 21% incompletions are drops that won't suddenly change.

 

[leftcoastheel]

One of the worst non-injury picks of my career. Still in the play offs on both Mahomes teams, but man I am adding a backup in Dobbs or Browning.

 

[jobarules]

One of the worst non-injury picks of my career. Still in the play offs on both Mahomes teams, but man I am adding a backup in Dobbs or Browning.

Same and I would say solely the reason I am 4-9 and missing the playoffs for the first time in a LONG time. My first two picks were JJ (missed 7 weeks due to injury) and Mahomes.

Not only that I drafted Purdy in the last round and dropped him because I told myself I dont need a backup QB, I have Mahomes. Then I picked up Howell and Stroud as backups in the first few weeks and dropped them as well because I had Mahomes. Just brutal

 

[Judge Smails]

Terrible fantasy season from this guy. Won't be going early QB in next year's redraft.

I’ll be targeting him big time. KC will address the weapons issue. Sadly won’t be able to save this season though. Play calling has Alain been an issue. All of their cute plays they used to at the goal line with Kelce/McKinnon etc have not worked this year. Shovel passes. Quick outs etc

 

[Judge Smails]

I traded for Mahomes this week. Other owner also had Tua and was 1-3. Wanted to pounce when Mahomes had an iffy game as he did vs the Jets. Chiefs schedule the next 2 months is ridiculous. All green vs the pass against sieve defenses. Traded Ekeler and Dak for Mahomes and Pacheco. 6 point TD league.

I don't know why people are laughing at my post. He's obviously still the best QB in football but he's no longer a fantasy stud. 1st qb taken in 2nd round and he's 8th qb is not good.

Watch what he does with his schedule the next 2 months...........

Since this post:

Week 6: Mahomes QB8, Dak QB3
Week 7: Mahomes QB1, Dak BYE
Week 8: Mahomes QB30, Dak QB3
Week 9: Mahomes QB10, Dak QB2
Week 10: Mahomes BYE, Dak QB1
Week 11: Mahomes QB13, Dak QB15
Week 12: Mahomes QB9, Dak QB3
Week 13: Mahomes QB17, Dak QB3

Dak has played out of his mind. No question. And Mahomes hasn’t

 

[leftcoastheel]

One of the worst non-injury picks of my career. Still in the play offs on both Mahomes teams, but man I am adding a backup in Dobbs or Browning.

Same and I would say solely the reason I am 4-9 and missing the playoffs for the first time in a LONG time. My first two picks were JJ (missed 7 weeks due to injury) and Mahomes.

Not only that I drafted Purdy in the last round and dropped him because I told myself I dont need a backup QB, I have Mahomes. Then I picked up Howell and Stroud as backups in the first few weeks and dropped them as well because I had Mahomes. Just brutal

Ouch! My two teams with Mahomes are otherwise totally stacked... sucks having to offset the 10 extra points (you're actually getting the #$^$ing opposite, 10 points down vs good QBs) you supposedly paid for in the QB slot by having to nail every other slot in your starting lineup. JJ not helping you there.

I went QB early this year in general just wanting to have strong conviction in a weekly lead at the position and then trusting I could further separate by good drafting and management for the rest of my roster. Stung me this year... whether logical or not I will NOT be utilizing the QB early strategy next year.

GL bro.

 

[Drake Hater]

KC will address the weapons issue.

I hope so. If they actually do this then my position is fluid

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I traded for Mahomes this week. Other owner also had Tua and was 1-3. Wanted to pounce when Mahomes had an iffy game as he did vs the Jets. Chiefs schedule the next 2 months is ridiculous. All green vs the pass against sieve defenses. Traded Ekeler and Dak for Mahomes and Pacheco. 6 point TD league.

I don't know why people are laughing at my post. He's obviously still the best QB in football but he's no longer a fantasy stud. 1st qb taken in 2nd round and he's 8th qb is not good.

Watch what he does with his schedule the next 2 months...........

Since this post:

Week 6: Mahomes QB8, Dak QB3
Week 7: Mahomes QB1, Dak BYE
Week 8: Mahomes QB30, Dak QB3
Week 9: Mahomes QB10, Dak QB2
Week 10: Mahomes BYE, Dak QB1
Week 11: Mahomes QB13, Dak QB15
Week 12: Mahomes QB9, Dak QB3
Week 13: Mahomes QB17, Dak QB3

Dak has played out of his mind. No question. And Mahomes hasn’t

I’d argue that Mahomes has played at his usual level, but his offensive weapons have let him down.

MVS running bad routes or dropping balls is killing him.

So many deep balls with nothing to show for it. If even half of those are caught, we’re not even having this discussion.

 

[Drake Hater]

If it weren't for other QB injuries Mahomes probably wouldn't be in the top 10 fantasy QB rankings this season. I'm hoping he's able to refocus after embarrassing himself this weekend so that he's at least startable. Not confident in that however. Pats are very down this year but no one wants to go into Foxboro in a fragile mental state against a Belichick defense.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

I have worries as well. Contemplating dealing him in dynasty due to very subpar performance. One like last night will get me knocked out of playoffs quickly.

 

[Rubi]

I think the frustration of not having a wide receiver he can count on is getting to him.

 

[jobarules]

I think the frustration of not having a wide receiver he can count on is getting to him.

He has a stud TE and Rice has been really good. Yeah the other guys suck I get it but at what point does the finger not get pointed at him?

 

[jobarules]

Who Josh Allen throwing to? A stud WR, a rookie TE, Gabe 0 target Davis, Shakir? His weapons aren't much better

 

[Rubi]

I think the frustration of not having a wide receiver he can count on is getting to him.

He has a stud TE and Rice has been really good. Yeah the other guys suck I get it but at what point does the finger not get pointed at him?

One stud won't get you very far. Listen to guys like Romo who know the game very well,they talk about the drops of course that KC leads the league in but also the terrible routes the receivers run. It's a constant theme in KC games.

 

[Drake Hater]

I bought the excuse of poor weapons earlier this year but Flacco, Zappe and other "lesser" QBs have had success with less.