QB Philip Rivers, IND (7 Viewers)

[habsfan]

When the Seahawks say they are going to review the "tape"on Philip Rivers...they mean it literally

Probably 8-Track or cassette. We're in the realm of Columbia House.

 

[Desert_Power]

NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Colts QB Philip Rivers has “a very real chance” to start Week 15 against the Seahawks.

I've joked in this thread just because I seems like movie or something. I'm still in shock they even signed him to the practice squad? He might start? OMG. I'll be cheering for him though. Who wouldn't.

Gotta admire the Colts for going down swinging at least.

 

[warpig33]

I got some 411 from the sports talk radio here in Indy.

Rivers and Steichen have a relationship from their days in LA when Steichen was an intern and Rivers was QB. Rivers also helped mentor Riley Leonard in college and is not far from Riley's family (or something like that). Rivers runs Steichen's offense in the high school he coaches for. They made it sound like Rivers is doing a solid for a friend.

Thats gotta be the main factor. Their friendship. I can understand why Rivers would come back then. But damn I'm afraid for the guy. Don't want to see gramps hurt! I like the guy!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm not expecting much, and I doubt the Colts were expecting to have as good of a record as they currently do coming into this season. That is why they are making this move.

Rivers is their best and only chance at continuing the run. The alternative is to just give up and throw away their 8-5 record.

It really is too bad Danny Dimes got hurt after the deadline. Especially for the Colts, but especially especially for the FF community. And that goes double for the SF community.

Feels like we were collectively denied our lottery ticket traded to a contending offense. Robbed of a potential league-impacting elevation sensation.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I got some 411 from the sports talk radio here in Indy.

Rivers and Steichen have a relationship from their days in LA when Steichen was an intern and Rivers was QB. Rivers also helped mentor Riley Leonard in college and is not far from Riley's family (or something like that). Rivers runs Steichen's offense in the high school he coaches for. They made it sound like Rivers is doing a solid for a friend.

Thats gotta be the main factor. Their friendship. I can understand why Rivers would come back then. But damn I'm afraid for the guy. Don't want to see gramps hurt! I like the guy!

Sounds like there’s a possibility Leonard plays.

 

[joeschmo]

You guys are all way off. Rypien gets the start this weekend.

Spoiler: QB

Mark

 

[Ray_T]

I think there were better FA's to sign than old man Rivers. It was perplexing to me so he must know something.

But I get it, he's trying to bolster his resume' and the Colts are loyal to a fault. Much like HSG, don't really think it's going to work out but @FarFromHome is also correct that his stats weren't horrible 5 years ago so maybe there's a chance.

Its not necessarily about better.

its also about how fast can the guy learn the playbook to a level where he can be effective. Some QB are a lot faster at learning these things than others.

this team is in a playoff race. and if they win at least two of their remaining 4 games to have a reasonable shot at a wildcard. but they probably need 3 wins to guarantee it.

tough schedule down the stretch too.

so if a QB cannot pickup the offence in a week or two they are likely out of the playoffs.

so really what you want is someone who has played in an offense like this or similar. that likely cuts out some good players.

there are also likely some players who fit the bill that dont wanna go in or dont wanna play for the colts. (it happens Im sure) or who are worried about their legacy. and if they go in on one week of prep time what will people think?

sounds dumb right? but Im certain that happens too.

and because its a playoff race I cannot see a rookie getting called. its gotta be a vet.

now how many vets/retired players are out there who have played this system or one similar to it? not many.

is this a desperate move? of course it is.

and its a move of desperation that is needed if they wanna save the season.

Rivers likely doesnt even need to start all the games. I was under the impression Richardson could be ready to return soon enough. (if he can get his act together) so if that young man wants another shot, maybe he needs to step up his rehab.

but its also possible if Rivers does enough maybe they start him ahead of Richardson..... who knows?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

now how many vets/retired players are out there who have played this system or one similar to it? not many.

is this a desperate move? of course it is.

and its a move of desperation that is needed if they wanna save the season.

Rivers likely doesnt even need to start all the games. I was under the impression Richardson could be ready to return soon enough. (if he can get his act together) so if that young man wants another shot, maybe he needs to step up his rehab.

but its also possible if Rivers does enough maybe they start him ahead of Richardson..... who knows?

Sam Ehlinger was sitting right there. I just don't know. TBF, I had forgotten about Richardson and maybe the Colts plan on starting Leonard this week and then try to weather the storm with Richardson. So they sign a grandpa for depth? or maybe they think they can sneak into the playoffs with Lenard/T-Rich and they think Rivers will be ready by the playoffs? but if the plan was to play Rich and Leonard then I don't get why you'd sign Rivers because if you can win games with Rich/Leonard then why do you think they couldn't win a playoff game? Maybe Rivers will be fine and @FarFromHome share of Rivers will finally pay off.

 

[warpig33]

I got some 411 from the sports talk radio here in Indy.

Rivers and Steichen have a relationship from their days in LA when Steichen was an intern and Rivers was QB. Rivers also helped mentor Riley Leonard in college and is not far from Riley's family (or something like that). Rivers runs Steichen's offense in the high school he coaches for. They made it sound like Rivers is doing a solid for a friend.

Thats gotta be the main factor. Their friendship. I can understand why Rivers would come back then. But damn I'm afraid for the guy. Don't want to see gramps hurt! I like the guy!

Sounds like there’s a possibility Leonard plays.

In an ideal world I think that would be the play. And I've heard veterans question how bad Riley's knee really is. As a 6th round rookie, he should be fighting to play unless his leg fell off to try and prove himself worthy of sticking around. But there is some cloudiness to his injury. Kinda like with the Anthony Richardson orbital bone injury. But my gut tells me Rivers plays Sunday.

 

[Tau837]

this team is in a playoff race. and if they win at least two of their remaining 4 games to have a reasonable shot at a wildcard. but they probably need 3 wins to guarantee it.

Not only this, but the Colts are also 8-5 and tied with HOU one game behind JAX in the division race. They still play both HOU and JAX, so they technically have a shot at winning the division and hosting a playoff game. Seems like a long shot, but it is possible.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kinda like with the Anthony Richardson orbital bone injury

ARich hasn’t been medically cleared to play. I don’t think there’s any shenanigans there. I’m pretty sure the Colts would prefer ARich to Rivers.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

this team is in a playoff race. and if they win at least two of their remaining 4 games to have a reasonable shot at a wildcard. but they probably need 3 wins to guarantee it.

Not only this, but the Colts are also 8-5 and tied with HOU one game behind JAX in the division race. They still play both HOU and JAX, so they technically have a shot at winning the division and hosting a playoff game. Seems like a long shot, but it is possible.

They done.

 

[Wingnut]

If he starts and beats Seattle it'd be the funniest damn thing to happen this season.

 

[Faust]

How the Colts signed Philip Rivers out of NFL retirement

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

I don't think they're really thinking of putting him out there. I just figured they brought him in to help whoever they're really bringing in.

I don't know Rivers. Would his ego allow himself to be brought in for that reason? My gut says it wouldn't. He signed with the idea he is gonna at least get a chance to play. Right?

I have no idea. He's a dead man walking if they play him... 44 yrs old.. outta football for 5 yrs... looked completely spent his last 1-2 yrs while playing???

Bring out the body bag.

He was 11-5 in his final season.

 

[dickey moe]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

 

[Dizzy]

I don't think they're really thinking of putting him out there. I just figured they brought him in to help whoever they're really bringing in.

I don't know Rivers. Would his ego allow himself to be brought in for that reason? My gut says it wouldn't. He signed with the idea he is gonna at least get a chance to play. Right?

I have no idea. He's a dead man walking if they play him... 44 yrs old.. outta football for 5 yrs... looked completely spent his last 1-2 yrs while playing???

Bring out the body bag.

He was 11-5 in his final season.

Sorry. I was just a kid when he played his last season.

 

[FarFromHome]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

What interesting point. I guess in my mind this idea of him actually playing just didn't seem real. It's starting to feel real now. What if we do have a Terry Bradshaw or horrible concussion moment? I agree it would be a bad look for NFL. But. It's football. Rivers more then anyone knows what could happen.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

What interesting point. I guess in my mind this idea of him actually playing just didn't seem real. It's starting to feel real now. What if we do have a Terry Bradshaw or horrible concussion moment? I agree it would be a bad look for NFL. But. It's football. Rivers more then anyone knows what could happen.

With 10 kids, maybe dying on the football field feels like his best option to escape? I’m just thinking outside the box here. This could all be an elaborate assisted suicide. We don’t know.

 

[Dizzy]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

It's a bit dicey... if he survives though... it's a Disney movie.

 

[BoltNlava]

"When I was playing I was one of the besy QB's in the World!"
"Okay Grandpa let's get you to bed..."

/meme

 

[FarFromHome]

"When I was playing I was one of the besy QB's in the World!"
"Okay Grandpa let's get you to bed..."

/meme

"Okay papa, we'll put on your ESPN 30 for 30 until you fall asleep"

 

[warpig33]

Kinda like with the Anthony Richardson orbital bone injury

ARich hasn’t been medically cleared to play. I don’t think there’s any shenanigans there. I’m pretty sure the Colts would prefer ARich to Rivers.

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

What interesting point. I guess in my mind this idea of him actually playing just didn't seem real. It's starting to feel real now. What if we do have a Terry Bradshaw or horrible concussion moment? I agree it would be a bad look for NFL. But. It's football. Rivers more then anyone knows what could happen.

With 10 kids, maybe dying on the football field feels like his best option to escape? I’m just thinking outside the box here. This could all be an elaborate assisted suicide. We don’t know.

10 kids?!?! This isn't the 1800s anymore! Where you need to pop out kids to work the farms. And all 10 of them are with the same woman!!! She must be "sitting" on a gold mine!! Yeah, this is a tactic for him to get some sanity.

 

[FarFromHome]

I know it's just Rotoworld and I couldn't find a link to pair it. I thought it was interesting because it was the first real specifics of playing actual football:

ESPN’s Stephen Holder reports Colts coaches were impressed by Philip Rivers’ arm strength during his team workout.
“He can still spin it,” a Colts official told ESPN. Another team source added, “I’d still take him at this stage over most 22- to 23-year-old [backups].” Rivers during his workout with the Colts threw on the run and worked the entire route tree. His familiarity with head coach Shane Steichen’s offensive system could land Rivers, 44, under center in Week 15 against the Seahawks. Riley Leonard is dealing with a knee injury and is considered week to week after subbing in for Daniel Jones (Achilles) in Week 14 against the Jaguars. Rivers is not yet in typical NFL shape, however. “He needs to get in football shape, but there’s no question he can throw it,” a team source told ESPN.

 

[TheWinz]

Daniel Jones has been sacked 22 times this season, behind a very solid O-line. His sack percentage went down from 8.49% to 5.42% from the Giants to the Colts. In Rivers' lone season with the Colts, his sack percentage went down from 5.54% to 3.38% from the Chargers to the Colts. People are saying he will get killed because he can't move. I disagree. He's a smart QB who was always a statue. Look at Marino. He was one of the slowest QB's ever, but he led the NFL in lowest sack percentage 10 times. Randall Cunningham was one of the most mobile, and led the NFL in sacks 5 times in a 7 year stretch.

The timing kinda sucks though, because if Rivers starts this week, he faces SEA, who are near the top in sacks and QB pressures. But then the Colts face SF and JAC. SF is dead last in both sacks and QB pressures. JAC is bottom 10ish as well. Having a solid line and a smart QB is what allows old statues like Marino, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. to stay past their prime. It's part of the reason why Flacco at 40 was sacked at a much lower rate than Gabriel or Sanders, who combined are only 8 years older. Or why Flacco is the least sacked CIN QB, even though he's more than 10 years older than the others who've taken the field. For me, the biggest question is, how's his arm?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Daniel Jones has been sacked 22 times this season, behind a very solid O-line. His sack percentage went down from 8.49% to 5.42% from the Giants to the Colts. In Rivers' lone season with the Colts, his sack percentage went down from 5.54% to 3.38% from the Chargers to the Colts. People are saying he will get killed because he can't move. I disagree. He's a smart QB who was always a statue. Look at Marino. He was one of the slowest QB's ever, but he led the NFL in lowest sack percentage 10 times. Randall Cunningham was one of the most mobile, and led the NFL in sacks 5 times in a 7 year stretch.

The timing kinda sucks though, because if Rivers starts this week, he faces SEA, who are near the top in sacks and QB pressures. But then the Colts face SF and JAC. SF is dead last in both sacks and QB pressures. JAC is bottom 10ish as well. Having a solid line and a smart QB is what allows old statues like Marino, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. to stay past their prime. It's part of the reason why Flacco at 40 was sacked at a much lower rate than Gabriel or Sanders, who combined are only 8 years older. Or why Flacco is the least sacked CIN QB, even though he's more than 10 years older than the others who've taken the field. For me, the biggest question is, how's his arm?

Daniel Jones is also surprisingly mobile. Philip Rivers is decidedly not mobile.

 

[BoltNlava]

Daniel Jones has been sacked 22 times this season, behind a very solid O-line. His sack percentage went down from 8.49% to 5.42% from the Giants to the Colts. In Rivers' lone season with the Colts, his sack percentage went down from 5.54% to 3.38% from the Chargers to the Colts. People are saying he will get killed because he can't move. I disagree. He's a smart QB who was always a statue. Look at Marino. He was one of the slowest QB's ever, but he led the NFL in lowest sack percentage 10 times. Randall Cunningham was one of the most mobile, and led the NFL in sacks 5 times in a 7 year stretch.

The timing kinda sucks though, because if Rivers starts this week, he faces SEA, who are near the top in sacks and QB pressures. But then the Colts face SF and JAC. SF is dead last in both sacks and QB pressures. JAC is bottom 10ish as well. Having a solid line and a smart QB is what allows old statues like Marino, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. to stay past their prime. It's part of the reason why Flacco at 40 was sacked at a much lower rate than Gabriel or Sanders, who combined are only 8 years older. Or why Flacco is the least sacked CIN QB, even though he's more than 10 years older than the others who've taken the field. For me, the biggest question is, how's his arm?

Daniel Jones is also surprisingly mobile. Philip Rivers is decidedly not mobile.

They have pretty fast mobility walkers these days. I'm thinking at least a yard or so before defense knew what hit them.

 

[GreenNGold]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

I don't see how it would be any different than any other injury. Hopefully nothing happens, but It certainly wouldn't make the NFL look bad. The league has and has had multiple QB's in their 40's.

 

[TheWinz]

Daniel Jones has been sacked 22 times this season, behind a very solid O-line. His sack percentage went down from 8.49% to 5.42% from the Giants to the Colts. In Rivers' lone season with the Colts, his sack percentage went down from 5.54% to 3.38% from the Chargers to the Colts. People are saying he will get killed because he can't move. I disagree. He's a smart QB who was always a statue. Look at Marino. He was one of the slowest QB's ever, but he led the NFL in lowest sack percentage 10 times. Randall Cunningham was one of the most mobile, and led the NFL in sacks 5 times in a 7 year stretch.

The timing kinda sucks though, because if Rivers starts this week, he faces SEA, who are near the top in sacks and QB pressures. But then the Colts face SF and JAC. SF is dead last in both sacks and QB pressures. JAC is bottom 10ish as well. Having a solid line and a smart QB is what allows old statues like Marino, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. to stay past their prime. It's part of the reason why Flacco at 40 was sacked at a much lower rate than Gabriel or Sanders, who combined are only 8 years older. Or why Flacco is the least sacked CIN QB, even though he's more than 10 years older than the others who've taken the field. For me, the biggest question is, how's his arm?

Daniel Jones is also surprisingly mobile. Philip Rivers is decidedly not mobile.

Agreed, Danny Dimes is very mobile. And he was even more mobile years ago when he was getting sacked at a much higher rate as a Giant. You are proving my point. Historically, the LEAST sacked QB's tend to be smart immobile statues behind strong O-lines. Why? Because they know how to get rid of the ball. Let's look at a few of the well-known statues:

Tom Brady - 4.48% sack percentage - Led the league in sack percentage only twice in his career, but guess what? They were his last 2 years, when he was 44 and 45.
Peyton Manning - 3.13% sack percentage - Led the league in sack percentage 5 times, and all 5 were AFTER he turned 30, including 4 of his last 6.
Dan Marino - 3.13% sack percentage - The poster child for immobility; he led the league 10 times in sack percentage, including his rookie and final seasons.

Let's compare them to well-known mobile superhumans:
Randall Cunningham - 10.14% sack percentage - A runner to the very end, he was sacked more times in 5 seasons than Marino was in his entire 17 year career
Fran Tarkenton - 8.10% sack percentage - Had to list him. Known as "The Scrambler". He's also led the league his first 4 years in sacks, because he wouldn't get rid of it.
Michael Vick - 8.94% sack percentage - His 4.33 at the 2001 combine is still a record for QB's. Even so, he was sacked at twice the rate of the guys above.

My point is, Rivers wasn't a mobile QB to begin with. He has a quick release, and with the new rules about hitting QB's combined with IND's strong line, the hits he takes will be limited. And he has Jonathan Taylor to keep teams honest. If Rivers can throw the ball at even 80% of what he once could, he'll be fine.

 

[rzrback77]

I am looking forward to watching him play. He is just such a great individual and competitor that I anticipate enjoying him, particularly if he has any success at all.

 

[heckmanm]

Mike Pagel not available?

I wonder if they reached out to Andrew Luck?

He threw his phone in the toilet as soon as Danny Dimes slammed his helmet

 

[Jewell]

I think there were better FA's to sign than old man Rivers. It was perplexing to me so he must know something.

Rivers knows the Colts offense.

Reports are that Rivers and Colts coach Shane Steichen keep in touch and discuss the Colts offense because Rivers runs Steichen’s offense for the high school team he coaches. Rivers’ deep familiarity with Steichen’s offense is the primary reason Steichen reached out to Rivers instead of other QBs.

Plus, if this experiment fails, it at least makes the Colts compelling viewing for fans.

 

[FarFromHome]

Rivers knows the Colts offense.

Reports are that Rivers and Colts coach Shane Steichen keep in touch and discuss the the Colts offense because Rivers runs Steichen’s offense for the high school team he coaches. Rivers’ deep familiarity with Steichen’s offense is the primary reason Steichen reached out to Rivers instead of other QBs.

Plus, if this experiment fails, it at least makes the Colts compelling viewing for fans.

I think your post sums up the why in the heck would they do this nicely.

 

[B Maverick]

If nothing else, I hope they find a way to get him 7 receiving yards. Yes receiving.


Jerry Rice holds the NFL record for most receiving yards over age 40 (around 2,169-2,509 yards, depending on exact count), with other players like Tom Brady (6 yards) and Marcedes Lewis (2 yards) far behind, highlighting Rice's unique longevity and production, as most players have zero receiving yards after turning 40.

Top Players (After Turning 40):
Jerry Rice: ~2,509 yards (or 2,169)
Tom Brady: 6 yards (a single catch)
Marcedes Lewis: 2 yards (a single catch)

 

[Jppaul]

I think there were better FA's to sign than old man Rivers. It was perplexing to me so he must know something.

Rivers knows the Colts offense.

Reports are that Rivers and Colts coach Shane Steichen keep in touch and discuss the Colts offense because Rivers runs Steichen’s offense for the high school team he coaches. Rivers’ deep familiarity with Steichen’s offense is the primary reason Steichen reached out to Rivers instead of other QBs.

Plus, if this experiment fails, it at least makes the Colts compelling viewing for fans.

and... Rivers supposedly worked with QBs like Riley Leonard and Bo Nix over the offseason

 

[heckmanm]

Mike Pagel not available?

I wonder if they reached out to Andrew Luck?

He threw his phone in the toilet as soon as Danny Dimes slammed his helmet

Took no chances with email, either

 

[Jewell]

If nothing else, I hope they find a way to get him 7 receiving yards. Yes receiving.


Jerry Rice holds the NFL record for most receiving yards over age 40 (around 2,169-2,509 yards, depending on exact count), with other players like Tom Brady (6 yards) and Marcedes Lewis (2 yards) far behind, highlighting Rice's unique longevity and production, as most players have zero receiving yards after turning 40.

Top Players (After Turning 40):
Jerry Rice: ~2,509 yards (or 2,169)
Tom Brady: 6 yards (a single catch)
Marcedes Lewis: 2 yards (a single catch)

Here’s another one.

Rivers is currently 7th on the all-time passing yards list, but he’s only 648 yards behind the 6th place player, Ben Roethlisberger. If Rivers lasts the Colts remaining four games he definitely has a shot to move ahead of Big Ben.

Granted, Stafford is right behind both in 8th place on the list, and he also has shot to pass both this season.

 

[Godsbrother]

They should also sign Eli and Big Ben and let the three of them fight it out

 

[dickey moe]

Imagine if, God forbid, this grandpa gets seriously hurt on the field - not a good look for the NFL.

I don't see how it would be any different than any other injury. Hopefully nothing happens, but It certainly wouldn't make the NFL look bad. The league has and has had multiple QB's in their 40's.

Who haven't played in 5 years?

 

[B Maverick]

If nothing else, I hope they find a way to get him 7 receiving yards. Yes receiving.


Jerry Rice holds the NFL record for most receiving yards over age 40 (around 2,169-2,509 yards, depending on exact count), with other players like Tom Brady (6 yards) and Marcedes Lewis (2 yards) far behind, highlighting Rice's unique longevity and production, as most players have zero receiving yards after turning 40.

Top Players (After Turning 40):
Jerry Rice: ~2,509 yards (or 2,169)
Tom Brady: 6 yards (a single catch)
Marcedes Lewis: 2 yards (a single catch)

Here’s another one.

Rivers is currently 7th on the all-time passing yards list, but he’s only 648 yards behind the 6th place player, Ben Roethlisberger. If Rivers lasts the Colts remaining four games he definitely has a shot to move ahead of Big Ben.

Granted, Stafford is right behind both in 8th place on the list, and he also has shot to pass both this season.

I'm sure Rivers, even at his age and rust could get 162 YPG (if my math is right)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Daniel Jones has been sacked 22 times this season, behind a very solid O-line. His sack percentage went down from 8.49% to 5.42% from the Giants to the Colts. In Rivers' lone season with the Colts, his sack percentage went down from 5.54% to 3.38% from the Chargers to the Colts. People are saying he will get killed because he can't move. I disagree. He's a smart QB who was always a statue. Look at Marino. He was one of the slowest QB's ever, but he led the NFL in lowest sack percentage 10 times. Randall Cunningham was one of the most mobile, and led the NFL in sacks 5 times in a 7 year stretch.

The timing kinda sucks though, because if Rivers starts this week, he faces SEA, who are near the top in sacks and QB pressures. But then the Colts face SF and JAC. SF is dead last in both sacks and QB pressures. JAC is bottom 10ish as well. Having a solid line and a smart QB is what allows old statues like Marino, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. to stay past their prime. It's part of the reason why Flacco at 40 was sacked at a much lower rate than Gabriel or Sanders, who combined are only 8 years older. Or why Flacco is the least sacked CIN QB, even though he's more than 10 years older than the others who've taken the field. For me, the biggest question is, how's his arm?

Daniel Jones is also surprisingly mobile. Philip Rivers is decidedly not mobile.

Agreed, Danny Dimes is very mobile. And he was even more mobile years ago when he was getting sacked at a much higher rate as a Giant. You are proving my point. Historically, the LEAST sacked QB's tend to be smart immobile statues behind strong O-lines. Why? Because they know how to get rid of the ball. Let's look at a few of the well-known statues:

Tom Brady - 4.48% sack percentage - Led the league in sack percentage only twice in his career, but guess what? They were his last 2 years, when he was 44 and 45.
Peyton Manning - 3.13% sack percentage - Led the league in sack percentage 5 times, and all 5 were AFTER he turned 30, including 4 of his last 6.
Dan Marino - 3.13% sack percentage - The poster child for immobility; he led the league 10 times in sack percentage, including his rookie and final seasons.

Let's compare them to well-known mobile superhumans:
Randall Cunningham - 10.14% sack percentage - A runner to the very end, he was sacked more times in 5 seasons than Marino was in his entire 17 year career
Fran Tarkenton - 8.10% sack percentage - Had to list him. Known as "The Scrambler". He's also led the league his first 4 years in sacks, because he wouldn't get rid of it.
Michael Vick - 8.94% sack percentage - His 4.33 at the 2001 combine is still a record for QB's. Even so, he was sacked at twice the rate of the guys above.

My point is, Rivers wasn't a mobile QB to begin with. He has a quick release, and with the new rules about hitting QB's combined with IND's strong line, the hits he takes will be limited. And he has Jonathan Taylor to keep teams honest. If Rivers can throw the ball at even 80% of what he once could, he'll be fine.

Eh, I think it’s a bit different than that - the least sacked QBs know how to slide around in the pocket.

IIRC that was never one of Rivers strengths.

Brady was the absolute master of it, and Jones was decent at knowing when to tuck and run.

 

[Terpman22]

P Rivers arm was DONE. That was 5 years ago.

That shotput style mechanics, still makes me queasy when I watch him throw

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Riley Leonard (knee) is practicing in full for Week 15 against the Seahawks.
Leonard is dealing with a PCL injury, but a full practice to open the week means he should be available for Sunday’s game. Whether he gets the start or not is a different question. Phillip Rivers is now on the team’s practice squad and should take over as the starter sooner rather than later, though he may need a week to get up to speed after five years away from football. Even if Leonard starts, the knee issue could limit his mobility, which was his calling card coming out of college. He will be, at best, a low-end QB2 if he gets the start.

Practiced in full.

 

[Jppaul]

If nothing else, I hope they find a way to get him 7 receiving yards. Yes receiving.


Jerry Rice holds the NFL record for most receiving yards over age 40 (around 2,169-2,509 yards, depending on exact count), with other players like Tom Brady (6 yards) and Marcedes Lewis (2 yards) far behind, highlighting Rice's unique longevity and production, as most players have zero receiving yards after turning 40.

Top Players (After Turning 40):
Jerry Rice: ~2,509 yards (or 2,169)
Tom Brady: 6 yards (a single catch)
Marcedes Lewis: 2 yards (a single catch)

Here’s another one.

Rivers is currently 7th on the all-time passing yards list, but he’s only 648 yards behind the 6th place player, Ben Roethlisberger. If Rivers lasts the Colts remaining four games he definitely has a shot to move ahead of Big Ben.

Granted, Stafford is right behind both in 8th place on the list, and he also has shot to pass both this season.

I hope Rivers moves up to 6th place, for an hour.

 

[ChiefD]

With 10 kids, maybe dying on the football field feels like his best option to escape? I’m just thinking outside the box here. This could all be an elaborate assisted suicide. We don’t know.

My guess is he did this for two reasons:

1. He wanted the 3 kids he had after he retired* to be able to watch him play in the NFL
2. He wanted his grandkids to be able to watch him play in the NFL.





























*this may or may not be true.

 

[TheWinz]

Eh, I think it’s a bit different than that - the least sacked QBs know how to slide around in the pocket.

IIRC that was never one of Rivers strengths.

Brady was the absolute master of it, and Jones was decent at knowing when to tuck and run.

1) In Rivers final season with the Colts at age 39 and no legs, his sack percentage was only 3.38%. Of the 32 QB's with the most pass attempts, he ranked behind only Brady, Roethlisberger, and Brees. They were the 4 oldest QB's that year. They also combined to rush for 6 yards... not a typo! You may say and think Rivers' pocket presence wasn't a strength, but the stats differ.

2) To say that Daniel Jones is decent at knowing when to tuck and run is comical. In 6 years with the Giants, his sack percentage was 8.49%. He is certainly below average in terms of pocket presence.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'll do what other won't, this guy is almost my age


I always rooted for him, love that he has 99 legitimate children, all good
But he's in my thoughts and prayers I won't have to watch him taken off in a stretcher or worse

 

[Yogibear]

I mentioned this in another thread, and I think it's worth repeating that just a couple of weeks ago, he was a Semifinalist for the Hall of Fame Class of 2026. The list of Modern-Era Finalists comes out in a couple of weeks, and I can tell everyone right now that, no doubt, he would've been a Finalist for the Hall of Fame Class of 2026. Now, the earliest he'll be eligible is 2030 or 2031. This might've ruined his chances to go into Canton.

 

[Dizzy]

Just saw a clip from the IND post-practice presser... Rivers speaking... his head looks a lot rounder than I remember it being.

 

[FarFromHome]

Actual video of him practicing.

https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1998827082973925651