QB Russell Wilson, NYG (3 Viewers)

[Judge Smails]

It’s games like yesterday where a guy was on top of everyone’s must start list then bombs horrifically against a historically bad pass defense that make me want to slam my head down on my keyboard. All moon balls and no crossing intermediate routes. So just drop 2 safeties and he’s worthless

 

[groin pains]

Russell Wilson owners, who are currently starting him tonight, are you having second thoughts with current weather predictions? What's plan B?

 

[Kuz]

Russell Wilson owners, who are currently starting him tonight, are you having second thoughts with current weather predictions? What's plan B?

I am benching in for Cooper Rush. Weather looks terrible..

 

[RenegadeRoy]

Benched him for Richardson in SF league.

 

[EWV1]

From the vibes here, maybe I should start my other option - Darnold - hmmmm.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Call me crazy but I actually think this is a rare instance where the team should utilize both QBs heavily. Fields should be in on all short down situations and probably in the red zone. Let Wilson handle the rest. Bada bing - championship baby!

If Fields is better in those situations, then Fields should be the QB1.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Russell Wilson completed 8 of 9 passes over 10 air yards for 205 yards and 2 TDs (+34.8% CPOE, his 3rd-highest mark in a game over the last seven seasons).

Wilson currently leads all qualified QBs in CPOE on attempts over 10 air yards this season (+15.7%).

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[Yogibear]

I'm going to go ahead and say it: Unanimous choice for Comeback Player of the Year.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I'm going to go ahead and say it: Unanimous choice for Comeback Player of the Year.

Wilson was fully healthy last year and wasn’t even horrible to begin with. Why would he get comeback player of the year?

 

[Uncle Leo]

Dangeruss. These are not the Steelers we are accustomed to.

 

[Acrobat7]

Dangeruss. These are not the Steelers we are accustomed to.

Neither on offense nor on defense.

 

[Faust]

With an AFC North title in sight, Steelers' Russell Wilson is looking like his old self

 

[Faust]

Steelers' Wilson says fumble, pick-6 in loss 'unacceptable'

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Steelers' Wilson says fumble, pick-6 in loss 'unacceptable'

Glad he agrees, since 1000s were prolly screaming it at the television.

"1 and done" in playoffs again for Mikey T in the offing

 

[Faust]

Andrew Mason
Russell Wilson was sacked 33 times in 10 games this season.

Bo Nix has been sacked 24 times in 16 games.

"I think the sack statistic, by and large, is more a quarterback statistic than an offensive line statistic."
-- Sean Payton, Sep. 30, 2024

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[Faust]

Dov Kleiman
Russell Wilson just had one of the WORST two-minute drills I've ever seen.

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Matt Verderame
I'm still floored at how atrocious that two-minute drill was by Russell Wilson.

My oldest daughter is 7 years old and doesn't know the rules of football. She would have done a better job.

Genuinely one of the most embarrassing moments I've ever seen from a veteran QB

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[Faust]

Steelers' Mike Tomlin bemoans 'disappointing' wild-card loss to Ravens; Russell Wilson hopes for Pittsburgh return

 

[Mitchie]

(TheHuddle) Pittsburgh Steelers impending free-agent QB Russell Wilson said that contract extension discussions with the team have already gotten underway, during an appearance on ESPN's 'Pat McAfee Show' Wednesday, Jan. 22. Analysis: Regardless of where Wilson lands this offseason, the 36-year-old veteran should be viewed as no better than a midrange QB2 option for 2025 fantasy leagues.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

not really sure why you'd resign him. Maybe I'm just stupidly optimistic that Fields is still a thing but it seems like that's where the potential lies.

 

[irish eyes]

You can guarantee the Steelers sign him. No one in that organization has a clue what they're doing.

 

[Mitchie]

not really sure why you'd resign him. Maybe I'm just stupidly optimistic that Fields is still a thing but it seems like that's where the potential lies.

They may try to bring Fields back as well, but he's not getting handed a starting job anywhere. Decent chance he can find a better opportunity to compete elsewhere but no guarantee of that.

 

[LawFitz]

Please please please resign dangeruss.

(So that the Raiders don't have the option.)

 

[FairWarning]

not really sure why you'd resign him. Maybe I'm just stupidly optimistic that Fields is still a thing but it seems like that's where the potential lies.

They may try to bring Fields back as well, but he's not getting handed a starting job anywhere. Decent chance he can find a better opportunity to compete elsewhere but no guarantee of that.

He could be the (very) poor-man’s Russell Wilson in LV also.

 

[Mitchie]

not really sure why you'd resign him. Maybe I'm just stupidly optimistic that Fields is still a thing but it seems like that's where the potential lies.

They may try to bring Fields back as well, but he's not getting handed a starting job anywhere. Decent chance he can find a better opportunity to compete elsewhere but no guarantee of that.

He could be the (very) poor-man’s Russell Wilson in LV also.

Possible, rumors of Russ being linked to LV too to reunite w/ Carroll

 

[FairWarning]

not really sure why you'd resign him. Maybe I'm just stupidly optimistic that Fields is still a thing but it seems like that's where the potential lies.

They may try to bring Fields back as well, but he's not getting handed a starting job anywhere. Decent chance he can find a better opportunity to compete elsewhere but no guarantee of that.

He could be the (very) poor-man’s Russell Wilson in LV also.

Possible, rumors of Russ being linked to LV too to reunite w/ Carroll

If I’m Pittsburgh, I probably let Wilson walk and draft a qb. A possible landing spot for Fields could be Indy if Flacco doesn’t come back.

 

[sm8680]

Russell Wilson is nothing but a shell of his former self. The Seahawks collapsed near the end of the season in 2021. Injuries..... Sound familiar. Russell got Brian Scottenheimer fired. Tried to get Pete fired. Somehow the Seahawks snookered the Broncos by trading him. Obviously Sean Peyton didn't want him. Steelers need to move on. He did nothing near the end of the year to elevate the players around him. For me it's annoying when Russell talks to the media for he's one of the best word smith bsers out there. Please Raiders sign him.

 

[irish eyes]

Russell Wilson is nothing but a shell of his former self. The Seahawks collapsed near the end of the season in 2021. Injuries..... Sound familiar. Russell got Brian Scottenheimer fired. Tried to get Pete fired. Somehow the Seahawks snookered the Broncos by trading him. Obviously Sean Peyton didn't want him. Steelers need to move on. He did nothing near the end of the year to elevate the players around him. For me it's annoying when Russell talks to the media for he's one of the best word smith bsers out there. Please Raiders sign him.

Russ and Tomlin should write a book together on BS quotes.

 

[belljr]

I'd rather crash and burn with Fields than run Russ back. I might not watch if Russ comes back

 

[irish eyes]

I'd rather crash and burn with Fields than run Russ back. I might not watch if Russ comes back

Have to agree. He looks like he's 90 years old.

 

[H8fulHuck]

Steelers were 10-8 including playoffs. Russ went 6-6 including multiple weeks with no receivers to throw to and a young OLine full of holes. Run game with <4 ypc Najee wasn’t much of a force most weeks.

2024 was the start of a major rebuild process starting with the line. Line should improve next year with experience. Next up I’m guessing Khan builds up the WR and RB rooms. Ideally keep Russ in town or Fields as a bridge during the search for a rookie replacement.

With a better line and skill players, Russ should easily improve year 2 in the same system. OR!!! Pickens refuses to play, Khan fails to bring in WR/RB talent and the team gets clobbered en route to an early 2026 pick.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Steelers were 10-8 including playoffs. Russ went 6-6 including multiple weeks with no receivers to throw to and a young OLine full of holes. Run game with <4 ypc Najee wasn’t much of a force most weeks.

2024 was the start of a major rebuild process starting with the line. Line should improve next year with experience. Next up I’m guessing Khan builds up the WR and RB rooms. Ideally keep Russ in town or Fields as a bridge during the search for a rookie replacement.

With a better line and skill players, Russ should easily improve year 2 in the same system. OR!!! Pickens refuses to play, Khan fails to bring in WR/RB talent and the team gets clobbered en route to an early 2026 pick.

Thing about this tho....Khan can't just draft 4 WRs and a RB, throw Fields or Russ back out there and call everything "fixed". Their DL is getting old, isn't very deep, and what depth they do have isn't very (any) good. Their ILB depth is also sub-optimal, and they probably need a couple other DBs. And that doesn't even touch on the lack of talent in the WR room. That's a lot of stuff to take care of.

Clearly, some of those items can and should be addressed in FA. Some should be addressed in FA and the draft. QB isn't likely to be a viable target for them in the draft, outside developmental guys later, but IIRC they currently have only Skylar Thompson under contract at the position, so they're going to almost have to go fishing in the FA QB turd pond.

With what is available, they need to just commit to a full year of Fields to see what could happen and go from there. He'll want something multi-year, and that's is a reasonable expectation, but they should be able to structure something in a way that if he totally bottoms out they could triage the damage. He either has the light go on (unlikely) and you're in better shape than you thought, or he does what is most likely and you limp to 9 wins and get rolled in the WC round again. At that point, you can choose to be aggressive in '26: Trade whatever you have to to get a high enough pick to go after a real, live, QB prospect with Fields in your pocket to be a bridge. Multiple firsts? Whatever, do it. Players and picks? Yeah, whatever, get it done.

Doubling down on Russ for '25-beyond is just about "the most Tomlin thing they could do" though, and I fully expect it. Their OL could improve, based on getting their house in order (e.g. letting Jones play exclusively LT) and by getting back injured players they were clealry depending on for a pile of snaps. Their running game could improve with a fully healthy year from Warren (a much better fit for Artie Smith's zone schemes than Naj ever was, and a more explosive player) with another good, young zone runner paired with him (especially one who has jets. This is a plodding offense. They need a home run hitter.) All of that won't mean a damn thing if they're just rolling back out the guy who can't see over the OL, so he refuses to even glance at the middle of the field. Getting more/better WRs won't even do much to help in that regard.

He'll sure say all the most rah-rah positive stuff after every loss though, by Science!! And Tomlin won't have to pretend that he has to develop a QB for another couple years. Rinse-repeat until 2027 or '28. It's the 100% wrong move (and I actually sort of like Russ). He isn't what that team needs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'd rather crash and burn with Fields than run Russ back. I might not watch if Russ comes back

They didn’t let Fields do much - there were some trust issues I think. I don’t see them bringing back Fields as a starter - I think they’d be better off, but I don’t think PIT thinks that.

 

[H8fulHuck]

Rooney saying he only plans to sign one of the two smells of being cheap. Playing them against each other. Whomever takes the deal on the table first gets the job. Just like the joker tossing a pool stick on the ground between two candidates for a single opening.

 

[LawFitz]

Rooney saying he only plans to sign one of the two smells of being cheap. Playing them against each other. Whomever takes the deal on the table first gets the job. Just like the joker tossing a pool stick on the ground between two candidates for a single opening.

Take the deal Russ!!

Hopefully, Pete has figured out that danger boy is long cooked and wants nothing to do with him in Vegas. And hopefully, Fields is looking for a fresh start after being benched for this bum last year. I'm a fan of Tomlin, but that was pure kookooroo.

If I am Pete & Co., I am all over Fields in FA + Tet McMillan at #6 to combo with Bowser and Meyers; and then the best mid-round QB/RB/OL swing(s) they can find this year and beyond until they find an actual winner chicken dinner, instead of the hot mess that is Rustic Wilson and similar washed-QB elk.

 

[Faust]

Russell Wilson sidesteps Raiders talk, says focus on Steelers

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1904666201445244980

ESPN Sources: The Giants and Super Bowl-winning QB Russell Wilson reached agreement today on a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, including $10.5 million guaranteed. The 10-time Pro-Bowl selection had been in discussions with the Giants, Browns and Steelers, but is opting for New York, where Wilson won Super Bowl XLVIII in MetLife Stadium. Now, Wilson is returning there as the Giants’ projected starting QB.

 

[Gatorade]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1904666201445244980

ESPN Sources: The Giants and Super Bowl-winning QB Russell Wilson reached agreement today on a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, including $10.5 million guaranteed. The 10-time Pro-Bowl selection had been in discussions with the Giants, Browns and Steelers, but is opting for New York, where Wilson won Super Bowl XLVIII in MetLife Stadium. Now, Wilson is returning there as the Giants’ projected starting QB.

Should be good for Nabers

 

[King of the Jungle]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1904666201445244980

ESPN Sources: The Giants and Super Bowl-winning QB Russell Wilson reached agreement today on a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, including $10.5 million guaranteed. The 10-time Pro-Bowl selection had been in discussions with the Giants, Browns and Steelers, but is opting for New York, where Wilson won Super Bowl XLVIII in MetLife Stadium. Now, Wilson is returning there as the Giants’ projected starting QB.

Should be good for Nabers

Nowhere to go but up, but from an FF perspective I would rather have Winston throwing him the ball.

 

[Godsbrother]

Glad he is off the board cause I didn’t want him but I would have loved the irony of him signing with the Browns.

 

[The Frankman]

Giants signed QB Russell Wilson, formerly of the Steelers, to a one-year, $21 million contract.

Wilson has found a suitor in the Giants, signing a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The deal also includes $10.5 million guaranteed. The Giants were in the market for a veteran quarterback and now have two after also signing Jameis Winston. The dominos will continue to fall as the Steelers are still without a quarterback, though Aaron Rodgers seems destined for Pittsburgh despite the snail-like speed of his free agency decision. Meanwhile, Wilson is now poised to start for the Giants in 2025 after throwing for 2,482 yards, 16 touchdowns, and five interceptions in 11 games for the Steelers last season. The ceiling for Malik Nabers and the Giants’ pass-catchers is lower with Wilson than Winston and the addition of the two veteran quarterbacks indicates the team will either pick a rookie to sit the entire 2025 season, or wait until the 2026 draft to add a rookie quarterback.
- Rotoworld

I actually wanted him last year when he was dirt cheap. The good thing about the signing is not only does it stabilize the QB room with actual veteran QBs who were leaders, it probably means Travis Hunter is the pick for NY.

 

[BassNBrew]

Free jamis.

 

[travdogg]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1904666201445244980

ESPN Sources: The Giants and Super Bowl-winning QB Russell Wilson reached agreement today on a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, including $10.5 million guaranteed. The 10-time Pro-Bowl selection had been in discussions with the Giants, Browns and Steelers, but is opting for New York, where Wilson won Super Bowl XLVIII in MetLife Stadium. Now, Wilson is returning there as the Giants’ projected starting QB.

Should be good for Nabers

Nowhere to go but up, but from an FF perspective I would rather have Winston throwing him the ball.

Winston would have gotten benched for someone a lot worse than Russ though. This probably hurts Nabers spike week ceiling but probably stabilizes his value. He's in the WR 7-10 range for me.

 

[Godsbrother]

Giants signed QB Russell Wilson, formerly of the Steelers, to a one-year, $21 million contract.

Wilson has found a suitor in the Giants, signing a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The deal also includes $10.5 million guaranteed. The Giants were in the market for a veteran quarterback and now have two after also signing Jameis Winston. The dominos will continue to fall as the Steelers are still without a quarterback, though Aaron Rodgers seems destined for Pittsburgh despite the snail-like speed of his free agency decision. Meanwhile, Wilson is now poised to start for the Giants in 2025 after throwing for 2,482 yards, 16 touchdowns, and five interceptions in 11 games for the Steelers last season. The ceiling for Malik Nabers and the Giants’ pass-catchers is lower with Wilson than Winston and the addition of the two veteran quarterbacks indicates the team will either pick a rookie to sit the entire 2025 season, or wait until the 2026 draft to add a rookie quarterback.
- Rotoworld

I actually wanted him last year when he was dirt cheap. The good thing about the signing is not only does it stabilize the QB room with actual veteran QBs who were leaders, it probably means Travis Hunter is the pick for NY.

The other positive from a Steelers fan’s point of view is that it didn’t cost much to find out he wasn’t the guy.

It sucks to be in the QB situation we are currently in but would have
sucked a whole lot more to be stuck with a 3 or 4 year deal with Wilson.

 

[Big Nate]

Time for Russ to cook!

Wonder what his value will be in SF Dynasty come September and someone needs a QB 2 and he is the starter week 1. I think that might be the time to sell.

 

[Faust]

N ew Giants QB Russell Wilson: 'I expect to be the starter'

 

[The Frankman]

IF we are being realistic, his WRs/pass catchers are as good if not better for the Giants (Nabers/Slayton/Wan'Dale Robinson/Hyatt/Theo Johnson/etc.) and the O co-ordinator is better for offense (Daboll/Kafla vs. Arthur Smith). I mean, it's not out of the realm that the Giants could craft a functional O with a guy like Wilson as opposed to the human nothingburger that is Daniel Jones.

The bigger issue is Wilson isn't a guy that can remotely carry an O by himself now; he's going to need the line to be better and the running game to help him out. He's also going to need another surehanded receiver other than Nabers to emerge. Will it be "Drops" Slayton? "Negative aDot" Robinson? Maybe Lil'Jordan Humprhey can be a DK Metcalf clone for him...

 

[sm8680]

I expect Tyrone Tracy Jr. to make a nice leap forward in his second year. Especially if the Giants draft Travis Hunter and solidify that offensive line that seems to be a work in progress every year. NYG fans what are your thoughts?

 

[rockaction]

I expect Tyrone Tracy Jr. to make a nice leap forward in his second year. Especially if the Giants draft Travis Hunter and solidify that offensive line that seems to be a work in progress every year. NYG fans what are your thoughts?

I'm not a NYG fan but I feel just dandy jumping in here because I've really thought about this hard (I roster Tracy in my main league). Right now, it's Tyrone Tracy, Devin Singletary, and Eric Gray in the Giants backfield. Last year Tracy took the job from Singletary by mid-year but had some blips along the way with fumbles and ceded work back to Singletary by the end of the year (a sprained ankle that Tracy had didn't help his workhorse status, but the fumbles were a problem, too). So that's where we stood at the end of the year. Tracy was 1A to Singletary's 1B or 2A—however you want to look at it, Singletary was slightly behind Tracy in both workload and coach's esteem.

This year, Tracy's performance last year during the season indicates that (he scored very poorly in PFF grading in both the passing and running game, so I base it off of that) he'll be lucky if he's not fighting off Day Two draft capital and it's only Day Three he's fighting off because the Giants are going to select a running back in the draft almost unfailingly, and whether Tracy remains the starter will depend on whether or not he can beat that guy (or guys) out and show the coaching staff that he is the guy for this year. Why?

Schoen and Daboll are on the shortest of leashes with the owner (that's GM and coach, respectively). They've been basically instructed to be very competitive for the playoffs or they lose their jobs. I'm guessing they need to make the playoffs or just narrowly miss but be on a major upswing for the next year to keep their positions. So the Giants and their coaches need to get it done this year, which means that Tracy needs to be a mature second-year player who is over his fumbling troubles and who also needs to be better than, at worst, a Day Three back.

So it depends who the Giants pick at RB and when they pick him. If he's Day Two, Tracy is in a bunch of trouble and it's open competition and then some. If it's Day Three, he stands much more of a chance to win the job and cement his position as 1A in the backfield. As far as if he actually gets really good back there, well, he's 25 or 26 and he ain't getting any younger, so one hopes he's more fully-formed than last year's version.

That's my pick to click and my . . . two cents

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The Giants draft Hunter. Wilson could be a better fantasy quarterback than people think. In that division, you will need to score many points or have a super defense. The Giants focused on the defensive side of the ball in free agency. The Giants will now focus on offense in the draft.

 

[Faust]

Russell Wilson relishes playing in New York, chance to return Giants to 'highest level': 'I don't mind the lights'