Da Franchise
Footballguy
um, no?
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QB Sam Howell, SEA (1 Viewer)
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um, no?
Scooby1974
Footballguy
If I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
Da Franchise
Footballguy
If I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
Thanks for the play by play, chief.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
If I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
Thanks for the play by play, chito spell it out for you.
Clearly had to spell it out for you, you're welcome.If I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
Thanks for the play by play, chief.
1.8 million sacks? I think you are estimating high....lolIf I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Philly may very well destroy the Commanders, but I think @Da Franchise 's point was that pointing to 2022 results may not be a great barometer.If I said that Philly destroyed Washington, would you assume that Washington won that game?
No, I'm referring to the OTHER game. The game where Philly completely dismantled Washington in the first half with 1.8 million sacks and 24 points in the second quarter. LOL
They had that amazing 2nd quarter, but Philly outplayed Washington in 2 of the 8 quarters that they played last year.
Again, that tells us nothing about what might happen this year, except that the unexpected is possible.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
But back to the point, let's not write-off Sammy after 4 starts.
He looked pretty good in 3 starts, and then went on tilt against the September BIlls. The September Bills are particularly amazing.
In Peyton Manning's 4th start, he lost to a 6-win Saints team led by Danny Weurffel.
BTW, that loss dropped Manning to 0-4 with 3 TD's, 11 INT's, and 13 sacks.
Sammy isn't Peyton, but becoming a good QB takes time and some lumps.
He looked pretty good in 3 starts, and then went on tilt against the September BIlls. The September Bills are particularly amazing.
In Peyton Manning's 4th start, he lost to a 6-win Saints team led by Danny Weurffel.
BTW, that loss dropped Manning to 0-4 with 3 TD's, 11 INT's, and 13 sacks.
Sammy isn't Peyton, but becoming a good QB takes time and some lumps.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Bigtime bounce back game from Howell today.
They didn’t win, but that wasn’t Howell’s fault. He sure looks like a starting QB out there.
They didn’t win, but that wasn’t Howell’s fault. He sure looks like a starting QB out there.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Narrator: Philly did not actually destroy the commanders. They survived an OT win after a fantastic Howell comeback, including a literal last second TD.
I’m going Howell but he’s my Herbert bye week filler.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Ditto. I'm not expecting 300-3, but I'd be happy with 200-2, which I think is very realistic.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
I'm also torn on these three. I'm going howell.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Indeed. Could have 1 or 2 rushing tds against this defense.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Fantasy Fantasy Fantasy, I get it...
-He rakes when the team was being blown out 27-3, Rivera kept making a 2 score game into a 2 score game,
They never were really threatening to take the lead or storm all the way back, maybe somewhere around 30-20 you might have thought it was getting closer but then 40-20 final.
-He rakes when the team was being blown out 27-3, Rivera kept making a 2 score game into a 2 score game,
They never were really threatening to take the lead or storm all the way back, maybe somewhere around 30-20 you might have thought it was getting closer but then 40-20 final.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I was totally wrong about his ceiling potential which is probably capped at QB2. If he had consistent QB1 in him he would have achieved that last night.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I think you guys are wrong. Defense puts the offense in HORRIBLE situations. The o-line is GARBGE. Kid is still fighting, throws his body around without fear. Still has a canon and if he got half decent protection we'd all be singing his praises. This is on the league's worst defense and pathetic o-lline.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
According to Football Reference's Advanced Passing stats, Howell has the lowest time in the pocket at 1.9 seconds. Not sure how accurate that is but it shows it's not all his fault.
LawFitz
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
If you watch all the games you'd know its NOT on Howell. I mean, maybe a few sacks, but no one is thriving under this awful offensive line and getting down big early every game doesn't help either.
dipandglide
Footballguy
QB17 feels like a win, no? And who was ranking him top 10?
What are people's thoughts about SH in dynasty? Do you think he's showing enough for WAS to give him another year?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He put up 43 on my bench in one league, 37 in my lineup in another.
He was also not drafted in most 1-QB formats. How TF could he possibly be considered a bust?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Literally no one - it’s a false premise.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is easily one of the worst posts/evaluations I’ve ever seen on this forum.
Damn, I thought he looked real good. Sure he missed some passes, but he had defenders in his face and was running for his life all night long. Even with the pressure, threw some beautiful dimes and great touch on his passes. Goes to show you we can all see the same thing and come up with totally different conclusions.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Like would I have loved another TD in garbage time? Sure, but I’m not complaining about that output and it’s almost certainly within the range of QB1 numbers for the week. Doesn’t necessarily make him a dynasty stud but I’m quite happy with him for the nothing I paid
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Lol, obliged
ffmail4me
Footballguy
The F'N better give him another year. I'll be so pissed if they don't.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’s easily shown enough.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Too late to help him this year, but Tankathon has Washington drafting the big OT out of Georgia next year.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Howell throws a nice ball. Especially mid range. He's the best QB talent we've had in a while. EB seems to be willing to put him under fire and let him run the whole playbook despite a horrible OL. I'm fine with that. Either he can learn to overcome the pressure or he likely isn't the guy. The OL sucks super super bad though. They may be worse run blockers than pass blockers, which really limits what EB can call. Running plays often go backwards.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
It is that horrible. Can you imagine Wentz behind this line?? Howell is like the anti-Wentz. He stays calm, he doesn't panic, he's our QB and he has a bright future IMO. He's started 1/4 a season, he has LOTS of room to grow and improve.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
dmac37
Footballguy
All I know is I'm very happy as a dynasty investor. The jury is still out but at this stage, I'm thinking under the circumstances his value should be higher at the end of the year than now. New regime may want their guy instead of Howell, if that is the case I think he lands a starting QB job with some team. We at least need him to play behind a bad to mediocre offensive line compared to the current disaster of an offensive line in order to fully judge him but I'm team SAM.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
He is in a tough spot. With the possibility of a change of regime and the incoming quarterback class, he may have trouble finding a team that will give him a chance to develop as the starter. With that being said, I think he has done well this year and hope they give him a shot at becoming the long term answer. He has a good skillset, just needs experience and some surrounding help.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I think he's done very well. My opinion is his height is causing him to hold the ball too long. And it was that way in college where he was sacked a ton. He won't throw WRs open (rahter than to them when they are open) because he can't see the lane to make the throw before the WRs break. There are plenty of QBs his height that have done fine so the opportunity is there to be a really good NFL starter. He has all the tools. But I think it will take a better OL than what he has to make those windows appear.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
WAS has such a luxury with Howell on a rookie contract.
They can use or trade that top 5 pick for a lot of improvement around him. The OL needs help for sure.
But Howell is a talent. He made excellent reads, used his athleticism, and on more than one occasion when he could have run another 5-6 yards for the 1st down, he kept his eyes downfield and hit Robinson for huge gains.
He looks better every week.
They can use or trade that top 5 pick for a lot of improvement around him. The OL needs help for sure.
But Howell is a talent. He made excellent reads, used his athleticism, and on more than one occasion when he could have run another 5-6 yards for the 1st down, he kept his eyes downfield and hit Robinson for huge gains.
He looks better every week.
